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TheErix September 12th, 2013 3:52 AM

I think Pyroar is Litleo evolution, awesome!

pachthegiant September 12th, 2013 4:14 AM

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Originally Posted by pokerex (Post 7829307)
I notice that some people are saying that they dislike mega evolutions because they are going to be overwhelming now that there are so many of them. but remember, you first need to find the right mega stone for the right pokemon, which will probably be extremely hard.
So if you catch a Gible you are not guaranteed to have a mega garchomp.

Also the hint of having to grow a bond with the pokemon. I do agree that they are not going to make it entirely simple to obtain these mega evolutions

BeefTaco September 12th, 2013 4:17 AM

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Originally Posted by chuckleslucifer (Post 7829289)
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7787393024/h22469076/

possible mega evolutions for all these guys

The problem I have with this picture is that is a photoshop of this picture

http://images.christianpost.com/full/64330/pokemon-x-and-y.jpg?w=262

This picture in it self has some suspicious flaws like it includes Tyranitar and Metagross in the Mega Evolution list when apparently the only 3 pseudo legendaries to get Mega Evolutions are Dragonite, Garchomp and Salamance.

Cerberus87 September 12th, 2013 4:34 AM

The boys at 4chan (of all places!) already shot it down as fake. Something about the Japanese spelling of the regions, especially Kanto which is in kanji (like the real Kanto region in Japan) instead of katakana (as it's used in the games).

bobandbill September 12th, 2013 4:34 AM

Yeah, that image is a fake apparently. Only take stuff for granted that's posted by the bigger pokemon fansites as real, rather than chzbgr images.

blue September 12th, 2013 4:36 AM

You can tell that image is fake, it's poorly made and it's just an English rip of the previous Japanese Mega Evolution Pokémon Sheet that was circulating the internet a couple of days back.

Decimosoma September 12th, 2013 4:41 AM

I'm glad it is fake, more hopes for Hydreigon to get a Mega evolution.

Bluerang1 September 12th, 2013 5:33 AM

OMG Pyroar LOVE! The design, the name, this is the best Pokemon I've seen in a while.

And definitely getting the knight, witch, and something else from the starters.

Powerserge September 12th, 2013 5:47 AM

Oh my goodness.......every time I see a mega-evolution of an older pokemon, I cringe.....and this new Mewtwo mega-evolution is just the most ridiculous looking one yet.

I am disappointed by all the starter evolutions except maybe froakie's, but the second stage is almost always goofy looking, so it is to be expected.....

The other new Gen VI Pokemon look cool though. I am happy that the original ideas are still likable at least. I can already tell I will like everything other than the mega-evolutions. And I am so happy that Pyroar turned out the way I hoped he would! So freakin' awesome.

jellotime91 September 12th, 2013 6:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ilias_ (Post 7829277)
a new picture of the starter's evos is up with their abilities Overgrow, Blaze and Torrent.
(from serebii)

Feels like Fennekin's evo is going to use the stick to perform moves. It's too cool.

Ok wow. Now I love Fennekin's evo. I thought the stick was a part of its body.

In the screenshot you can just barely make out Tailunar actually USING The stick. That's AWESOME.

Sceptile14 September 12th, 2013 6:09 AM

I'm guessing that Pyroar is Litleo's first evolution right? I don't know whether it has been confirmed or not but it is pretty obvious.
Also I've got a feeling that there will be a second evolution. At the moment, it's just a normal lion. In its baby stage it had a scorpian tail, so I am holding out hopes that it evolves again into a fire/poison Manticore, it could also be number 666. The three starter Pokemon and there evolutions equal 658, next you have scatterbug, and its two other evolutions, which bring it to 661. Fletchling and Talonflame bring it up to 663, and Litleo, and two more evolutions would bring up 666.

Pinkie-Dawn September 12th, 2013 6:20 AM

Darn it, GF, quit tempting me to run a Fire type team with Pyroar's awesome design. Now I'm going to expect it take the the role of Simba, while Luxray takes the role of Scar, by the time those new Pokemon-themed fanart of The Lion King arrive.

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Originally Posted by alienhunterx (Post 7829180)

Also I hate to see that Steel is now not resistant against Dark and Ghost. I wonder why they changed that....

Like Dragon types, Steel types were one of the most dominant types in the metagame due to resisting almost every type, to the point where it was a must for every Pokemon to have Steel as a secondary type in order to be OU, as long as it's not paired with another type that hinders it. Just look at Ferrothorn for example, it has outclassed a lot of Grass types, in terms of team support, due to its Steel typing.

Superfox September 12th, 2013 6:38 AM

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Originally Posted by alienhunterx (Post 7829191)
Yeah it might be due to that but still I think Steel has been made more vulnerable in the game play

Well, Steel is still resistant to plenty: 8 types, not including itself. And its also still immune to Poison type. With it getting a new strength against Fairy, the people at Gamefreak must have felt that it was becoming too OP, like Psychic back in Gen 1.

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Originally Posted by Fenneking (Post 7829062)
So...how do I pick between Fennekin and Litleo?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Also, the orange in the main spells "Fire" in Japanese. I mean, I can't believe how much I want one of these.
I am anticipating that the Litleo line will be EXTREMELY popular among the fanbase.

Well, you can do what I'm doing: get both Pokémon X and Pokémon Y and then pick Fennekin in one and another starter in the other. That way, in one you don't have to worry about choosing between Litleo and Fennekin.

