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HaphazardAsylum October 6th, 2013 4:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bobandbill (Post 7867241)
Quite correct. Hackers found out about those moves before B2W2 were even announced as data for it was found within the game code for BW. While this time around hackers won't be able to do anything with a dumped rom for at least a good while, the point still stands - if they want to bring in new things within the same gen such as moves or Pokemon, data for it needs to exist with X&Y.
The 3DS should be better than the PSP. But that doesn't bypass the fact that a game will simply be unable to show the player a Pokemon if there is no data within it for said Pokemon. And said data is required in trades and wifi battles. And to hide a large number of Pokemon within X&Y to be revealed only in later games is a very strange choice for them to make, you have to agree. Mega forms, perhaps, but brand new Pokemon? It's really a big stretch to make.

Frankly, one is just going to have to accept that we have 'only' 70 new Pokemon. That's not a small number in itself - just smaller than previous generations. And that's excluding mega forms, and excluding event Pokemon, the only ones which have been traditionally hidden away. This time though for a change, we actually won't know about them for some time!

i think the reason for 70 is partly to do with 3D and to put the spotlight on the mega Pokemon.

Sun October 6th, 2013 4:24 AM

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Originally Posted by deku (Post 7867245)
Has there been a picture confirming Florges' type/stats? Or an Amie close up?

Also, the few new pokemon is kind of refreshing.. It won't be so difficult to choose a team like it was in B/W. Also, I won't feel as pressured to use all new Pokemon, which will give me a chance to use my favorite old Pokemon with Megas or rectonned types (or both!).

A few images from the older pages said she's pure Fairy.
As I know there are no stats and PokeAmie related leaks for Florges.

Hikamaru October 6th, 2013 4:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Makoto Tachibana (Post 7867231)
Here are the mugshots of Kalos Gym Leaders:

Wow they look so amazing, and nice to see they evened out the genders here again. I always felt that some regions had way more male Gym Leaders compared to females. Last time I recall a region had even genders with the Gym Leaders was Sinnoh. I'm loving the Ice Gym Leader's name, it looks pretty cool, and Valerie and Olympia are very beautiful names as well. So yeah I loved the choice of names here.

Although I am annoyed that 3 of the badges have such boring names, the Bug, Fairy and Psychic badges. This sorta shows Game Freak may have run out of ideas or something.

Also, I noticed part of Valerie (the Fairy Gym Leader)'s outfit resembles Audino's ears.

BeefTaco October 6th, 2013 4:29 AM

Here's Florges stats. Also a new Fairy TM move.




Hikamaru October 6th, 2013 4:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BeefTaco (Post 7867257)
Here's Florges stats. Also a new Fairy TM move.




So Florges has pretty weak stats, but the one shown in the pic was only at Level 19 anyway. I wonder how they managed to fully evolve their Flabebe that early? Unless if she needs a stone to become Florges that is. Also, the stats appear to show she mainly specializes in special-based stats. Has Flower Veil as an ability, which was revealed when Flabebe's stats were leaked. Also Florges is revealed to learn Fairy Wind, Razor Leaf, Vine Whip and Lucky Chant. Bit surprised she gets a few Grass attacks despite not being part-Grass but I guess it's because the line is associated with flowers.

And Dazzling Gleam is TM99 as shown in the screenshot there, 80 power isn't that bad at all. So it looks like it can do some decently good damage there. It looks like they are expanding the TM list again this generation since I haven't seen any TM numbered TM99 before.

BeefTaco October 6th, 2013 4:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikari10 (Post 7867266)
So Florges has pretty weak stats, but the one shown in the pic was only at Level 19 anyway. I wonder how they managed to fully evolve their Flabebe that early? Unless if she needs a stone to become Florges that is. Also, the stats appear to show she mainly specializes in special-based stats. Has Flower Veil as an ability, which was revealed when Flabebe's stats were leaked. Also Florges is revealed to learn Fairy Wind, Razor Leaf, Vine Whip and Lucky Chant. Bit surprised she gets a few Grass attacks despite not being part-Grass but I guess it's because the line is associated with flowers.

And Dazzling Gleam is TM99 as shown in the screenshot there, 80 power isn't that bad at all. So it looks like it can do some decently good damage there. It looks like they are expanding the TM list again this generation since I haven't seen any TM numbered TM99 before.

Yeah it is pretty low level so its hard to tell, someone said it would actually have very good Sp. Defense according to this. I wonder how this pokemon evolves if its already in its final evolution at level 19.

Also something I forgot to mention about Dragalge, it has Poison Point as one of its abilities.

You know I'm very happy the leakers have been quiet about the story elements and the areas. Most of what has been reveal are pokemon.

Hikamaru October 6th, 2013 4:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BeefTaco (Post 7867271)
Yeah it is pretty low level so its hard to tell, someone said it would actually have very good Sp. Defense according to this. I wonder how this pokemon evolves if its already in its final evolution at level 19.

Also something I forgot to mention about Dragalge, it has Poison Point as one of its abilities.

You know I'm very happy the leakers have been quiet about the story elements and the areas. Most of what has been reveal are pokemon.

Maybe they didn't want to leak the story out of respect for those who wanted to do a blind playthrough on their first play of the games. They want them to discover the story themselves. But yeah about the Florges being Level 19, maybe Flabebe evolves at an early level and then Floette evolves with an evolutionary stone, I'm guessing probably the Sun Stone due to Florges looking like a sunflower but yeah I'm betting they had to use a stone to evolve into Florges that early.

Poke_Spirit October 6th, 2013 4:48 AM


Pokemon Z 90% conformed..

BeefTaco October 6th, 2013 4:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikari10 (Post 7867277)
Maybe they didn't want to leak the story out of respect for those who wanted to do a blind playthrough on their first play of the games. They want them to discover the story themselves. But yeah about the Florges being Level 19, maybe Flabebe evolves at an early level and then Floette evolves with an evolutionary stone, I'm guessing probably the Sun Stone due to Florges looking like a sunflower but yeah I'm betting they had to use a stone to evolve into Florges that early.

Yeah that seems to be the case with Florges, I heard there was a store that sold evolutionary stones in the game.

Sun October 6th, 2013 4:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikari10 (Post 7867256)
Wow they look so amazing, and nice to see they evened out the genders here again. I always felt that some regions had way more male Gym Leaders compared to females. Last time I recall a region had even genders with the Gym Leaders was Sinnoh. I'm loving the Ice Gym Leader's name, it looks pretty cool, and Valerie and Olympia are very beautiful names as well. So yeah I loved the choice of names here.

Although I am annoyed that 3 of the badges have such boring names, the Bug, Fairy and Psychic badges. This sorta shows Game Freak may have run out of ideas or something.

Also, I noticed part of Valerie (the Fairy Gym Leader)'s outfit resembles Audino's ears.

I love Valerie's hairdo looks simple but cute. :D
Olympia's name is a bit unoriginal in my opinion, so as the badge she gives away. :/
I have to agree! 'Wulfric' sounds awesome, I'm expecting a Bishōnen with that name like Volkner. :(
Ramos looks like your average gardener out there and reminds me of the Janitors in Gen V. lol

Fairy Badge should Celestial Badge instead, I have no better idea for Bug and Psychic Badge. :(

Hikamaru October 6th, 2013 5:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BeefTaco (Post 7867287)
Yeah that seems to be the case with Florges, I heard there was a store that sold evolutionary stones in the game.

