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metalhand September 4th, 2013 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DamienHelvian (Post 7818430)
I predict, that the majority of people, will choose Charmander. It's always been one of the most popular...
so, getting a Bulbasaur or Squirtle through GTS by breeders....isn't going to be easy.

Also: Kalos-Chespin, Kanto-Still deciding between Charmander and Squirtle.

Speaking of which...Bulbasaur will probably be left in the dust...it's not too popular.

So I heard something about MegaBlastoise's pokedex entry or something
It can hit targets SIX MILES away
Just imagine that, you're walking along and you hear something
"What sounds like a water fall?"
You turn to look and...HYDRO PUMP TO THE FACE

XD
Blastoise have a big fan-base, not as big as charizard's, but still a large one. So it won't be such a big problem to get squirtle. balbasaur on the other hand...

Also now that you mention its ability to shoot six miles away, I hope that he will be able to hit the faraway pokemon in triple-battle, just for keep things logical

DamienHelvian September 4th, 2013 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metalhand (Post 7818459)
XD
Blastoise have a big fan-base, not as big as charizard's, but still a large one. So it won't be such a big problem to get squirtle. balbasaur on the other hand...

Also now that you mention its ability to shoot six miles away, I hope that he will be able to hit the faraway pokemon in triple-battle, just for keep things logical

Maybe that's a secondary effect of his ability?
Also, don't all Pulse moves (which are supposedly boosted by the new ability) Already hit non-adjacent pokemon in a triple battle? There'd be no point there...
But if it allowed all moves, or at least a certain selection of moves to have increased range to that non-adjacent spot... (Moves like the majority of Water type moves. Water gun, bubble beam, etc. Not moves like surf, because those are area moves, and wouldn't be 'channeled' through a giant cannon)
Also from what I saw in the animation is...why didn't they make the attacks come from the cannon? It would've been cool!

Edit (Because I don't want to post a thousand times)
@Below
GASP!!!! Someone who actually wants bulbasaur?! IT'S AMAZING! Sorry, had to...

Nakala Pri September 4th, 2013 11:10 PM

It is so cool! I can have Fennekin AND a Bulbasaur! I am so excited! Game Freak is rocking it old school, total respect for that company.

ROCK ON GAME FREAK! \m/

Snoopy September 5th, 2013 1:07 AM

For those that missed Pokemon Direct: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbqkqdfrfes

Starting at 12:10 in that video, Junichi Masuda clearly says that we can choose either Chespin, Fennekin, or Froakie along with Bulbasaur, Charmander, or Squirtle to take on our journey.

This makes it pretty obvious that we will get the Kanto starters early in the game. It sucks too, since Blastoise is my favorite Pokemon and want to take him on the journey with me... Although my original plan was to Choose Froakie and Skrelp on my team. Oh well, I guess I can box my Squirtle, along with my Torchic inside the PC and use them after I'm done with the game.

pokemondoesntcurecancer September 5th, 2013 1:53 AM

I'm guessing we receive a gen 1 starter pokemon when we reach PAL park/safari zone thingy on X/Y. Which starts an egg?

Drunken Shinobi September 5th, 2013 4:27 AM

regarding starters...
1.
A. is it possible to trade with a friend the starters?
B. to make more than on save and chose a different pokemon every time?

2.
A. is it possible to get kent shiny starer?
B. is it going to be the same way of getting the 6 gen starters... reset until you get one?

Pinkie-Dawn September 5th, 2013 5:53 AM

With Kanto starters now being available for you to use, the choices has now become even more difficult me. I was originally going to use Fennekin, because I'm going to play as Serena, but now that Torchic and Charmander are here, it'll be frustrating for me to choose only one Fire type for my team, although Blaziken will still be stuck in stuck on ubers due to speed boost from its Mega Evolution, and I don't use ubers in my team. The solution would've been choosing Chespin instead, but it doesn't suit Serena, and I'll be losing my chance to use Gogoat.

Shiny Celebi September 5th, 2013 9:29 AM

I am going to choose Bulbasaur for my Kanto starter in the game. I would like to pick Fennekin as my Kalos starter, so I wanted to pick a Kanto starter of a different type although I love the Charmander line. I probably will not even end up using the Kanto starter though, I want to use all new Pokemon.

Guy September 5th, 2013 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Drunken Shinobi (Post 7818700)
regarding starters...
1.
A. is it possible to trade with a friend the starters?
B. to make more than on save and chose a different pokemon every time?

2.
A. is it possible to get kent shiny starer?
B. is it going to be the same way of getting the 6 gen starters... reset until you get one?