Cerberus87 September 12th, 2013 6:46 AM

Why did everyone think Litleo was going to become a manticore? From what I know, the mythological beast with the head of a lion and the tail of a scorpion/snake is a chimera, not a manticore.

classiccartoonsftw September 12th, 2013 6:49 AM

Is that Mega Evolution page fake? In that case, there's still hope for Mega Evolutions for Raichu, Arbok, and Mightyena.

On a side note, Pyroar is pretty cool. However, I think I'll choose between it and Talonflame as soon as the games are out.

Superfox September 12th, 2013 6:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Cerberus87 (Post 7829576)
Why did everyone think Litleo was going to become a manticore? From what I know, the mythological beast with the head of a lion and the tail of a scorpion/snake is a chimera, not a manticore.

A Chimera is a beast with the body of a lion, the heads of a lion and a goat, and a tail that ends in a snake's head.

A Manticore is a beast with the body of a lion, the head of a human, and the tail of either a dragon or a scorpion.

jellotime91 September 12th, 2013 7:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Cerberus87 (Post 7829576)
Why did everyone think Litleo was going to become a manticore? From what I know, the mythological beast with the head of a lion and the tail of a scorpion/snake is a chimera, not a manticore.

The tuft of fur on the end of his tail is pointed like a Scorpion's tail. Manticores are flying lions with scorpion tails.

Chimera has a snake's head for a tail.

FlamingRage September 12th, 2013 7:17 AM

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Originally Posted by classiccartoonsftw (Post 7829578)
Is that Mega Evolution page fake? In that case, there's still hope for Mega Evolutions for Raichu, Arbok, and Mightyena.

On a side note, Pyroar is pretty cool. However, I think I'll choose between it and Talonflame as soon as the games are out.

Yep, it looks like someone made it in less than an hour and decided to post it. I would be shocked if they didn't give the Pikachu line a mega evolution.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 12th, 2013 7:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jellotime91 (Post 7829534)
Ok wow. Now I love Fennekin's evo. I thought the stick was a part of its body.

In the screenshot you can just barely make out Tailunar actually USING The stick. That's AWESOME.

When I saw the stick I thought it was going to use the stick for battle in a wand like way, seems I was right :3
@ Pinky-Dawn. Yes at this point my whole team will be made up of like 5 fire types...I got to decide on my fires now.

The ??? September 12th, 2013 8:25 AM

wow, my dream has come true, a more badass Garchomp!

BeefTaco September 12th, 2013 8:30 AM

Heres more info on Pyroar if it hasnt already been posted.

"Following on from the accidental leak last night, the Pokémon Pyroar has been officially revealed by The Pokémon Company in conjunction with website IGN. It's a Fire/Normal-type Pokémon with the abilities Unnerve and Rivalry and it can learn the move Echoed Voice and is classed as the Royal Pokémon."

from Serebii

SkyRyder September 12th, 2013 8:33 AM

Y'know, at first I really underestimated Pyroar's design. I expected too much out of a Litleo evolution, hoping it to be a menacing chimera/manticore with a flaming mane, etc.

After looking at its official art, though, I am really starting to open up to it now!

http://serebii.net/xy/pyroar.png

Please, GameFreak, give this thing Flare Blitz.

BeefTaco September 12th, 2013 8:43 AM

I don't appreciate it still being Fire/Normal. Normal type doesn't do much to help Fire type, it only gives it immunity to Ghost and with the vast amount of Fighting types is not worth it in my opinion.

Spinosaurus September 12th, 2013 8:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ANinyMouse (Post 7828668)
Personally, when I saw the new fossil Pokemon, I immediately thought of an evolution based on the most visually stunning diplodocus-like dinosaur: amargasaurus!

http://pokebeach.com/news/0913/new-pokemon-corocoro-2.jpg

http://www.francotempesta.eu/img/paleoart2/big/08-amargasaurus-GEOWORLD.jpg

The evolution for the "t-rex" one, I'm betting, will be more like a carnotaurus:
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/864967329503622806/36B2E2529B73910364D63EC560BF0FE6AF289F72/

Considering the crest on its head I can see it spreading across its body and turning into a proper Amargasaurus. That'd be sick as hell. An ice-type Amargasaurus Pokemon. Too bad it'd be "cute" or something if the current design is anything to go by . :/

Carnotauros is terrific (my favorite dinosaur, probably) but when you consider it it'd be weird if a T-Rex evolves into a Carnotauros which is a significantly smaller dinosaur. I propose Carcharodontosaurus or Giganotosaurus.
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Originally Posted by Latios Master (Post 7828978)
My gut feeling was that they would be T-Rex and Brontosaurus-type of Pokémon.

Hate to be that guy to you but Brontosaurus doesn't exist. The Dinosaur you're thinking of is Apatosaurus.
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Originally Posted by Livewire (Post 7829069)
This is one of the coolest Pokemon I've ever seen. Hands down. 10/10 will catch.

http://serebii.net/pyroar2.jpg

I'm catching one and naming mine Simba. THIS is the Lion Pokemon we've all been waiting for!

As a bonus they should make the shiny version white. (Too bad people aren't old enough here to get the reference.)

