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toxictwinkie September 25th, 2013 7:04 AM

...so anything on facebook yet?

Sceptile14 September 25th, 2013 7:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jellotime91 (Post 7848663)
I think it would definitely be Dragon. Now that Dragon is not over-powered, it makes more sense. And it would mean there's an Eeveelution for every special type.

Though personally I'd LOVE a Poison eeveelution. Poison types are awesome.

I definitely think that a Poison type evolution would be better then a Dragon type one. This is because I don't think a dragon type one would make sense. I mean, Eevee is a Fennec Fox right? For it to be dragon type, it would actually have to be some sort of Dragon, to make sense. Look at evolutions such as Vaporeon, they are still the same creature, but adapted for different environments. A Dragon, would not still be able to maintain that fox design for it to make sense. I hope I'm making sense.

pedrito3_poke September 25th, 2013 7:10 AM

Nope. Everyone was wrong.

MrDollSteak September 25th, 2013 7:11 AM

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Originally Posted by pedrito3_poke (Post 7848702)

Welp. Didn't see that coming.

toxictwinkie September 25th, 2013 7:11 AM

I can grow to like this. Not what I was expecting though. :P

BraveNewWorld September 25th, 2013 7:11 AM

Well, here it is...
https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/923390_409455612509722_1681189407_n.png

That's a horrible name.

Guy September 25th, 2013 7:11 AM

I feel sorely underwhelmed, but mostly because Honedge was never really a Pokémon that grabbed my attention to begin with. I guess Doublade is alright though. I wasn't expecting Honedge to even have an evolution anyway.

Salt-the-Sloth September 25th, 2013 7:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sceptile14 (Post 7848694)
I definitely think that a Poison type evolution would be better then a Dragon type one. This is because I don't think a dragon type one would make sense. I mean, Eevee is a Fennec Fox right? For it to be dragon type, it would actually have to be some sort of Dragon, to make sense. Look at evolutions such as Vaporeon, they are still the same creature, but adapted for different environments. A Dragon, would not still be able to maintain that fox design for it to make sense. I hope I'm making sense.

I can definitly see where you're coming from, a poison eeveelution would be a lot easier to portray than a clash of fox and dragon. But remember being dragon type doesn't necessarily mean it needs to BE a dragon. Just as being a Fairy type doesn't mean it needs wings and sparkles. They did a good job with Sylveon, so if they did do a dragon eeveelution I can see it just looking a hella badass with red and blue to portray the dragon side of it.

Still as much as I want (REALLY REALLY WANT) a dragon eeveelution, I agree a poison eeveelution would look a lot more natural...wow how ironic is that, the poisoned creature being natural...

Iceshadow3317 September 25th, 2013 7:14 AM

Well, didn't see that coming at all. But I like it! I love Honedge from the start because I love swords. I thought Honedge would be a stand alone though

Still wish it was an Eeveelution or even Oorotto.

toxictwinkie September 25th, 2013 7:14 AM

How would one pronounce 'Doublade'? Doo-Blade, DowBlade? O_O

SnowpointQuincy September 25th, 2013 7:14 AM

Doublade?? I intentionally avoiding pictures, so please only put them in spoilers.

So, literally, the only way for a sword to evovle is to become TWO swords! Called it! Never thought this Pokemon would evolve.

Pokestick, good times. September 25th, 2013 7:15 AM

In spite of the concept (hehehe two swords), and the awful name (it's talonflame all over), it looks surprisingly decent.

I feel like I shouldn't like it, but I do.

Iceshadow3317 September 25th, 2013 7:16 AM

I think you say it like dowblade.

SnowpointQuincy September 25th, 2013 7:17 AM

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Originally Posted by toxictwinkie (Post 7848715)
How would one pronounce 'Doublade'? Doo-Blade, DowBlade? O_O


I like to preseve the sound of the root words so "double" + "Blade" = "Doub-Lade"? Doubl-Ade?

Pokestick, good times. September 25th, 2013 7:17 AM

Duh-blade feels like the natural way to go.

Double-ade wud b kool though.

DarkEmeraldRarity September 25th, 2013 7:17 AM

I love it! Its so awesome!

Guy September 25th, 2013 7:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Pokestick, good times. (Post 7848724)
Duh-blade feels like the natural way to go.

That's how I pronounce it too!

Jigglymilk September 25th, 2013 7:18 AM

Eh... It's ok. But I don't think anyone expected or even wanted an evo of Honedge. It's just not a very eye catching design. Doublade looks good with the pink, but the name has 0 creativity, and its essentially just two Honedges fused together. What's next, Triplowrd?

billyjoseph September 25th, 2013 7:20 AM

I love it! Honedge is already in my top 6, Doublade is just too sick! Imagine that sucker in 3D battles! Was really wanting a second Eeveelution though...

Sceptile14 September 25th, 2013 7:20 AM

I really like this, but I don't know why. I really wanted a Honedge evolution, but always thought that it wasn't going to happen, but this has really surprised me. The name is nice and easy to roll of the tongue, your basically saying 'da blade'. It seems to have turned into not only two swords, but also a bit of a shield as well. It reminds me of this.
This might just end up being on my team.http://www.poemasconvoz.com/images/graphics/swordshield.gif

toxictwinkie September 25th, 2013 7:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SnowpointQuincy (Post 7848723)
I like to preseve the sound of the root words so "double" + "Blade" = "Doub-Lade"? Doubl-Ade?

