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pokemondoesntcurecancer August 13th, 2013 7:22 PM

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Originally Posted by XSky RiderX (Post 7780589)
There isn't anything that I dislike about the newer generation yet. The minute the September CoroCoro was leaked with hardly any information translated, I was skeptical about the Mega evolutions since I was both stunned and confused. As time progressed and information was shown I grew an interest and accepted them. Who cares if it's SSJ Pokemon or Digi-whatever? It's something new and optional.

My views might be different than others, since I'm a competitive player rather than a casual player & that I always look at things positively, and think how much better newer mechanics can be and just stay optimistic with them rather than complaining and never accepting change. Disappointments and pessimistic expectations are usually seen through every generation, but in the end they are just opinions. To each their own.


i'm about to say my opinion. but when i read this. he said it all..

Ammako August 13th, 2013 8:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Shrew (Post 7779708)
There are a lot of reasons to hate the new pokemon games. [...] requiring people to buy 3DS's

Yes, let's keep Pokémon limited by the DS hardware just because some people don't want to buy a 3DS.
Heck, scrap the whole of Gen. IV and Gen. V, let's release D/P/Pt, HG/SS and B/W/B2/W2 on the GBA instead. Actually... Let's scrap Gen III/IV/V and release everything as a GBC-enhanced GameBoy game so that everyone can play it without buying another system.


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Originally Posted by Elgyem (Post 7780417)
-You gotta buy a 3DS! Which has so many great games, like... umm... an incomplete mess of a Mario Kart game, or... uhh... a pitifully easy Mario game, or... umm... uhh......

I swear, this is shaping up to be even worse than generation 5.

Terrible argument. You're saying that Pokémon X and Y Versions are shaping up to be worse than Generation V partly because other games on the 3DS aren't good?
Are you kidding me? Why would other games being good or not have any kind of effect on X/Y?

Oshamaru August 13th, 2013 8:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pingouin7 (Post 7784439)
Yes, let's keep Pokémon limited by the DS hardware just because some people don't want to buy a 3DS.
Heck, scrap the whole of Gen. IV and Gen. V, let's release D/P/Pt, HG/SS and B/W/B2/W2 on the GBA instead. Actually... Let's scrap Gen III/IV/V and release everything as a GBC-enhanced GameBoy game so that everyone can play it without buying another system.

I think he was being sarcastic or something. (Or at least it looked like it)

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Originally Posted by *Icecold* (Post 7782245)
I have a bad feeling about this generation. They're going to overeggerate everything and build up our excitement with all of these leaks and commercials. Then, they're going to let us fall and drop when the games come out.

wat. That's kind of a weird argument.
But it actually sounds a little bit funny.

Cosmic Fury August 13th, 2013 9:28 PM

I personally am going to hold on an opinion for the most part until the games actually come out. Game Freak has been shown not to reveal a lot about the games until just before their release, or just after.

Either way, I don't really like forming an opinion with as limited information as this. What Game Freak is revealing at this point is only some of what's new out there. If I don't like it, there are tons of other aspects of the game that I'll likely enjoy more.

Will it be my favorite? Perhaps, perhaps not. What matters the most is actually seeing if the game is well worth the money I'll more than likely be investing in it, as I already have a 3DS.

darkpokeball August 14th, 2013 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MrGriszell (Post 7783584)
1 Seriously ?in terms of evil teams pokemon Gen 1,2 we had zubats zubats and more zubats , gen 3 barly had water types mostly dark, some ground. Gen 4 we had skunks and fat kittens and oh don't forget zubats!!
Gen 5 we had watchhogs and puppies, BW2 was actually good with diversity but wait.... Didn't they bring back zubats!!!!
Ill take fire types anytime

2 lol we know absolutely nothing about the plot to even speculate on this matter

3 same reason we needed double and triple battles

4. I would of given you this one in gen 5 but now that the pokemon aren't pixels they don't look as cute following you as they did in HG Ss, lets imagine a wailord following you around in the new 3d graphics

Hm. I'd rather the evil teams not be based off of the starter types such as fire, water, grass. Any other type I'd be okay with. Also, the plot has leaked some details: Money. Team Flare's after money. Once more, this is a giant leap backwards from Gen V, which actually had a good plot(despite Ghetsis ruining it all near the end.) ...I love double battles, they're strategic and fun. Triple battles are a bit complicated, but they have their ups and downs. As for the 3d pokemon following you, maybe they could be chibi-fied? It would be amazingly cute for a chibi Wailord to be following you around.

jellotime91 August 14th, 2013 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by *Icecold* (Post 7779162)
Heh, yeah. For four whole generations the pixels didn't even move!