EDIT: You know normal makes sense considering it's supposed to be just like a normal Lion with pyromancy.

alisaie September 12th, 2013 9:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Spinosaurus (Post 7829663)
As a bonus they should make the shiny version white. (Too bad people aren't old enough here to get the reference.)

Kimba~

I loved Litleo from the beginning but Pyroar ooooh my gosh I love it. So majestic compared to the cartoonish pre-evolution that a lot of people disliked. Its mane totally looks like a fire blast unless it's just me seeing that.

Entermaid September 12th, 2013 9:19 AM

I checked on IGN, and they stated, "The Pokemon Company has revealed Pyroar, an evolution of Litleo in Pokemon X and Y..." It's like no, you guys did. or at least an employee representing them did. Either way, I am glad IGN is incompetent; now, if there could just be a few more "accidents".

Spinosaurus September 12th, 2013 9:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BinaryPeaches (Post 7829686)
Kimba~

Hey, you're cool.
I just found out that the show got recent re-runs though so apparently it's not as obscure as I thought it was.

Seriously though, white lions are brilliant.
http://upload.7hob.com/Photo/7hob.com1368741266091.jpg

Iceshadow3317 September 12th, 2013 9:26 AM

Well that is probably a new trailer that GF has made and IGN has already gotten the video. We will probably be seeing a new trailer very very soon.

I am also disappointed that It is a Pyroar is a Fire/Normal just like I was disappointed to find out Luxray line was Electric, but I guess all black pokemon can't be dark type. I still wish it was Fire/Poison at least. I could careless if it was a Manticore, but I was right when I said the tail of Litleo was just hair. I am glad fire types are getting a lot more pokemon. They have always been pushed aside. I know we will have a good amount of water type, but I hope not many. There is already about 110 different water pokemon.

Spinosaurus September 12th, 2013 9:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MarinoKadame (Post 7828931)
I could see a third fossil pokemon that is standalone and would be some kind of Spinosaurus

If they do that they're going to get sued.

BeefTaco September 12th, 2013 9:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7829693)
It's honestly a good thing for it, as far as offensive typing is concerned. Not only could it attack and gain STAB through Flare Blitz, you could circumvent the recoil and (assuming it learns this) go for a Work Up/STAB Return Set. I'd say the Fire/Normal typing gives the lion some damn well impressive coverage, barring Rock types, in which I hope that thing learns superpower or something, lmao.

What I'm worried about is its defense, those Fighting types specially the ones who run Bulk Up sets are gonna be a problem. Also Intimidate would have been better than Rivalry, but I suppose they didn't want to imitate Arcanine.

I was in another forum where someone said something very interesting about Pyroar. Do you guys think there will be a difference in appearance with the Male and Female version given that Pyroar is a Lion?

blue September 12th, 2013 9:44 AM

I love Pyroar's official artwork, I wasn't really a fan of Litleo but after seeing Pyroar I will probably end up using it at some stage.

Sceptile14 September 12th, 2013 9:44 AM

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Originally Posted by XSky RiderX (Post 7829653)
Y'know, at first I really underestimated Pyroar's design. I expected too much out of a Litleo evolution, hoping it to be a menacing chimera/manticore with a flaming mane, etc.

After looking at its official art, though, I am really starting to open up to it now!

http://serebii.net/xy/pyroar.png

Please, GameFreak, give this thing Flare Blitz.

I can still maybe see it get a second evolution, as it does look like it could get a bit bigger, the mane could become even bigger and majestic (It is the royal Pokemon.) I wouldn't be disapointed if this was its final evolution, I think that it is one of the best designs yet, I just wish that we could have got a fire/posion type. Litleo's tail really got my hopes up.

JP September 12th, 2013 10:01 AM

Maybe it'll get a second evolution and that normal type will turn to poison type? I'd love for it to happen. I, honestly, am having a hard time seeing it happen at this point, but you can never know for sure. I'm happy with the design at least, looks great. Litleo's design was kinda meh, but this definitely makes up for it.

Spinosaurus September 12th, 2013 10:04 AM

Why would a Lion be a poison type?

BraveNewWorld September 12th, 2013 10:09 AM

Give Pyroar a base attack and speed over 100 and it's good to go.

Hopefully it gets Flare Blitz (STAB) and Body Slam (STAB + Parahax).

BeefTaco September 12th, 2013 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Spinosaurus (Post 7829751)
Why would a Lion be a poison type?

It was this theory going around that because Litleo's tail resembled a scorpion tail that its evolution would be based on a Manticore. A Manticore is a mythical creature which is mainly a Lion with traits of other animals like a scorpion tail.

Sukiyomi September 12th, 2013 10:11 AM

Well this was a big scoup to me, Im actually glad that steel is not resistant to dark and ghost. Im justing thinking that it's becomming more OP. I know during the tournaments, I would sometimes have a tough time with steel types because of the team I choice (For fun play not competitive).

I really do believe that mega evolution chart is a fake. Why give zangoose a mega form and not serviper? Werent those two pretty much together at all times and have history?

Also, I am in love with fennekins evolution! Im pretty sure his/her final form will be great. Im also assuming that froakie is on the verge too. I believe he shall be another oshawott am I right?? Wow, chespin kind of fell off the chair here. I was hoping for an epic evolution for him so that he could possibly wind up like Sceptile but ohwell i guess.