Going by past experiences, you've never been prohibited from trading with friends once you earned your first badge. I assume that hasn't changed here. Multiple save files wont be available though. GameFreak doesn't seem to want to make that an open option for players.

I'm also pretty sure the old "Save and Soft Reset" technique will still be available so we can try our luck at obtaining a shiny starter. This hasn't changed since Gen II.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 5th, 2013 10:36 AM

Currenly I'm mostly divided between Bulbasaur and Charmander...

Sheep September 5th, 2013 10:39 AM

I'm picking Squirtle!! :) So excited. Going to leave him as a Wartortle and can't wait to see it in 3D.

Drunken Shinobi September 5th, 2013 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Artemis (Post 7819077)
Going by past experiences, you've never been prohibited from trading with friends once you earned your first badge. I assume that hasn't changed here. Multiple save files wont be available though. GameFreak doesn't seem to want to make that an open option for players.

I'm also pretty sure the old "Save and Soft Reset" technique will still be available so we can try our luck at obtaining a shiny starter. This hasn't changed since Gen II.

that's good to know. though i'll probably ask it again after i'll obtain the game, to be absolutely sure about the possibility of shiny starters, past and present.

Sukiyomi September 5th, 2013 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Austin1395 (Post 7817703)
Don't get me wrong, I love the Kanto starters. They were my first, always will be. My problem is this: we're already getting Torchic. On top of our Kalos starter. I literally do not need three starter Pokemon before I'm even at the Elite Four. That's ridiculous. Not to mention, giving us Torchic and a Kanto starter, that takes up two slots on our teams. We still have a whole new regions worth of new Pokemon to discover and half my team is filled up by starters because you're that desperate to display the Megas? No. Sorry, not my thing. I've used all the Kanto starters plenty before, I've used Torchic and its evolutions, and seen them used enough. Show off some new Pokemon with Megalutions.

I have to agrre with you Austin. I love the idea of getting these pokemon so early, but it will pretty much negate me exploring the different pokemon in this region. I was actually planning on transfering my blaziken over from my other game, so there is no need for me to have that torchic (Which is my fav pokemon btw) in my party. So I can wait for that. However, I will be using a kanto probably. I plan on going with fennekin so far, so I guess bulbasaur is my way to go. nothing wrong with beefing him up as a defense pokemon with that thick fat ability lol.

Now give me Mega Typhlosion! Ive always thought his design could have been much better like his previous two forms. There is hope yet!

Omicron September 5th, 2013 12:37 PM

MegaCharizard keeping it's fire/flying typing might be a great move from Nintendo competitive-wise if the rumors of fire being resistant to fairy are true. This would give him a resistance to the probably going to be ou fairy pokemon and still have a large move pool for coverage. I'm guessing megastars will be blasted into overused.

DamienHelvian September 5th, 2013 2:21 PM

You know, we all seem to kind of forgotten something.
We're getting a free torchic as well....
That changes things completely
Chespin to cover grass, Squirtle to cover water, and the free Torchic to cover Fire....
That pretty much covers everything you need right there.

EJ Nero September 5th, 2013 3:41 PM

I wasn't expecting this, and while it's a delightful surprise I can't say that I'm fully awed. We should receive the starters sometime during the game pre-pokemon league. I realllyyyy want to see the mega-evolutions of the Kalos starters though. If Froakie is water/fighting like I'm hoping then I bet its mega-evolution will be kick ass.

I will be going with Froakie & Bulbasaur unless Kalos has a great selection of grass types besides Chespin.

iRyahn September 5th, 2013 4:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienHelvian (Post 7819400)
You know, we all seem to kind of forgotten something.
We're getting a free torchic as well....
That changes things completely
Chespin to cover grass, Squirtle to cover water, and the free Torchic to cover Fire....
That pretty much covers everything you need right there.

I don't see why anybody would want to use 3 starters in one team, you are only limited to 6 pokemon as it is. I mean if you plan to do it, all the power to you, but I would much rather focus on Kalos Pokemon; or older generation pokemon that simply aren't starters.

Lyberty September 5th, 2013 5:04 PM

I'm hoping the professor gives the pokémon out early in the game. Either way, I'm going with a bulbasaur. I usually love charmanders but I want fennekin so it would be pointless to add another fire type. I like squirtle as well but I rarely picked bulbasaur in the original games so I want a change. Plus I like how simple the mega evolution for venusaur is. It's not too bold so it looks like the same pokémon.

Hikamaru September 5th, 2013 5:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienHelvian (Post 7819400)
Chespin to cover grass, Squirtle to cover water, and the free Torchic to cover Fire....
That pretty much covers everything you need right there.

