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Somniac December 20th, 2013 7:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dakota (Post 7996340)
Ahaha, amen to that! How much on average does one spend on gas per month, anyway? I'm trying to figure out if it's more or less expensive than spending 5 dollars (minimum) daily for a round trip.

It'll be entirely different for me than you. UK fuel prices are far far more than USA ones.

UK: £5.96 per gallon (That's $9.74)
US: $3.20 per gallon (Accuracy check anyone?)

Most small cars average 35-40 miles on a gallon of fuel.
My bike does over 60 from my calculations.


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Originally Posted by CC (Post 7996348)
I spend about 35 a week for gas and that's just me...

I am so so so envious.
Mines around 30GBP, which is like $50.

Mark Kamill December 20th, 2013 7:34 AM

Ah 2 jobs, but still that's a grand each, sounds nice. And yeah, I'm unemployed now. Not exactly surprising, worst European economy will do that.

donavannj December 20th, 2013 7:51 AM

But that doesn't factor in the fact that with owning a car you have to pay maintenance costs and insurance.

My monthly insurance average with comprehensive coverage is about $65 (although I only pay a lump sum every 6 months). My weekly gas would be about $35-$40 (depending on the price of fuel and the fuel I choose to use - if it's summer, I'll chose E85, which with the subsidies that bring its price down, I've paid as little as $25 to put 8 gallons of E85 in the summer, though E85 is not a good cold weather fuel as it's managed to gum up the fuel filters on the cars we have that can use it, so we put in unleaded from late October to mid-April), but I average only about 200 miles a week. My brother averages about 400 miles a week, filling up his 20 gallon minivan tank twice a week at between $120 and $140 a week.

Then there's oil changes every 3 months/3000-4000 miles that cost $30 without coupons and between $10 and $20 with coupons. And with my older car I have an average of $200 to $400 worth of work every 3 months or so. If I were a gearhead it'd probably average out to that still, but I'd probably have been able to notice more wrong with it and diagnose more myself and have fixed it. And then every 3 to 5 years (depending on the length of the battery's warranty) you have to replace your battery or you'll have issues where your car may not start because the battery is dead and won't hold a charge. And tires need to be changed every few years, which gets expensive. For instance, on my car, it'd probably be $300 to $400 for new tires, while on my brother's minivan (which needs them now) it'd run us $400 at our preferred shop (which is preferred for us because they don't charge exorbitant fees for labor and parts), and larger tires for larger vehicles could easily climb up near and over $1000.

When you buy a car, you also are taking a gamble on whether it'll have any issues. Often, many people will sell their car rather than fix the problem if there's something they've encountered, so you'd want to ask if you can have a shop look at the car to see if there are any major issues. If they don't let you, they're probably trying to hide some major problem the car has. If the deal sounds too good to be true, it probably is. My car has kind of been a lemon since I bought it. I've sunk around $4500 worth of work into my car (one I bought for about $2800) since I bought it a year and a half ago. Although a large chunk of that went into the cooling system within the first 3 months ($500 for a water pump, $1500 for a leaking and damaged head gasket, plus another $300 or so for other work I figured was worth having since I was probably going to be without it for over a week anyway. And then there were the labor charges).

tl;dr: A car is expensive to own

Aeroblast December 20th, 2013 7:54 AM

Speaking of which, another $517 down the drain for winter PE session in my university. That's more than a price of Playstation, just for 6 3hr sessions of table tennis. **** me.

Tsutarja December 20th, 2013 8:43 AM

Is PE mandatory at your university? I know someone who had to take PE classes when they were a senior in college, but they were also enrolled in a liberal arts university.

Aeroblast December 20th, 2013 8:58 AM

Yes, it's mandatory to fill 2 PE courses. I just thought to take them in winter or summer because otherwise I have nothing to do over the break.