Well, Crystal, Emerald, and Platinum all had moving intro animations for Pokemon haha... Other than that yeah battles are crazy boring when I play gen 4 games now.

*Icecold* August 14th, 2013 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MrGriszell (Post 7783758)
Lol it's funny because your post isn't Quite so polite and yet you condem him for the things your doing and your comebt is not coming off as open minded lol I see what your doing there reverse pschycolgy .

I like to think of myself a true fan of pokemon, its an aspect of my life . Some people make that aspect about sports or their job I make it about pokemon, pokemon is my part of my lifestyle ( the other two being god, and family)
I've been a fan since gen 1 when I was 6.
I'm all about the nostalgia .

But here's the thing generation one was good but not the best generation out there. Here's how I see all the gens

1 Generation one was good because it was something new there was yet to be a game like Pokémon before and this was just something interesting. Let's face it back then games were a little bit dull I mean yes you had your Mario and Final Fantasy but let's face it Pokémon really give you a connection to the character your playing. Take Mario for instance if you and your friend played Mario you will go to the same levels and beat the game around with the same things
But now look at Pokémon you and your friends can have the exact same game yet have different experiences different Pokémon and just make the game your own

22. Generation two was good because It took the old game that you love added a whole bunch of new characters and gave you a whole bunch of different new features And it lets you revisit the region of the old game to give you a huge dose of nostalgia

3. Now I'm not sure what everybody feel as for generation three. But I remember them announcing the game and seeing screenshots and stuff like that and pretty much I love everything about it of course I didn't really play the games until I was 20 years old But it really gave features such as double battles and natures which is pretty cool. I never once came close to completing the national Pokédex in generation one and generation two so not being able to migrate my Pokémon to generation 3 really wasn't that big of deal for me

4. Generation four was cool for implementing old features such as day and night Then we have the physical special split which was awesome We got wireless communications so you know so that was pretty cool you could trade with everybody all over the world.
It also took one of the greatest games gold and silver remade them and made it 10 times better

5. Generation five was cool because it made the battles faster, Added triple battles gave us dreamworld Pokémon drastically improve the Wi-Fi functions and gave us online battles Awesome mechanics such as move learn set revamp and reusable TMs
And they gave us one of the most detailed biggest deepest story we've had in a Pokémon main series game

So while I loved gen 1 I think gen 6 will be great
It's giving us a ton of new features it's giving us the ton of old Pokémon giving us old Pokémon with new transformations I see no reason why it wouldn't give us a greater story than generation five Really good wireless features The best graphics since the series came out And a awesome new type which hasn't been done since generation two And a new region and Pokémon

So I got mad love for generation six
And you're really going to have to bring your arguments up in order to show hate for .

Now granted when it comes to new Pokémon a new forms of Pokémon I understand at first you may not be feeling them because while they don't look like you might want them to look
Just keep in mind the only reason we love gen 1 pokemon was because there wasn't anything else to compare it to

What's your point here? That I'm a genwunner? No, I'm not. Glad you see the good points of every generation, but I don't think you understand what I'm complaining anout.

And Sweets Witch, of course I accept your apology! It's okay to share your opinion with others but I would rather your irritation show so much you look pretty jerkish. Sorry if my message sounds rude as well... I just get steaming mad when people point fingers and call people genwunners when they have no idea what generations they play.

Not sure if I'm actually going to play Gen 1 and Gen 2, but I am interested in Yellow and Crystal. I want a Pikachu D:

Oshamaru August 14th, 2013 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by darkpokeball (Post 7785487)
Hm. I'd rather the evil teams not be based off of the starter types such as fire, water, grass. Any other type I'd be okay with. Also, the plot has leaked some details: Money. Team Flare's after money. Once more, this is a giant leap backwards from Gen V, which actually had a good plot.

