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Guy September 13th, 2013 5:20 PM

It's an interesting question to bring up, and while I doubt very much that it will work, we can bring this discussion into the thread about the PokéBank and Transporter.

Blakmage September 15th, 2013 7:19 AM

I'm worried!

Hello from Ireland. My story is long but bear with me.

Back in 2005 I was fortunate enough to receive a female modest togepi with serene grace and the move tri attack. As most of you will know, getting each of these traits is a feat in itself, but the fact it happened first time is nothing short of a miracle. Destiny!

Since then, my partner and I have been through thick and thin - I have transferred her with me on my journeys through all subsequent games and regions since our fateful meeting. She is now a very powerful Togekiss. However I noticed that when a friend wanted to borrow her briefly for a tournament, I couldn't transfer her to him via GTS due to her having a National Ribbon. She got this when I purified her on Pokemon XD.

I realise that the new generation works on transferring older pokemon to the new game in a similar way to the GTS. The pokemon is transferred into the ether and traded that way. My question is: will pokemon from XD that have the national ribbon be able to be transferred to generation 6?? Any opinions or advice on this matter would be greatly appreciated and welcomed. If I have to leave her behind, I think that would be the end of my pokemon journey.

JayTheKing September 15th, 2013 7:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Blakmage (Post 7833941)
I'm worried!

Hello from Ireland. My story is long but bear with me.

Back in 2005 I was fortunate enough to receive a female modest togepi with serene grace and the move tri attack. As most of you will know, getting each of these traits is a feat in itself, but the fact it happened first time is nothing short of a miracle. Destiny!

Since then, my partner and I have been through thick and thin - I have transferred her with me on my journeys through all subsequent games and regions since our fateful meeting. She is now a very powerful Togekiss. However I noticed that when a friend wanted to borrow her briefly for a tournament, I couldn't transfer her to him via GTS due to her having a National Ribbon. She got this when I purified her on Pokemon XD.

I realise that the new generation works on transferring older pokemon to the new game in a similar way to the GTS. The pokemon is transferred into the ether and traded that way. My question is: will pokemon from XD that have the national ribbon be able to be transferred to generation 6?? Any opinions or advice on this matter would be greatly appreciated and welcomed. If I have to leave her behind, I think that would be the end of my pokemon journey.

It is gonna work like the PC boxes in the games.Anything can be stored.

Blakmage September 15th, 2013 7:28 AM

Thanks Jay, but I'm also worried that because my togekiss has tri attack and softboiled, the software will not allow transfer because it may see it as an illegitimate pokemon - even though they aren't. What do you think?

JayTheKing September 15th, 2013 7:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Blakmage (Post 7833954)
Thanks Jay, but I'm also worried that because my togekiss has tri attack and softboiled, the software will not allow transfer because it may see it as an illegitimate pokemon - even though they aren't. What do you think?

The only reason the software wouldnt accept it is if you had used action replay or pokegen on it

Blakmage September 15th, 2013 7:37 AM

Well I definitely haven't used those things on anything. I've never even heard of pokegen before now! Thanks for the help man. I feel a bit more at ease now.

Livewire September 15th, 2013 8:01 AM

I really want to like this idea, buuuuuuuuut:

I don't really agree with the premise of a recurring (being the key word) fee to use this thing indefinitely. I think a one-time fee is pretty reasonable. But it is only like five dollars (?) so I guess that's not too bad.

I do like the attempt to try and get hacked Pokemon off the market, I wish they'd be a little more hawkish with the GTS in that regard. However, if the cloud doesn't accept clones, then I'd worry a little about the future of RNG and trading.

SnowpointQuincy September 15th, 2013 2:01 PM

Do you think eggs can be stored in the Cloud? How have "Box" Games worked in the past?

I just spent an hour gathering eggs for all Starter Pokemon from all 5 Games. I hope I can transfer the eggs and hatch them in GEN6.

GeckoPutt September 15th, 2013 3:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SnowpointQuincy (Post 7834305)
Do you think eggs can be stored in the Cloud? How have "Box" Games worked in the past?

I just spent an hour gathering eggs for all Starter Pokemon from all 5 Games. I hope I can transfer the eggs and hatch them in GEN6.

That's a very question that I would certainly love to know the answer to as I have done the exact same thing! I'm sure we can though - I mean, if we can trade them and store them in boxes in-game, then I don't see why we can't transfer them and store them in boxes in the cloud.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 15th, 2013 3:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SnowpointQuincy (Post 7834305)
Do you think eggs can be stored in the Cloud? How have "Box" Games worked in the past?

I just spent an hour gathering eggs for all Starter Pokemon from all 5 Games. I hope I can transfer the eggs and hatch them in GEN6.

I sure hope so...I'm thinking of restarting the game and running a team made of all starters from past games after Pokebank comes out in December.

darkpokeball September 15th, 2013 4:12 PM

I just thought of something...what if Pokemon Bank can be used as a cloning method? For this example, we'll be cloning a Smeargle.
Step One: Save the game. Then, create a save-data back up(you click the little triangle icon)
Step Two: Reopen the game and transfer the Smeargle to Pokemon Bank. Of course, your game will save automatically, most likely.
Step Three: Exit the game and then use the save back-up you made earlier. Your new save has the Smeargle in it, because you backed up the save before you transferred the pokemon.
Step Four: Take the Smeargle from Pokemon Bank and put it back into your game.