Sheep December 20th, 2013 9:02 AM

PE was mandatory in my uni too, though it was only one credit and was mostly just a health/discussion course. It was awful.. I honestly think they need to make it worth more credits and put more, you know, physical activity into the course. :(

Tsutarja December 20th, 2013 9:53 AM

Yeah, I'd rather do more physical activity than learning when it comes to PE.. in elementary and middle school, PE was just all working out without lectures and tests.. but in high school, the mandatory PE class we had to take was a combination of working out and taking notes.

Kanzler December 20th, 2013 9:55 AM

Why is PE mandatory even in University? For me I only had to do it until Grade 9.

Aeroblast December 20th, 2013 10:03 AM

Good question BiS. I personally don't have a problem with it, though. It's basically free credit.

Kanzler December 20th, 2013 10:17 AM

You're paying for it using your already not-very-subsidized tuition, eh?

Tsutarja December 20th, 2013 10:23 AM

I surely wouldn't want to pay for a class if it was mandatory for me to take, if it's not a core class like English or mathematics.

Aeroblast December 20th, 2013 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BlahISuck (Post 7996510)
You're paying for it using your already not-very-subsidized tuition, eh?

Tuition? What? You mean scholarship and grants?

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Originally Posted by Zach (Post 7996518)
I surely wouldn't want to pay for a class if it was mandatory for me to take, if it's not a core class like English or mathematics.

Well, I don't want to be in College for more than 4 years. It's the price I'll have to pay for trying to get my core classes out earlier. (or not having any of my future PE courses clash with my existing schedule, or stockpiling PE courses along with my already stressful classes)

Alexander Nicholi December 20th, 2013 12:48 PM

Why they have physical education classes in college is beyond me.

Also, Castform's a winrar. ^^

Nolafus December 20th, 2013 1:31 PM

Oh, you're in college? Here, let me teach you how to run! :V

Nick December 20th, 2013 1:38 PM

Cars are way too expensive. I work in a car parts warehouse and you would be amazed at the price of some of the things there. I spend about $500 a month on just car related necessities. Oil, car payments, and car insurance.

Mark Kamill December 20th, 2013 3:40 PM

We don't have PE, thank the gods. Community College and what not, so yeah. But we do have Wine Tasting, Food tasting, and all that kinda jazz, which is amazing.

Tsutarja December 20th, 2013 4:33 PM

Luckily for now I'm going to be attending a community college and there's no physical education classes required.. although I did like PE my freshman year of high school, I certainly despised it in years prior because I wasn't the most active student thus my grade wasn't the best either.

Aeroblast December 20th, 2013 4:38 PM

In PE classes in my university, you don't have to worry about getting good grades because it's based on pass/fail, which is based on whether you came to the sessions or not.

Shining Raichu December 20th, 2013 9:47 PM

Even still that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard! Fancy making grown adults do PE class. That's almost criminal.

Tsutarja December 20th, 2013 9:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Shining Raichu (Post 7997287)
Even still that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard! Fancy making grown adults do PE class. That's almost criminal.

I already thought it was criminal enough for me to have to take PE as a freshman in high school. :p But yeah, I do think that colleges shouldn't make students take a physical education class, especially if it isn't within the student's major.

Aeroblast December 20th, 2013 10:01 PM

I could see why people don't like it, but I personally don't mind. I need some exercise anyways, and it's a good way to meet new people.

(And it's actually just table tennis, not a full blown PE course)

Zeffy December 20th, 2013 10:04 PM

Wow you people are weird. We here (in my uni at least) are absolutely thrilled when it comes to PE classes...so long as its the one we want (which is most of time since we can choose which sport/whatever activity we want to do) :]

Aeroblast December 20th, 2013 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeffy (Post 7997310)
Wow you people are weird. We here (in my uni at least) are absolutely thrilled when it comes to PE classes...so long as its the one we want (which is most of time since we can choose which sport/whatever activity we want to do) :]

Finally someone who's on the same boat as I am in this thread. Thank you.