Yeah I think you're right, the leaker might have gotten a stone from there and evolved their Floette with it.

Forrest Gump October 6th, 2013 5:03 AM

Am I the only one who;
A) Thinks 70 is okay, with the amount of Megas and retypes and everything we've gotten.
B) Doesn't think there will be a Pokemon Z.

Poke_Spirit October 6th, 2013 5:03 AM

Zygrade stats:

Xerneas and Yveltal have abilities that power up their own moves
Zygarde has an ability that reverses them

Groudon and Kyogre have abilities that change the weather and power up their own moves
Rayquaza has an ability that negates them

Hoenn remake confirmed

Hikamaru October 6th, 2013 5:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Poke_Spirit (Post 7867299)
Zygrade stats:

Xerneas and Yveltal have abilities that power up their own moves
Zygarde has an ability that reverses them

Groudon and Kyogre have abilities that change the weather and power up their own moves
Rayquaza has an ability that negates them

Hoenn remake confirmed

Hahahaha I see what you did there.

But still, those are some beastly good stats indeed. Zygarde appears to have high Defense going by what we're seeing here, with some good Attack and Speed coming in not far behind. It's only a bit lacking in the special stats there.

It's revealed to learn Crunch, Earthquake, Camouflage and Dragon Pulse.

JayTheKing October 6th, 2013 5:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Poke_Spirit (Post 7867299)
Zygrade stats:

Xerneas and Yveltal have abilities that power up their own moves
Zygarde has an ability that reverses them

Groudon and Kyogre have abilities that change the weather and power up their own moves
Rayquaza has an ability that negates them

Hoenn remake confirmed

Not only negates them but reverses them which means it will make the moves weaker!
So no words about the Hoenn Hints yet?

Suicune October 6th, 2013 5:14 AM

I'm still happy with the number of Pokémon revealed. There's cuties, creepies, creatures that made me double-take. *Chestnaut+Binacle*

Although the number of Pokémon and variety is a key adjustment with each generation, I'm more in love and excited with the new introduction of all the different features. Character customization, Pokémon Amie, the new routes, gyms, items, TYPE! Competitive battling will be even more fun alongside the Megas. (Especially once Pokémon Bank hits in December)

Hikamaru October 6th, 2013 5:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JayTheKing (Post 7867310)
Not only negates them but reverses them which means it will make the moves weaker!
So no words about the Hoenn Hints yet?

Well apparently our proud mod Joe (aka Suicune™) posted a piece of leaked dialogue a few days back and it said something about the Hoenn region, about "you'll see it in due time" which sorta is making us to believe we may get Ruby & Sapphire remakes sometime this generation.

Here is the post by good old Joe that I was talking about here.

Poke_Spirit October 6th, 2013 5:20 AM

Xerneas is the life pokemon, life is on earth
Yveltal is the death pokemon, the afterlife your soul goes to the sky
Zygrade the Order pokemon, in between, the Isthmus life is in underground.

I.T. October 6th, 2013 5:32 AM

Am I the only one that's kinda glad they might be only introducing <90 PKMN this gen? Gen 5 had lots of forgettable PKMN and they introduced 150+ of the little guys. They can't just keeping adding more PKMN to expand the franchise guys.

And I'm DEFINITELY happy that the legendary PKMN this gen will be a small amount rather than 10+ *sides eyes to gen's 5 and 4 legendary PKMN*

blue October 6th, 2013 5:37 AM

I for one am very happy to see them introduce a contolled amount of Pokémon, introducing 100+ every generation makes some of the Kalos Pokémon forgettable. Since Kalos has introduced just 70 new mons' it's much easier to memorize and capture them all.

Haza October 6th, 2013 5:38 AM

So happy with the new Poison/Dragon!

BeefTaco October 6th, 2013 5:39 AM

Yeah I kinda see the relation between the 3 legends, Zygarde basically keeps Xerneas and Yveltal on check so they don't overdo their roles of Creating and Destroying. I can very much see a Zygarde having another form, as the description suggest Zygarde dwells on a cave monitoring the world in a sort of passive form. It could be the case that either Xerneas or Yveltal go out of control and Zygarde has to intervene to regain Order. I don't expect this in X and Y though maybe in the next Kalos game.

Sun October 6th, 2013 5:43 AM

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Originally Posted by IAm2Sarcastic4U (Post 7867345)
Am I the only one that's kinda glad they might be only introducing <90 PKMN this gen? Gen 5 had lots of forgettable PKMN and they introduced 150+ of the little guys. They can't just keeping adding more PKMN to expand the franchise guys.

And I'm DEFINITELY happy that the legendary PKMN this gen will be a small amount rather than 10+ *sides eyes to gen's 5 and 4 legendary PKMN*

Yes when you think about it, actually It's not that bad we have only 70.
That way we can explore more favorites from the older Gens, as well not letting Gen VI mons take too much spotlight! {XD}

Thank you so much! You reminded me why Togekiss, Yanmega, Electivire and Magmortar became one of my favorites! :')

Hikamaru October 6th, 2013 5:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7867353)
I for one am very happy to see them introduce a contolled amount of Pokémon, introducing 100+ every generation makes some of the Kalos Pokémon forgettable. Since Kalos has introduced just 70 new mons' it's much easier to memorize and capture them all.

You know I think that's one of the benefits for just 70 new Pokemon. There won't be as much forgettable Pokemon.

Pinkie-Dawn October 6th, 2013 5:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7867353)
I for one am very happy to see them introduce a contolled amount of Pokémon, introducing 100+ every generation makes some of the Kalos Pokémon forgettable. Since Kalos has introduced just 70 new mons' it's much easier to memorize and capture them all.

But introducing 100+ new Pokémon is the whole point of new gen games. What's the point of catching them all if they only introduced less than 100, making it less challenging to try collecting them all? Besides, you'll still find forgettable Pokémon even with 70 new mons.

Hikamaru October 6th, 2013 5:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 7867366)
But introducing 100+ new Pokémon is the whole point of new gen games. What's the point of catching them all if they only introduced less than 100, making it less challenging to try collecting them all? Besides, you'll still find forgettable Pokémon even with 70 new mons.

Yeah, if you look at all the Kalos Pokemon, they don't have any relation to old Pokemon except for Sylveon. They were definitely pulling a Unova there, or close to it because almost all the new Kalos Pokemon don't have any evos/pre-evos of older Pokemon, sorta like what they did with all the Unova Pokemon. Interestingly enough, both Kalos and Unova aren't based on Japan.

Sun October 6th, 2013 5:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 7867366)
But introducing 100+ new Pokémon is the whole point of new gen games. What's the point of catching them all if they only introduced less than 100, making it less challenging to try collecting them all? Besides, you'll still find forgettable Pokémon even with 70 new mons.

I guess most of us are taking +100 for granted.
Now's the Generation that we learn to appreciate both old and new Pokémon! ^^

Hikamaru October 6th, 2013 5:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Makoto Tachibana (Post 7867374)
I guess most of us are taking +100 for granted.
Now's the Generation that we learn to appreciate both old and new Pokémon! ^^

Yeah they're doing a great job balancing out both the new and old Pokemon here, probably to appeal to older gamers.

