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OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 5th, 2013 5:19 PM

I lost a game (Fr) so keeping them somewhere like a cloud would be nice. However I'm also worried about people possibly hacking PokéBank...so I'm not sure where I'll store my favorites

Astinus September 5th, 2013 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MrGriszell (Post 7819384)
so what to prevent someone to bring in a level 100 pokemon as soon as they buy the game sometime in 2014?

Badge check system that's already in the game? It seems unlikely that they would remove the badge level limitations on traded Pokemon, and since the OT and number won't match on the Pokemon transferred to X/Y, it won't "obey the trainer" because the player doesn't have the right amount of badges.

As for the threat of hacking, it seems funny that a hacker would spend their time to enter Nintendo's data base to steal some young kid's Pokemon (when there are already easier ways to hack Pokemon). But even if a hacker gets into the storage data, it's not like Nintendo won't have back-ups of everything, so they can easily restore anything lost.

MarioManH September 6th, 2013 2:33 AM

I'm happy about this since it blocks out "cheated" Pokemon! Hack checking ftw!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 6th, 2013 7:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MarioManH (Post 7820068)
I'm happy about this since it blocks out "cheated" Pokemon! Hack checking ftw!

Me too, I detest "cheat" Pokemon with a passion, so knowing that last generation's will mostly (if not all) won't be coming back is nice to see :).

However I wonder if it'll also block those hacked in generation IV, especially those that date as far back as Gen III or if those will pass without notice...hope not.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 6th, 2013 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7820310)
It can if its the same program that banned players using hacked Pokemon in the last Wi-Fi Tournament. I know I can't use three pokemon I got from friends because they were 4th and 3rd gen hacks when using them on Black and White. Couldn't use them even while they were in my battle box and everything.

That's great to hear :D! Now all three previous generations of hacks will be gone now :3

iRyahn September 6th, 2013 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MarioManH (Post 7820068)
I'm happy about this since it blocks out "cheated" Pokemon! Hack checking ftw!

I'm happy about his too, but sadly there are still 'legit' ways of hacking. For example RNG. I don't consider that crap legit (since you are still using a third party program to better yourself in the game) but the bank check will not recognize it as a hacked Pokemon sadly.

DamienHelvian September 6th, 2013 1:15 PM

They must've improved on the Checksum system from the older gens.
I know they started it with hacked breeding, cause a failed checksum produces a bad egg....
I wonder how much difference there is in the new system.
And I wonder how long it will take, before someone figures out the right Checksum and manages to make a perfect hack.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 6th, 2013 3:33 PM

I don't think they ever will...at least not this generation as the 3DS has updates which are meant to combat hacking and these updates apply to games too, not just the system, so when someone get's close they'll proably change the goal post and so on.

DamienHelvian September 6th, 2013 3:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7820864)
I don't think they ever will...at least not this generation as the 3DS has updates which are meant to combat hacking and these updates apply to games too, not just the system, so when someone get's close they'll proably change the goal post and so on.

You do understand that means, every time someone cracks the checksum, they'll have to completely rewrite it, right? That's a very tedious process, and they'll have to do that, for every single new game.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 6th, 2013 5:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DamienHelvian (Post 7820870)
You do understand that means, every time someone cracks the checksum, they'll have to completely rewrite it, right? That's a very tedious process, and they'll have to do that, for every single new game.

Well they're already doing it...with the system, so what's changing one game's code? besides they don't have to rewrite all of it, they can change enough to trip it, and then change it again...I like the idea of trolling with hackers :3

JayTheKing September 7th, 2013 2:37 AM

I wanted to ask:I have a Keldeo which has a special ribbon and therefore cant be offered for trade on the GTS.I will be able to transfer it right?

Sneaky Truth September 7th, 2013 2:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JayTheKing (Post 7821601)
I wanted to ask:I have a Keldeo which has a special ribbon and therefore cant be offered for trade on the GTS.I will be able to transfer it right?

Yes, you'll be able to bank any pokemon, regardless if it was received by event.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 7th, 2013 9:14 AM

The ribbons only prevent trades, not transfers so you should be able to send it over to Kalos when the time comes as Sneaky said :3

Rengoku September 7th, 2013 9:39 AM

Saying hi to Magmaruby~

On the other side I hope they can reconsider being able to transfer from HGSS too... It is such a hassle moving the Pokemon over to BW x.x

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 7th, 2013 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Rilence (Post 7822006)
Saying hi to Magmaruby~

On the other side I hope they can reconsider being able to transfer from HGSS too... It is such a hassle moving the Pokemon over to BW x.x

It sure is a hassle, sadly I don't think they'll allow us to transfer from Gen 4 to Gen 6 :(.