Or Froakie to cover Water and Bulbasaur to cover Grass.

But yeah, I like how this idea was executed, I remember in HG/SS you could not only get a Johto starter at the start but also a Kanto and Hoenn starter after defeating Red. If you take one each out of the three trios you can potentially have Grass, Fire and Water covered all at once. But still, I'm hoping we get access to more other regions' starter Pokemon because given we've seen Mega Evolutions of Blaziken and the Kanto starters so far, I wouldn't be surprised if they had Mega Evolutions for all the starters.

SmashBrony September 5th, 2013 5:27 PM

I'm sure I'll get Charmander when I can & as for the Kalos starter, I'll have to see their final evos before deciding.

Or if one of my cousin gets Charmander, I'll choose Bulbasaur...

I do really like the looks of Mega Venusaur...

(hopefully I'll be able to get both of their Mega Stones... if not, Charmander.)

DamienHelvian September 5th, 2013 5:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hikari10 (Post 7819629)
Or Froakie to cover Water and Bulbasaur to cover Grass.

But yeah, I like how this idea was executed, I remember in HG/SS you could not only get a Johto starter at the start but also a Kanto and Hoenn starter after defeating Red. If you take one each out of the three trios you can potentially have Grass, Fire and Water covered all at once. But still, I'm hoping we get access to more other regions' starter Pokemon because given we've seen Mega Evolutions of Blaziken and the Kanto starters so far, I wouldn't be surprised if they had Mega Evolutions for all the starters.

Hahaaaa no
I already decided on Chespin as my Kalos starter.
It was between Squirtle and Charmander for Kanto, then I remembered the Torchic.
I also like the cut of MegaBlastoise's jib.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 5th, 2013 5:33 PM

I may get all Charmander...if so that'll make for a Fire trinity of sorts...

Pinkie-Dawn September 5th, 2013 5:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienHelvian (Post 7819400)
You know, we all seem to kind of forgotten something.
We're getting a free torchic as well....
That changes things completely
Chespin to cover grass, Squirtle to cover water, and the free Torchic to cover Fire....
That pretty much covers everything you need right there.

Quote:

Or Froakie to cover Water and Bulbasaur to cover Grass.
I would've used this ideal trio if I decide not to use Serena, because both Chespin and Froakie don't suit her appearance, only Fennekin. Plus, Torchic may be uber again because Speed Boost as Mega Blaziken's ability, which what got him banned in the first place. If I choose Squirtle, then I'll be lacking key important types as secondary types, Ground and Fighting to be more specific, with a team of Gogoat (Grass), Fennekin (Fire/Psychic?), Blastoise (Water), Sylveon (Fairy), Honedge (Ghost/Steel), and Noiverne (Flying/Dragon). If I choose Bulbasaur, then I won't be having a Grass type with decent type coverage (Venusaur only has Growth, Earthquake, and Sleep Powder as noteworthy moves). MegaCharizard will allow me coverage against Rock and Ground types via spamming Solarbeam, but I do not want to have two Fire types in my team.

xseed September 5th, 2013 6:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Superfox (Post 7819664)
The only bad thing about this I'd say is that it confuses things when it comes to the anime for me (although, I don't even watch the anime anymore. Haven't since I was, like, 9). So, does anime Prof. Sycamore give away Chespin, Fennekin, and Froakie to beginning trainers, or does he give them the Kanto starters?

hmm. speaking of the anime could this mean that ash's charizard may make a return....nah. I am just overthinking.


anyway I already know what starters I am picking. Bulbasaur is one of my favorite gen 1 starters. And since vena's mega form has thick fat he will make an excellent tank. I am also picking fennekin(unless its fiire/fighting JK LOL)

NintendoFreezey September 5th, 2013 8:17 PM

Definitely gonna have to go with Squirtle, S/He will be a great secondary to froakie...

But they all come after my Vanilluxe :3

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 5th, 2013 8:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xseed (Post 7819700)
hmm. speaking of the anime could this mean that ash's charizard may make a return....nah. I am just overthinking.


anyway I already know what starters I am picking. Bulbasaur is one of my favorite gen 1 starters. And since vena's mega form has thick fat he will make an excellent tank. I am also picking fennekin(unless its fiire/fighting JK LOL)

Actually Charizard return seems to be hinted at for awhile in the anime...so it's possible...and maybe Bulbasaur and Squirtle will return too!

On topic: I'm not going to restrict myself to the types of the starters who which one I think "suits" better the player character...so it's an open field for me...that doesn't make it easy to choose though as I can't narrow it down...I love Bulbasaur and Squirtle...but that Droughtzard...

