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hiff8 September 11th, 2013 2:36 PM

Sky Battles
 
Sky battles are a new type of battle being introduced in X and Y, they include Flying types and those who use Levitate.

http://media-cerulean.cursecdn.com/attachments/thumbnails/5/11/530/530/sky_battle_1.jpg

How do you feel about sky battles, do you have any ideas about factors in sky battles that are different?

Do you think it will be purely restricted to flying and levitating, or will there be other ways to participate with other pokemon that appear that they can fly or can learn fly (Such as Golurk)

And more importantly...what about Gyarados, he is a flying and water type, but it sure would be weird to see him in the sky, will be allowed to fight in these battles?

Hiatus September 11th, 2013 4:44 PM

All Pokémon that have the Levitate ability should be able to participate in sky battles, and so should the ones that are able to learn Fly. I think sky battles will limit you from using ground-type and rock-type moves, since it just wouldn't make sense to use them here. Personally, I'd like to see them introduce some sort of an item that can enable any Pokémon to participate in these battles when they're holding it, such as a jet pack or maybe even rocket boots. xD

hiff8 September 11th, 2013 4:47 PM

There is the balloon, but that pops in one hit.

SmashBrony September 11th, 2013 4:51 PM

I like the idea of sky battles... (for obivious reasons...)

I do wonder if they'll inculde pokemon holding an Air Balloon...
But unless Air Balloons become unbreakable in Sky Battles, that'd be pointless...

& as for Gyarados, it should FINALLY put it's Flying-typing to a use.
(It has Bounce, which I understand is ACTUALLY used in competitive battling,
but I think being able to fight in Sky Battles will still be a better use of being "Flying".)

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@ Perdition Haze:
Pfft... since when does "sense" matters in the world of Pokemon?
Does any of these make sense?:

Wailord and Skitty breeding

Doduo & Dodrio flying when their pokedex entries SPECIALLY said that they CAN'T fly.

Scyther uses it's scythe-like arms a LOT, but nevers actually cuts it's foe what-so-ever.
(At least, not from what I've seen...)

I could go on & on, but these should be enough to prove my point...

By the way, the "let's fly together" theme you made is AWESOME!!!

hiff8 September 11th, 2013 4:52 PM

I still think it'd be weird, he'd just be floating

SmashBrony September 11th, 2013 5:03 PM

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Originally Posted by hiff8 (Post 7828827)
I still think it'd be weird, he'd just be floating

Perhaps it "swims" though the sky? or does something similar to Drifblim?

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Actually, "swimming" though the sky makes more sense to me, not that sense matters in the world of Pokemon...

hiff8 September 11th, 2013 5:12 PM

I guess he has a similar shape to Rayquaza, who also doesn't really have wings

Azire September 11th, 2013 5:20 PM

My thoughts go to weather in Sky Battles. We have been notified of a weather summoner, Mega Charizard. With the ability Drought it can summon permanent sun and it keeps it's secondary Flying type. Now I'm curious as to whether the other weathers will get the same respect or not. Also how useful will this actually be. Will teams be built around battling Mega Charizard or carry Pokemon that have the weather skills.

ANinyMouse September 11th, 2013 6:38 PM

I made this to show all the old Pokemon I think will be able to participate. I think it took me a couple hours... but I had fun!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v153/ANinyMouse/skybattle_zpsc3884ecd.png

Notes:
*Mistakes:
--Forgot to add Togekiss ><

*Pokemon I DID NOT include:
--Natu: supposedly can't fly
--Mantyke & Mantine: purely because it doesn't feel right
--Doduo & Dodrio: yup
--Dunsparce: can only flutter around briefly
--Cottonee & Whimsicott: Haven't seen them flying much
--Archen: mostly jumps around

*Pokemon I DID include:
--Heracross: he can fly, canonically
--select Psychic-types: shown levitating almost always
--select "magnetic" Pokemon: shown levitating almost always
--Gyarados: snake dragons can fly
--select "mysical" Pokemon: often seen floating around
--Porygon: inexplicably flies around
--select Bug-types: they fly, of course
--select Ghost-types: the ones that levitate without the ability
--Castform: he obviously flies
--Kricketune: same as Heracross
--Arceus: he can do pretty much everything
--Golurk: PURE AWESOME
--Unova legendaries: they fly, oddly enough