Guy September 7th, 2013 12:29 PM

I just realized how much less of a hassle starting a new file will be thanks to the PokéBank. I can just store whatever Pokémon I want to keep from the previous game file into the bank instead of having to do all that tedious trading. Finally.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 7th, 2013 1:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Artemis (Post 7822242)
I just realized how much less of a hassle starting a new file will be thanks to the PokéBank. I can just store whatever Pokémon I want to keep from the previous game file into the bank instead of having to do all that tedious trading. Finally.

Yeah, even those like me who don't restart the game as they don't want to lose their precious Pokémon and don't have somewhere to trade to can now reset their games as we can store them into Pokebank :3

Astinus September 7th, 2013 8:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Artemis (Post 7822242)
I just realized how much less of a hassle starting a new file will be thanks to the PokéBank. I can just store whatever Pokémon I want to keep from the previous game file into the bank instead of having to do all that tedious trading. Finally.

We finally have some option of "multiple save files" like some people have been asking for. Aside from not needing to by another 3DS and a copy of X, this was another reason why I'm excited over Pokemon Bank. I've stopped myself from restarting games because there are a few Pokemon that I want to keep, but it's a hassle to trade them around from game-to-game. With Pokemon Bank, whenever I want to try something different in Y, I can just load any Pokemon I want to keep and have them there waiting for me without any trouble.

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On the other side I hope they can reconsider being able to transfer from HGSS too... It is such a hassle moving the Pokemon over to BW x.x
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It sure is a hassle
I must be the only one who didn't mind the minigame to transfer from Gen 4 to Gen 5.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 7th, 2013 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Astinus (Post 7822799)
We finally have some option of "multiple save files" like some people have been asking for. Aside from not needing to by another 3DS and a copy of X, this was another reason why I'm excited over Pokemon Bank. I've stopped myself from restarting games because there are a few Pokemon that I want to keep, but it's a hassle to trade them around from game-to-game. With Pokemon Bank, whenever I want to try something different in Y, I can just load any Pokemon I want to keep and have them there waiting for me without any trouble.



I must be the only one who didn't mind the minigame to transfer from Gen 4 to Gen 5.

The mini game was fine at first, but it got tiring after awhile...at least it allowed us to transfer an unlimited amount in a day unlike the transfer from Gen III to Gen IV.
Btw there's no limit to how long we can transfer our Pokémon correct? Or at least not one that's been established?

FlamingRage September 8th, 2013 8:24 AM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7820310)
It can if its the same program that banned players using hacked Pokemon in the last Wi-Fi Tournament. I know I can't use three pokemon I got from friends because they were 4th and 3rd gen hacks when using them on Black and White. Couldn't use them even while they were in my battle box and everything.

I'm not counting on this new hack check to stop hacks. I'll probably get a lot of hate for this, but since mid 2012, I've been playing in all the wifi tournaments with legal hacks and only got excluded from the rankings twice because of ragequitters. Of course it will probably stop the n00b hackers, anyone that knows how to get the right PID can probably continue to cheat.

The only way I would think they could get rid of them is if the unused bytes actually are used and we just didn't know.


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Originally Posted by Astinus (Post 7822799)
I must be the only one who didn't mind the minigame to transfer from Gen 4 to Gen 5.

I actually enjoyed it for a while. But transfering twice could take a while and I'll eventually want to play though my gen 5 games again without cutting off kalos from my sinnoh pokemon.

Aeroblast September 8th, 2013 10:17 AM

Minigame at first wasn't so bad, but when you're doing a mass transfer from Gen IV to V it gets very tiring after couple games.

MrGriszell September 8th, 2013 2:33 PM

My only thing is , that ill most likely have my special pokemon in game so if anything ever happens I guess my pokemon are still gone. But this is better than nothing. I hope they have a feature that lets you back up your save file as well

GeckoPutt September 8th, 2013 4:52 PM

I'm of two minds about Pokémon Bank.

Positives:
  • It's amazing how we are able to transfer our hard-earned Pokémon from previous generations to our new 3DS games. Pokémon that we spent hours searching for, then levelling up, and training for certain moves we are now able to use in full 3D.
  • It makes the whole process of transferring A LOT easier. We no longer have to spend ages transferring one Pokémon at a time; not to mention the fact that we can upload as many Pokémon at one time.
  • Longevity. We are now able to keep any Pokémon we catch and use them in any future Pokémon game that comes up. We are now able to use the same Pokémon throughout multiple generations with some much ease - finally being able to have that true connection that Nintendo are yearning us to have with them.