Ta-Da! Two Smeargles! Would this work?

Echidna September 15th, 2013 4:42 PM

This feature is honestly brilliant. Allowing you to preserve your favorite Pokemon forever in cloud storage is something I have personally never though of, but I can now see how useful it is. From Gen 6 forward, we won't have to worry about accidentally erasing our save files in terms of losing our Pokemon. Not to mention that you can pass down your Pokemon to future generations and all that other nifty stuff.

I also understand and am fine with the annual fee. I mean it is cloud storage after all.

SnowpointQuincy September 15th, 2013 6:07 PM

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Originally Posted by darkpokeball (Post 7834493)
I just thought of something...what if Pokemon Bank can be used as a cloning method? For this example, we'll be cloning a Smeargle.
Step One: Save the game. Then, create a save-data back up(you click the little triangle icon)
Step Two: Reopen the game and transfer the Smeargle to Pokemon Bank. Of course, your game will save automatically, most likely.
Step Three: Exit the game and then use the save back-up you made earlier. Your new save has the Smeargle in it, because you backed up the save before you transferred the pokemon.
Step Four: Take the Smeargle from Pokemon Bank and put it back into your game.

Ta-Da! Two Smeargles! Would this work?

There is no way of knowing exactly how Bank would work, but I doubt cloning would be this easy.

Adryel September 23rd, 2013 1:03 AM

Pokemon Bank
 
Why does the Pokemon Bank only allowed Gen V games, why not Gen IV? I mean same cartridge right? :(
also in same engine.
can someone explain if there's wrong in my statement lol

Nick B. September 23rd, 2013 1:21 AM

I suppose because there is a way to transfer from Gen 4 to Gen 5, so they think there's no need for this feature. But it would actually be pretty nice for people who haven't played Gen 5 and want to start again in Gen 6 ;)

Guy September 23rd, 2013 2:52 AM

Merging your thread into an already on-going discussion about the PokéBank, Adryel.

The question behind why the Bank wasn't adapted to work for Gen IV games as well as V, probably has to do with the missing DSi enhancements as someone mentioned before. Which could be the reason why only the Gen V games are capable of working with the PokéBank and not Gen IV. Or maybe it's because GameFreak simply didn't want to do it.

No one really knows for sure, but at least the reason of missing DSi enhancements from the Gen IV games sounds a little bit more credible, yeah?

Adryel September 24th, 2013 12:31 AM

yep Artemis,
plus I don't have another DS console to transfer IV - V
so I hope someone send this to gamefreak making a way or at least wouldn't acquire another console just to transfer pokemon from IV - VI

Aaron40 September 24th, 2013 1:27 AM

Does anyone know how much Pokebank is going to cost?

Hiatus September 24th, 2013 1:50 AM

PokéBank is going to cost you five dollars per month, I believe. You're going to get a free trial though, and if you like it, then you may keep using the service. If not, then you're always free to cancel it. (: In my opinion, it's not expensive at all. Most of us spend a lot more money than that on other things every day, such as food, clothes, and laundry.

Adryel September 24th, 2013 2:43 AM

they said 5 dollar per year? O.o

Ω Ruby and α Sapphire September 24th, 2013 3:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Adryel (Post 7847053)
they said 5 dollar per year? O.o

Hmm, that's what I recall as well. Personally, I think $5 a month is very pricy, as that works out to be $60 dollars a year, which is the same price as the game here. $5 a year sounds on the other hand sounds very reasonable and if that is the case I will definitely purchase.

GeckoPutt September 24th, 2013 5:54 AM

I'm getting myself a little confused with the release date of Pokémon Bank - I'm certain that it's coming out in December, but a lot of people and websites are telling me that it'll have a simultaneous release date alongside Pokémon X & Pokémon Y.

Any clarification available here guys? :P

Typhon September 24th, 2013 11:44 AM

Oh, so it's going to be released on the December 25th, huh? That sounds like a fair amount of time. A little late, though since the games are going to be released in 20 days or so. I plan on getting it; but I just might not, haha xD

jellotime91 September 24th, 2013 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Adryel (Post 7846989)
yep Artemis,
plus I don't have another DS console to transfer IV - V
so I hope someone send this to gamefreak making a way or at least wouldn't acquire another console just to transfer pokemon from IV - VI

The Gen V games were made with the 3DS in mind. They can interface with the 3DS in different ways that Gen IV games couldn't. For example, Gen V games can use WPA2 WiFi when used in a 3DS, while Gen IV games can not.

GeckoPutt September 25th, 2013 6:11 PM

I have another question if you will guys.

If a Pokémon is able to be deposited into the GTS without any problems, could we then assume then that it would be able to be transferred into the Pokémon Bank without any foreseeable issues?

I would assume that it's ability to be able to be accepted into GTS means its legitimacy is adequate enough for both the GTS and the Pokémon Bank? Am I right?
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Shrew September 26th, 2013 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by GeckoPutt (Post 7849700)
I have another question if you will guys.

If a Pokémon is able to be deposited into the GTS without any problems, could we then assume then that it would be able to be transferred into the Pokémon Bank without any foreseeable issues?

I would assume that it's ability to be able to be accepted into GTS means its legitimacy is adequate enough for both the GTS and the Pokémon Bank? Am I right?
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I assumed that they were going to update there hack-checkers.