Kanzler December 20th, 2013 10:08 PM

Over here it's called varsity and extracurricular :S

Alexander Nicholi December 20th, 2013 10:09 PM

At my school if you take ROTC you're not required to take any P.E. classes whatsoever. Its just PT once a week on Thursdays, which is ten times easier than one day of PE class.

Zeffy December 20th, 2013 10:10 PM

varsity for us is those people who actually play in intercollegiate games.

extracurricular is mostly activities outside of class (ie org activities, volunteer work)

i hardly think that's PE at all haha

Kanzler December 20th, 2013 10:13 PM

wow

so poetic

much repeat

casual

very definitions

line skip

where caps

Nick December 20th, 2013 10:13 PM

PE was a joke in my high school. All we did was pretty much play various sports.

PE at a the private high school in my town was much better, because it focused on improving things about yourself physically and getting into better shape.

Though I guess if you want to be technical, sports can do that too, but I just don't like playing sports in a school setting. The only time I enjoy playing sports is with my friends where I don't feel performance anxiety.

Shining Raichu December 20th, 2013 10:13 PM

Exercise should be encouraged, not enforced. This is my stance and I will stick with it til the bitter end.

Nolafus December 20th, 2013 10:15 PM

PE at my old high school was brutal. You know it's rigorous when there's a girl that lost 35 pounds in one trimester. O.o

Nick December 20th, 2013 10:17 PM

I wish I went to your school.

I wish a few others went to your school as well.

I wish I went to your school.

I wish a few others went to your school as well.

Meganium December 20th, 2013 10:19 PM

I hated PE so much when I was in high school. Having to run a mile 2-3 times a week is extremely painful. >_<

Aeroblast December 20th, 2013 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Shining Raichu (Post 7997324)
Exercise should be encouraged, not enforced. This is my stance and I will stick with it til the bitter end.

Unless you're obese... which I'm shameful to admit that I'm just over the obesity limit as I have found out yesterday.

(maybe I should've posted that in this thread: http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=315205)

Nolafus December 20th, 2013 10:31 PM

Well, if I lost any weight, I might just be blown away by a breeze or something.

Nick December 20th, 2013 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Team Fail (Post 7997348)
I have a beer belly forming on myself. I gotta start working and loosing it!

Go vegetarian and work in a physically demanding job with manual labor.

Worked for me. Though I never had a beer belly or anything like that, and people said I needed to gain wait for as long as I can remember. Of course, the people who said that were often the ones that could stand in an isle in a store and it'd be a challenge to get around them.

None the less, it does work regardless.

antemortem December 20th, 2013 10:42 PM

Manual labor is a difficult thing to commit to because it's manual labor.

Nick December 20th, 2013 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Minzy (Post 7997357)
Manual labor is a difficult thing to commit to because it's manual labor.

Manual labor builds character and puts some things into perspective.

Seki December 20th, 2013 11:00 PM

I always enjoyed PE lessons, not sure why you people hate them. (although I am younger compared to the others)

I'm so light and scrawny that sometimes even a breeze could blow me away.

Shining Raichu December 20th, 2013 11:00 PM

I just watched a video on water birth so it took me a few seconds to realise you weren't talking about birthing labor lol

donavannj December 20th, 2013 11:00 PM

Manual labor jobs are tedious and boring to me. I prefer something more mentally challenging for working.

I lost around 40 lbs the first few months I had my last manual labor job, however, so that was a plus. Then my calorie intake caught up with me (I had to adjust it so that I wasn't getting hungry 2 hours into my shift despite having eaten not even half an hour before the shift started -- with the labor I was doing it took quite a bit of additional food to reach that point) and I stayed a stable weight for the remainder of the year I had that job. I tended to ache all over at the end of the day while working that job, but I had virtually no muscle strength before that job.

I did gain some perspective while working that, though.

antemortem December 20th, 2013 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ace (Post 7997374)
Manual labor builds character and puts some things into perspective.

If the concept of putting things into perspective originates from 'working hard for what you want' I can work just as hard putting in hours of dance/song rehearsal or researching the next scientific advancement. You don't have to get your hands dirty to build character or realize nothing is achieved through doing nothing.