Ah right ^__^ Thankyou. Doublade is stange English for me XD

Pokestick, good times. September 25th, 2013 7:22 AM

The composition of its design sort of reminds me of Chandelure. In that way I like it.

Grif of Hearts September 25th, 2013 7:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Sceptile14 (Post 7848694)
I definitely think that a Poison type evolution would be better then a Dragon type one. This is because I don't think a dragon type one would make sense. I mean, Eevee is a Fennec Fox right? For it to be dragon type, it would actually have to be some sort of Dragon, to make sense. Look at evolutions such as Vaporeon, they are still the same creature, but adapted for different environments. A Dragon, would not still be able to maintain that fox design for it to make sense. I hope I'm making sense.

I think it's a pretty poor argument to state that there can't be a dragon type Eeveelution because it would involve its evolution taking on a more draconic appearance. Altaria is a bird, is it not? And Kingdra a seahorse? And Flygon a dragonfly? I understand their logic behind making these three dragon types but it shows that Game Freak have been quite liberal with typing before. I think they could afford to stick a few scales on it and it'll still look draconic but feline/canine enough to still look like an Eevee evolution.

It's not as if the Eeveelutions are consistent either. Flareon is based on the pomeranian dog breed while Vaporeon is a visual pun on the catfish (although personally it always reminded me of a sealion). Umbreon even shares some rabbit characteristics in with its bulky canine ones. As I said, it wouldn't be impossible for GF to take a few dragon-typical traits and apply them to make a dragon evolution for the line.

...of course, this is implying I want them to make a dragon type Eevee evolution. I dislike the Eevee line as a whole but I would be disappointed if they finished making them without having one for each type.

I like Doublade already. <3

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 25th, 2013 7:26 AM

Well I didn't expect a evolution of Honedge to be announced...it looks as plain as it's pre evolution sadly...

Livewire September 25th, 2013 7:26 AM

That's....it? :/

I do actually kind of like the design, compared to Honedge, but damn, what a waste of an announcement.

The ghostly suit of armor would have been a much better idea for Honedge in general. Blah.

Iceshadow3317 September 25th, 2013 7:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jigglymilk (Post 7848731)
Eh... It's ok. But I don't think anyone expected or even wanted an evo of Honedge. It's just not a very eye catching design. Doublade looks good with the pink, but the name has 0 creativity, and its essentially just two Honedges fused together. What's next, Triplowrd?

What's the difference between it and Magneton? Magneton is 3 Magnemites. Same with Klink's line.

Patrick September 25th, 2013 7:31 AM

Hahahahaha, that's pretty funny. I can't stop laughing the more I think about it. Hehee.

So I'm guessing this is another Magnemite sort of deal where two of these things joined together.

Colress Machine September 25th, 2013 7:33 AM

Well of all the things I expected, a Honedge evolution was not one of them. :1 Ah well, I think it looks pretty neat. Clever name.
Commence bawwing about how it just evolves into two swords : P

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 25th, 2013 7:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceman3317 (Post 7848747)
What's the difference between it and Magneton? Magneton is 3 Magnemites. Same with Klink's line.

True, and besides it's not as bad as Magneton either in terms of creative design...
I wonder if there's going to be a third called Triedge/Triblade/ Trisword (this name looks like Kris sword which is a type of sword in real life...kind of short.). With a taller, longer blade in the middle and the other two crossing it...it'll look like of cool actually...

Decimosoma September 25th, 2013 7:38 AM

Oh, you guys didn't expect it? Well, news flash you SHOULD of expected it. No matter what you say, you SHOULD expect it. Every generation has this kind of Pokémon, so it's not big of a deal to me.

Sceptile14 September 25th, 2013 7:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Grif of Hearts (Post 7848742)
I think it's a pretty poor argument to state that there can't be a dragon type Eeveelution because it would involve its evolution taking on a more draconic appearance. Altaria is a bird, is it not? And Kingdra a seahorse? And Flygon a dragonfly? I understand their logic behind making these three dragon types but it shows that Game Freak have been quite liberal with typing before. I think they could afford to stick a few scales on it and it'll still look draconic but feline/canine enough to still look like an Eevee evolution.

It's not as if the Eeveelutions are consistent either. Flareon is based on the pomeranian dog breed while Vaporeon is a visual pun on the catfish (although personally it always reminded me of a sealion). Umbreon even shares some rabbit characteristics in with its bulky canine ones. As I said, it wouldn't be impossible for GF to take a few dragon-typical traits and apply them to make a dragon evolution for the line.

...of course, this is implying I want them to make a dragon type Eevee evolution. I dislike the Eevee line as a whole but I would be disappointed if they finished making them without having one for each type.