Blastin'Tyruntz October 6th, 2013 5:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikari10 (Post 7867221)
Yeah, and we never even expected these games to be on the 3DS either even when some say they wanted an actual 3D main Pokemon game, and turns out we got our wish for a main Pokemon game in full 3D. In fact, they didn't do very bad with the graphics at all here thanks to that nice amount of cel-shading they did.



Yeah I see what you mean, me and Makoto were talking about possible things we could see for the next generation, even what countries they might base the next region on. There's like a good variety of not just tough-looking Pokemon, but also the cute ones, and we have some that appeal more to the female audience, like most of the Fairy-types or some of the cute Pokemon.

I can see what you mean. If you want a place to make a gen out of is Dubai...I don't live there but i know people who do and it is a developed country who could easily be mistaken as western. Abu-Dabi is beautiful and it has the highest building in the world...I'm sure GF can pull something off. And, with all the introduction of a lot of Grass and Poison types, Ground, Dark, Steel and Rock can get some love too-the whole country is in a desert! I am 100% positive that if they do base a game off of Dubai, we will see the return of the underground, maybe explore some more caves and less routes. It could be a nice change. And the evil team could be a group of drifters, who travel in the desert and straling lost people's pokemon...they could be like team Sandstorm or something!

What do you think?

Suicune October 6th, 2013 5:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 7867366)
But introducing 100+ new Pokémon is the whole point of new gen games. What's the point of catching them all if they only introduced less than 100, making it less challenging to try collecting them all? Besides, you'll still find forgettable Pokémon even with 70 new mons.

I think this generation was more focused on Mega Evolutions (being their secret) rather than new Pokémon. They still kept the point of the game by having a variety of new faces, enough to satisfy in my opinion, and there's still three regions of the Pokédex to fill. There's plenty of Pokémon to catch and challenge yourself even if they are from later generations. It's going to be a few months before we can transfer, so it wouldn't hurt and can still be enjoyable to take the time and have fun filling the dex again.

I'm still curious about Kalos' connection to Unova and the Hoenn reference.

Mana October 6th, 2013 5:55 AM

IMO it's good to have fewer pokemon - each generation added quality pokémon, but it also added typical clones.

Do we need another Geodude? No? No more Rock/Grounds - hurrah.

Do we need another Normal/Flying? No? We got something different for a change.

A legendary trio? Again, they were just there as filler legendaries with no real purpose. Random legendaries waiting in caves are also rubbish.

The fact that there is a choice of 450 Pokémon is fantastic and amazing, I really don't get why people are so hung up on this 'only' 70 thing.

Sweets Witch October 6th, 2013 5:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikari10 (Post 7867373)
Yeah, if you look at all the Kalos Pokemon, they don't have any relation to old Pokemon except for Sylveon. They were definitely pulling a Unova there, or close to it because almost all the new Kalos Pokemon don't have any evos/pre-evos of older Pokemon, sorta like what they did with all the Unova Pokemon. Interestingly enough, both Kalos and Unova aren't based on Japan.

Wouldn't the better example be Hoenn? Hoenn introduced Azurill but that was its only link to previous gens, like how Kalos introduced Sylveon.

Edit: And Wynaut too but that just makes 2.

Pinkie-Dawn October 6th, 2013 5:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Hibicakes (Post 7867382)
I think this generation was more focused on Mega Evolutions (being their secret) rather than new Pokémon. They still kept the point of the game by having a variety of new faces, enough to satisfy in my opinion, and there's still three regions of the Pokédex to fill. There's plenty of Pokémon to catch and challenge yourself even if they are from later generations. It's going to be a few months before we can transfer, so it wouldn't hurt and can still be enjoyable to take the time and have fun filling the dex again.

I'm still curious about Kalos' connection to Unova and the Hoenn reference.

But I still wanted GF to give us at least 100 new Pokémon to make me satisfied, because all this focus on the older Pokémon can be a bad thing, as it'll overshadow the new guys, who are suppose to be main focus. They did it right with Gen V by having no old Pokémon until post-game up until its sequel, thus giving us the same experience we had with the first games.

James169 October 6th, 2013 5:58 AM

Tbh I'm not massively bothered by the number of new pokemon this gen although I probably would have preferred a few more, this I because I never got to play gen v and I can catch such a variety in this game

blue October 6th, 2013 6:01 AM

If Kalos is such a big Region that requires three split up areas each containing a specific handful of Pokémon, then I'd rather the abundance of that amount of Pokémon to contain older generational Pokémon rather than 150+ new Pokémon. Introducing 70 Pokémon is not too small but not too large, and in my opinion it's about time they toned down on the amount of Pokémon being introduced. We would've surpassed the 800 figure if they kept to the same trend they have set for every generation, 719 is a nice total amount of Pokémon.

It doesn't remove the focus from the new Pokémon if they have past regional Pokémon in the mix, if a player encounters an old Pokémon sure it's interesting but it's not what they're looking for, a new generation means new Pokémon and that is what players are solely looking for in these games regardless of how many there are.

Hikamaru October 6th, 2013 6:04 AM

Okay I found this on Tumblr, someone there claims that Vivillon's wing color depends on version:

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It is related to the version is played. Polar Pattern is the Y version and X is the disco-ball version. But, we haven’t had any official leaks of Vivillion from an X version so, this can be unaccurate. Both male and females get a blue colour in Y version, unless it is related that they both evolved at night…
According to this statement, they said that the pink Vivillon (apparently called Disco-Ball Pattern, the one we first saw back in June) might be exclusive to X, while the blue one (known as the Polar Pattern) might be exclusive to Y. Although they think it could have depended on time of day as well. Do you think Vivillon's different colored wings may be version-exclusive or not?

Pinkie-Dawn October 6th, 2013 6:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7867395)
If Kalos is such a big Region that requires three split up areas each containing a specific handful of Pokémon, then I'd rather the abundance of that amount of Pokémon to contain older generational Pokémon rather than 150+ new Pokémon. Introducing 70 Pokémon is not too small but not too large, and in my opinion it's about time they toned down on the amount of Pokémon being introduced. We would've surpassed the 800 figure if they kept to the same trend they have set for every generation, 719 is a nice total amount of Pokémon.

It doesn't remove the focus from the new Pokémon if they have past regional Pokémon in the mix, if a player encounters an old Pokémon sure it's interesting but it's not what they're looking for, a new generation means new Pokémon and that is what players are solely looking for in these games regardless of how many there are.

Except 719 really isn't, because it's an odd number. It's really uncomfortable for a total number to end at an odd number, unless it's a 5 digit number. The benefit of introducing 100+ new Pokémon is to diversify certain types that currently in the low numbers (there aren't that many Ghost, Dragon, Steel, Ice, and Rock types in the national dex, and there's too many Normal, Grass, and Water types), so that's why need more filler Pokémon such as those Geodude clones you've mentioned. All 18 types must be equally balanced in terms of numbers.