If that's not what you meant oops ^_^

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Originally Posted by Shining Raichu
I just watched a video on water birth so it took me a few seconds to realise you weren't talking about birthing labor lol

I'm linking you videos more often.

Nick December 20th, 2013 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by donavannj (Post 7997384)
Manual labor jobs are tedious and boring to me. I prefer something more mentally challenging for working.

I lost around 40 lbs the first few months I had my last manual labor job, however, so that was a plus. Then my calorie intake caught up with me (I had to adjust it so that I wasn't getting hungry 2 hours into my shift despite having eaten not even half an hour before the shift started -- with the labor I was doing it took quite a bit of additional food to reach that point) and I stayed a stable weight for the remainder of the year I had that job. I tended to ache all over at the end of the day while working that job, but I had virtually no muscle strength before that job.

I did gain some perspective while working that, though.

I absolutely agree. I don't think manual labor jobs are at all jobs anyone should aspire towards. The better high paying and more rewarding jobs are the ones that don't require manual labor, after all. I often joke around with some coworkers at my job right now that a blind monkey could do the work we do, and yet we still have some incredibly dimwitted people who just can't get the notion of pretty much shopping (picking something off of a shelf and putting it into a cart) down. But contrary to what many people belief, manual labor jobs do have great benefits on their own (physically and mentally). If not only in the most affirming way (like progressing in your life), like you just confirmed.

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Originally Posted by Minzy (Post 7997387)
If the concept of putting things into perspective originates from 'working hard for what you want' I can work just as hard putting in hours of dance/song rehearsal or researching the next scientific advancement. You don't have to get your hands dirty to build character or realize nothing is achieved through doing nothing.

Working hard for what you want and using a manual labor job as an example is terrible. The character it builds is different than the character that other jobs build. I can't really explain it.

Kanzler December 20th, 2013 11:16 PM

Perhaps it's humbling as it's your physical body that submits to the toil? You feel the strength and struggle somatically, and so it's an intimate, visceral character that you build.

Nick December 20th, 2013 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BlahISuck (Post 7997403)
Perhaps it's humbling as it's your physical body that submits to the toil? You feel the strength and struggle somatically, and so it's an intimate, visceral character that you build.

It's humbling, and also a great motivation at the same time. Nobody wants to work in a warehouse their entire life on minimum wage (granted, warehouse jobs start higher), barely able to survive on their own. But at the same time, you look at the people around you and you grow an appreciation for it. Depending on the type of person you are, it can also be the hardest job you'll ever have. Most people aspire to be something in something that they enjoy, after all. There's a difference between hard and challenging. People want to be challenged, but they don't necessarily want that challenge to be hard in the same way that the work that comes from living that life is. Of course, different jobs require different demands of you.

But its also not that much toil. Sure, in the beginning it's hard to adjust, but I've worked where I work now for about a year and a half now and I can pretty much do every job in the warehouse without any difficulty or physical strain on me at all. Your body adapts.

antemortem December 20th, 2013 11:23 PM

If you can't explain it, why did you say it? :P

Though I do that all the time, so I can't talk.

Nick December 20th, 2013 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Minzy (Post 7997408)
If you can't explain it, why did you say it? :P

Though I do that all the time, so I can't talk.

Because it's true. I just can't describe it for you. It's something you'd have to experience to realize.

I think all the entry level jobs and jobs that you would get in high school or a summer job to help pay the bills, or anything along those lines, teach a lot of valuable life lessons, but I only have experience in manual labor and retail. And after working in manual labor, my position in retail was a complete joke in terms of difficulty. The demands were different, but there were correlations between the two jobs that related to one another that I could draw similarities towards. Maybe it also had to do with my maturity at the time when I had the retail job compared to the maturity I had now, which is significantly different. But after working where I work, I hear people complain about their jobs in retail all the time and I just can't help but roll my eyes.