Negatives:
  • The annual fee. Whilst I understand why they are using it, I feel a little overwhelmed at the fact that I now have to pay to use a service that has been a staple of the series since Generation III. The only solace to this is the fact that we have a free trial when it first comes out so that those that want to transfer their Pokémon quickly before the trial ends, they are able to.
  • Hacked Pokémon. Whilst the official Pokémon website has said posted a note about hacked Pokémon as shown here:
    http://i.imgur.com/ewym8ru.png
    There will almost certainly be some that get through somehow. Not to mention that you will have the option to equip hacked items such as Masterballs and Rare Candies to these Pokémon in the Pokémon Bank which makes it easier to catch the legendaries and harder-to-catch Pokémon. The challenge won't be there any more.

Overall, I think it's a good feature that needed to be introduced, it's just a shame that hacked Pokémon will no do doubt get through.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 8th, 2013 8:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GeckoPutt (Post 7823893)
I'm of two minds about Pokémon Bank.


Positives:
  • It's amazing how we are able to transfer our hard-earned Pokémon from previous generations to our new 3DS games. Pokémon that we spent hours searching for, then levelling up, and training for certain moves we are now able to use in full 3D.
  • It makes the whole process of transferring A LOT easier. We no longer have to spend ages transferring one Pokémon at a time; not to mention the fact that we can upload as many Pokémon at one time.
  • Longevity. We are now able to keep any Pokémon we catch and use them in any future Pokémon game that comes up. We are now able to use the same Pokémon throughout multiple generations with some much ease - finally being able to have that true connection that Nintendo are yearning us to have with them.

Negatives:
  • The annual fee. Whilst I understand why they are using it, I feel a little overwhelmed at the fact that I now have to pay to use a service that has been a staple of the series since Generation III. The only solace to this is the fact that we have a free trial when it first comes out so that those that want to transfer their Pokémon quickly before the trial ends, they are able to.
  • Hacked Pokémon. Whilst the official Pokémon website has said posted a note about hacked Pokémon as shown here:
    http://i.imgur.com/ewym8ru.png
    There will almost certainly be some that get through somehow. Not to mention that you will have the option to equip hacked items such as Masterballs and Rare Candies to these Pokémon in the Pokémon Bank which makes it easier to catch the legendaries and harder-to-catch Pokémon. The challenge won't be there any more.
Overall, I think it's a good feature that needed to be introduced, it's just a shame that hacked Pokémon will no do doubt get through.

At least they're trying to prevent them from coming over to this generation. The last two transfers didn't do anything if I recall correctly to stop them from coming through.

DamienHelvian September 9th, 2013 1:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeckoPutt (Post 7823893)
I'm of two minds about Pokémon Bank.

Positives:
  • It's amazing how we are able to transfer our hard-earned Pokémon from previous generations to our new 3DS games. Pokémon that we spent hours searching for, then levelling up, and training for certain moves we are now able to use in full 3D.
  • It makes the whole process of transferring A LOT easier. We no longer have to spend ages transferring one Pokémon at a time; not to mention the fact that we can upload as many Pokémon at one time.
  • Longevity. We are now able to keep any Pokémon we catch and use them in any future Pokémon game that comes up. We are now able to use the same Pokémon throughout multiple generations with some much ease - finally being able to have that true connection that Nintendo are yearning us to have with them.

Negatives:
  • The annual fee. Whilst I understand why they are using it, I feel a little overwhelmed at the fact that I now have to pay to use a service that has been a staple of the series since Generation III. The only solace to this is the fact that we have a free trial when it first comes out so that those that want to transfer their Pokémon quickly before the trial ends, they are able to.
  • Hacked Pokémon. Whilst the official Pokémon website has said posted a note about hacked Pokémon as shown here:
    http://i.imgur.com/ewym8ru.png
    There will almost certainly be some that get through somehow. Not to mention that you will have the option to equip hacked items such as Masterballs and Rare Candies to these Pokémon in the Pokémon Bank which makes it easier to catch the legendaries and harder-to-catch Pokémon. The challenge won't be there any more.

Overall, I think it's a good feature that needed to be introduced, it's just a shame that hacked Pokémon will no do doubt get through.

There is one thing I'd like to point out, that is a possibility.
Action Replay, actually works WITH Nintendo, to make sure everything is perfectly compatible. So I'm thinking, what if things used through AR are considered authorized? That could still be a way of getting what you want and avoiding the blockade.


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