JindleBrey October 6th, 2013 6:13 AM

Does Skrelp need to be traded to evolve or is it normal leveling up?

bobandbill October 6th, 2013 6:13 AM

I hope not, I'd prefer being able to control it, or at least get either-or in whatever game I choose. Polar form is nicer.
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But introducing 100+ new Pokémon is the whole point of new gen games. What's the point of catching them all if they only introduced less than 100, making it less challenging to try collecting them all? Besides, you'll still find forgettable Pokémon even with 70 new mons.
As I said in VM, there is nothing that says that it is actually the whole point of new gen games, beyond your personal opinion. Besides, you say that as if collection 700+ unique monsters is an easy thing to do in the first place. @[email protected] Another 70 is not making it significantly easier.

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Except 719 really isn't, because it's an odd number. It's really uncomfortable for a total number to end at an odd number, unless it's a 5 digit number.
Uh...
>151
>251
or even more recently
>649

This was never an issue.
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All 18 types must be equally balanced in terms of numbers.
This has also never been the case, and would especially not be the case when they've added a new type now too. Fairy was always going to get the majority of focus over other types.

Sun October 6th, 2013 6:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7867395)
If Kalos is such a big Region that requires three split up areas each containing a specific handful of Pokémon, then I'd rather the abundance of that amount of Pokémon to contain older generational Pokémon rather than 150+ new Pokémon. Introducing 70 Pokémon is not too small but not too large, and in my opinion it's about time they toned down on the amount of Pokémon being introduced. We would've surpassed the 800 figure if they kept to the same trend they have set for every generation, 719 is a nice total amount of Pokémon.

It doesn't remove the focus from the new Pokémon if they have past regional Pokémon in the mix, if a player encounters an old Pokémon sure it's interesting but it's not what they're looking for, a new generation means new Pokémon and that is what players are solely looking for in these games regardless of how many there are.

One can see this gimmick as re-introducing old Pokemon to new players,
as well as introducing Gen III to V Pokemon for those who left the franchise after Gen II. {:3}

I once saw kids who thought old Pokemon like Dunsparce as "new Pokemon"?
I was like "What? Are you kidding?" in my mind, isn't that sad when you think about it? -_-

JindleBrey October 6th, 2013 6:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 7867405)
Except 719 really isn't, because it's an odd number.

That sounds a bit like OCD :)

Zorogami October 6th, 2013 6:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 7867405)
Except 719 really isn't, because it's an odd number. It's really uncomfortable for a total number to end at an odd number, unless it's a 5 digit number.

well, i'm pretty sure every gen has had an odd number of pokemon??
Gen 1 had 151, Gen 3 had 349 i think, and most recently BW had 649....

I wish they introduced more Ghost and Electric types. those seem to be, besides dragons, the types that get the least new amount of pokemon. i would especially love to see some new Electric pokemon with a new cool type combo, like maybe electric/dark or electric/fighting!

BeefTaco October 6th, 2013 6:15 AM

I got over the fact that there's only 70 pokemon last night. I just realized that's more that enough pokemon when you really think about it. I think the problem is that since we already knew quite a few pokemon the 30 or so revealed pokemon felt really minimal. Also guys lets not forget the fact that this is probably gonna be a better pokemon game than the previous ones with all the new features and improvements they have added for both Casuals and Competitive players.

We are seeing the Pokemon handheld world in 3D for the first time, I don't know about you guys but Im excited to see my favorite pokemon in this game (Darkrai, Feraligatr, Hitmolee). There's also all the move animations we haven't seen. When you look at all the positives it kinda makes you forget the amount of new pokemon which in my opinion is actually ok.

Mana October 6th, 2013 6:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 7867405)
Except 719 really isn't, because it's an odd number. It's really uncomfortable for a total number to end at an odd number, unless it's a 5 digit number. The benefit of introducing 100+ new Pokémon is to diversify certain types that currently in the low numbers (there aren't that many Ghost, Dragon, Steel, Ice, and Rock types in the national dex, and there's too many Normal, Grass, and Water types), so that's why need more filler Pokémon such as those Geodude clones you've mentioned. All 18 types must be equally balanced in terms of numbers.

So you want filler pokemon just for balance?...

There are three new ghost families, two new ice families, a plethora of dragon types, etc. Other than the abundance of grass types these new editions are balancing the types. The reason for so many grass types is probably because many are underused or ignored anyway.

Suicune October 6th, 2013 6:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 7867390)
But I still wanted GF to give us at least 100 new Pokémon to make me satisfied, because all this focus on the older Pokémon can be a bad thing, as it'll overshadow the new guys, who are suppose to be main focus. They did it right with Gen V by having no old Pokémon until post-game up until its sequel, thus giving us the same experience we had with the first games.

I guess I understand; and the announcement that none of the Kalos region Pokémon will be getting a Mega Evolution doesn't help on the their stand-out, but I'm hoping their stats will. I'm sure once the games release they will be as mingled as the other generations are. (rather than shadowed)

This is also a stretch, but maybe they will do it backwards where there are tons of old Pokémon to reminisce and introduce the Kalos secret of evolution, while the sequel(s) focus on a new stream of another 15+ Pokémon. I'm not sure how that would work, but I'm sure they will figure out something if it seems to be a problem. XD

blue October 6th, 2013 6:22 AM

Just out of curiosity though, is Cynthia in-game? She's been in all games since her introduction in Diamond & Pearl so I'd expect to see her make some sort of cameo appearance.

jellotime91 October 6th, 2013 6:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Makoto Tachibana (Post 7867190)
It just shows Game Freak's weakness more -- they are bad at making 3D stuff. :/

Abomasnow has Snow Warning since its debut, and I don't find it intimidating -- Mega or not.
Despite its Mega looking handsome, but the stats are still unimpressive. :(

I don't think they are bad at 3D AT ALL! This game is gorgeous.

Pinkie-Dawn October 6th, 2013 6:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Magic Fox (Post 7867417)
So you want filler pokemon just for balance?...

There are three new ghost families, two new ice families, a plethora of dragon types, etc. Other than the abundance of grass types these new editions are balancing the types. The reason for so many grass types is probably because many are underused or ignored anyway.

Two new Ice lines isn't good enough, there needs to be more, because another reason to diversify certain types is to help diversify teams for Gym Leaders and Elite Four members, so none of them won't have to share each other's sig Pokémon for their own team (Ex: Agatha should be the only Ghost specialist to use a Gengar in her team, for it's her signature Pokémon).

Sun October 6th, 2013 6:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7867422)
Just out of curiosity though, is Cynthia in-game? She's been in all games since her introduction in Diamond & Pearl so I'd expect to see her make some sort of cameo appearance.

I swear Cynthia will one day ended up as one of the future protagonists' mother. {XD}
Ahem! Back to the main topic, it is interesting how Cynthia mentioned that she's from somewhere far away and not from Unova. Maybe... ^^

PlatinumDude October 6th, 2013 6:32 AM

So Zyrgarde is the anti-Xerneas/Yveltal, given its ability, even though it's still weak to Xerneas' Fairy STAB. It does have an easier time with Yveltal, though, as it can spam its Dragon STAB against it.