I like Doublade already. <3

In my opinion, Kingdra and Flygon are quite easy to be labelled as Dragon types. Kingdra, while also being a sea horse, is also based on a weedy sea dragonhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weedy_sea_dragon

For Flygon, some species of Dragonflys are commonly called Sand Dragons so its ground/dragon typing kind of makes sensehttp://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Flygon_(Pok%C3%A9mon)#Name_origin

Altaria is something that I can not really defend for the change in typing, other then it is most likely based off of a Peng, which are Chinese Legendary birds, but this doesn't really defend it as it is not really a dragon.
Although they are not originally dragons, they are at least somewhat similar, so they can most likely be excused. The eevelutions are the same as well. Foxes are canines so at least they are quite similar in that relation. I just don't see a Canine becoming dragon type :/

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 25th, 2013 7:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Decimosoma (Post 7848771)
Oh, you guys didn't expect it? Well, news flash you SHOULD of expected it. No matter what you say, you SHOULD expect it. Every generation has this kind of Pokémon, so it's not big of a deal to me.

I'm not surprised by it doubling (I actually expected that). Just surprised it ended up being Honedge who's evolution was shown. However it's nice to see it has one...maybe I'll dress my character up as Roxas or Kirito and capture one...

Hikamaru September 25th, 2013 7:43 AM

Wow a Honedge evo? This was something no-one was expecting, but I do remember when Honedge itself was first revealed and some were speculating its evo would be made of two swords. Guess they were right after all.

It's kinda reminding me of the Magnemite and Klink like already, Steel-type Pokemon that like multiply as they evolve. Doublade is a cool name, but it looks like two Honedges fused and with pink cloths instead of blue.

Decimosoma September 25th, 2013 7:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7848774)
I'm not surprised by it doubling (I actually expected that). Just surprised it ended up being Honedge who's evolution was shown. However it's nice to see it has one...maybe I'll dress my character up as Roxas or Kirito and capture one...

If it's indeed our Magneton of our generation then I'd expect a second evolution as a ghost mirage holding the two blades or something along the lines.

Salt-the-Sloth September 25th, 2013 7:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7848774)
I'm not surprised by it doubling (I actually expected that). Just surprised it ended up being Honedge who's evolution was shown. However it's nice to see it has one...maybe I'll dress my character up as Roxas or Kirito and capture one...

Heck, Kirito's ability is called Dual Blades o.o it's just screaming for someone to do it.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 25th, 2013 7:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikari10 (Post 7848778)
Wow a Honedge evo? This was something no-one was expecting, but I do remember when Honedge itself was first revealed and some were speculating its evo would be made of two swords. Guess they were right after all.

It's kinda reminding me of the Magnemite and Klink like already, Steel-type Pokemon that like multiply as they evolve. Doublade is a cool name, but it looks like two Honedges fused and with pink cloths instead of blue.

Yeah...I'm waiting for a third sword to be added...possibly where the hilt is now. Maybe become green or some color. Hopefully with a more ghosty aura coming out from it.

Sceptile14 September 25th, 2013 7:49 AM

I hope it has another evolution, as at the moment it does seem kind of incomplete. It's probably because I'm used to having three of a Pokemon in a design. If it does get an evolution, I hope that shield behind it becomes more visable, and the swords become bigger , and sharper. I don't really want three swords as that wouldn't really look right to me. The idea behind it seems to be the swords and shield icon, as I mentioned before. Three swords just wouldn't fit in with the theme they seem to be going with.
Another thing that I could see is the ghost becoming visable. It holds the two swords while the shield becomes a chest plate. I think that this would be even more awesome.

metalhand September 25th, 2013 7:49 AM

The thing in the back of doubleblade seems to me weird.
I have a feeling its gonna evolve once again, this time it will be something human-shaped that will hold the swords.

Keiran September 25th, 2013 7:49 AM

Don't know why they made a big deal about its announcement, but it is rather radical. Was hoping the evolution would show a ghost wielding it, but Doublade will probably look amazing in battle.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 25th, 2013 7:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Sceptile14 (Post 7848787)
I hope it has another evolution, as at the moment it does seem kind of incomplete. It's probably because I'm used to having three of a Pokemon in a design. If it does get an evolution, I hope that shield behind it becomes more visable, and the swords become bigger , and sharper. I don't really want three swords as that wouldn't really look right to me. The idea behind it seems to be the swords and shield icon, as I mentioned before. Three swords just wouldn't fit in with the theme they seem to be going with.
Another thing that I could see is the ghost becoming visable. It holds the two swords while the shield becomes a chest plate. I think that this would be even more awesome.

That's no shield...it's a sheath...

You know a dual-wielding ghost sounds really cool, hopefully it happens.

fenyx4 September 25th, 2013 7:53 AM

In before Dual Wielding (and Oven Logic)! :P

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Originally Posted by pedrito3_poke (Post 7848702)

...............

...why is it pink? XD

Mixed feelings to this. I knew about the announcement about 2 days prior, but I was anticipating that Oorooto would be officially revealed in English Pokemon media (and now we have yet another Pokemon that gets the English-reveal jump of Oorooto! That is just baffling. XD). Thankfully, "never-before-seen" Pokemon actually meant "never before seen" and not "never before seen in English media". It's interesting that the English media was able to do the reveal ahead of Corocoro magazine or the Japanese Pokemon website; I've hope they've updated as well, though, because we should really be pushing the "simultaneous worldwide reveal" and not reveals that are exclusive to one country/region... Anyway..