DamienHelvian September 5th, 2013 8:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7819844)
Actually Charizard return seems to be hinted at for awhile in the anime...so it's possible...and maybe Bulbasaur and Squirtle will return too!

On topic: I'm not going to restrict myself to the types of the starters who which one I think "suits" better the player character...so it's an open field for me...that doesn't make it easy to choose though as I can't narrow it down...I love Bulbasaur and Squirtle...but that Droughtzard...

They best not take my idea
bringing the old team back together...

Superfox September 5th, 2013 9:45 PM

All I know, is that I'll be getting Fennekin and Squirtle in my Y version, and the Chespin and Charmander in my X version.

Gogoat Rocks! September 5th, 2013 10:13 PM

I am so getting Chespin and Charmander.

Calamitastrophe September 5th, 2013 10:57 PM

Totally getting Squirtle. MBlastoise looks so cool.

Oh, and it covers who my surfing Pokemon will be haha.

alisaie September 6th, 2013 9:02 AM

I won't be using my Kanto starter but chances are I'll be picking Bulbasaur because it's my favorite one. The reason why I'm not going to be using it is because for my first playthrough I want to use only Kalos Pokemon and if I used a Kanto starter it will ruin the point.

Omicron September 6th, 2013 9:54 AM

I'll probably go with charmander because it's my favorite. Although I'll be choosing fennekin too, so I have a problem there.

G_Sylar September 6th, 2013 9:57 AM

Me too Omicron, we'll end up with 3 fire starters but ..the heart wants what the heart wants.

Rai September 6th, 2013 3:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BinaryPeaches (Post 7820401)
I won't be using my Kanto starter but chances are I'll be picking Bulbasaur because it's my favorite one. The reason why I'm not going to be using it is because for my first playthrough I want to use only Kalos Pokemon and if I used a Kanto starter it will ruin the point.

I agree completely. I love the Kanto starters, but I want to use all Kalos pokemon because, in my opinion, the whole point of the new game is to enjoy using new pokemon. I will probably end up picking Squirtle, but I won't be using it in my team.

Tetra September 6th, 2013 3:56 PM

I'll probably be picking Bulbasaur! I REALLY want that Venusaur, especially the Mega version. From what I've heard, it's even bulkier and stronger. I would of went with Charmander, but ...meh. i luve Bulbasaur, haha xD;;

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 6th, 2013 5:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G_Sylar (Post 7820462)
Me too Omicron, we'll end up with 3 fire starters but ..the heart wants what the heart wants.

Currently chances are I'll end up getting all three available fire starters too...but as you said the heart want what the heart wants...And MegaBlaziken, and MegaCharizard look beast! I hope Mega(Fennekin's final evolution) will look as cool as them :3

Hikamaru September 6th, 2013 5:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7820946)
Currently chances are I'll end up getting all three available fire starters too...but as you said the heart want what the heart wants...And MegaBlaziken, and MegaCharizard look beast! I hope Mega(Fennekin's final evolution) will look as cool as them :3

I know what it's like, there's been so many awesome Fire-types confirmed to be available in X and Y. I know what it'd be like, but doubling up on types can make teams unbalanced, like when I was a noob in Ruby and had two Grass and two Water Pokemon in the same team. But yeah hoping the starters in Kalos get awesome evolutions, Froakie's are the ones I'm hoping are the coolest. I'm in a situation like yours where I decided on Froakie as my Kalos starter yet I wanted a Squirtle. Since I didn't want to repeat my noob moment of 3rd Gen I went with my second fave Kanto starter, Bulbasaur just because I didn't like many of the new Grass-types so far. Gogoat does look alright but I'm more inclined to special-based Grass-types.

Omicron September 6th, 2013 5:31 PM

Hah, with megacharizard in the way, talonflame wil say goodbye to my team. :( I can't have three fire types in one team, hahaha.

Seriously, all 3 mega kanto starters are beasts, they have some very sleek designs.

metalhand September 6th, 2013 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hikari10 (Post 7820961)
I know what it's like, there's been so many awesome Fire-types confirmed to be available in X and Y. I know what it'd be like, but doubling up on types can make teams unbalanced, like when I was a noob in Ruby and had two Grass and two Water Pokemon in the same team. But yeah hoping the starters in Kalos get awesome evolutions, Froakie's are the ones I'm hoping are the coolest. I'm in a situation like yours where I decided on Froakie as my Kalos starter yet I wanted a Squirtle. Since I didn't want to repeat my noob moment of 3rd Gen I went with my second fave Kanto starter, Bulbasaur just because I didn't like many of the new Grass-types so far. Gogoat does look alright but I'm more inclined to special-based Grass-types.