I also just heard of Mewtwo getting a second mega form as well. Just when I thought the Y version would grow on me, I feel as if I like the X version. I guess Im just digging the fact that psychic cant effectly hurt his secondary typing...however, he gains a flying weakness <.<

BeefTaco September 12th, 2013 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7829764)
If it's purely going to focus on offensive, then it wouldn't need to worry about defenses much. If it doesn't have intimidate, then it's safe to say that it wasn't made for bulk. Of course, this is only assuming that its defenses are lower than average, and that its offensive stats are much higher, which is what I'm thinking is most likely the case.

I understand, but you have to admit that with SR not going anywhere and the Normal typing providing a weakness to yet another popular type, Pyroar is not a pokemon thats gonna have an easy time switching in and even if defense isn't Pyroar's thing is still has to survive before it gets to do its good share of damage. For me its just too risky of a pokemon to use. Still I need to see its stats and complete movepool to make a fair judgment.

Esper September 12th, 2013 10:36 AM

I didn't care for Litleo, but I rather like what it turns into. It's kinda like the child of Flareon and Luxray.

Iceshadow3317 September 12th, 2013 10:43 AM

Well..... not really poison, but look at Scar from Lion King. When he took over the Pride-land. Him and the Hyenas poisoned the land and killed off everything. It is also fiction, anything can happen.

You asking why would a lion be a poison type is like asking how does a dog spit out fire or how a rodent produces electricity.

MarinoKadame September 12th, 2013 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Spinosaurus (Post 7829718)
If they do that they're going to get sued.

How can they get sued over a dinosaur that really exist ? You though Jurassic Park and Ice Age created the Spinosaurus ? The Spinosaurus was named in 1915 by Ernst Stromer.

BeefTaco September 12th, 2013 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MarinoKadame (Post 7829801)
How can they get sued over a dinosaur that really exist ? You though Jurassic Park and Ice Age created the Spinosaurus ? The Spinosaurus was named in 1915 by Ernst Stromer.

Lol I think he was joking since his nickname is Spinosaurus.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 12th, 2013 11:06 AM

I was hoping Pyroar will be pure Fire.

Spinosaurus September 12th, 2013 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BeefTaco (Post 7829761)
It was this theory going around that because Litleo's tail resembled a scorpion tail that its evolution would be based on a Manticore. A Manticore is a mythical creature which is mainly a Lion with traits of other animals like a scorpion tail.

It doesn't look like a scorpion tail to me but that makes sense. Forgot about Manticore.
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Originally Posted by Iceman3317 (Post 7829798)
Well..... not really poison, but look at Scar from Lion King. When he took over the Pride-land. Him and the Hyenas poisoned the land and killed off everything. It is also fiction, anything can happen.

You asking why would a lion be a poison type is like asking how does a dog spit out fire or how a rodent produces electricity.

You know I can get animals getting fire and electricity for some reason but not poison.

I always associated poison types with actual poisonous things, and it's been that way since gen 1.

Also Scar would be a Dark-type if you wanna go there. :P Hey, look at Mightyena, it's already been done!
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Originally Posted by MarinoKadame (Post 7829801)
How can they get sued over a dinosaur that really exist ? You though Jurassic Park and Ice Age created the Spinosaurus ? The Spinosaurus was named in 1915 by Ernst Stromer.

You didn't get the joke did you?

Guy September 12th, 2013 11:19 AM

I want to catch a Litleo and evolve it into Pyroar just so I can nickname it Simba.

This is exactly the evolution I was hoping Litleo would get. I also think the creative decision to fit in the Japanese kanji symbol for fire on its mane is pretty genius. If any of the Gen VI Pokémon have mega evolutions, I hope Pyroar gets one. I think they could even take this design another step further if they wanted to.

Superfox September 12th, 2013 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Sceptile14 (Post 7829730)
I can still maybe see it get a second evolution, as it does look like it could get a bit bigger, the mane could become even bigger and majestic (It is the royal Pokemon.) I wouldn't be disapointed if this was its final evolution, I think that it is one of the best designs yet, I just wish that we could have got a fire/posion type. Litleo's tail really got my hopes up.

I don't think so. The official artwork may make it look like it could evolve, but looking at its in-game appearance really makes it seem like it is the final stage. I actually think it might be revealed that there's an intermediate stage between Litleo and Pyroar, but if there isn't, it wouldn't be too drastic of a change from the first stage to the second.

Bluerang1 September 12th, 2013 11:20 AM

It is using a stick! The stick is on fire!

MarinoKadame September 12th, 2013 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Spinosaurus (Post 7829836)
You didn't get the joke did you?

I wasn't looking at your name at first.

Spinosaurus September 12th, 2013 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Artemis (Post 7829839)
I want to catch a Litleo and evolve it into Pyroar just so I can nickname it Simba.

Buddy, back in the line. I was first.
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Originally Posted by Spinosaurus (Post 7829663)

I'm catching one and naming mine Simba. THIS is the Lion Pokemon we've all been waiting for!

I didn't notice the fire kanji. Shame on me, that's like one of the four kanjis that I actually do know. :(

Superfox September 12th, 2013 11:35 AM

I actually think the reaction to Chespin's evolution is more so because of the angle from which its design is shown than because of the actual design itself.

Yeah, its bulky, but its based off of a horse chestnut pod; of course its gonna be a little rotund.