HaphazardAsylum October 6th, 2013 6:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 7867405)
Except 719 really isn't, because it's an odd number. It's really uncomfortable for a total number to end at an odd number, unless it's a 5 digit number. The benefit of introducing 100+ new Pokémon is to diversify certain types that currently in the low numbers (there aren't that many Ghost, Dragon, Steel, Ice, and Rock types in the national dex, and there's too many Normal, Grass, and Water types), so that's why need more filler Pokémon such as those Geodude clones you've mentioned. All 18 types must be equally balanced in terms of numbers.

not to mention you cant divide 719 into 3 so either each dex has different amounts of pokemon or the 3 dexes dont matter post game

Ghost Lunis October 6th, 2013 6:35 AM

As I skim through this thread I see people getting sore over the lack of new pokemon. I wonder where all these people have been? This is the way even numbered generations always go.
Odd numbered generation games get a crap ton of new pokemon. Look at the first game( obviously) hoenn, and unova. They were filled with new pokemon.
Now look at the even numbered generations. Gen 2 had a new type, new eeveelutions, and new evolutions for already established pokemon. Gen 4 had new ways of evolving pokemon like through knowing a certain move or being in a certain location. Also it had tons of new evolutions for already established pokemon. Now gen 6 has a new type, new eeveelution, and new methods for "evolving"( mega evolution)

So in other words, what we are seeing with this gen is nothing new but a well established trend.
Thank you and sorry I just had to vent that after a long time of not being around.

Suicune October 6th, 2013 6:37 AM

Cynthia isn't from Sinnoh?

Also, one thing that threw me off a bit is what seems to be a lack of standby animation in battle. I know I've been thinking about PBR too much and shouldn't be comparing a Wii's animation to a 3DS, but I was a little surprised to see the double-battle involving Rhyperior, Ampharos, Politoed, etc. where they have quite a bit of motion in PBR but stand rather still in XY.

It's no big deal to me at all. I just happen to notice and miss the pumped animations.

Hikamaru October 6th, 2013 6:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7867422)
Just out of curiosity though, is Cynthia in-game? She's been in all games since her introduction in Diamond & Pearl so I'd expect to see her make some sort of cameo appearance.

No I haven't seen any hint towards her appearing based on what I've seen so far. Also, it's interesting to know that Kalos is the third region in a row to have a female Champion, after Cynthia (Sinnoh) and Iris (Unova, in B2/W2 only).

Pinkie-Dawn October 6th, 2013 6:41 AM

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Originally Posted by lunis (Post 7867450)
As I skim through this thread I see people getting sore over the lack of new pokemon. I wonder where all these people have been? This is the way even numbered generations always go.
Odd numbered generation games get a crap ton of new pokemon. Look at the first game( obviously) hoenn, and unova. They were filled with new pokemon.
Now look at the even numbered generations. Gen 2 had a new type, new eeveelutions, and new evolutions for already established pokemon. Gen 4 had new ways of evolving pokemon like through knowing a certain move or being in a certain location. Also it had tons of new evolutions for already established pokemon. Now gen 6 has a new type, new eeveelution, and new methods for "evolving"( mega evolution)

So in other words, what we are seeing with this gen is nothing new but a well established trend.
Thank you and sorry I just had to vent that after a long time of not being around.

The main problem with Kalos' number is because the previous even-numbered gens introduced at least 100 new Pokémon, but this even-numbered gen only introduced only 70 rather than the expected 100+. We thought there was going to be 105 new mons due to how the previous two regional dexes for Kalos each contained 35 new mons, but that wasn't the case.

blue October 6th, 2013 6:42 AM

Another Hoenn reference, and this one is less subtle;

"There is some old people who say they are celebrating there 40th anniversary they even say that it's there Ruby anniversary, they also mention that 45 years would be the Sapphire anniversary."

Apparently this is some dialogue from an elderly couple in Pokémon X and Y, although not confirmed I think this is something worthy of a mention atleast.

Hikamaru October 6th, 2013 6:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Hibicakes (Post 7867453)
Cynthia isn't from Sinnoh?

Also, one thing that threw me off a bit is what seems to be a lack of standby animation in battle. I know I've been thinking about PBR too much and shouldn't be comparing a Wii's animation to a 3DS, but I was a little surprised to see the double-battle involving Rhyperior, Ampharos, Politoed, etc. where they have quite a bit of motion in PBR but stand rather still in XY.

It's no big deal to me at all. I just happen to notice and miss the pumped animations.

Well, going by what we've seen in the trailers and various videos of game footage, the 3D models still have some idle motion in battle. It's just not as lively as the ones in Battle Revolution.

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7867463)
Another Hoenn reference, and this one is less subtle;

"There is some old people who say they are celebrating there 40th anniversary they even say that it's there Ruby anniversary, they also mention that 45 years would be the Sapphire anniversary."

Apparently this is some dialogue from an elderly couple in Pokémon X and Y, although not confirmed I think this is something worthy of a mention at least.

Wow another reference to the fact we may get Ruby & Sapphire remakes, but this time they actually mention the words "Ruby" and "Sapphire". I'm starting to believe the Hoenn Confirmed jokes I've been seeing are proven to be getting even more true so no surprise if we do hear an announcement for the remakes sometime.

HaphazardAsylum October 6th, 2013 6:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7867463)
Another Hoenn reference, and this one is less subtle;

"There is some old people who say they are celebrating there 40th anniversary they even say that it's there Ruby anniversary, they also mention that 45 years would be the Sapphire anniversary."

Apparently this is some dialogue from an elderly couple in Pokémon X and Y, although not confirmed I think this is something worthy of a mention atleast.

if that is in the game i think its likelier that its just them trolling people lol

Forrest Gump October 6th, 2013 6:48 AM

I wish they just introduced more Ground types. All we have is Diggersby and the legendary. The legendary is post-game, right? And Diggersby is just ugly to me, but looks like I'll pick one up...

HaphazardAsylum October 6th, 2013 6:50 AM

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Originally Posted by idankingo (Post 7867473)
Qouting myself here because i really like my idea and i really do want people to be more creative and positive and less sore. So.............................ANSWER ME GOD DAMN IT! Is my idea good or not?

dubai would be cool i may be biased a bit but id like to see UK/ROI as there could be a huge diversity not to mention Ireland is one of my favourite places so a game based around that and pulling from its history would be amazing, there'd be obvious trope esque pokemon like a leprechaun inspired one but i'd be cool with that

Hikamaru October 6th, 2013 6:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Forrest Gump (Post 7867480)
I wish they just introduced more Ground types. All we have is Diggersby and the legendary. The legendary is post-game, right? And Diggersby is just ugly to me, but looks like I'll pick one up...

Yeah I feel weird the only non-Legendary Ground-type this generation is the evolution of the resident Rattata clone. But still, it's funny we've only got one new Poison-type line (Skrelp line) and one new Bug-type line (Scatterbug line). Yeah there seems to be a huge lack of certain types if you're looking at just the new Kalos Pokemon alone.

BeefTaco October 6th, 2013 6:52 AM

This might be to early for some of you guys but design wise what are your top 5 pokemon of this gen?

My Top 5 are:

5. Clawitizer: Blue is my favorite color and I've always like crustacean pokemon, add a HUGE arm cannon and you win me over.

4. Xerneas: One of the reason I'm getting Pokemon X is this guy, the design is just so original and beautiful.

3. Slugdra: Is ok if is not Dragon/Poison we got Dragalge for that. I really like the design, is not really your average Pseudo legend. I'm very interested to see how this pokemon performs competively.