The name is...rather basic. 0_o I can't lambast it too much, as it at least it tries to be more punny and portmanteau-ish as opposed to the name of "Talonflame" (that one could count as a potential portmanteau of talon and inflame...although I feel that's stretching it a bit because I imagine most people, myself included, will simply read it as the utterly agonizingly simplistic "talon + flame" at first glance) I'm still thinking of a better alternative (as I don't like I'm in a good position to be complaining about Pokemon names much unless I can come up with a better alternative); the only ones I have are Twinives (twin + knives, also incorporating "win" because I can tell Honedge's evolution is likely going to pwn like crazy), Nittor"something" (ni, Japanese for "two/2", and "tor...", because it sounded cool and resembles the word tear, but I can't think of any good words beginning with "tor" at the moment). I don't see many good words for "two" and "double" in other languages, although there's doppel...

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Originally Posted by Pokestick, good times. (Post 7848719)
In spite of the concept (hehehe two swords), and the awful name (it's talonflame all over), it looks surprisingly decent.

I feel like I shouldn't like it, but I do.

My thoughts exactly. {XD}

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Originally Posted by SnowpointQuincy (Post 7848723)
I like to preseve the sound of the root words so "double" + "Blade" = "Doub-Lade"? Doubl-Ade?

Well, technically, we don't know what the root words are if the localizers don't specify them (although, like many may do, I'm inclined to believe that "double + blade" is the easiest origin to identify), so any pronunciation should be valid, at least in my opinion. :P For all we know, there may be the word doub in some other foreign language that's pronounced like "doo" and was subtly included in Doublade's name simply because Rule of Cool.

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Originally Posted by Sceptile14 (Post 7848736)
I really like this, but I don't know why. I really wanted a Honedge evolution, but always thought that it wasn't going to happen, but this has really surprised me. The name is nice and easy to roll of the tongue, your basically saying 'da blade'. It seems to have turned into not only two swords, but also a bit of a shield as well. It reminds me of this.
This might just end up being on my team.http://www.poemasconvoz.com/images/graphics/swordshield.gif

I agree; I got a slight shield motif as well from Doublade's design. In all, Doublade is cool merely because it retains Honedge's design (sans the blue colors) yet it just multiplies it by 2. I really wish that Doublade's "hilt ribbon" thing was red-hued, because I don't want to be fighting with "2 swords that are pink-ribboned". >.< I was expecting an all-new Pokemon (or evolution), but a Honedge evolution definitely surprised me; Honedge looked fine as it was by itself. The thing that most excites is that this revelation gives the Honedge line a better chance of being competitively viable (it fortunately retains the same ability as well!).

I can also see the Genwunners crying out about the laziness of the design (adding another "head/entity" of sorts, just like in Generation 5 with Klinklang and co.), only to see other fans use several "beloved" Generation 1 designs (Magneton, Dodrio, Dugtrio, etc. Yes, those employ 3 entities rather than two, but it's basic math that amounts to the same concept) as a counter-point... -_-

Nevertheless, I like swords, so two swords, as Lloyd Irving delicately stated, is even better! ^^ Doublade is still a prime Pokemon in my eyes..rather underwhelming, yet retains the awesome edge that Honedge possesses. My main hope is that Doublade's shiny coloration utilizes red hilt-ribbons, because that pink just is not working for me like the blue did. :<

EDIT: Still nicknaming my Doublade Hexcalibur. And Doublade had better learn the move Double-Edge or it's going to be very disappointing. XD Come to think of it, "Doubledge" would've been a nice name!

Killjoy September 25th, 2013 7:54 AM

Kind of underwhelming but I don't hate it.

That being said, the name is no where near as bad as Talonflame. Doublade sounds pretty natural, obviously Double and Blade combined. Talonflame is literally the two words that encompass it, side by side... That is why it's no good


Edit: and No Guard will be interesting :D

Entermaid September 25th, 2013 7:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Livewire (Post 7848746)
That's....it? :/

I do actually kind of like the design, compared to Honedge, but damn, what a waste of an announcement.

The ghostly suit of armor would have been a much better idea for Honedge in general. Blah.

Exactly my thoughts. I was open to seeing an evo of Honedge before I completely wrote him off. But...everything is wrong about this pokemon, even the TERRIBLE name. I thougt he would gain a suit or something that would make him appear like a 'monster', 'animal', or 'creathure' of some sort. Rather it doesn't have an essence of either of those things - it's just a pair of swords glued together. Not only do I agree that this was a waste of an announcement, but I would say this is a waste of space on the pokedex.

Thus far, I only dislike two pokemon in Kalos, Honedge and Doubledge. So disappointed!

fenyx4 September 25th, 2013 8:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Decimosoma (Post 7848771)
Oh, you guys didn't expect it? Well, news flash you SHOULD of expected it. No matter what you say, you SHOULD expect it. Every generation has this kind of Pokémon, so it's not big of a deal to me.

