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Tsutarja June 25th, 2014 5:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Twiggy (Post 8316784)
It does have a microSD slot.

At least it does, considering I prefer expandable storage to that of internal storage.

Legendary Silke June 25th, 2014 7:53 AM

The 4" WVGA display of my phone is kind of getting in the way in a lot of things, anyway. I've noticed that there's now a bunch of games that, despite being playable, have unreadable text.

countryemo June 25th, 2014 4:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 8315336)
I was browsing for a new phone to replace my Samsung Galaxy Reverb, and I'll honestly say I'm a little repulsed at the modern phone market (I can't imagine how bad the iPhone scene is if Android is like this).

I wanted to get a Samsung Galaxy S5, but that's $590, where it's $100 with contract. When I got to the plan selection screen it was the stupidest thing, they give me a choice between an overpriced all-in-one plan and a more customizable one that sticks you with a certain number of minutes and then forces you to pay extra at minimum for data. All the carriers did this or something weirdly similar, and it was embarrassing to say the least.

Conclusion: Pay $75 to get my old phone back brand new, get old phone plan back with unlimited everything for $45/mo from Virgin Mobile, insert microSD card for music, be done with it. Enjoy my phone without paying out the ass, eh?

Their is lots of cheaper phones out, from high ends like Nexus 5 and Moto X, to lower phones like Moto G/E, lesser known oems like BLU, and the Android One program (not out yet).

Legendary Silke June 26th, 2014 1:24 AM

To be honest, I wouldn't really bother with lesser-known OEMs with regard to pretty much everything.

Blu·Ray June 26th, 2014 2:29 AM

In the budget part of the Android market I would highly suggest you to take a look at Motorola's offerings. They have great value for money on their newer devices, just like the country emo said above.

If you are willing to take a look at the Windows Phone side, the absolute value for money beast is the Lumia 520. It really owns the low-end with a great experience at a price point where the androids are laggy and slow.

Mark Kamill June 26th, 2014 3:10 AM

Not all lesser OEMs are bad. I'm still on a crusade trying to convince people that Huawei is a great brand for what it is. I own a 3C and some minor hicups the phone rocks. Got it for 170, and I have mid-high preformance in a quality build and a decent shooter that can give great outdoor shots.

Oryx June 26th, 2014 3:39 AM

I was listening to a speech by the CFO of AT&T yesterday and they were talking about their program where you can choose to buy a phone outright instead of having an extra 15 dollars tacked onto your plan every month, and how many people are taking advantage of it. He was claiming that the reason the cell phone market wasn't dropping in price dramatically like the TV and computer market was because phone companies stepped in and started subsidizing so customers didn't worry about being frugal or pushing for lower costs in phones, because the subsidized cost was the same no matter what they bought. A ton of people use that new program and he said it would push the cell phone market to lower their prices.

And plus the speech was directed at employees, not customers, so more likely to be more than just financial bluster. I hope he's right at least.

Legendary Silke June 26th, 2014 3:42 AM

I almost always demo devices every time I plan to get something anyway just before getting it. I don't like surprises.

Blu·Ray June 26th, 2014 5:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Evil Stud Muffin (Post 8318326)
Not all lesser OEMs are bad. I'm still on a crusade trying to convince people that Huawei is a great brand for what it is. I own a 3C and some minor hicups the phone rocks. Got it for 170, and I have mid-high preformance in a quality build and a decent shooter that can give great outdoor shots.

Huawei is not a lesser OEM... They're number three in global marketshare!
Huawei is not like those random name brand or white-box devices, they're a serious OEM with lots of global customers. I say global, because they only have 8% marketshare in China which is less than other Chinese brands, while doing really well globally relative to other Chinese brands.

Mark Kamill June 26th, 2014 5:18 AM

MYeah, but I mean lesser in the sense that its still viewed in a bad light, does not have the marketing force of the big 3 android makers, and in general is a hit and miss company. Other then that, sure you can argue that they're big, but then you would have to argue that alcatel or zte. One major plus though is the lack of an app drawer, having an iOS style os plus widgets and android functionality is god like.

Tsutarja June 26th, 2014 6:43 AM

I'm wondering now if Lenovo purchases Motorola, would they continue to manufacture the Motorola phones with stock Android instead of heavily customizing the OS like what Samsung does.

Legendary Silke June 26th, 2014 9:23 AM

I just want that they treat brand reputation as a serious matter and make an effort to make compelling products. Last thing you want to see is probably having a brand that basically does nothing, or worse, tarnished because of... poor product decisions.