2. Tyrantrum: It's a T-Rex no more to say.

1. Aegislash: Without a doubt my favorite. The whole design of sword and shield and the difference when it changes stance really baffled me. I can't wait to put this pokemon on my team.

Honorable mentions

Greninja: Can't forget my ninja frog can't we.

Trevenant: Im a really big fan of Ghost pokemon and Trevenant is a great design.

Kerjo October 6th, 2013 6:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Famon (Post 7867199)
If I know Hinduism correctly then ''Shiva'' is Man with long hair & A snake wrap around his neck .
''Brahma'' is a old man with 3 face's .
And ''Vishnu'' is a Young Man who usually say on a clamp .
However ,
Xerneas , Yveltal and Zygarde look nothing like it .
Xerneas is a Deer , Yveltal is a giant Bird & Zygarde is some sort of Big Worm .
As For ''Life & Death'' Theory , a lot of religion has then story

I am very aware of that, this again was pure speculation that was cool and matched up. What he was looking at was the names "Life, Destruction, and Order" and how they fit with Brahma, Shiva, and Vishnu.

(And look at Final Fantasy, Shiva has never once assumed his correct form.)

Skrelp's decision to go from poison/water to poison/dragon makes me happy in the sense that he can officially be called Horsea's cousin...but now I have no water type on my team. CURSESSS!

Hikamaru October 6th, 2013 6:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JindleBrey (Post 7867407)
Does Skrelp need to be traded to evolve or is it normal leveling up?

Normal leveling up I believe, since it's supposed to be the counterpart to Clauncher who was also revealed to evolve via level.

dreamcatcher October 6th, 2013 6:56 AM

So the snail and peacock that were supposedly "leaked" on Instagram have been proven to be fake, correct?
If I'm not mistaken, the PokéDex in Diamond/Pearl was odd in that the evolutions for previous gen Pokémon came after the game mascots. Does that perhaps mean there's a possibility we'll receive the same previous gen evolutions this generation, just after the legendaries? Having strictly Sylveon as Gen 6's only previous gen evolution just seems odd to me.

Famon October 6th, 2013 6:56 AM

I liked Greninja when he seem to have Spiky knee .
But in Later pic , It turn out Greninja doesn't have a Spiky knee .
I was Disappointed !!1

DarkArcanine October 6th, 2013 6:57 AM

I'm still waiting for Deddenes evo...

And have we seen a tm list yet?

Sabrewulf238 October 6th, 2013 6:58 AM

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Originally Posted by lunis (Post 7867450)
As I skim through this thread I see people getting sore over the lack of new pokemon. I wonder where all these people have been? This is the way even numbered generations always go.
Odd numbered generation games get a crap ton of new pokemon. Look at the first game( obviously) hoenn, and unova. They were filled with new pokemon.
Now look at the even numbered generations. Gen 2 had a new type, new eeveelutions, and new evolutions for already established pokemon. Gen 4 had new ways of evolving pokemon like through knowing a certain move or being in a certain location. Also it had tons of new evolutions for already established pokemon. Now gen 6 has a new type, new eeveelution, and new methods for "evolving"( mega evolution)

So in other words, what we are seeing with this gen is nothing new but a well established trend.
Thank you and sorry I just had to vent that after a long time of not being around.

Even though even numbered gens are known for having low numbers of new pokemon I think people are still justified in their disappointed for a few reasons...

1. 70 is still a fair deal smaller than 100. Even going into this gen with the lowest of expectations for the number of new pokemon, it's likely a lot of people would still feel let down. Let's not even mention those who thought we'd get 130-150 new pokemon. Personally I would have been satisfied with 100. (maybe 90 at a stretch)

2. Game freak officially revealed over 40 new pokemon, over half the number of new pokemon. The last time we had a number like that was Hoenn, which resulted in about 130. It's hardly that surprising that people started to think we'd get a satisfying number of new pokemon.

3. Not really a main reason but well established trends have already been tossed aside this gen so that's not a great argument.

I know I'll still enjoy the games immensely and I'm super excited. That doesn't mean I don't think the number of new pokemon is a little underwhelming though. It's a shame to me because everything else about the games seems completely on the money. Another 20-30 pokemon and it would have been perfect.

jellotime91 October 6th, 2013 6:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Kerjo (Post 7867493)
I am very aware of that, this again was pure speculation that was cool and matched up. What he was looking at was the names "Life, Destruction, and Order" and how they fit with Brahma, Shiva, and Vishnu.

(And look at Final Fantasy, Shiva has never once assumed his correct form.)

Skrelp's decision to go from poison/water to poison/dragon makes me happy in the sense that he can officially be called Horsea's cousin...but now I have no water type on my team. CURSESSS!

Same!!! I really wanted that water STAB...

Hikamaru October 6th, 2013 7:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkArcanine (Post 7867506)
I'm still waiting for Deddenes evo...

And have we seen a tm list yet?

Dedenne doesn't evolve sadly, like all the other Pikaclones of the last few generations.

And no I haven't seen a TM list yet, but they will be expanding it past 95 this generation because someone leaked a Fairy-type TM called Dazzling Gleam (special-based attack, 10 PP, 100% accuracy, 80 Base Power) which is numbered TM99.

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Originally Posted by jellotime91 (Post 7867513)
Same!!! I really wanted that water STAB...

Whoa wasn't expecting Skrelp to exchange its Water-type for Dragon when it evolves but hey at least we get a new type combination of Poison/Dragon. It is sorta fitting given it's based on the Weedy Sea Dragon. Also, someone mentioned earlier that it gets Poison Point for an ability. Oh, and Dragalge's type combination of Poison/Dragon means we have another Dragon that isn't weak to Fairy-types!

HaphazardAsylum October 6th, 2013 7:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BeefTaco (Post 7867492)
This might be to early for some of you guys but design wise what are your top 5 pokemon of this gen?

My Top 5 are:

5. Clawitizer: Blue is my favorite color and I've always like crustacean pokemon, add a HUGE arm cannon and you win me over.

4. Xerneas: One of the reason I'm getting Pokemon X is this guy, the design is just so original and beautiful.

3. Slugdra: Is ok if is not Dragon/Poison we got Dragalge for that. I really like the design, is not really your average Pseudo legend. I'm very interested to see how this pokemon performs competively.

2. Tyrantrum: It's a T-Rex no more to say.

1. Aegislash: Without a doubt my favorite. The whole design of sword and shield and the difference when it changes stance really baffled me. I can't wait to put this pokemon on my team.

Honorable mentions

Greninja: Can't forget my ninja frog can't we.

Trevenant: Im a really big fan of Ghost pokemon and Trevenant is a great design.

I cant remember all the pokemon and designs but heres my list from what i can remember

5. Aegislash i like its design but i would of preferred it to keep both swords but i like the stance change its not how i imagined it being implemented when i predicted it but its still awesome.

4. Chesnaught i really like his design minus the thing on his head especially from what i have seen in battle.

3. i like pumbkaboo especially its description and the the fact it seems to have 2 sizes intrigues me

2. Tyrantrum again as you said its a T REX.

1. Pangoro i cant explain precisely why i picked him first but something about him and pancham i just LOVE them

MarinoKadame October 6th, 2013 7:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BeefTaco (Post 7867227)
I got news that will make a lot of you happy. Dragalge is Poison/Dragon


Glad I took Y. I would check how Charizard X will be in battle compared to Y if I should trade for it.