Anyway, I really have a feeling that the design will be much more accepted once its looked at from the front instead of from below. One of the people I saw complain pointed out its weird nose, but the nose is only drawn like that because of the angle we're seeing it from. If I tilted my face upwards and to the side, you'd probably think I had a weird-shaped nose, too.

ilias_ September 12th, 2013 11:51 AM

After seeing the official artwork of Pyroar, I am in love. Why is GameFreak doing it so hard? I don't want to have more than 1 Fire type on my team. Now I ended up with 4. Damn.. Pyroar is the best design revealed so far in my opinion.

TreeKangaroo September 12th, 2013 11:53 AM

Normal typing is stupid but it gets good STAB with max happiness return and giga impact, and for ghost types, I think it will be able to learn crunch.

Spinosaurus September 12th, 2013 12:12 PM

I do have to say thought Gen 6 so far has been killing it with the designs. What a major improvement over gen 5. After I play the game and see most of the Pokemon I wouldn't be surprised if I'd end up saying, you know, this gen has the best designs by far.

EDIT: Guys Normal is a good type. It's immune to ghost (which will be more common now) and they only have one weakness. Plus, Normal is one of the best offensive types. (Fire + Normal will provide great coverage except against Rock which aren't common in higher level play.)

Snowdrop September 12th, 2013 12:24 PM

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PYROAR! I LOVE IT! We can never have enough lion Pokemon. I wouldn't really care if the whole franchise became Lion-Mon. Normal is my favorite Type so I'm grateful for the double typing. I like his mane a lot, too. The first thing that popped into my mind was one of those royal Egyptian crowns:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9e/Hedjet.svg/100px-Hedjet.svg.pnghttp://serebii.net/pyroar.jpg

ricki13th September 12th, 2013 1:22 PM

Pyroar (Fire/Normal) looks pretty cool it has that royalty look to it not sure about ability if anyone knows.
If I would give it a rating of 1-10 then it would be a:
9.0

TreeKangaroo September 12th, 2013 2:59 PM

Pyroar may be good if you don't do competitive. But just look at him! He looks more lion-like than entei!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 12th, 2013 3:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spinosaurus (Post 7829898)
I do have to say thought Gen 6 so far has been killing it with the designs. What a major improvement over gen 5. After I play the game and see most of the Pokemon I wouldn't be surprised if I'd end up saying, you know, this gen has the best designs by far.

EDIT: Guys Normal is a good type. It's immune to ghost (which will be more common now) and they only have one weakness. Plus, Normal is one of the best offensive types. (Fire + Normal will provide great coverage except against Rock which aren't common in higher level play.)

I'm hoping Pyroar has access to powerful grass moves to take care of Rock, Ground, and Water types, and powerful psychic moves to take down fighting types...oh and that it'll be fast and Sp. Atk oriented.

atomtanned September 12th, 2013 3:25 PM

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Originally Posted by IAm2Sarcastic4U (Post 7828738)
With more days that go by, the more I'm starting to dislike Mega Evolution. Yea it's fresh and something new to the series but it's just too gimicky for my taste. Shoot me now..

I liked it a lot at first, but I feel like they're giving it to way too many Pokemon? And it would have been cool if they stuck to Pokemon like Mawile rather than adding on to already overpowered Pokemon. I don't play competitively, and maybe they'll increase the difficulty of the games, but I can imagine just blazing through a whole save file with a Mega Garchomp (now a possibility because of Pokemon Bank).

JP September 12th, 2013 3:30 PM

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Originally Posted by atomtanned (Post 7830124)
I liked it a lot at first, but I feel like they're giving it to way too many Pokemon? And it would have been cool if they stuck to Pokemon like Mawile rather than adding on to already overpowered Pokemon. I don't play competitively, and maybe they'll increase the difficulty of the games, but I can imagine just blazing through a whole save file with a Mega Garchomp (now a possibility because of Pokemon Bank).

I agree that they should probably have focused more on the less-powerful Pokemon for mega-evolutions, but really... we don't know how many in total there are (could very well have added more megas to less powerful ones than OU and Ubers) and we don't even know if it JUST gives them stat increases. I imagine some, if not all, of these megas will have something increased and something decreased in terms of stats.

I'm still cool and up for these new mega formes.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 12th, 2013 3:40 PM

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Originally Posted by atomtanned (Post 7830124)
I liked it a lot at first, but I feel like they're giving it to way too many Pokemon? And it would have been cool if they stuck to Pokemon like Mawile rather than adding on to already overpowered Pokemon. I don't play competitively, and maybe they'll increase the difficulty of the games, but I can imagine just blazing through a whole save file with a Mega Garchomp (now a possibility because of Pokemon Bank).

If you get the game after December 25 or 27th (depending on where you live) as Pokebank isn't available until then, and it's evolutionary line proably won't be available until either late in game or post game (if at all).

billyjoseph September 12th, 2013 3:53 PM

After all the crap i've been seeing this week that they have released, i'm happy to see Pyroar he has me excited again for X&Y

Arise September 12th, 2013 5:09 PM

My soul died a little when I saw Chespin's and Fennekin's evolutions. My first thoughts were that Chespin's evo is a ridiculous ball-thing, and lost its cuteness completely, while Fennekin's is bizarre and too feminine-looking. After sleeping and letting it sink in, I still hate Chespin's, but Fennekin's is strangely growing on me. I do sincerely wish it stayed quadruped though. Froakie's is the only evo I liked from the start. It looks like a frog/gecko (kind of like Treecko) hybrid to me. I will wait to see the starters' final evos before choosing mine - it might be the first time I prefer the water starter!