Xander Olivieri September 11th, 2013 7:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ANinyMouse (Post 7828965)
Spoiler:
I made this to show all the old Pokemon I think will be able to participate. I think it took me a couple hours... but I had fun!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v153/ANinyMouse/skybattle_zpsc3884ecd.png

Notes:
*Mistakes:
--Forgot to add Togekiss ><

*Pokemon I DID NOT include:
--Natu: supposedly can't fly
--Mantyke & Mantine: purely because it doesn't feel right
--Doduo & Dodrio: yup
--Dunsparce: can only flutter around briefly
--Cottonee & Whimsicott: Haven't seen them flying much
--Archen: mostly jumps around

*Pokemon I DID include:
--Heracross: he can fly, canonically
--select Psychic-types: shown levitating almost always
--select "magnetic" Pokemon: shown levitating almost always
--Gyarados: snake dragons can fly
--select "mysical" Pokemon: often seen floating around
--Porygon: inexplicably flies around
--select Bug-types: they fly, of course
--select Ghost-types: the ones that levitate without the ability
--Castform: he obviously flies
--Kricketune: same as Heracross
--Arceus: he can do pretty much everything
--Golurk: PURE AWESOME
--Unova legendaries: they fly, oddly enough

If you did this to see who can participate, they have already stated that only Flying Type Pokemon and Pokemon with Levitate can be used in Sky Battles. If they don't fit either criteria then they can't participate. A Pokemon shown with the ability to fly (Through HM) most likely won't be able to enter even though they can fly. Also Anime plays little to no part in involvement with Game Mechanics so just cause they can fly in the anime doesn't mean they'll be included.

Only those that are Flying Type or have the ability Levitate are able to enter.

MantisboyN September 11th, 2013 7:33 PM

So are they planning on doing surfing battles or dive battles, then? Because that's the next logical step.

Xander Olivieri September 11th, 2013 7:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MantisboyN (Post 7829036)
So are they planning on doing surfing battles or dive battles, then? Because that's the next logical step.

Seriously doubt it since we've had Surfing battles since Gen 1 and changing that now would be pointless...we also had unhindered Dive battles in Gen 3 so I don't see them changing that either. Both are somewhat mandatory in their respective playthroughs so limiting what can battle on them prevents you from moving forward as if the only thing capable of participating faints you lose and start back from square one.

ANinyMouse September 11th, 2013 8:17 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7829026)
If you did this to see who can participate, they have already stated that only Flying Type Pokemon and Pokemon with Levitate can be used in Sky Battles. If they don't fit either criteria then they can't participate. A Pokemon shown with the ability to fly (Through HM) most likely won't be able to enter even though they can fly. Also Anime plays little to no part in involvement with Game Mechanics so just cause they can fly in the anime doesn't mean they'll be included.

Only those that are Flying Type or have the ability Levitate are able to enter.

Actually, bubba, they said there were "some exceptions." Deal with it.

Xander Olivieri September 11th, 2013 9:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ANinyMouse (Post 7829085)
Actually, bubba, they said there were "some exceptions." Deal with it.

Some exceptions to the two specific listed. Not all Flying Types and Levitators can participate, but last it was said Only those two specifics were allowed in. In the old thread I was in support of others as well, but since then its been made clearer as when first announced they said some Pokemon can participate. Upon release of official info, they said Flying and Levitators only.

Its currently stated that only Flying and Levitating Pokemon can participate. All screen shots shown fit this as well.

Bulbapedia is currently keeping the info as up to date, and it still only lists the currently known restrictions.

I don't really seem Gamefreak going out of their way to add in extra Pokemon onto the list either. They're most likely to keep it with the two restrictions placed.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 11th, 2013 10:04 PM

I know it's rumored that not all flying types and levitators maybe able to participate but if they all were there's quite a lot of diversity with 84 flying types (counting formes of Shaymin and Rotom) and aproximately 35 pokemon with levitate (36 if one counts Fan Rotom). Best of all that's not even counting the new Gen VI flying types so there's bound to be a lot more.