I know I've seen some weird stuff uploaded in Diamond/Pearl GTS (such as a Sealeo with the appearance of a Mew), in which google-searching told me that it was hacks. I didn't use the GTS in other games, so I don't know how proficient the GTS is at blocking hacks. I know that recently Gamefreak has become better at stopping hacks from entering online battles, which is why I made the above assumption.

GeckoPutt September 26th, 2013 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Shrew (Post 7850043)
I assumed that they were going to update there hack-checkers.

I know I've seen some weird stuff uploaded in Diamond/Pearl GTS (such as a Sealeo with the appearance of a Mew), in which google-searching told me that it was hacks. I didn't use the GTS in other games, so I don't know how proficient the GTS is at blocking hacks. I know that recently Gamefreak has become better at stopping hacks from entering online battles, which is why I made the above assumption.

Oh okay. Thanks. Has anyone else got any opinion on this as well - just so I can get a broad idea? :)

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 26th, 2013 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Shrew (Post 7850043)
I assumed that they were going to update there hack-checkers.

I know I've seen some weird stuff uploaded in Diamond/Pearl GTS (such as a Sealeo with the appearance of a Mew), in which google-searching told me that it was hacks. I didn't use the GTS in other games, so I don't know how proficient the GTS is at blocking hacks. I know that recently Gamefreak has become better at stopping hacks from entering online battles, which is why I made the above assumption.

Same here.
Hopefully they'll also get rid of the low level legendaries which aren't obtainable, same with Pokemon that evolve at higher levels...as it makes the GTS come off as Global Troll Station instead of Global Trade Station...

SnowpointQuincy September 27th, 2013 11:17 PM

I hope the Pokemon Bank will Solve the "One Save Slot Problem"

Imagine beating the Elite four, catching all the new mons, uploading them into the Bank. Then Start a new Game and download all you old pokemon.

You get to start a new adventure using any pokemon you have, and keep all of the pokemon you collected before.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 28th, 2013 12:03 AM

@ Snowpoint My thoughts exactly after realizing that we could deposit them all and withdraw them later. At long as the Bank doesn't rely on some code from a save file or anything like that which can be erased when deleting an old file...

FireOfExile September 28th, 2013 4:30 AM

I think it'd be neat if you could have an eShop version of X/Y and a physical copy of a Gen V game, put the Gen V game in, and just directly transfer them.

FireOfExile September 28th, 2013 6:02 AM

Sorry for being off topic, but how does transferring work between Gen IV and Gen V? I never did it before, and I'm wondering how they transferred it from a DS game to another DS game without them being in the same system.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 28th, 2013 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hiroshi Sotomura (Post 7852889)
Transferring requires two DS consoles—one with Diamond/Pearl/Platinum/HeartGold/SoulSilver inserted (the source DS), and one with Black/White/Black 2/White 2 inserted (the target DS). In the 5th generation games, after you get the National Dex, you can access a feature called the Poké Transporter, which is basically a mini game that downloads onto the source DS and lets you transfer the Pokémon, six at a time, across into the target games.

Pokémon Bank works with one 3DS, because the software in question isn't on a game card. Useful. Hopefully it doesn't jam an unnecessary mini game in-between transfers.

Get this: Pokémon Bank pretty much means Pokémon all the way from 10 years ago when Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire were out will be able to travel into X & Y! This is chilling.

I know right...it's so nice that those of us who played RSE( and FrLG) will be able to keep our Pokemon to now and possibly further :3

DamienHelvian September 28th, 2013 10:24 PM

I have a question about the bank system.
When used for the transfer process, does anyone know if it will allow Held items?
Like, the Transfer system between 4 and 5 doesn't allow held items...
Will this one?

Ari Niko September 28th, 2013 10:28 PM

Way better system. I like it a lot more than the previous messes http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ed2305b7.png

Lets just hope it's not a mess itself

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 28th, 2013 10:39 PM

I also doubt they'll allow items to be transfered...

Adryel September 29th, 2013 2:51 AM

when can will be able to deposit and withdraw pokemon? right after we get our pokedex?

JayTheKing September 29th, 2013 2:53 AM

Wait how does the exp share work now?

MarinoKadame September 29th, 2013 3:38 AM

I think only items like Blazikenite will be able to be on bank.

CoffeeDrink September 29th, 2013 9:55 PM

I'm looking forward to this, koff~

It'll mean I don't have to release tons of Pokemon! I can keep all of my Koffing and others hatched from breeding. It'll also be easier to get all the Pokemon Exclusives I think. It'll also make it easier for people to go through the games, grab the legendaries and upload them, and start a new game. It'll also make challenges a bit easier. I've seen that some of them require you to hack the game in order to play them properly. Hopefully this will put the cloning and hacking issue to rest. I just hope it doesn't cost much, koff~

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 29th, 2013 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Adryel (Post 7854110)
when can will be able to deposit and withdraw pokemon? right after we get our pokedex?

Starting in late December. Thus far we know it'll be the 25th for Japan, and the 27th Europe. We still don't know when it'll come out in the U.S. or Australia...nor do we know if it'll be available in other parts of the world actually...I imagine it will be though.

Adryel September 30th, 2013 1:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7855449)
Starting in late December. Thus far we know it'll be the 25th for Japan, and the 27th Europe. We still don't know when it'll come out in the U.S. or Australia...nor do we know if it'll be available in other parts of the world actually...I imagine it will be though.

