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Storyline was definitely surprisingly dark....usually pokemon don't even mention the word "death" fully, and to go from that to a storyline base on the stopping of GENOCIDE is.....random. I liked Team Flare and the story in all but, I agree it seemed like they just shoved it in between the 7th and 8th gym, I wished it was expanded more. Easily the 2nd best storyline though, it just wasn't on Unova level despite how dark it was.
I also wished the characters supported more (like Gym Leaders and E4 members) I mean...a guy is threatening you with complete Genocide and nobody seems to bat an eye.... |
Well, with the exception of black and white(2), most Pokemon games reach the peak of their story between the 7th and 8th gyms.
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I thought he was an okay as a villain. It probably helps that I imagined him being voiced
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The Big Explosion scene is confusing. The Machine was made to grant life, but then changed into a weapon. And it still is a weapon. Then the villain threatens to make you immortal. And then, it blows up - leaving a crater.
If Lysandre is dead, or Immortal and burried under rubble.... What is going to happen in the Sequel? Team Flare is all but gone. Like a passing Fancy, no one even cares that they were part of the team, none cares to punish former team members. "Ok, That's Over" And no one cares that it happened. What material do they have for a follow up? Maybe a completely new villain shows up like a new Passion in Kalos. Or, Immortal Lysandre (if that is even a thing) crawls out of the rubble for revenge. |
I just hated that the legendary was just there... There was no fight in "protecting" the legendary from its original place of rest, and honestly.... All the characters in the story including the player in general just seemed so naive & oblivious to what lysandre was going to do. Besides that this game is one of my favorites :D
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There's no Immortality in Y though...just genocide...
In Z they'll proably aim to kill everyone but make themselves immortal...combining both parts. I liked Lysander...but he should stay dead...or immortal under rubble...as it fits with the mortif of death and life. |
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What really stood out to me more than anything is the houses that were overturned... I mean, really? With that huge explosion, those wood cabins should be blasted to pieces. But they are turned over like fallen chess pieces. That wood must be made of impenetrable super wood.
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Guys, let's not forget we're talking about Pokemon - a game for children. While there is a strong assumption that Lysandre is dead along with some other team members, we forget about another assumption. The team disbanded and Lysandre went into hiding - they fled before the explosion occurred. While there isn't strong evidence in this, the fact that Pokemon is a children's game would support this theory.
But I would have to agree the story was dark.. Killing Pokemon 3000 years ago for the sake of his Floette ;_; But there is a happy ending, I guess - not going to spoil it! It would've been nice if the story was longer and more in depth, I just didn't feel satisfied taking down Team Flare. In my opinion, I would've liked to see more villainous acts because it barely felt like they were going to "dominate the world." I mean, come on! NPCs completely forget about them! |
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I'm sure all of you are mixing up what a good story is. Granted, this game was dark. Killing Pokemon is pretty damn messed up. However, that hardly makes it good. It was rushed, no development, no clear sense of direction (we only care about Team Flare until Lysandre makes threat Holo Caster announcement), and, simply put, it's a traditional Pokemon story. All of the characters are completely flat-especially your friends. People can think that the story is good. But you can't really say it's good because its dark alone. If you say that, then you can take a terra-bad movie like Bridge to Terrabithia and say it's good because it's happy. I digress. Story was lame, but that's normal.
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I don't remember being promised eternal life...
Whether this is because I sped through the dialogue or I was playing Y version, I'm not sure. Either way, this guy's a pretty legit villain. Too bad Team Flare themselves were complete losers. |
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Actually, time has passed in the games. The Dragon-Type E4 says she was "brought up on stories of the mighty Time and Space dragons". She was a child during the fourth generation, and is now a somewhat old woman in the sixth. While it's not clear how much time passes in between the games, it does indeed go by. |
In X, Lysandre says he will make you immortal. When he said that, he meant to make you suffer of eternal life because there would always be evil and war in the world and all you could do is go through it and suffer.
So far Unova was the best story for me and I always have not cared for Sinnoh's story. I was really hoping that the story would blend in with running through the gyms like it did in Sinnoh. |
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Can I add you? Don't have a lot of people to play the game with. My friend code is 5214-9767-5488.
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What really confuses me is this - what the heck was with the "fashion and flair!" mantras of Team Flare members?
There's a total disconnect between the leader of the organization, the goals of the organization, and the constituent members of the organization. Team Flare members don't really talk about cleansing the world, ending warfare and strife, how much faith they have in Lysandre and his cause... All they consistently talk about is the Team Flare uniform and how stylish/cool/fashionable/radical they think they are. Lysandre isn't a model or a pop star, he's not a fashion designer or an artist. He's some perpetually broody older man who hates the world the way it is now. He's bitter, grumpy, taciturn. So why would his organization consist of a bunch of flamboyant fashion aficionados and people wearing weird cyber goggles and green lipstick? It's just... weird. It doesn't make any sense. You'd think members of an organization with goals like Lysandre's would all be very stern, serious, pessimistic about the way the world is now. They'd have a really diabolical and moody presence and perhaps be feared. But instead they all have hilarious flame-pouf hairstyles and nobody's afraid of them and all they do is strike poses and talk about how cool they are. |
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