Mega Mewtwo X is hideous, what a shame that it's an X-exclusive, since that's the version I'm getting. I 100% prefer Mega Mewtwo Y. I also hate both mega form's feet - X's looks like frog feet, and Y's looks like eggplants or sausages. Bleh.

I really like Nyaonikusu, except for the way the fur swirls in front of the mouth on the white one. :/ I REALLY hope the english name isn't Meowstick, I think that's an awful name (and we already have Meowth and Glameow, can't they come up with something a little more creative? Though I guess I shouldn't be one to talk, as I have a very hard time coming up with names for things...)

Amarusu reminds me of My Little Pony. :P It is cute though. Mega Garchomp is scary (for a Pokemon). Everyone seems to really like Pyroar, but I don't. I don't like Litleo either though, so no loss there.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 12th, 2013 5:35 PM

I wonder what the starter's evolutions names will be...maybe Wilfox (wild fire and fox, or even better Will-o-wisp and Fox) for Fennekin?

Shrew September 12th, 2013 5:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Arise (Post 7830278)
My soul died a little when I saw Chespin's and Fennekin's evolutions. My first thoughts were that Chespin's evo is a ridiculous ball-thing, and lost its cuteness completely, while Fennekin's is bizarre and too feminine-looking. After sleeping and letting it sink in, I still hate Chespin's, but Fennekin's is strangely growing on me. I do sincerely wish it stayed quadruped though. Froakie's is the only evo I liked from the start. It looks like a frog/gecko (kind of like Treecko) hybrid to me. I will wait to see the starters' final evos before choosing mine - it might be the first time I prefer the water starter!

I felt the same way about Fennekin's evolution being too feminine and wishing it was a quadruped. Because Fennekin learns Glow Punch, I was ready for it to become bipedal. And although I personally like to think of Fennekin as a feminine pokemon, unless if the gender ratio reflects it as mostly female, I think this is one of those rare cases where there should be gender differences for a starter. (For instance, the fur could point down so it doesn't resemble a dress.)

Froakie's evo is the one I liked from the start, too. I want to see all their final evolutions.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 12th, 2013 6:15 PM

What's so bad about having a "too feminine" fire starter? the most recent starters seemed "too masculine" but I didn't hear any complaints, double standard much? Personally I'm glad we got a more feminine looking fire starter as it breaks the mold.

Hikamaru September 12th, 2013 6:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7830363)
What's so bad about having a "too feminine" fire starter? the most recent starters seemed "too masculine" but I didn't hear any complaints, double standard much? Personally I'm glad we got a more feminine looking fire starter as it breaks the mold.

I liked how they changed things up this gen, not only the first non-reptilian Grass starter but finally a feminine-looking Fire starter. Froakie's line still sorta continues the semi-aquatic animals for the Water-type though. In fact Kalos is the first region with starters that aren't reptilian too.

MarioManH September 12th, 2013 6:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7830363)
What's so bad about having a "too feminine" fire starter? the most recent starters seemed "too masculine" but I didn't hear any complaints, double standard much? Personally I'm glad we got a more feminine looking fire starter as it breaks the mold.

But still, feminine starters can never beat the Ben Franklin frog.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 12th, 2013 6:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Hikari10 (Post 7830377)
I liked how they changed things up this gen, not only the first non-reptilian Grass starter but finally a feminine-looking Fire starter. Froakie's line still sorta continues the semi-aquatic animals for the Water-type though. In fact Kalos is the first region with starters that aren't reptilian too.

Yeah, each generation until this one had at least one reptile. Gen 1 had 3...Charizard though was the last (and only) fire reptile (after we had mammal, Bird, mammal,mammal, and again mammal...well mammals are warm blooded...)
Feraligatr was the last water reptile (after we had fish?, bird, mammal, and now amphibian. Water is the most diverse!). And Serperior was the most recent in repitilian grass starters...so Chespin's a good mold breaker too! Hopefully it's final evolution won't be a reptile/dinosaur like some hope...

FlamingRage September 12th, 2013 7:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7830363)
What's so bad about having a "too feminine" fire starter? the most recent starters seemed "too masculine" but I didn't hear any complaints, double standard much? Personally I'm glad we got a more feminine looking fire starter as it breaks the mold.

I think a feminine starter is fine... except that 75 percent of them are male. They could change the ratio, but we all know they'll keep it a high male ratio so they can be rare.

(by the way, I think Superior and Oshawott are pretty feminine)

Edit: crazy idea that I can guarantee won't happen: final evolutions of the starters looking different. Or just be completely different pokemon.

Superfox September 12th, 2013 7:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7830308)
I wonder what the starter's evolutions names will be...maybe Wilfox (wild fire and fox, or even better Will-o-wisp and Fox) for Fennekin?

Yeah, really. When are they gonna update us with the English names of the evolutions?

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Originally Posted by FlamingRage (Post 7830462)
(by the way, I think Superior and Oshawott are pretty feminine

Um, how so? I don't think Serperior really looks that feminine and Oshawott is not at all. Its just cutsie. That's not oddly feminine. Heck, its not even that different than any other starter that's come before it.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 12th, 2013 7:24 PM

Thus far Meganium has been our most feminine looking starter. Serperior looks androgynous.