Game Freak has been in the trend of screwing with the "traditions" (if the 'patterns' can even be called that) that the Pokemon games, so people could have also been expecting them to not introduce a "entity + 1" Pokemon like past generations have. And Honedge was quite fine by itself, too; "Dual Wielding" or even "Tri-Wielding" could be accomplished by using 2 or 3 Honedge in battle. If they were going to do the "entity + 1" thing at all, I would've expected it on a different Pokemon, not the flawless Honedge. Honedge already got buzz with its sword (and phantasmal) motif and Steel/Ghost typing; you would figure that would be enough for it.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 25th, 2013 8:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Fenneking (Post 7848800)
Exactly my thoughts. I was open to seeing an evo of Honedge before I completely wrote him off. But...everything is wrong about this pokemon, even the TERRIBLE name. I thougt he would gain a suit or something that would make him appear like a 'monster', 'animal', or 'creathure' of some sort. Rather it doesn't have an essence of either of those things - it's just a pair of swords glued together. Not only do I agree that this was a waste of an announcement, but I would say this is a waste of space on the pokedex.

Thus far, I only dislike two pokemon in Kalos, Honedge and Doubledge. So disappointed!

It's not that bad...still not Magneton (Magnet and Ton...so creative...).
However it is underwhelming...wish those swords weren't as short and looked cooler...maybe it's final evoltuion will be dual rapiers...

Grif of Hearts September 25th, 2013 8:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Sceptile14 (Post 7848772)
In my opinion, Kingdra and Flygon are quite easy to be labelled as Dragon types. Kingdra, while also being a sea horse, is also based on a weedy sea dragonhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weedy_sea_dragon

For Flygon, some species of Dragonflys are commonly called Sand Dragons so its ground/dragon typing kind of makes sensehttp://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Flygon_(Pok%C3%A9mon)#Name_origin

Altaria is something that I can not really defend for the change in typing, other then it is most likely based off of a Peng, which are Chinese Legendary birds, but this doesn't really defend it as it is not really a dragon.
Although they are not originally dragons, they are at least somewhat similar, so they can most likely be excused. The eevelutions are the same as well. Foxes are canines so at least they are quite similar in that relation. I just don't see a Canine becoming dragon type :/

As I said I know the logic behind each of these three different Pokémon. The leafy seadragon, the dragonfly and the Peng. It's just that none of them are actually dragons, instead being creatures with dragon-like traits.

The point that I'm trying to make is that a Dragon-type Eevee evolution doesn't need to sprout wings and breath fire (or DragonBreath considering this is Pokémon) in order for it to have that type. There is a plethora of other things they could do to make it unique, interesting and clearly a Dragon-type without making it any less mammalian.

Killjoy September 25th, 2013 8:08 AM

Most Pokemon's names are a combination of two simple words. If you think Doublade's name is any less creative, you are imagining it

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 25th, 2013 8:08 AM

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Originally Posted by fenyx4 (Post 7848806)
Game Freak has been in the trend of screwing with the "traditions" (if the 'patterns' can even be called that) that the Pokemon games, so people could have also been expecting them to not introduce a "entity + 1" Pokemon like past generations have. And Honedge was quite fine by itself, too; "Dual Wielding" or even "Tri-Wielding" could be accomplished by using 2 or 3 Honedge in battle. If they were going to do the "entity + 1" thing at all, I would've expected it on a different Pokemon, not the flawless Honedge. Honedge already got buzz with its sword (and phantasmal) motif and Steel/Ghost typing; you would figure that would be enough for it.

I don't remember Hoenn or Sinnoh (nor Johto) introducing a "entity + 1" Pokemon...most were kept to Gen 1 until Unova and Kalos now came along...well at least Unova and Kalos were more creative with their "entity + 1's (or 2 in Magneton and Dugtrio's case...)" with the gears fusing to make something that resembles a machine of some sort, and a new sheath...hopefully Duoblade will have a more creative final though...or a Mega in the third version/sequels (if they give Kalos Pokemon Megas in them).

Sceptile14 September 25th, 2013 8:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Grif of Hearts (Post 7848810)
As I said I know the logic behind each of these three different Pokémon. The leafy seadragon, the dragonfly and the Peng. It's just that none of them are actually dragons, instead being creatures with dragon-like traits.

The point that I'm trying to make is that a Dragon-type Eevee evolution doesn't need to sprout wings and breath fire (or DragonBreath considering this is Pokémon) in order for it to have that type. There is a plethora of other things they could do to make it unique, interesting and clearly a Dragon-type without making it any less mammalian.

The thing is, Eevee hasn't got any relation to dragons what so ever, which is why I wouldn't want one as the design would most likely seem weird to me. Whether you want it or not is down to how you see it working, but to me, it just wouldn't work. The Pokemon already mentioned have at least a little relation to dragons, while a fox just doesn't have any relation at all. This means that all they would be making is an Eevee with scales, and possibly wings. They wouldn't really be able to do anything amazing with it because of the limitation in design choices they can go with.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 25th, 2013 8:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Sceptile14 (Post 7848829)
The thing is, Eevee hasn't got any relation to dragons what so ever, which is why I wouldn't want one as the design would most likely seem weird to me. Whether you want it or not is down to how you see it working, but to me, it just wouldn't work. The Pokemon already mentioned have at least a little relation to dragons, while a fox just doesn't have any relation at all. This means that all they would be making is an Eevee with scales, and possibly wings. They wouldn't really be able to do anything amazing with it because of the limitation in design choices they can go with.

What about MegaAmpharos? Has Ryu in it's japanese name but for a sheep to become part Dragon seems as odd as a fox-bunny-dog creature.

