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Lysandre... [SPOILERS]
What was your reaction on the first ever confirmed death in the pokemon franchise, where lysandre killed himself as well as all of team flare? mine was horrified by how dark it was compared to the other evil organizations ways of splitting up. this is besides the fact that his logic doesn't make sense. he would want to recreate civilization without pokemon, and to rid the world of pokemon, he calls upon the pokemon of death its self (assuming you are playing Y) to kill all the pokemon. this logic doesn't workwhen you consider the fact that after everyone is already dead, if he planned on all people living, there would be even more fighting, something he didn't want, and if he wiped everyone else except for team flare, wouldn't yvetal kill them anyway. how was he planning on getting rid of his ultimate weapon? this team is my favorite, but it has the least logic of any team i have seen.
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Was pretty surprised honestly. Not just at the death's but how 'creepy' the story got late game. I mean seriously their goal was to kill all Pokemon and humans. And 3000 years ago somebody successfully killed thousands of Pokemon and humans. It's definitely the darkest story yet, and I can't believe some of the reviews I saw said things like "the story is bland and follows the same pattern." HELL NAW.
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when in the game did it say that he and team flare all killed themselves? I must have missed that bit of text rofl
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yeah um guys ive completed the game well the all the story line part of it and they dont all die at all... they have gone back to what kinda people they were before it and through out it several of the characters from team flare arrise after they are 'all killed'..
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The story was rather dark, but not in any way bland. Most of his team has disappeared (possibly from explosion/implied deaths), but you can see a few around. One is in a house in Kiloude City, saying he has lost his ways as a Team Flare member (but wanted to keep his snazzy suit :3)
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I really loved the darker element of this story because it was time for one. All previous generations have given us a story that had times where it would seem as if it were going in a darker direction, but never fully reached that. I was unaware though that he killed most of Team Flare off and I just assumed that they all escaped except Lysandre, but regardless a good conclusion to this dark storyline.
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I haven't played the game but Team Flare doesn't sound interesting. The leader sounds ostensibly like a cliched, archetypal, omnicidal, villain... Well, Pokemon was never great at bringing us good characters or a well written story anyway.
Just because a character dies doesn't mean that the story is "dark" or "ambiguous"(hopefully nobody thought that way). The way people are describing the death and character makes it sound shallow especially when people overlook and even fail to acknowledge the death. |
The story was very shallow with the exception of AZ's story there was no character development and I'm still annoyed by them being team flare for no reason. No explanation or noticeable reason for that name. Some use fire types, but not all of them, and their mission has nothing to do with fire.
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I can accept the story, the leader isn't really a villain in a sense when you think about what he wanted. He wanted a beautiful world without fighting and the only way to do this in the pokemon world is to get rid of Pokemons. It's different from what we seen so far and I like it. |
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I don't remember exactly what Sycamore said, but from what I remember I was under the assumption that not even Lysandre died...in a state similar to Ghetsis's after B2W2, maybe. But if he did die, well, it's not THAT surprising to me. The entire backstory of X and Y is about a war where many people and Pokémon died, and how the king sacrificed other Pokémon to bring his back. Death is already established within the games.
And, as others have said, it's confirmed that a fair amount of Flare members survived and can be found post-game. Heck, I even think the member who chased your rivals out of the PokéBall Factory is still there. Also, I'm a firm supporter of the theory that Giovanni died after his event in HGSS, so death in the series really don't shock me. |
i would like see the great pokemon wars as anime. have to wonder why the pokemon had wars lol
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The story was not bland at all. It just happened way too quickly for my liking. I wish they dragged out the story with team flare and the legend a little longer.
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This thread seems to be based around assumptions. I didn't interpret it that way at all.
Although I agree with those who are saying that the game was surprisingly dark. |
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i was so confused about it... but what concerned me even more was how nobody seemed to really care?
when we all left his secret base there was like one person outside all of those flipped houses and the huge gaping hole and all he had to say was "haha! we might have just had a bunch of rocks before but now we have a huge ol' hole!" ?!?!?!??! where are all the concerned adults and police and firemen and grieving families i dONT UNDERSTAND |
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but. but. i don't know, think what you want, but i'm pretty sure he killed himself and took down whoever else was in that HQ base with him. nobody could've survived an explosion like that. but y'know, instead of screaming and crying and worrying about the charred bodies under the wreckage in the middle of what used to be a town, we just go to the next town to celebrate and the NPC villagers are the same as ever. like. your friends were in those houses. why are you not concerned?! |
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