I'm from philippines I hope they don't do this

Dakotah September 30th, 2013 5:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DamienHelvian (Post 7817826)
Not everyone can even afford that

Dollar stores around here even carry them for a buck or two depending on the size. The one here has some 256MB and 512MB cards. Not very large, I agree, but it's something. Also, people sometimes sell them at garage sales for pennies (or nickles and dimes).

James169 September 30th, 2013 6:29 AM

Just to check as I haven't read through all the other pages so sorry if this has already been asked but can you transfer from black/white/b2/w2 to x/y on just one 3ds using pokemon bank?
And similarly x to y or vice virsa

jazneo September 30th, 2013 11:51 AM

PokeTranport and PokeGTS problem for black 2 and white 2 Problem
 
PokeTranport and PokeGTS problem for black 2 and white 2 Problem


they might be problem when this come out people use The PokeGTS customize DNS hack will be able bring there hack pokemon to pokemon X and Y lol



pokeGTS DNS hack let you put ability on pokemon and skill set that would normal not be on the pokemon

Shiarra October 1st, 2013 8:11 AM

I mainly hate it because people like me can't pay for it.

pedrito3_poke October 1st, 2013 8:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Shiarra (Post 7857221)
I mainly hate it because people like me can't pay for it.

Seriously? So you can afford the game and a Nintendo 3DS and you can't pay for the Pokémon Bank?
I don't think you're aware of it, but the service will cost like 5$ a year, which is ridiculously cheap.
We're lucky this isn't EA or some other company like that... in that case, 5$ a month would be pretty cheap, lol.

jazneo October 1st, 2013 9:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Shiarra (Post 7857221)
I mainly hate it because people like me can't pay for it.

you get free trail transfer your become that time

MrGriszell October 1st, 2013 9:37 AM

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Originally Posted by pedrito3_poke (Post 7857241)
Seriously? So you can afford the game and a Nintendo 3DS and you can't pay for the Pokémon Bank?
I don't think you're aware of it, but the service will cost like 5$ a year, which is ridiculously cheap.
We're lucky this isn't EA or some other company like that... in that case, 5$ a month would be pretty cheap, lol.

Bravo bravo I couldn't of said it better

Water Gym Leader October 1st, 2013 9:53 AM

Items from X and Y will be able to be stored in PokeBank. HM moves might cause a restriction on transfer like it has in previous transfers. Items may just go back into the original game's bag like in the transfers to gen 5. And hacked Pokemon won't go through.

One thing I want to know is can I connect both X and Y to the same PokeBank.

pedrito3_poke October 1st, 2013 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7857338)
Yes its cheap, but ganging up on people that say they cannot pay for it is bullying.

Oh, believe me when I say that I absolutely hate it when people do that (I've played many online video games, so you probably know what I'm talking about). I hate it when people are like "oh you can buy a great weapon for only 20$, so don't complain, because if you have computer and internet you can pay for it!" (bf heroes reference) but this is a different case. This is just a bargain. You want it, you have it.

But, as you've said, there might be other reasons, besides the actual amount of money, but then the op should have specified it. The op saying that she hates the pokémon bank because she can't pay for it, sounds like there's something wrong with the Pokémon Bank, it gives the idea that the op finds it overpriced, which clearly isn't true. Of course people (if not me, someone else probably) would reply thinking that she wasn't aware of the price or just needed to look at it from another perpective (hence why I mentioned EA).

So yeah, I never meant to offend anyone, but if I did it's the op's fault. Seriously, when you say that you can't pay for it, you can't expect people not to interpret it as you finding it too expensive or you not being aware of the price. If there's a reason besides that, then the op should quite obviously have mentioned it. I'm sorry, I'm not analysing a poem, I'm not supposed to try and look deep into what the poster might have meant. I'm just quickly browsing through a forum, looking at all the posts in a superficial way.

Now I would actually like to get a reply from the original poster to clarify things.

Shiarra October 1st, 2013 11:22 AM

For starters, please stop coming across so rudely, I'm not a child, i don't have a job, and i only get money when my family gives me some as a gift, so in other words, i cannot afford monthly things, also i'm female, that is specified in my posts with the gender icon and the word female next to it. I also don't own a 3DS, or the game, cause i cannot afford either, wish i could.

Treecko October 4th, 2013 7:30 PM

Will it's not new to most people, here's more details on Pokemon Bank revealed on serebii.

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It has been announced that the storage app, Pokémon Bank, is due for release in North America on December 27th. With it comes a 30 day free pass if you download and play the application before February 1st. From then on, if you wish to use the services, including Poke Transporter, you will need to pay a yearly fee of $4.99. It also confirms that you cannot have items on your Pokémon when you send it to Bank, with the items returning to your bag. It was previously announced that this facility would be available in Japan from December 25th for 500¥ a year and in Europe from December 27th for an unannounced fee.
5 dollars a year isn't much ( if you can spend $5 a day on a morning cup of coffee you can afford 5 a year for this) but I can understand people who can't afford this if they can't afford the game or a 3DS at the moment. I'm personally taking advantage of the free trail as much as I can though. I have no job myself so I get how they feel. I'm looking to get one though so I can do this. Still will be using the feature afterwords too.