Venitardus September 25th, 2013 8:25 AM

Doublade is the evolution of honedge. Serebii confirmed it.

Sceptile14 September 25th, 2013 8:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7848837)
What about MegaAmpharos? Has Ryu in it's japanese name but for a sheep to become part Dragon seems as odd as a fox-bunny-dog creature.

Forgot about that thing.. I guess you could argue that it becoming part dragon is just as ridiculous, but at the same time it at least has some relation with dragon, coming from its name, like you said. Plus it's a mega evolution, they are not the same as normal evolutions, so there could be different reasons for why it has become a dragon. Megas are meant to be treated just like legendarys, so giving it this extra type does make sense to me.

Sabrewulf238 September 25th, 2013 8:39 AM

According to serebiiforums, Doublade is the work of the devil...

One reason why I prefer pokecommunity.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 25th, 2013 8:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabrewulf238 (Post 7848852)
According to serebiiforums, Doublade is the work of the devil...

One reason why I prefer pokecommunity.

Who said this?
Well it is a possessed sword so maybe in story it's the work of Giratina...(who is part Ghost!) xD

Sabrewulf238 September 25th, 2013 8:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7848853)
Who said this?
Well it is a possessed sword so maybe in story it's the work of Giratina...(who is part Ghost!) xD

Some people over at serebiiforums.

Not sure exactly but they're talking about all seeing eyes and the illuminati. I stopped caring after a while.

Pokestick, good times. September 25th, 2013 8:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabrewulf238 (Post 7848852)
According to serebiiforums, Doublade is the work of the devil...

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But it is.
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I've seen the pic about it being the goat face of satan. It's probably a joke. :P

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 25th, 2013 8:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabrewulf238 (Post 7848855)
Some people over at serebiiforums.

Not sure exactly but they're talking about all seeing eyes and the illuminati. I stopped caring after a while.

Those trolls...

Talking about the eyes Doublade is now no longer a Cyclops like Honedge as now it has two eyes making it a biclops. I hope it becomes a triclops for it's final evolution. Maybe it'll have access to some psychic moves (not that they'll help cover it's weaknesses but they'll be nice to have either way).

SnowpointQuincy September 25th, 2013 8:50 AM

I would've been fine if Honedge didn't evolve. It was a complete idea.

On the bright side, I can use his unevolved form in a play-through! Or even a NFE CHALLENGE (I disregareded him at first because I like to avoid OU/ Power House mons in playthroughs. And COME ON, he's a sword - it must be a strong pokemon.)

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 25th, 2013 8:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SnowpointQuincy (Post 7848863)
I would've been fine if Honedge didn't evolve. It was a complete idea.

On the bright side, I can use his unevolved form in a play-through! Or even a NFE CHALLENGE (I disregareded him at first because I like to avoid OU/ Power House mons in playthroughs. And COME ON, he's a sword - it must be a strong pokemon.)

I'm really starting to doubt it'll be OU sadly as it has more weaknesses now. Hopefully it's stats will be awesome to overshadow that :3

Pokestick, good times. September 25th, 2013 8:55 AM

Yeah, it's striking me as something that probably won't be very useful competitively.

But since we don't know its stats or moveset, who knows? Especially if it gets a third evo.

MrDollSteak September 25th, 2013 8:56 AM

I believe it'll be pronounced Dub-blade as in Double Blade.

But yeah it's alright, the pink works a lot better than the blue for the hilt actually.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 25th, 2013 8:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Pokestick, good times. (Post 7848868)
Yeah, it's striking me as something that probably won't be very useful competitively.

But since we don't know its stats or moveset, who knows? Especially if it gets a third evo.

I feel the same way...hopefully it's looks are deceiving.

I do think the pink works better. The blue on the hilt of honedge to me looked like a wave of water...

Oshamaru September 25th, 2013 9:06 AM

...
Well...
This was so unexpected. I thought its evolution would be more different. I'm not really fond of it, but if it can evolve again and looks different, I might change my views about it. And yes, the name is terrible.

Xander Olivieri September 25th, 2013 9:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Livewire (Post 7848746)
That's....it? :/

I do actually kind of like the design, compared to Honedge, but damn, what a waste of an announcement.

The ghostly suit of armor would have been a much better idea for Honedge in general. Blah.

Waste of an announcement? They always do this kinda thing XD

I didn't expect Honedge to get an evo, but I wasn't expecting it to be any other Pokemon really. I saw Orotto since it hadn't gotten an American release yet.

Also...so now apparently all the old leaked Pokedexes are fake as I don't remember any of them saying that Honedge evolved. So we just killed more rumors thanks to Gamefreak and Facebook.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 25th, 2013 9:24 AM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7848895)
Waste of an announcement? They always do this kinda thing XD

I didn't expect Honedge to get an evo, but I wasn't expecting it to be any other Pokemon really. I saw Orotto since it hadn't gotten an American release yet.

Also...so now apparently all the old leaked Pokedexes are fake as I don't remember any of them saying that Honedge evolved. So we just killed more rumors thanks to Gamefreak and Facebook.

True...they get our hopes up only to crush them xD

Yeah, not like many beleived them anyways but it does dispell them.