They should update the site in two days (the 14th) so it'll be awile. Thats gives us today and tomorrow to speculate. Froakie's evo may be Groakie...(it looks a bit like a Geeko plus it's a pun on the word croak).

Hikamaru September 12th, 2013 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7830479)
Thus far Meganium has been our most feminine looking starter. Serperior looks androgynous.

They should update the site in two days (the 14th) so it'll be awile. Thats gives us today and tomorrow to speculate. Froakie's evo may be Groakie...(it looks a bit like a Geeko plus it's a pun on the word croak).

Groakie would sound too similar to Froakie, but I'm hoping the English names for the newly-revealed Pokemon from CoroCoro are revealed this weekend or something because going by past reveals relating to X and Y, the localizations were released not long after the Japanese. I'm hoping they all get good names, plus there's that bet that Nyaonikusu might be called Meowstick or something.

Boonzeet September 12th, 2013 11:22 PM

Am I the only person who thinks the long-necked (diplodocus) pokemon looks really, really amateur?

It just doesn't look like a Pokemon at all to me, it looks like a poorly done fan-mon.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 12th, 2013 11:52 PM

Chespin's evolution's name could be Nutike (Nut and Spike).

The diplodocus does look like old fan art I've seen...but I still like it. It is very plain I admit.

Arise September 13th, 2013 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7830363)
What's so bad about having a "too feminine" fire starter? the most recent starters seemed "too masculine" but I didn't hear any complaints, double standard much? Personally I'm glad we got a more feminine looking fire starter as it breaks the mold.

It's not that I have a problem with a Pokemon looking masculine or feminine in and of itself, it's just that I think it makes it awkward when there are no visible differences between genders, like the Machop line or the Gothita line. Then again, it's not like I'm against men looking feminine or women looking masculine irl, so maybe it's good that they do this sort of thing, to beat down on discrimination against cross-dressers and the like. But it really does puzzle me why they'll take the time to give gender differences to Pokemon like Nyaonikusu, who to me looks gender-neutral with both designs, but then leave Pokemon like Lopunny with a single design that gives off a more feminine vibe. I'll stop rambling now. =P

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 13th, 2013 1:04 AM

Maybe the final evolution will have gender differences.

Speaking of which I wonder if female MegaVenusaur's will keep the seed they have as normal Venusaur.

Bluerang1 September 13th, 2013 5:11 AM

Seeing Quilladinin the game makes me like it now. The name is cool too.

Braixen still looks like some type if magician.

I think Frogadier well gain Flying at it's final evo.

BeefTaco September 13th, 2013 5:26 AM

The avatar customization is more extensive than I thought.

JayTheKing September 13th, 2013 5:41 AM

Quilladin?!From Paladin?!!
I love that name sooooo much!I hope its evo will have a lance or 2 shields one on each arm to intensify defense!
So we have our first female evil organization leader!

BeefTaco September 13th, 2013 5:51 AM

Some interesting news on types

"Some more changes regarding types have been announced; Ghost types are no longer affected by moves that prevent fleeing such as Mean Look. Grass Pokémon can't be seeded or affected by moves such as SleepPowder or Stun Spore. Electric types can no longer be Paralysed"

ilias_ September 13th, 2013 5:53 AM

Finally we got the English names. I was surprised when I found out that Pyroar has a female form! I think I like the female more!
All the starter's evolutions looks so good in battle.

And the new type chart with all the things they changed!!! So cool.

Oh boy, 29 days left!! :)

Decimosoma September 13th, 2013 5:57 AM

Different outfits, a salon to change your hair and color.
I'm satisfied with the customization so far.

BeefTaco September 13th, 2013 6:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7830949)
My immediate thought upon seeing the trailer. This is actually a good thing though, for those who are definitely looking for more customization on their trainer. It's about time, instead of always having to go to "that guy" in the Pokemon Center and just assuming a trainer class. Instead of that, you can just choose the kind of style that fits you, which I think is pretty damn awesome.

Yep, GF has taken a real initiative this Gen with all the additional features (hope they have sleeveless shirts). I didn't understand the 10 sec video though, is that suppose to be for your avatar's profile?


Regarding the type changes, Im not really surprised they decided to make Grass types immune to status inducing grass moves like Sleep Powder. In the last World Tournament (I think) the winner really abused Amoongus' Spore. Having now something to counter Spore without having to have Magic Coat is gonna come in handy.

jellotime91 September 13th, 2013 6:14 AM

Customization looks incredible. Way more extensive than I thought it would be!

Now I'm just holding out hope they don't develop a new currency that we have to pay real money for in order to get certain clothing items...

Superfox September 13th, 2013 6:26 AM

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Guy September 13th, 2013 6:34 AM

I was wondering if Pyroar would have a female version to represent the lioness. I like it, possibly even more than I like its male form (and I like that one a lot). Sadly, I still don't like Quilladin anymore in-game than from his artwork. He's got a cool name though, and I hope his final evolution redeems him.

The graphics for double battles look really nice by the way! Less of a clutter.

http://www.pokemonxy.com/_ui/img/_en/screenshots/sept_p14_05_a846f.jpg

Iceshadow3317 September 13th, 2013 6:37 AM

I knew that it would only make since for there to be a female form of Pyroar, since female and male lions look so different in the real world.