WingedDragon October 4th, 2013 7:37 PM

If theres a free 30 day trial. I would probably push everyone in ASAP and get them into my X game. I may pay for it tho depending on the competition things

Treecko October 4th, 2013 7:49 PM

More details the official site has set up a FAQ thing on Pokemon Bank.

http://www.pokemonxy.com/en-gb/strategy/pokemon_bank_faq/

MarinoKadame October 4th, 2013 8:00 PM

No items in the bank, guess you must rely on trading instead if you want a new game by keeping your megastones. Don't think I will use the bank that much actually. And I will mostly only rely on GTS and trading. By the time it come out I would not like to reset my game.

DamienHelvian October 6th, 2013 10:48 PM

Since Items won't be allowed in the transfer system
I hope they remembered to put certain hold items somewhere in X and Y.
Such as the three Creation orbs. . . .

Darkabel October 6th, 2013 11:08 PM

This point is interesting:

"Can I use Pokémon Bank as soon as it finishes downloading, or must I reach a certain point in my Pokémon X or Pokémon Y game first?
If you download Pokémon Bank to your system in the Nintendo 3DS family, you will be able to use it at any point after obtaining your Pokédex in Pokémon X and Pokémon Y. You cannot use it if you have Pokémon X or Pokémon Y but have not begun the game."

So I can start a game get the starter and pokedex, and put that pokemon in the pokebank. Then start a new game get a new starter and put that it the bank. Start another new game, get the last starter, get the other two out of the bank and have all three starters?

DamienHelvian October 7th, 2013 5:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkabel (Post 7869025)
This point is interesting:

"Can I use Pokémon Bank as soon as it finishes downloading, or must I reach a certain point in my Pokémon X or Pokémon Y game first?
If you download Pokémon Bank to your system in the Nintendo 3DS family, you will be able to use it at any point after obtaining your Pokédex in Pokémon X and Pokémon Y. You cannot use it if you have Pokémon X or Pokémon Y but have not begun the game."

So I can start a game get the starter and pokedex, and put that pokemon in the pokebank. Then start a new game get a new starter and put that it the bank. Start another new game, get the last starter, get the other two out of the bank and have all three starters?

I highly, highly doubt it. Since the X and Y pokemon will have the various Trainer ID numbers, and every new game you start will have a unique number, you most likely won't be able to withdraw pokemon that aren't yours. The only exception being, predecessor pokemon from Gen V. And I presume they've also altered the numbering system to make them unique to X and Y, so it'll be easier for the system to tell the difference, since, as we know, there will be some older gen pokemon in Kalos.

And that's just the normal banking system. I don't think the Transporter will work as such, since the Regional pokedex won't have ALL the pokemon in it, and thus, wouldn't be able to recognize any pokemon you try and transport. That part of it will be like the Transfer Center most likely, and unlock when you receive the National pokedex.
Of course you'll still be able to store them. I'll only be using the transporter, as I don't actually see the point of the bank system
Up until now, with how many PC boxes there are in game, you can have one of EVERY SINGLE POKEMON, and still have room. And twice now, I think, they've increased the number of Boxes, since the total number of pokemon exceeded the maximum space. With the new additions, they will be exceeding 720, and they'll have to update the number of Boxes, since there will be plenty of people who don't want to use the Bank. If they go up to just 30, that's 900 spots, more than enough as usual.

Edit: Something else I remembered. A more pertinent reason for why you cant do this
The Bank and Transfer system isnt coming out til the 27th of December

DamienHelvian October 7th, 2013 6:49 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7870845)
Gamefreak confirmed that you can deposite other ID'd Pokemon into your bank and withdraw them on any X and Y game. If you could not then we wouldn't be able to transfer into Gen 6. They also said that they plan to keep the Bank up for future Pokemon games meaning this may be the future way to transfer Pokemon to other games. But yes, you most likely CAN deposit Pokemon into the bank and then reset to a new game.

Its a pass down feature that hasn't been seen since Stadium.

You are also able to trade Pokemon that are not in the regional Pokedex into the games. We have been since Gen 4. Not having a Pokedex spot or Nationaldex doesn't effect trading into the game from a friend.

We are also able to type in the species of Pokemon we are searching for in GTS so we don't even have to see them anymore. If we wanted to we could GTS Mewtwo who isn't in the Kalos Regional Pokedex and get one on our games if there are any trades open that you can accept, before getting the National Pokedex.

Then what's the point of having both a Regional and National Pokedex? Why not just give us the whole thing from the start?
And I didn't know it was in Gen IV because I have no friends to trade with.

ShinyTotodile October 9th, 2013 12:38 AM

Once traded to a legitimate cartridge (Diamond), will Pokemon caught normally on a r4 Heartgold ROM with no stat changes etc be able to be transfered to black 2 (legit cartridge) and into the pokemon bank to a legit X or Y game without detection?

Zorogami October 9th, 2013 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ShinyTotodile (Post 7872916)
Once traded to a legitimate cartridge (Diamond), will Pokemon caught normally on a r4 Heartgold ROM with no stat changes etc be able to be transfered to black 2 (legit cartridge) and into the pokemon bank to a legit X or Y game without detection?

I think as long as you have a legit BW or BW2 cartridge inserted, it should be no problem, because that is what the pokemon bank app probably checks, like the dream radar!

ShinyTotodile October 9th, 2013 12:51 AM

Possibly, but I'm worried about it finding out that the pokemon aren't from a real cartridge originally, even if their stats are the normal and they were caught without any cheats/hacks.