Alexander Nicholi June 26th, 2014 1:29 PM

When I was browsing service plans on Amazon, AT&T's was particularly unattractive, forcing you with exactly 450 minutes for something like $30/mo and then a choice between data plans ranging from 300 MB at +$10 to 50GB at +~$200. You couldn't opt out of data and texts were 20 cents per minute, which is crazy. You had an overall choice between that buyer's trainwreck and paying $65/mo for unlimited talk/text and again forcing you to tack on data for additional cost.

The cool part about the plan I had with Virgin Mobile is it costs the same as the Wal-Mart phone plans for the same service, except without the statement of "My phone service is from Wal-Mart" which is just ew.

Tsutarja June 26th, 2014 3:36 PM

Guess this is what I'd expect to happen with a developer release of a phone OS: updates every other day. (I'm running the dev channel of Windows Phone 8.1 btw)

Tsutarja June 26th, 2014 4:35 PM

I wonder why Google is going the route similar to iOS in terms of a flatter design. I'll be looking forward to seeing what Google has to offer in Android L as well.

Legendary Silke June 26th, 2014 11:20 PM

Eventually I suspect we will see the return of skeumorphic design. I'm not even sure if I spelled it right, but let's just say that it's basically what happens when every virtual representation looks like its physical counterpart.

Tsutarja June 27th, 2014 3:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Twiggy (Post 8319656)
Eventually I suspect we will see the return of skeumorphic design. I'm not even sure if I spelled it right, but let's just say that it's basically what happens when every virtual representation looks like its physical counterpart.

It's skeuomorphic lol

I don't mind that the mobile operating systems are going flat these days, but I do wish that there was more originality between competition, instead of following trends

Oryx June 27th, 2014 4:11 PM

People like what they know, so if you get too original people get confused and stop liking you.

What drives design often has to do with psychology and where our world is technology-wise. Before, we needed the 3D elements to signify to use what we need to do. Our world is increasingly more virtual though and a virtual button is distinct from a physical one at this point, so it's much less necessary to make it look 3D on the screen.

Alexander Nicholi June 27th, 2014 7:47 PM

Xorg's interface looks so clean, pristine, and user-oriented… if only it'd see my built-in display I could run it :P They do have a hell of a lot of amazing command line applications that could suffice until I sort that out with my Arch installation, but the problem with executing that is my Broadcom WNA seriously won't shut up telling me that "TID 1 isn't agg'able" and interrupts me in the middle of typing commands at about 5 times per second. Wrote a service for systemctl or w/e its called telling it to stfu but it won't listen, so… :l

My headset came in the mail today, with the FedEx guy literally showing up not two minutes after I woke up. My old speakers make for a really good amplifier, and the bass is great, if it weren't for my ears itching up. It's better than anything I've had before, so it's good. :D

Legendary Silke June 28th, 2014 2:41 AM

I seem to find myself accidentally leaving power saver turned on while using my laptop these days.

Then again, nobody notices. Maybe that's a testament to how efficient today's platforms are.

twocows June 28th, 2014 9:34 AM

Was having all sorts of issues with my router this morning. Finally got sick of and decided to do something I meant to do months ago: update to Tomato firmware (Toastman mod in this case). Upgrade went fine (except I couldn't access the internet because it didn't carry over my MAC address spoof, which luckily I recorded before starting the upgrade), but I was locked out for an hour trying to find out why I couldn't get into the router settings. The old router login was a blank username and my custom password, turns out they just added a username and kept my password through the upgrade. So that took me a while to figure out. Once I did, cloned the old MAC address and hit save and bam, internet worked. As a bonus, the router web interface is responsive and has tons of features (QoS, ping and tracert, custom Linux scripts, logging, etc.), and I even got a nice 2 megabit boost to both up and downstream connections. This is freaking cool.

Tsutarja June 28th, 2014 1:41 PM

Sometimes I wish my router's firmware could get updated by Verizon. I know, I could easily put my own firmware on it, but I'd rather not just void my ISP's terms of service, especially since it's their equipment and not mine.

Legendary Silke June 28th, 2014 9:27 PM

I guess I must be the only person satisfied with stock firmware on routers. Not that I'd need anything more, though.

Tsutarja June 29th, 2014 4:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Twiggy (Post 8322357)
I guess I must be the only person satisfied with stock firmware on routers. Not that I'd need anything more, though.

I'm satisfied as well with stock firmware, but sometimes I just wish my ISP updated their firmware on mine, which hasn't been updated since I've owned the router (July 2010).

Legendary Silke June 29th, 2014 5:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Zach (Post 8322601)
I'm satisfied as well with stock firmware, but sometimes I just wish my ISP updated their firmware on mine, which hasn't been updated since I've owned the router (July 2010).

For most devices, firmware updates are stuff where if it doesn't fix anything relevant to you, don't bother.


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