They're after money, yes, but we don't know WHAT will they do with it.

Arlo August 14th, 2013 1:49 PM

Every new generation has people who invest all sorts of time and energy into hating it.

I don't know why they bother. They just waste a lot of effort convincing themselves to hate something that they haven't even played yet. They crash around forums, desperately trying to convince other people (and probably to some degree themselves) that their burning hatred of this game they haven't even played yet is justified because blah, blah, blah.

It's their loss. Just like with every other gen, while they're trying ever more desperately to justify their hatred with an ever more predictable and trite set of complaints (watertrumpetssurfingsnowdriftsoverdesignedicecreamconetrashbags), I'll be playing and enjoying another generation of games.

Xander Olivieri August 14th, 2013 1:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Arlo (Post 7785651)
Every new generation has people who invest all sorts of time and energy into hating it.

I don't know why they bother. They just waste a lot of effort convincing themselves to hate something that they haven't even played yet. They crash around forums, desperately trying to convince other people (and probably to some degree themselves) that their burning hatred of this game they haven't even played yet is justified because blah, blah, blah.

It's their loss. Just like with every other gen, while they're trying ever more desperately to justify their hatred with an ever more predictable and trite set of complaints (watertrumpetssurfingsnowdriftsoverdesignedicecreamconetrashbags), I'll be playing and enjoying another generation of games.

That is what you call a Troll my dear friend. They care too much that they hate absolutely everything about it and completely ignore everything else. Then they try to get others to hate it by spouting their hate, as idiotic as it usually is. This only makes them post more because they know it upsets the real fans of the series.

*Icecold* August 14th, 2013 2:25 PM

I'm just sharing my opinion with the forums is all. Negative or positive, a reasonable member will respect it U.U

I don't even hate the game because I can't hate the game because I can't even play the game. I just hate Fairy types.

I do, however, predict that this generation isn't going to be as good as it seems. However, let's all pray it will be! And I hate Generation 5 because of the storyline and how strightforward and easy it is.

(Take that Arlo :P)

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 14th, 2013 3:12 PM

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Originally Posted by *Icecold* (Post 7785658)
I'm just sharing my opinion with the forums is all. Negative or positive, a reasonable member will respect it U.U

I don't even hate the game because I can't hate the game because I can't even play the game. I just hate Fairy types.

I do, however, predict that this generation isn't going to be as good as it seems. However, let's all pray it will be! And I hate Generation 5 because of the storyline and how strightforward and easy it is.

(Take that Arlo :P)

I don't think you're a hater. Everyone has things they don't like and we're allowed to say so. Personally I enjoy everything so far. I pray that the plot is good despite the apparent goal down grade.

@ Arlo. I was reading that mush up of words and started with the end and ended up going backwards. When I got to the Water and Trumpets I couldn't help but laugh, it brought back memories...and all those reason sound horrible to say one hates the game...maybe dislike it...well the Trashbag and Ice cream cone maybe more understandable if those were the only Pokémon of that generation but they weren't...again I wish people would look at the whole picture...

*Icecold* August 14th, 2013 4:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7785750)
I don't think you're a hater. Everyone has things they don't like and we're allowed to say so. Personally I enjoy everything so far. I pray that the plot is good despite the apparent goal down grade.

@ Arlo. I was reading that mush up of words and started with the end and ended up going backwards. When I got to the Water and Trumpets I couldn't help but laugh, it brought back memories...and all those reason sound horrible to say one hates the game...maybe dislike it...well the Trashbag and Ice cream cone maybe more understandable if those were the only Pokémon of that generation but they weren't...again I wish people would look at the whole picture...

Thank you :3 I'll have to wait to be a hater...

And although I dislike the 5th generation, I like Vannilite/Vanniluxe and Garbodor's designs. They're colorful and original for being based off of inanimate objects. However, if you want a badly designed Pokemon look at Klink.

But I might as well say some things I do like about Kalos so far. The Pokeamie thingamajig is acutally going to have an effect on the Pokemon in battling, not just to spruce it up with fancy ribbons and achievements. (Although those are still pretty patties in eveyr which way.)