Sun October 6th, 2013 7:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dreamcatcher (Post 7867502)
So the snail and peacock that were supposedly "leaked" on Instagram have been proven to be fake, correct?
If I'm not mistaken, the PokéDex in Diamond/Pearl was odd in that the evolutions for previous gen Pokémon came after the game mascots. Does that perhaps mean there's a possibility we'll receive the same previous gen evolutions this generation, just after the legendaries? Having strictly Sylveon as Gen 6's only previous gen evolution just seems odd to me.

I guess you are referring to the purple(?) poison type snail right? It was proven fake.
I have not heard of the peacock, there's a fake penguin tho!


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Originally Posted by DarkArcanine (Post 7867506)
I'm still waiting for Deddenes evo...

And have we seen a tm list yet?

Dedenne is confirmed to be like Pachirisu and Emolga -- No evolutions! So Pikachu's spotlight won't be taken away!

Oh is the Pichu family in Kalos Dex? I did not notice them... {D:}

Famon October 6th, 2013 7:15 AM

Considering Pumbkaboo is based on Jack-O-Lantern , I wanted that type of Pokemon to look like this-

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130302231417/mondaiji-tachi-ga-isekai-kara-kuru-s-desu-yo/images/thumb/f/fb/Episode8_%2839%29.jpg/270px-Episode8_%2839%29.jpg

I have no problem with Pumbkaboo but I have problem with imagining its evolution Gourgeist floating it the Air .

Draqonite October 6th, 2013 7:19 AM

Has it been revealed , if you can rematch gym's and E4 post game yet?

Hikamaru October 6th, 2013 7:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Makoto Tachibana (Post 7867529)
Dedenne is confirmed to be like Pachirisu and Emolga -- No evolutions! So Pikachu's spotlight won't be taken away!

Oh is the Pichu family in Kalos Dex? I did not notice them... {D:}

This is an example that any Pikaclone that is not the Pikachu family itself will always never evolve. Remember that every time you see a new generation's Pikaclone.

And yes Pichu, Pikachu and Raichu will be in the game because hey Pikachu appeared in several trailers and has its anime voice as its new cry.

BeefTaco October 6th, 2013 7:25 AM

I hope they give Dragalge a good Electric move, Steel types are gonna be hell if he doesn't. I would prefer an Electric type move over a Fire type move since Heatran is not going anywhere any time soon.

Blastin'Tyruntz October 6th, 2013 7:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Makoto Tachibana (Post 7867529)
I guess you are referring to the purple(?) poison type snail right? It was proven fake.
I have not heard of the peacock, there's a fake penguin tho!




Dedenne is confirmed to be like Pachirisu and Emolga -- No evolutions! So Pikachu's spotlight won't be taken away!

Oh is the Pichu family in Kalos Dex? I did not notice them... {D:}

I saw Pikachu at PAX in the demo so probably the whole family does apear in the dex. Maybe in the Central because it's a mouse??
Also Skitty and Delcatty were in the demo and Skitty was asian....

Hikamaru October 6th, 2013 7:29 AM

It seems like the Hex Maniac trainer class is returning this generation:

MaoMint October 6th, 2013 7:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabrewulf238 (Post 7867511)

I know I'll still enjoy the games immensely and I'm super excited. That doesn't mean I don't think the number of new pokemon is a little underwhelming though. It's a shame to me because everything else about the games seems completely on the money. Another 20-30 pokemon and it would have been perfect.

Pretty much how I feel about this!
I few more wouldn certainly have been nice but I don't think it will bother my gameplay whatsoever. + I really like almost all of the new Pokémon so far!

People have often complained in the past about too many legendaries - I'm rather glad there are only a few this time! It makes them more special. Although I did hope for a trio of sorts.. I usually like the trios. 3:

HaphazardAsylum October 6th, 2013 7:31 AM

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Originally Posted by idankingo (Post 7867560)
I saw Pikachu at PAX in the demo so probably the whole family does apear in the dex. Maybe in the Central because it's a mouse??
Also Skitty and Delcatty were in the demo and Skitty was asian....

according to pastebin pikachu is in central as is skitty

btw there is still 1 pokemon unknown and it is the one before smeargle

dreamcatcher October 6th, 2013 7:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BeefTaco (Post 7867558)
I hope they give Dragalge a good Electric move, Steel types are gonna be hell if he doesn't. I would prefer an Electric type move over a Fire type move since Heatran is not going anywhere any time soon.

I read somewhere in this thread that Dragalge gets Thunderbolt, although the person who posted it didn't sound particularly impressed...
I guess it gets good coverage, but I'm more worried about it getting a good special Dragon move.

Blastin'Tyruntz October 6th, 2013 7:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikari10 (Post 7867563)
It seems like the Hex Maniac trainer class is returning this generation:

I seemed to forget that class....could you freshen up my memory?

Sun October 6th, 2013 7:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikari10 (Post 7867550)
This is an example that any Pikaclone that is not the Pikachu family itself will always never evolve. Remember that every time you see a new generation's Pikaclone.

And yes Pichu, Pikachu and Raichu will be in the game because hey Pikachu appeared in several trailers and has its anime voice as its new cry.

Nichole's 101 Lesson to be Pokémon Master {XD}
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Originally Posted by Hikari10 (Post 7867563)
It seems like the Hex Maniac trainer class is returning this generation:

Where are the people who were screaming for RS remakes? {XD}

Blastin'Tyruntz October 6th, 2013 7:34 AM

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Originally Posted by HaphazardAsylum (Post 7867567)
according to pastebin pikachu is in central as is skitty

btw there is still 1 pokemon unknown and it is the one before smeargle

Like 20-30 pages back it was said the spot was taken i don't remember who took it exactly.
Think Carbink?

Sun October 6th, 2013 7:34 AM

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Originally Posted by idankingo (Post 7867570)
I seemed to forget that class....could you freshen up my memory?

They debuted in Hoenn games. Before Gen VI, they are exclusive to Hoenn games! ^^

Blastin'Tyruntz October 6th, 2013 7:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Makoto Tachibana (Post 7867574)
They debuted in Hoenn games. Before Gen VI, they are exclusive to Hoenn games! ^^

Do the use psychic/dark/ghost types? the girl looks kinda freakin creepy

Hikamaru October 6th, 2013 7:35 AM

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Originally Posted by idankingo (Post 7867570)
I seemed to forget that class....could you freshen up my memory?

They mainly use Ghost-types, but the only region they ever appeared in was Hoenn. So I'm a bit surprised to see them returning in this game, but hey the fact they were only in Hoenn prior to now might also be another shout-out to the rumor of Ruby & Sapphire remakes.

Also, leaked stats for Goodra at Level 70:


It has really high Sp. Defense, which is really high compared to its other stats so I'm expecting as a good special wall as far as competitive play is concerned. It gets Hydration for its ability, but sadly it appears it might actually be staying pure Dragon and not Dragon/Fairy like some first thought when we saw it. It also learns Dragon Pulse, Body Slam, Muddy Water and Rain Dance.