The main story not that hard, and you can beat it with weak and unbalanced teams, I have beated the games alot with team which had double types(the first time I beated the elite four I had Charizard, Aerodactyl and Pidgeot).

Not that I'm a pro or something like this, thats just how things seems to me

Hederbomb September 7th, 2013 12:10 PM

I'll get Squritle, But im gonna choose froakie so I have a problem there I guess... or just get another copy and 3DS and trade the starters for the Kalos regions Zubat.

(By that I mean The pokemon thats everywhere, but nobody wants it)

Guy September 7th, 2013 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by metalhand (Post 7821406)
The main story not that hard, and you can beat it with weak and unbalanced teams, I have beated the games alot with team which had double types(the first time I beated the elite four I had Charizard, Aerodactyl and Pidgeot).

Not that I'm a pro or something like this, thats just how things seems to me

This is exactly why it doesn't bother me whether or not my Kanto starter choice is the same type as my Kalos starter. Competitive battling is a different story compared to the Pokémon you can use in-game, so it doesn't really matter who you choose and if you have overlapping types. That being said, I'm pretty bent on choosing Chespin as my Kalos starter and Squirtle or Charmander as my Kanto starter, so this issue really exactly a problem for me.

WildEagle September 7th, 2013 6:36 PM

Going to pick Fennekin for Kalos starter and Bulbasaur as my Kanto. Initially I was going for the grass starter but I just can't seem to like Chespin. Something with it's design just turns me off it and Fennekin is so friggin' cute, I just hope it's evolution are cute too :]
Kalos will be the first region I don't pick a grass starter >.>

At least good ol' Bulbasaur will be there as my grass starter. Now I'm just hoping I can find a way to smuggle my Chikorita, Treecko, Turtwig and Snivy egg from BW2 so I can stare at my beautiful grass types starters when they graceful move during battle.

Alloute September 7th, 2013 7:00 PM

I'm glad that the old retro starters will be available in X/Y. I was really disappointed with the X/Y starter Pokemon at first and while I've grown to love Froakie, I still don't like the other two so I'm glad I'll have other options of which starters to choose. I'll prolly end up picking Charmander or Bulbasaur in X version and I'll get Froakie in Y.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 7th, 2013 8:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alloute (Post 7822687)
I'm glad that the old retro starters will be available in X/Y. I was really disappointed with the X/Y starter Pokemon at first and while I've grown to love Froakie, I still don't like the other two so I'm glad I'll have other options of which starters to choose. I'll prolly end up picking Charmander or Bulbasaur in X version and I'll get Froakie in Y.

You get one of each trio so you can get Froakie and Charmander or Bulbasaur in one and the other and another of the Kalos (or Froakie again) starters if you'll like.

White Raven September 8th, 2013 7:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienHelvian (Post 7818430)
I predict, that the majority of people, will choose Charmander. It's always been one of the most popular...
so, getting a Bulbasaur or Squirtle through GTS by breeders....isn't going to be easy.

Also: Kalos-Chespin, Kanto-Still deciding between Charmander and Squirtle.

Speaking of which...Bulbasaur will probably be left in the dust...it's not too popular.

So I heard something about MegaBlastoise's pokedex entry or something
It can hit targets SIX MILES away
Just imagine that, you're walking along and you hear something
"What sounds like a water fall?"
You turn to look and...HYDRO PUMP TO THE FACE

most people will take advantage of the fact that torchic will be distributed and get froakie and bulbasuar (ie me) or chespin and squirtle. Mega Charizard is wicked though

Magykx September 8th, 2013 7:51 AM

This has put me in turmoil because while I'm so excited, I also don't know which I'll choose! I know I'm choosing Fennekin, but I just love Mega Charizard so much and I don't want to get the two of the same types if I'm going to utilize them in my party!

Ahhg! I guess if nothing else I'll choose Squirtle.

GeckoPutt September 8th, 2013 8:17 AM

At first I was thinking that I'll go for Squirtle as I'll have Chespin and (the event) Torchic in my team to make the typing trinity complete - however, I think having three starters on my team will discourage me to use new ones that I've never seen or had before... not to mention the unfair advantage that I think Starters bring.

Aeroblast September 8th, 2013 11:37 AM

It depends on the general availability of the Pokemon with the typing that these starters in question have. For example if there is a dearth of Grass type Pokemon, I'd pick Bulbasaur.


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