Many of the Pokemon's designs look pretty interesting. I like how this generation's bunny Pokemon isn't so.... you know. It actually looks like a real life rabbit and not some exaggerated.... yeah, I'll stop talking. Gym leaders look interesting, like the professor so far (Sycamore!!), legendaries are really cool and the fact that it looks like AC:NL with the improved sprites and graphics is awesome. And who would say no to customization? I can have a dark skinned protagonist! I've wanted to be black since the games came out! ^^

mason385 August 15th, 2013 7:59 AM

It seems with every new generation, people have their fears that it will be a disaster. Then after the generation they look back and realize, wow it was pretty awesome

TreeKangaroo August 15th, 2013 2:37 PM

It's called change, some people accept it, others don't. Which is silly because if pokemon was the same thing over and over agin it would take out the fun. A lot of people have been complaining for 4 generations about no new types and now fairy types are released and everybody starts complaining about it being "stupid" and such. Oh and it hasn't been confirmed that team flare's ONLY goal is money. It could be like Ghetsis lying all over again.
However...
I DISAGREE!(okay I couldn't resist)

*Icecold* August 15th, 2013 4:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TreeKangaroo (Post 7787268)
It's called change, some people accept it, others don't. Which is silly because if pokemon was the same thing over and over agin it would take out the fun. A lot of people have been complaining for 4 generations about no new types and now fairy types are released and everybody starts complaining about it being "stupid" and such. Oh and it hasn't been confirmed that team flare's ONLY goal is money. It could be like Ghetsis lying all over again.
However...
I DISAGREE!(okay I couldn't resist)

I'm okay with change. What I'm not okay is when they try to change and the attempt falls flat. Like how Gen 5 tried to have an edgy storyline with epic characters. But let's not talk about that...

And I hate Fairy types because they have sooo much potential but they're only giving the typing to cutesy Pokémon like that Pikachu rip-off (not that I have problems with Pikachu rip-offs) and Marill of all things decent.

Okay I'm just repeating myself over and over again. Let's just say I'm fine with change.

Wyntilda August 15th, 2013 4:07 PM

I just don't like it because it's being rendered in Unreal. And not only that, the graphics look like they're from MySims or something. Though I am still excited about Gen VI, and ponder it's hacking vulnerabilities. :)

TreeKangaroo August 15th, 2013 4:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Elgyem (Post 7780417)
This whole idea of a "fresh new start" is nonexistent. That was claimed during the last (worst) generation, and now people are claiming that here? Okay, so what does this gen give us?

-Digivolution Mega Evolution
-Cotton Candy
-Fairies! (That is, pink, girly Disney fairies, not the more interesting mythical creatures)
-A supposed "stronger" Mewtwo that somehow looks weaker
-Yet another purely evil team with no real motive besides being evil
-3D! (That is, terrible, lifeless 3D that wouldn't even look presentable on the N64)
-You gotta buy a 3DS! Which has so many great games, like... umm... an incomplete mess of a Mario Kart game, or... uhh... a pitifully easy Mario game, or... umm... uhh......

I swear, this is shaping up to be even worse than generation 5.

Since when do other 3DS games have anything to do if Pokemon X and Y are good or not? The 3D is the same as Animal crossing new leaf(an awesome game on the 3DS) and did anyone complain about AC? Nope. But this? Yep.

*Icecold* August 15th, 2013 5:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TreeKangaroo (Post 7787407)
Since when do other 3DS games have anything to do if Pokemon X and Y are good or not? The 3D is the same as Animal crossing new leaf(an awesome game on the 3DS) and did anyone complain about AC? Nope. But this? Yep.

That's not what he's trying to say... He's trying to say that if you don't already have a 3DS, in his opinion it won't be worth it because a lot of the 3DS games stink. If X and Y isn't as good as it seems and it's the only reason you buy a 3DS, he's saying it will be a total waste of money.

And it's only your opinion that AC:NL was awesome. Just because one game that you liked on that system was nice doesn't automatically make his opinion awful. (I liked the game too, but it seems that what your saying is that one game made the whole system look amazing.)

And I agree, the Mario Kart and Mario 3D Land games were pretty bad. And don't forget Pokémon Rumble and Nintendogs.