Satoshi Ookami September 11th, 2013 11:57 PM

Hopefully there won't be many of them... I don't want to catch flying type of Levitate user unless they will fit my team...
On the other hand I don't want to waste precious exps =)

Decimosoma September 12th, 2013 3:09 AM

Here is a list with a few Pokémons that can't learn Fly:

Butterfree
Scyther
Gyarados
Hoppip
Skiploom
Jumpfluff
Gligar
Gliscor
Beautifly
Masquerain
Ninjask
Mothim
Combee
Vespiquen
Drifloon
Drifblim
Chatot
Yanma
Yanmega
Mantyke
Mantine
Shaymin (Sky form)
Rotom (Fly form)
Emolga

Despite being a flying-type doesn't mean you can be a turboblazer and take off into the clouds like a high-speed jet, some flying-type Pokémons have limits of how far they can get in the Sky. (Unless you're Wilbur's Pidgey which no flying-type stand a chance against! Just kidding.) I believe none of them will be able to participate in Sky battles unless they get the Levitate ability or get little update in XY where some of them can learn Fly. In my opinion Sky battles should only be available for pure Flying-type Pokémons who are most of the time in the skies.

Queen September 12th, 2013 4:08 AM

I believe sky battles merely add variety in battles, it is a nice addition!

hiff8 September 12th, 2013 11:58 AM

[QUOTE=ANinyMouse;7828965]I made this to show all the old Pokemon I think will be able to participate. I think it took me a couple hours... but I had fun!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v153/ANinyMouse/skybattle_zpsc3884ecd.png

This is Great! I can see this being put on Serrebi, but I can't see Genisect up there...he as no wings, I feel that bug types are an odd addition, How would Joltik get up in the sky?

ANinyMouse September 12th, 2013 2:35 PM

Joltic isn't on my list.







Genesect learns Fly and flies around the entire time in the Genesect Movie. I didn't say all Bug-types, just the ones that fly around.



Well, to be honest, if the qualifier for participation is Flying-type or Levitate only... and we all know not all the Flying-types are gonna make it in... That's kind of a small pool to pull from. But if that's how GameFreak is gonna do it, it sounds like it's not going to be as much fun as I had hoped. When I heard there were exceptions, I assumed that meant outlier that could participate, not just even greater exclusivity.

SmashBrony September 12th, 2013 7:22 PM

I feel that ALL Flying-types & Levitators will be able to particate in Sky Battles,
No matter how silly it may look.

@ hiff8:
OH!!!
I actually forgot all about Rayquaza...
If I had remembered, I would have said that Gyarados would fly in the same way as Rayquaza...
(there's a reason why xxkaylabby keeps calling me "silly"...)

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I would like to know how people "know" that not all Flying-types will make it into
Sky Battles... did I somehow miss something?

Xander Olivieri September 12th, 2013 8:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stoney the Togekiss (Post 7830476)
I feel that ALL Flying-types & Levitators will be able to particate in Sky Battles,
No matter how silly it may look.

@ hiff8:
OH!!!
I actually forgot all about Rayquaza...
If I had remembered, I would have said that Gyarados would fly in the same way as Rayquaza...
(there's a reason why xxkaylabby keeps calling me "silly"...)

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I would like to know how people "know" that not all Flying-types will make it into
Sky Battles... did I somehow miss something?

During the E3 reveal, Gamefreak members said "Some Flying and Levitating Pokemon will be able to participate". It has yet to appear officially with the word "Some", but when it was introduced they dropped the bomb on us saying that there's the possibility that not all of them can, but those were the only two criteria for participation.

Darkroman September 13th, 2013 8:42 AM

I honestly don't see what's so exciting about sky battles, or maybe I'm just missing something. To me, all it seems like is just another trainer battle but with restrictions and background change. Is there any special reward out of it?

Xander Olivieri September 13th, 2013 9:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Darkroman (Post 7831140)
I honestly don't see what's so exciting about sky battles, or maybe I'm just missing something. To me, all it seems like is just another trainer battle but with restrictions and background change. Is there any special reward out of it?

I think you get more money out of it than normal, but other than that, like every battle before it its just a battle. No special prizes are earned.

xseed September 13th, 2013 4:49 PM

I am so and so with sky battle. nothing intereesting but its a nice little feature. (wish their was underwater and underground battles) (well dive covers the underwater battles lmao)


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