Zorogami October 9th, 2013 1:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ShinyTotodile (Post 7872931)
Possibly, but I'm worried about it finding out that the pokemon aren't from a real cartridge originally, even if their stats are the normal and they were caught without any cheats/hacks.

well, i really don´t know how many details pokemon bank will check before "allowing" you to send a pokemon in. I think though it´s not going to be much of a problem, since a pokemon caught on a flashcard shouldnt be any different from one caught on the original. i had both pokemon fom an original White 2 and a r4 Black on the GTS, and it worked just fine.

CoffeeDrink October 9th, 2013 1:08 AM

How exciting, koff~

I can't wait to use this feature! It sounds like a great way for me to store Pokemon I have no room for that others might want! 3,000 Pokemon huh? I'm always up for a challenge. I filled out my boxes in Pokemon White Version and I can fill out more! I always thought it was silly to hoard Pokeballs in the hundreds and not use them, so I started fishing for moonstones with Clefairy and Lunatone. No luck so far, but I just release them anyway. It's all in the adventure, koffi~

Zorogami October 9th, 2013 1:11 AM

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Originally Posted by CoffeeDrink (Post 7872960)
I filled out my boxes in Pokemon White Version and I can fill out more!

Wooow thats like a looot of Pokemon xD I´m really excited about pokemon bank as well. up until now i was always too lazy to really try to "catch´em all", but since with pokebank we can store everything in a safe place and can even start a new game, i´m ready to give it a try and catch as many as i can!! Plus, 4,99 a year seems a relly reasonable price (:

dscottobrien1 October 9th, 2013 7:00 AM

Nintendo is being closed mouth on what the Pokebank checks for when storing pokemon, but as long as they aren't hacks, and are legit, I think it will store them

jazneo October 9th, 2013 7:10 AM

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Originally Posted by dscottobrien1 (Post 7873332)
Nintendo is being closed mouth on what the Pokebank checks for when storing pokemon, but as long as they aren't hacks, and are legit, I think it will store them

you can get all the pokemon with GTS just breed them to make new new id pokemon so the pokebank take them

KittenKoder October 9th, 2013 7:27 AM

I love the Pokebank idea .... because I thought of it a long time ago.

jazneo October 9th, 2013 11:52 AM

$4.99 a year. no one should be crying about the price for this. that cheaper then all mmorpg for servers. i know why they made it $5 so parent will pay for pokebank for there kids

jazneo October 9th, 2013 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7873821)
Most parents still won't pay for it regardless of the cost. There will be many young children that won't be able to transfer anything to the new games.

that what parents are for and anyone age 10 should know how to run a computer. i was on computer when i was 3 that was back 1989

jazneo October 9th, 2013 1:13 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7873855)
I just said "MOST PARENTS WILL NOT PAY FOR IT EVEN THOUGH ITS CHEAP."....So there WILL be a lot of children that will not get to use the Pokebank because their parents will not pay for it. Unless you have abnormally NICE parents. Majority of them will not pay for such a service. You will need a credit card to enable and pay for it and seeing as unless you are around the age of 16 you won't be able to get anything close. Most companies won't issue any kinda of pay card even the reloadable credit cards to anyone under the age of 18 (depends on location but 18 is the general acceptable age).

So there are going to be a lot of children that will not get to use this. Its not a matter of cost. Parents will just not see the point in wasting money in general for something like this. Others, if the child plays online games that have a cost, will force the kid to make a decision, pay for the online game that all their friends play on or pay for the yearly bank subscription.

I've passed the info to hundreds of parents and they've all said that they would not pay for their kid to use the Poke Bank. I work in a freaking toy store where my main job is to inform them of extra products for their toys to help push the sale of the toy. Every single parent responded the same way: They'd better get a job because they aren't using my card. Majority of the children belonging to these parents were below the age of 15 so that still wasn't even a chance of getting the Bank.

Those that HAVE a family that wants to spoil them will pay for it. The parents that will make their kids work for it MAY put their cards on there for that as well. Majority of the parents however will not do anything to get their kids the Pokebank subscription.


you dont need a credit card. you have Debit cards now and paypal. and there some parents who play the first pokemon game mostly like buy this. i bet some this people on this forums have kids

KittenKoder October 9th, 2013 2:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hiroshi Sotomura (Post 7873970)
Pokémon Stadium, Pokémon Stadium 2 and Pokémon Box allowed it a long time ago, too. Storing it online was only the next obvious step.



I'd steer clear of personal anecdotes as a claim if I were you. No doubt, demographics will vary across several markets.

By the way, I imagine Pokémon Bank will use the eShop to process its subscriptions. Meaning, a child could ostensibly purchase one of these to pay for their sub.

If it means anything, I know a handful of people who buy their kids iTunes and App Store gift cards. The reasons should be obvious—they want to be in full control of the content their children purchase. Ostensibly, there inevitably are parents who fully trust their children to make purchases.

I'd wager a lot of parents give their kids money to put in their eShop accounts all the time, otherwise, they'd have almost no games to play anyway. Just a two cents from someone with a lot of friends who are parents. I know a lot that spend almost $100 a month on iTunes and smartphone apps for their kids' tech. Parents these days are not as tech-phobic as they once were ... I mean .... the generation parents are from MADE the tech industry what it is today, we started making it all popular when we were in school so there would be more for us to play with after the next generation of geeks improved it. There use to be a saying, "if you want the VCR clock set, ask the kids to do it," that saying is obsolete now. If I had kids, I'd trust them to play any video game they so choose, so long as they work to earn the money from me for it somehow.