MrGriszell August 15th, 2013 5:39 PM

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Originally Posted by *Icecold* (Post 7787457)
That's not what he's trying to say... He's trying to say that if you don't already have a 3DS, in his opinion it won't be worth it because a lot of the 3DS games stink. If X and Y isn't as good as it seems and it's the only reason you buy a 3DS, he's saying it will be a total waste of money.

And it's only your opinion that AC:NL was awesome. Just because one game that you liked on that system was nice doesn't automatically make his opinion awful. (I liked the game too, but it seems that what your saying is that one game made the whole system look amazing.)

And I agree, the Mario Kart and Mario 3D Land games were pretty bad. And don't forget Pokémon Rumble and Nintendogs.

Funny thing about opinions , when a lot of people have the same one it tends to become fact
In regards to AC:NL this is from Wikipedia

The game itself has received overwhelmingly positive reviews. The Japanese version of the game received a 39/40 from Japanese magazine Famitsu, earning the publication's Platinum Award,[50] while the English version received an 8.0/10 from GameSpot, and a 9.6/10 from IGN.[59][60] The game also scored an 88/100 on Metacritic indicating "generally favorable reviews".[8] Many critics seem to agree that the game's visuals are great, and that the game has enough new content to keep both new and veteran players excited.

The game debuted in Japan with sales of just over 800,000 units sold with 200,000 of them being digital.[61][62]Animal Crossing: New Leaf became the first 3DS game in Japan to pass 2 million units sold, doing so in just under 2 months.[63] As of 31 March 2013 the game has sold 3.86 million copies in Korea and Japan.[64]

So in conclusion if someone were to say this is the best game ever that would be an opinion , if someone were to say that this game is awesome, well that would be fact since awesome is not a measurable unit and is determine by what people think , so by the response the game has had .....yes it is indeed awesome


And since its the job of the game to really sell the system , I can totally see one game making a system worth playing, now was ACNL that game? Well not for me but for some people it is. And I truly believe that the main series pokemon games that will be on the 3ds will be the games to make buying a 3ds worth it even if its just playing those games .

Did anyone here have a ps2? I didn't I had $200-$300 kingdom hearts playing machine lol ( get the point?)

Wobbu August 15th, 2013 5:39 PM

If the music is as good as it was in Gen. 5, I'll have no reason to dislike it 8 )

TreeKangaroo August 15th, 2013 7:27 PM

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Originally Posted by *Icecold* (Post 7787457)
That's not what he's trying to say... He's trying to say that if you don't already have a 3DS, in his opinion it won't be worth it because a lot of the 3DS games stink. If X and Y isn't as good as it seems and it's the only reason you buy a 3DS, he's saying it will be a total waste of money.

And it's only your opinion that AC:NL was awesome. Just because one game that you liked on that system was nice doesn't automatically make his opinion awful. (I liked the game too, but it seems that what your saying is that one game made the whole system look amazing.)

And I agree, the Mario Kart and Mario 3D Land games were pretty bad. And don't forget Pokémon Rumble and Nintendogs.

Nintendogs IMO is more of a mini-game, not like an actual game.(you know what I mean? All you do is walk dogs, contests.) I agree on the mario kart one but I haven't played the other one.(I only have 2 Mario games anyway) He should have worded it better IMO. Oh and I never said AC:NL made the 3DS amazing all I said was an example of a good 3ds game. And you can play older regular DS games on the 3DS.

*Icecold* August 16th, 2013 1:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MrGriszell (Post 7787502)
Funny thing about opinions , when a lot of people have the same one it tends to become fact

Just because a lot of people say the game is good doesn't mean that everyone thinks it's good though. There could be one person that prefers a different game over ACNL.

And is why are we even talking about videogame systems? Who gives a? This is a Pokémon forum where we talk about Pokémon.

TreeKangaroo August 16th, 2013 3:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Elgyem (Post 7782590)




Dragon-types are fine because they actually look like dragons.

I wouldn't say altaria looks much like a dragon. More like a fairy(yes, I said it)/flying type.

Fernando Torres August 16th, 2013 4:21 PM

If its bad. I will hate it. But fortunately I don't think it's bad and I hope it's what all the hype says it is.


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