Kanzler December 20th, 2013 11:42 PM

I sold stuff for my first job. Was pretty proud of myself. Better than flipping burgers or working at Walmart, at any rate.

Sector December 21st, 2013 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BlahISuck (Post 7997430)
I sold stuff for my first job. Was pretty proud of myself. Better than flipping burgers or working at Walmart, at any rate.

They have Walmarts in Canada? Since when?

Kanzler December 21st, 2013 12:26 AM

/me shakes fist

y u do dis to me

Sector December 21st, 2013 1:14 AM

/me shakes head

I shall terminate you


/me shakes head

I shall terminate you

Shining Raichu December 21st, 2013 2:11 AM

your double post merging actually made you seem like a malfunctioning terminator.

Tsutarja December 21st, 2013 4:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BlahISuck (Post 7997430)
I sold stuff for my first job. Was pretty proud of myself. Better than flipping burgers or working at Walmart, at any rate.

Unfortunately, I've never heard back from employers that don't make you flip burgers, so I may have to wind up working in fast food if I really need a job for the first time ugh

Cordelia December 21st, 2013 5:39 AM

My first job was at Chic-Fil-A lol it was kind of special but it was a first job and I got paid so /shrug

Sector December 21st, 2013 6:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Shining Raichu (Post 7997534)
your double post merging actually made you seem like a malfunctioning terminator.

You should know, you're the one that created me

Shining Raichu December 21st, 2013 6:09 AM

No I didn't. No terminator I created would ever malfunction.

Sector December 21st, 2013 6:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Shining Raichu (Post 7997738)
No I didn't. No terminator I created would ever malfunction.

That's where you're wrong. I wouldn't be SR Jr if that was true.

/me Malfunction
/me Malfunction

Tsutarja December 21st, 2013 6:55 AM

So Sector has been a robot this whole time and I never realized it?

Nick December 21st, 2013 6:59 AM

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Originally Posted by CC (Post 7997716)
My first job was at Chic-Fil-A lol it was kind of special but it was a first job and I got paid so /shrug

I don't know how Chic-fil-a employees do it. Literally every single one of them is brimming with joy (even though I'm sure inside they're living in a storm) and are just delighted to see you and absolutely all of them do it in such a natural way. It doesn't seem at all forced. In other fast food joints, people fake enthusiasm and politeness all the time and it's so noticeable, but I've never felt like it was forced when I go there.

Cordelia December 21st, 2013 7:01 AM

I worked in the kitchen, it was different back there hahaha. Real people work in the kitchen, robots are in the front. :P

Meganium December 21st, 2013 7:22 AM

I didn't know my brother is a robot created by Raichu.

My first job was being an office assistant, something I actually enjoyed back then :3

Dragon December 21st, 2013 7:36 AM

My first job was working at a Wallmart; it wasn't bad, but, the co-workers... seem to try a little too hard with retailing and heart-warming the customers; one actually said to a customer, "Ah, Super Mario was great! Gotta find that Hyrule triforce, you know?!"

Maybe he played too much Zelda and want to butter him up, but, he'll get it right someday. :b

Tsutarja December 21st, 2013 7:36 AM

If anything, I'd probably rather have a job on my school's campus instead of working in food/retail.. although I'm not sure if I could get a job on campus or how much it would pay either.

Hikamaru December 21st, 2013 7:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Aura Blackquill (Post 7997817)
My first job was working at a Wallmart; it wasn't bad, but, the co-workers... seem to try a little too hard with retailing and heart-warming the customers; one actually said to a customer, "Ah, Super Mario was great! Gotta find that Hyrule triforce, you know?!"

Maybe he played too much Zelda and want to butter him up, but, he'll get it right someday. :b

My first job involved packaging Avon brand cosmetics, then after that I worked at a McDonalds, then a supermarket called IGA (It's a supermarket chain in Australia), the library and an office at a girls' high school, an office and of course my most recent one at another factory. Talk about me being diverse!

Not all those jobs suit my given talent though.


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