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7874001)
Its not much of a personal anecdote when you can ask and get the answer from complete strangers. Less so than assuming anyone can get it just because its affordable and you can get it.

As for the prepaid 3DS cards, that is assuming its through the 3DS system solely. If it isn't and requires outside registration, you'd have to make payments outside. While through the 3DS is an easier way to pay for it (the number of parents that pay for itunes cards and gaming cards still isn't more than those that wouldn't pay for them add to the fact that they now have to pay $20 minimum for a $5 feature.) there really wouldn't be any security on tracking payments and you'd be locked to using just that 3DS/2DS for all future interactions with that account. If you lose or sell the 3DS and have to get a new one then you'd likely not have access to your bank.

From what I've seen I am assuming the Pokebank is outside and associated with our Pokemon.com accounts...(possibly another hit against it as I've seen many parents not allow their kids to have accounts on Pokemon.com.) We'd then have to do paid subscriptions through our account which would then use the Game's internal code to link up to the service similar to how B/W/B2/W2 worked with the Dream World.

If through 3DS you stand to lose it all is you lose the system which isn't planned out very well for a Cloud service which is usually done outside of the initial system using it. Since its a cloud service I'd assume payments are made straight to it as well or to it through the main company. I'd imagine it would cost more if it had to piggyback through two vendors to get back to the main service.

$5 a year? I got $5 in change from the couch cushions per week when I was young .... in the 80s. Bums can get $5 from pennies on the ground, they do it all the time.

jazneo October 9th, 2013 2:35 PM

you mostly like see Pokemon Bank game card in walmart,shopko,gamestop

Dakotah October 9th, 2013 3:01 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7873883)
A Debit/Credit runs through the same systems. To have a Debit Card you need a Bank account to which you need to be at least 16 years of age (Going by my local bank laws). Since the youngest age you can legally work for is 16. Anyone under this age restriction cannot have a Debit Card. Same thing for Paypal. There are credit checks for Paypal last time I signed up for one and I was required to link a Bank account/Debit/Credit Card to it. I didn't have any of those so I didn't get a Paypal.

Parents STILL WILL NOT PAY FOR THE SERVICES. It doesn't matter what services are available to pay for it. If they need Parental acceptance to get those services, then the kid is out of luck. Any normal parent will not pay for the Pokemon Bank.

Parents will not pay for it. A child under the legal age to hold a card or method of online payment is **** out of luck.

You don't know this. You are basing this based on your own beliefs and experiences, but they are yours only. I think you should refrain from being so cynical about this. Most of the parents I've talked to are more than happy to do something for their children that'll a) make their kids happy, and b) keep them out of trouble. Most parents that I talk to not only know their children play these games but support their choice of games. They're always the first ones in line whenever a new game comes out. If they're willing, and eager even, to fork out the money for the game, I seriously doubt they'd refuse to pay for this service. And I work in a huge retail store that sees hundreds of people per day (Wal-Mart) You CAN'T speak to any parents other than your own and yourself (if you are one). I bet you most parents would surprise you. And as for having a debit card and a job, I had both before I even reached puberty! Unless, of course, it's your claim that delivering a newspaper as an employee of a news company and receiving a bi-weekly pay cheque doesn't count as a job, and of course, those cheques I received didn't go into my bank account even though I used my debit card to make the deposits.

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7874031)
On a different note. I see the price for this going up slightly in the future.

So will the price on pretty much everything else. That's just the nature of things. The price of bread will go up. The price of milk will go up. The price of gas will go up. Your electricity bill will go up. Prices have been going up since the barter system was put into place. You're not exactly saying anything shocking you know.

KittenKoder October 9th, 2013 3:21 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7874031)
And just 2 cents from someone who works retail and has to keep track of these things, Parents really do not pay for a lot of this. First questions we get asked by parents "Do we have to put our ......

Clipped for space.

Wow ... um .... you are ignoring a ton of excellent points just to gripe about a $5 per year subscription fee for something that has (most likely) multiple ways to pay for it. Not to mention you are applying retail customer logic to digital customer habits, that's like comparing a lemon to an orange. Sure, most parents are way too busy with their lives to run to the store for every little thing their kids want, but parents spending money to buy video games for their kids is what made the industry as big as it is today. Until the 1990s, only kids played video games, because people were idiots and thought they were just for kids, like they also use to think cartoons were just for kids .... until anime became popular. I have this odd feeling that your problem is not the money, or whether kids will be capable of somehow getting $5 together, but that you are attempting to resist living in the future, tech-phobia is so 1970s, join us in today, please, I mean ... please. I expect this kind of buggery from someone twice my age with no life, watching television on an old black and white CRT set with bunny ears, not a pokefan who plays 3DS games. So here it is again, itemized:

1. 5 USD is a drop in the ocean, literally, you could find that much on the ground just by watching where you are going and picking up pennies.

2. Gift cards from game stores can be purchased with cash, no card needed to buy the card.

3. Parents love games like Pokemon for their kids, keeps them busy during times when they need to concentrate most, like when driving, they'll be more than happy to pay 5 USD for that kind of safety.

4. Kids can still mow lawns, and other various non-business jobs, in the US. They can't make getting paid for chores illegal, because that would, itself, be illegal.