I love that we can change our clothing and stuff on our characters. I wonder if we unlock more clothing as we go. I love on the new pokemon and still loving Mewtwo X. X is by far the best game to me. Love all the version exclusives for X while I don't really care for the Y ones.

Livewire September 13th, 2013 6:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Artemis (Post 7830996)
I was wondering if Pyroar would have a female version to represent the lioness. I like it, possibly even more than I like its male form (and I like that one a lot). Sadly, I still don't like Quilladin anymore in-game than from his artwork. He's got a cool name though, and I hope his final evolution redeems him.

The graphics for double battles look really nice by the way! Less of a clutter.

http://www.pokemonxy.com/_ui/img/_en/screenshots/sept_p14_05_a846f.jpg

Well, at least from its name, we know it's based off of/around a knight in armor, quilladin sounds exactly like Paladin. I do like its name more than I like the other two names, though.

And I think Tyrunt's name is the wittiest and cutest Pokemon name ever. It's a wittle Tyrant lizard king in-training. I also thought the female Pyroar form is awesome as well. Imagine packs of those walking around. All around one of the best Polemon this generation.

classiccartoonsftw September 13th, 2013 6:43 AM

Ghost types are no longer affected by moves like Mean Look. Gengar is even more awesome now!

Grass types are no longer affected by Stun Spore and Sleep Powder. At least Ferrothorn gets something in return for the loss of two resistances.

Electric types are now immune to paralysis. Choice Scarf Electrode anyone?

Also, I think Meowstic is going to evolve into Espurr.

BeefTaco September 13th, 2013 7:14 AM

Do you guys think this character (Diantha) could be a Fairy-Type trainer? She looks to me like she could fit the part.

http://www.pokemonxy.com/_ui/img/_en/art/Diantha-X-and-Y.jpg

This had me thinking because your multiple rivals also have a certain color scheme, could it be that GF is going for multiple rivals with specific type of pokemon as some type of Pseudo-Gym Leaders?

blue September 13th, 2013 7:14 AM



That trailer is just overloaded with epicness, the new Pokémon look awesome in-battle.

Livewire September 13th, 2013 7:21 AM

Tyrunt + Pyroar confirmed for most awesome adorable Pokemon ever. So cool.

And I do think Quilladin looks a lot better in-game than it does in paper. In fact, all three do. To the point where I'd reconsider my original starter choice and go with that or Froakie/Frogadier instead of Fennekin.

Otherwise I'll have 5 Fire types on one team

Can't say enough about that gameplay footage though. This game looks incredible.

PlatinumDude September 13th, 2013 7:29 AM

Mega Garchomp just got slower. Huh. Well, that's the price to pay for having increased offenses, right?

Anyway, I'm liking Frogadier more and more not only because of its design, but also because of the name. I'm warming up more towards Quilladin; it just may become a knight in its last evol. I still like Braixen.

Tyrunt kinda sounds cute for a baby T-rex if you ask me. I also can't help but wonder why Meowstic didn't have the "k" at the end like Pokebeach said.

BeefTaco September 13th, 2013 7:41 AM

There seems to be a new stat reducing priority move.

"Furfrou can learn Baby-Doll Eyes, a Fairy-type move new to Pokémon X and Pokémon Y. With Baby-Doll Eyes, the user goes first regardless of Speed. The move can lower the target's Attack stat."

I don't know how useful this will be but is cool I suppose.

Sheep September 13th, 2013 7:51 AM

Chespin's evolution (Quilladin?) looks better in the game than in the official art, definitely. Still don't like how round it is, though. But I love Meowstic oh-so much hnnng hopefully its stats aren't too bad so I could place it on my main team.

Superfox September 13th, 2013 7:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BeefTaco (Post 7831038)
Do you guys think this character (Diantha) could be a Fairy-Type trainer? She looks to me like she could fit the part.

http://www.pokemonxy.com/_ui/img/_en/art/Diantha-X-and-Y.jpg

This had me thinking because your multiple rivals also have a certain color scheme, could it be that GF is going for multiple rivals with specific type of pokemon as some type of Pseudo-Gym Leaders?

Where did you get that image. I didn't see it on Serebii.

Entermaid September 13th, 2013 7:54 AM

^ Check the Japanese Site!

I am going with this one!
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/xy/pokemon/new/images/img_new_25_cap_06.png

BeefTaco September 13th, 2013 7:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Superfox (Post 7831080)
Where did you get that image. I didn't see it on Serebii.

Is at the official pokemon page. Heres the link http://www.pokemonxy.com/en-us/characters/friends/

Superfox September 13th, 2013 7:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BeefTaco (Post 7831084)
Is at the official pokemon page. Heres the link http://www.pokemonxy.com/en-us/characters/friends/

Thanks. To both you and Fenneking.

Entermaid September 13th, 2013 7:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BeefTaco (Post 7831038)
Do you guys think this character (Diantha) could be a Fairy-Type trainer? She looks to me like she could fit the part.

http://www.pokemonxy.com/_ui/img/_en/art/Diantha-X-and-Y.jpg

This had me thinking because your multiple rivals also have a certain color scheme, could it be that GF is going for multiple rivals with specific type of pokemon as some type of Pseudo-Gym Leaders?

I am wondering if she will be our champion?

I like the fact we can sporadically trade pokemon with her as well.


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