HaphazardAsylum October 6th, 2013 7:36 AM

the amount of throwbacks is too much! lol if the supposed text in game about seeing hoenn and the anniversary than people may be right! lol

BeefTaco October 6th, 2013 7:38 AM

Guys don't get too excited for this because is still a rumor but apparently the Pokedex goes beyond #718 which is the Z legendarie's number.

Draqonite October 6th, 2013 7:39 AM

Guys has it been revealed if you can rematch gym's and E4 post game?

HaphazardAsylum October 6th, 2013 7:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BeefTaco (Post 7867580)
Guys don't get too excited for this because is still a rumor but apparently the Pokedex goes beyond #718 which is the Z legendarie's number.

do you know if the 3 dexes are still used at all post game or if they become completely redundant?

Hikamaru October 6th, 2013 7:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Draqonite (Post 7867581)
Guys has it been revealed if you can rematch gym's and E4 post game?

None of the leakers have revealed that yet, but stay tuned!

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Originally Posted by HaphazardAsylum (Post 7867577)
the amount of throwbacks is too much! lol if the supposed text in game about seeing hoenn and the anniversary than people may be right! lol

You know I think you are onto something here.

Also, I do admit there's loads of Hoenn shout-outs I admit:
  • An NPC saying this about the Hoenn region: "You will see it in due time"
  • The mention of Hoenn and the anniversaries called Ruby and Sapphire
  • The Hex Maniac trainer class being present, for the first time since 3rd Gen
  • Yveltal and Xerneas being red and blue in color respectively, while having abilities with similar effects, sorta like Groudon/Kyogre
  • The main characters Serena and Calem also having their default clothing that's primarily red and blue respectively
  • Zygarde being a Dragon-type, and having a serpentine-like body, similar to Rayquaza
  • Zygarde's ability cancels out Xerneas/Yveltal's abilities, much like how Rayquaza's does a similar thing to Groudon/Kyogre's abilities
  • The fact the 7th Kalos Gym is a Psychic-type Gym, much like how Hoenn's 7th Gym was also Psychic-type
  • The player is not originally from Kalos, much like how the player in 3rd Gen was not originally from Hoenn

Jigglymilk October 6th, 2013 7:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikari10 (Post 7867373)
Yeah, if you look at all the Kalos Pokemon, they don't have any relation to old Pokemon except for Sylveon. They were definitely pulling a Unova there, or close to it because almost all the new Kalos Pokemon don't have any evos/pre-evos of older Pokemon, sorta like what they did with all the Unova Pokemon. Interestingly enough, both Kalos and Unova aren't based on Japan.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't hoenn have only TWO pokemon related to past gen pokemon? Azuril and Wynaught.

Hikamaru October 6th, 2013 7:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Jigglymilk (Post 7867596)
And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't hoenn have only TWO pokemon related to past gen pokemon? Azuril and Wynaught.

Well, Wynaut and Azurill are pre-evos of two older Pokemon (Wobbuffet and Marill) whereas Sylveon is an evolution of Eevee.

Jigglymilk October 6th, 2013 7:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikari10 (Post 7867592)
None of the leakers have revealed that yet, but stay tuned!



You know I think you are onto something here.

Also, I do admit there's loads of Hoenn shout-outs I admit:
  • An NPC saying this about the Hoenn region: "You will see it in due time"
  • The mention of Hoenn and the anniversaries called Ruby and Sapphire
  • The Hex Maniac trainer class being present, for the first time since 3rd Gen
  • Yveltal and Xerneas being red and blue in color respectively, while having abilities with similar effects, sorta like Groudon/Kyogre
  • The main characters Serena and Calem also having their default clothing that's primarily red and blue respectively
  • Zygarde being a Dragon-type, and having a serpentine-like body, similar to Rayquaza
  • Zygarde's ability cancels out Xerneas/Yveltal's abilities, much like how Rayquaza's does a similar thing to Groudon/Kyogre's abilities
  • The fact the 7th Kalos Gym is a Psychic-type Gym, much like how Hoenn's 7th Gym was also Psychic-type
  • The player is not originally from Kalos, much like how the player in 3rd Gen was not originally from Hoenn

They did the same thing in DPP about heart gold and soul silver right? I think it's pretty much safe to say RBE remakes will arrive sometime after Z version. Now that 3D models and character creation is involved, I wonder how this will change the games?

Sun October 6th, 2013 7:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Jigglymilk (Post 7867596)
And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't hoenn have only TWO pokemon related to past gen pokemon? Azuril and Wynaught.

That was corrected already! Don't worry it's just a minor mistake! ;)

HaphazardAsylum October 6th, 2013 7:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikari10 (Post 7867592)
None of the leakers have revealed that yet, but stay tuned!



You know I think you are onto something here.

Also, I do admit there's loads of Hoenn shout-outs I admit:
  • An NPC saying this about the Hoenn region: "You will see it in due time"
  • The mention of Hoenn and the anniversaries called Ruby and Sapphire
  • The Hex Maniac trainer class being present, for the first time since 3rd Gen
  • Yveltal and Xerneas being red and blue in color respectively, while having abilities with similar effects, sorta like Groudon/Kyogre
  • The main characters Serena and Calem also having clothing that's primarily red and blue respectively
  • Zygarde being a Dragon-type, and having a serpentine-like body, similar to Rayquaza
  • The fact the 7th Kalos Gym is a Psychic-type Gym, much like how Hoenn's 7th Gym was also Psychic-type
  • The player is not originally from Kalos, much like how the player in 3rd Gen was not originally from Hoenn

xern is blue yveltal is red and zygarde is green like the rse legendaries and as far as i can tell those are the only other legendaries coloured as so we dont know if the text is real or not but if it is than either GF is trolling hard or didnt think people would think itd be hints to a rse remake cos im pretty sure all that would get them too hyped for one lol

herr_sebbe October 6th, 2013 7:55 AM

Where are we on difficulty settings? That's the only thing left in my weighing of X vs Y.

blue October 6th, 2013 7:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hikari10 (Post 7867592)
None of the leakers have revealed that yet, but stay tuned!



You know I think you are onto something here.

Also, I do admit there's loads of Hoenn shout-outs I admit:
  • An NPC saying this about the Hoenn region: "You will see it in due time"
  • The mention of Hoenn and the anniversaries called Ruby and Sapphire
  • The Hex Maniac trainer class being present, for the first time since 3rd Gen
  • Yveltal and Xerneas being red and blue in color respectively, while having abilities with similar effects, sorta like Groudon/Kyogre
  • The main characters Serena and Calem also having their default clothing that's primarily red and blue respectively
  • Zygarde being a Dragon-type, and having a serpentine-like body, similar to Rayquaza
  • Zygarde's ability cancels out Xerneas/Yveltal's abilities, much like how Rayquaza's does a similar thing to Groudon/Kyogre's abilities
  • The fact the 7th Kalos Gym is a Psychic-type Gym, much like how Hoenn's 7th Gym was also Psychic-type
  • The player is not originally from Kalos, much like how the player in 3rd Gen was not originally from Hoenn

And in the Anime there are four main characters, Ash, Serena, Clemont and Bonnie, which is very similar to the Hoenn journey anime with Ash, Brock, May & Max.


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