Noscium September 25th, 2013 9:24 AM

Not a good evolution but I like it.

Dedenne September 25th, 2013 9:41 AM

JUST LOOKED AT DOUBLADE OMG WAT EVEN IS THAT
I LAUHGINNNNNNNN

pokerex September 25th, 2013 9:42 AM

the Honedge/doublade line is about as creative as the voltorb/electrode line

Palkia September 25th, 2013 9:45 AM

It sounds like Doughblade for some reason. I expected Honedge to evolve into something stupid like Magnemite, and thus I'm not disappointed.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 25th, 2013 9:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Para-Dox (Post 7848932)
It sounds like Doughblade for some reason. I expected Honedge to evolve into something stupid like Magnemite, and thus I'm not disappointed.

I did too, yet I'm disappointed that the actual swords don't look different from before...which they were more threatning looking.

Flareen September 25th, 2013 9:47 AM

Honedge being the (so far) only 6th gen Pokémon I don't like - or rather completely not care for - I guess I can say I am rather disapointed.
Or once again - I simply couldn't care less. 3:

Sceptile14 September 25th, 2013 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by pokerex (Post 7848927)
the Honedge/doublade line is about as creative as the voltorb/electrode line

I think that this is miles more creative then the Pokeball line. Heck, anything is more creative then that line. It's not like this design is totally uninspired, it is actually based off of a famous shield and swords logo that I forgot the name of, or so it seems to be. Just because they added another sword, it doesn't mean that it is lazy. Evolving a pokeball into an upside down pokeball is lazy.

Grif of Hearts September 25th, 2013 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7848935)
I did too, yet I'm disappointed that the actual swords don't look different from before...which they were more threatning looking.

Actually the hilt is slightly different... Not much of a consolation but it's something.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 25th, 2013 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sceptile14 (Post 7848950)
I think that this is miles more creative then the Pokeball line. Heck, anything is more creative then that line. It's not like this design is totally uninspired, it is actually based off of a famous shield and swords logo that I forgot the name of, or so it seems to be. Just because they added another sword, it doesn't mean that it is lazy. Evolving a pokeball into an upside down pokeball is lazy.

Imo Magneton is the least creative...second by the wack the Mole Dugtrio...

@ Twilight Sky. Yeah it could've been...they could've left it blue instead of giving it a magenta color.

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Originally Posted by Jimmyray (Post 7848961)

I think they're confirmed fake, not too sure.

HaphazardAsylum September 25th, 2013 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Grif of Hearts (Post 7848957)
Actually the hilt is slightly different... Not much of a consolation but it's something.

and the sheath/ scabbard has lost the Triquetra or at least most of it

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 25th, 2013 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by HaphazardAsylum (Post 7848966)
and the sheath/ scabbard has lost the Triquetra or at least most of it

That too, but I was mostly referring to the actual swords. At least they added a sharper part to the hilt...that's something xD

Jimmyray September 25th, 2013 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7848962)


I think they're confirmed fake, not too sure.

I hope not, I really like them after the mid evolutions, especially Frogadier's

HaphazardAsylum September 25th, 2013 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7848968)
That too, but I was mostly referring to the actual swords. At they they added a sharper part to the hilt...that's something xD

yeah hopefully this is a middle stage and the swords actually change more, other than that i want to get a look at the back of the sheath and see whether its all one or if its more of a coat of arms type of design

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 25th, 2013 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by HaphazardAsylum (Post 7848979)
yeah hopefully this is a middle stage and the swords actually change more, other than that i want to get a look at the back of the sheath and see whether its all one or if its more of a coat of arms type of design

From what I've seen it looks like two overlapping sheaths, but they could be fused but they aren't like a coat of arms it seems.

HaphazardAsylum September 25th, 2013 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7848985)
From what I've seen it looks like two overlapping sheaths, but they could be fused but they aren't like a coat of arms it seems.

well it is't just 2 sheaths theirs an extra bit that could be the shield like part and thats why i really wanna see the back as it would make it clearer

Spinosaurus September 25th, 2013 10:58 AM

I expected nothing and was still disappointed.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmyray (Post 7848961)

Jesus ****ing christ dude, did you have to post something completely spoilerish in an unrelated thread? There's a rumor thread for a reason.

Thank god they're most likely fakes.

Rengoku September 25th, 2013 11:06 AM

If they are going to still give Fennekin that branch as it's staff for it's last evolution, I am done with Pokemon (I am kidding xD). I demand a epicoolish staff with crystals and whatnots.

Killjoy September 25th, 2013 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmyray (Post 7848961)

I would be very satisfied with these, though I feel they are most likely fake

Nakuzami September 25th, 2013 11:22 AM

Looking at it again, the eye on the hilt kind of reminds me of Soul Edge. A far less menacing version of Soul Edge, but Soul Edge nonetheless.

Now I'm going to grab a Honedge/Doublade and run around the pokemon world screaming about shards of the evil sword and the infinite power that they've bestowed upon me. Or something.

The only complaint I have is it's name. Honedge sounds much better than Doublade, so it's disappointing that it goes from good name to not so good name. I love the pink, though!

Colress Machine September 25th, 2013 11:26 AM

So wait, is it pronounced Doughblade or DA BLADE?