5. Prepaid credit cards do not require a bank account, you can buy and load them in a ton of stores and there is no age limit in any country.

6. It's the future, get use to it or stay behind, but griping about it won't stop the rest of our species from moving forward.

Sorry, but any form of anti-tech or anti-future griping almost ruffles my fur, if I had any fur to ruffle.

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Originally Posted by jazneo (Post 7874012)
you mostly like see Pokemon Bank game card in walmart,shopko,gamestop

Unless they use the eShop, that's very probable.

Dakotah October 9th, 2013 3:33 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7874091)
It is affordable but it does not mean everyone will be able to get it.

That's more accurate. Far more accurate than your generalized claim that "parents won't get it for their kids." I really dislike generalized statements, mostly because they're statements that have no basis in fact. They're the product of a personal point of view, not verifiable fact. But I would further clarify your statement to read: "It's affordable, but it does not mean everyone will be able to, or want to, get it."

KittenKoder October 9th, 2013 3:44 PM

Well, based on actual statistics, you're wrong, XanderO:

How much teens spend.
http://www.statisticbrain.com/teenage-consumer-spending-statistics/

Yes, that's for everything they buy online, not just games ... but that's a huge market, a massive market, and a lot more money than most physical markets get. But that's not the kicker, this is, and I quote from the page:

Average annual income of a 12-14 year old $2,167

Once more, then I will drop out of this particular line of discussion on this topic:

http://www.marketingsherpa.com/article/how-to/data-spending-habits-dos-donts

A few quotes from the statistics:

77% [of the funds] are gifts from people other than parents/guardians
82% [is spent] on video games, music, movies, books, videos/DVDs, virtual worlds, etc.
82% [of their visits online are] entertainment/media sites

That's for "tweens," you know, kids.

KittenKoder October 9th, 2013 4:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Hiroshi Sotomura (Post 7874178)
December 27 is a long, long time I'd have to play without my beloved Swampert.

I know, right? That's my only complaint about it, the extra wait. I have so many pokemon I can't wait to transfer over, and pokerus! Wish I could get that from the beginning, but I have it on two games now, I must be really lucky. lol

xcalibersam October 18th, 2013 2:02 AM

hi guys im new to the site so i dont know if this is the right forum but i really would love any help regarding my issue, back when i played emerald (when it first came out) i was a child and had all the time in the world to catch myself a shiny rayquaza, it is something im proud of but when i was also quite silly as a child i let my friend boost the stats on it. i digress due to the anti cheating system will my rayquaza be unable to trade? it is in a amaster ball from hoenn and it has stats as follows, 414 hp, 399 att, 251 def, 438 sp att, 279 sp def and 289 speed. once again any help would be great :)

Adryel October 18th, 2013 2:35 AM

you know even if the parents doesn't let them use their credit cards
their still some e-shop cards
It's almost rare to see some kids that don't have at least 5$ on their savings

xcalibersam October 18th, 2013 2:23 PM

youre right, im not proud of it by any means and i would love to return it to base stats and retrain it myself, i just don't want to go through the exhausting process of catching the shiny again :S thanks for help i suppose i will just have to see :p

Princess Diana October 18th, 2013 2:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Hiroshi Sotomura (Post 7874178)
December 27 is a long, long time I'd have to play without my beloved Swampert.

D'ya think they're trying to capitalize on the Christmas sales?

mewman October 18th, 2013 7:10 PM

i wonder what will happen with a light shiny wishmaker jirachi

mewman October 19th, 2013 7:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hiroshi Sotomura (Post 7890597)
I imagine that you'll run into problems if you can't legitimately get a shiny Wishmaker Jirachi.

you can but for some reason Nintendo block it online because they think you cant get one.

Water Gym Leader October 20th, 2013 6:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mewman (Post 7890930)
you can but for some reason Nintendo block it online because they think you cant get one.

Nintendo believes that they added coding to the Wishmaker Jirachi so it can't be shiny, but they never did, so they classify Jirachi as one of those Pokemon who is never shiny and a shiny one is hacked.

Aeroblast October 20th, 2013 6:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Water Gym Leader (Post 7891672)
Nintendo believes that they added coding to the Wishmaker Jirachi so it can't be shiny, but they never did, so they classify Jirachi as one of those Pokemon who is never shiny and a shiny one is hacked.

Well that's a big problem, I have one that's sitting in my box in HeartGold.

I'm assuming same goes for the Japanese faraway island Mew. Not sure if Celebi can be shiny at all. (I'm talking about the Japanese Colosseum bonus disk)

mewman October 20th, 2013 1:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattle (Post 7891678)
Well that's a big problem, I have one that's sitting in my box in HeartGold.

I'm assuming same goes for the Japanese faraway island Mew. Not sure if Celebi can be shiny at all. (I'm talking about the Japanese Colosseum bonus disk)

hope we can transfer him to x and y. i want to use him in online battles now since we can use legendary Pokemon now.

Water Gym Leader October 20th, 2013 1:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattle (Post 7891678)
Well that's a big problem, I have one that's sitting in my box in HeartGold.

I'm assuming same goes for the Japanese faraway island Mew. Not sure if Celebi can be shiny at all. (I'm talking about the Japanese Colosseum bonus disk)

Celebi Arceus Victini Reshiram Zekrom Keldeo and Meloetta cannot be shiny legitimately and Jirachi can't be because Nintendo said so.


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