Killjoy September 25th, 2013 11:35 AM

Literally the first part of double and blade. DUH-blade

Sabrewulf238 September 25th, 2013 11:39 AM

I've been pronouncing it as Do-blade myself. It sounds kind of French too.

Probably why I don't have as much issue with the name. Do-blade sounds so much nicer than duh-blade.

Killjoy September 25th, 2013 11:55 AM

Lol gunna have to wait till it airs on the anime I guess lol

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 25th, 2013 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by HaphazardAsylum (Post 7848995)
well it is't just 2 sheaths theirs an extra bit that could be the shield like part and thats why i really wanna see the back as it would make it clearer

I double checked the picture of the back sprite and it appears the extra bit is part of the first sheath.

FireOfExile September 25th, 2013 12:23 PM

I'm not really a big fan of this. As everyone else said, it's two Honedges. I think it'd be cool if they used a bit of creativity for the evolution method (maybe get two Honedges to the same level? It wouldn't have one evolve, it'd just fuse the two and keep one Honedges' attacks and one's stats / nature, maybe.)

HaphazardAsylum September 25th, 2013 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7849156)
I double checked the picture of the back sprite and it appears the extra bit is part of the first sheath.

yeah it could be maybe its the beginnings of a third sheath or shield? and if it is a shield they could implement stances similar to forms with an offensive where the two swords are out front and a defensive one with the shield at the front? i think that could be pretty cool

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 25th, 2013 12:29 PM

Maybe the final evolution (it it has another) will be made up of two Doublade's like Metagross is two Metags fused (now Gen III did it right with Pokémon made up of the same kind as Metagross's line looks distinctive from one another and not like three magnets put together...)

Cerberus87 September 25th, 2013 12:58 PM

Doublade is kinda meh. Doublets/triplets usually look uninteresting. However, if they were thinking of giving him an evolution, I believe that, instead of turning him into a bigger, sharper sword, this was probably the safest idea.

Kanzler September 25th, 2013 1:06 PM

Doublade bwahahahaha. That is all. Seriously, multiplying up Pokemon evolutions is starting to get old. Would've been cool if they were sword and shield, with an interesting backstory like Slowpoke and Shellder.

BeefTaco September 25th, 2013 1:06 PM

I just woke up and saw this. Is it a sin to say I love it?! I'm just glad Honedge has an evo. I though Honedge was gonna be a stand alone pokemon which I tend to dislike.

TreeKangaroo September 25th, 2013 1:21 PM

Poor helioptile and flabebe

I don't really mind it because it looks sweet in battle and if it's the work of satan that's better than eating souls out and stuff, as for the child friendly, in pokemon B2/W2 Ghetsis literally tried to kill you. And something that relates to torimian and the King of kalos, maybe knights used those as weapons? xD As for slowpoke and shellder does that thing on the tail look like a shellder? And why does it move up to the head?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 25th, 2013 1:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BlahISuck (Post 7849265)
Doublade bwahahahaha. That is all. Seriously, multiplying up Pokemon evolutions is starting to get old. Would've been cool if they were sword and shield, with an interesting backstory like Slowpoke and Shellder.

Well only Gen 1, and Gen 5 really did it (Gen 3 sort of did but Metagross can be forgetable as it was unique in that it didn't have multiple heads xD), and now 6 so 3/6 isn't really very old. However it's not very creative either to have them in the first place...

Pinkie-Dawn September 25th, 2013 1:46 PM

Welp, it looks like Honedge is going to be the Magnemite of Gen VI based on its evolution.

Treecko September 25th, 2013 2:53 PM

Well that was unexpected, not exactly the evolution I was thinking they'd reveal. Honestly was hoping for a Helioptle evo. Doublade is alright looking I guess, I was expecting something cooler for Honedge's evolution but this isn't too bad...I guess. Like Mageneton and Klinklang all over though, they just added another Honedge and extended it's design a bit.

Though a more of a positive note, I noticed one person on their Facebook page noted it looks like a coat of arms:
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What's to hate? If you look closely, it's based off of a Coat of Arms. It's state of existence can be explained by it's typing, and if you ask me, it's typing alone reminds me of old Horror movies. This thing is awesome, and anybody who thinks otherwise doesn't think about the immunities it has, the fact it goes with the Poke-France theme, or the fact Magneton is outclassed by this thing due to logic. This thing came to be from two swords which were near people as they died in battle, in which they absorbed some spiritual essence. That's far more reasonable than the non-existent backstory to how Magnemites came to be. Where Magnemites and Magnetons made by extraterrestrials? Man? A rogue computer program gone wrong? Some strange form of natural life? None of that is explained. I'm not saying Magneton sucks, I have a shiny level 66 one on my White 2, and it does a great job at knocking out a lot of stuff. I'm just saying at least Doublade has a back story, and a rather haunting one at that
This explanation makes me like it a bit more. If you notice it has sort of a shield thing behind it. At least if it evolves more into a coat of arms , then I'd love it more.

iRyahn September 25th, 2013 3:13 PM

Was definetly hoping for Helioptile or Bunnelby evolution.
I don't think it's a bad design but.. it just doesn't interest me. I never liked Honedge to begin with (sorry guys!) but I will admit Doublade is better looking. Even so I can't find myself to care about this.


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