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jellotime91 October 15th, 2013 10:50 AM

Train Station Town "Has a Secret" ... Region / Location DLC?
 
STOP - I know Aonuma said the series will not have PAID DLC as long as he is director. So before you say that, know that that is not necessarily what this means.

While in Dendemille Town, Professor Sycamore tells you that this town "has a secret"... Another trainer in the region says something about his region, and then "you'll see it in due time" (this was previously misquoted as him mentioning Hoenn specifically, but he does not actually mention Hoenn by name).

This game has almost no after-game content. I have a feeling that this is because they are planning to add more content via DLC.

This is just my guess regarding this mysterious "secret".... Does anyone else have any idea?

Exoaria October 15th, 2013 10:57 AM

I just beat the game and I'm absolutely furious that there's nothing to do.
I've been wondering about this as well for the last two days, so I really damn hope so. It shouldn't be DLC though, it should just be a part of the game that I paid for.

Shubshub October 15th, 2013 10:58 AM

Which town was this guy from another region in?

JayTheKing October 15th, 2013 10:58 AM

Also there is that souvenir about a Legendary from another region.

Triforce October 15th, 2013 11:09 AM

He doesn't mean the Prism Scale by any chance does he? That's the most valuable item I found in the town.

jellotime91 October 15th, 2013 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Exoaria (Post 7883727)
I just beat the game and I'm absolutely furious that there's nothing to do.
I've been wondering about this as well for the last two days, so I really damn hope so. It shouldn't be DLC though, it should just be a part of the game that I paid for.

As I said, DLC doesn't mean PAID DLC. They could very well offer new missions, islands etc. for free. Aonuma said there will be no Paid DLC.

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Originally Posted by shubshub (Post 7883728)
Which town was this guy from another region in?

I forget. Honestly I can not remember which town is which and I'm too lazy to open up my 3DS. Google's no help either.

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Originally Posted by Triforce (Post 7883740)
He doesn't mean the Prism Scale by any chance does he? That's the most valuable item I found in the town.

I sincerely hope not...

bluecat October 15th, 2013 4:09 PM

I think this is the guy they are talking about...

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blue October 15th, 2013 4:16 PM

A whole region DLC would be way too excessive and unstable. Just imagine how much data and programming would be needed for a whole region to be created into a DLC, and then downloaded into the games. I just really don't see it happening, as for the guy saying "You'll see it in due time" I'm not quite sure what he means but I wouldn't read too much into it.

iRyahn October 15th, 2013 4:20 PM

Yeah the fact that he said "you should see my region" makes me think DLC is out of the question. If he was just mentioning the town alone it would make sense. But an entire region?

I think it's just one of those they put in-game for upcoming games like the girl foreshadowing Munna.

Exoaria October 15th, 2013 4:23 PM

It could just be hinting the R/S/E remakes. A new region would certainly be wonderful, even if it was just a pseudo-region. However, the fact that there's an unused train station in that very town makes it plausible.
I'm in disagreement with some people here. I do think it's possible to read into what he's saying (why would Game Freak just 'add' that in without reason?) to say there could be more end-game content added. As per my recent thread, I'm quite displeased at the game's current state of post game content.

jazneo October 15th, 2013 4:28 PM

just have to wait and see they could make a new Region for Free DLC the 3ds is can do dlc feature like clothes,new pokemon or new gym to fight


Nintendo product can make free dlc when there got from the sales pokemon x and Y.


when you start to pokemon x and Y it ask to install somthing on your SD card

Mog The Moogle October 15th, 2013 4:56 PM

i think were gonna have an expansion for the game! kinda reminds me of WoW or Skyrim when I say expansion. :D hopefully it happens!

jazneo October 15th, 2013 5:37 PM

i been search the net they say gamefreak dont want dlc for pokemon. But really we the people like see DLC from gamefreak. i bet people will pay for go to different regions.

or add more co-op area in the game. there some bad dlc from greed but we know gamefreak and nintendo hate being greed make a crappy game. when the nintendo make the game they make sure it good before sale it

Killjoy October 15th, 2013 5:38 PM

It could be a small region, like real life Monaco

DamienHelvian October 15th, 2013 5:46 PM

I think it's more of a hint to the long awaited remakes of Ruby and Sapphire (crystal didn't get one so I doubt Emerald will either)
And maybe they've set up something to connect the two sets of games. The 3DS has a lot of capability, there could be an app or something in development having to do with it.
As for DLC/Expansion possibilities. It's not exactly out of the question, and even though such things could be time consuming...this is nintendo we're talking about. They could have very well already been working on it.
These games were designed for the many newcomers into the series, the new generation of gamers. That's why it was much easier and shorter. Although the dark plotline was a little much...
It wouldn't be hard either. They could use the update system to add in new content. Although there isn't an 'update data' option, it could be automatic. And there's always Mystery Gift events, there's probably plenty of little quests in the game, but they need items to unlock them which we'd get through Mystery Gift.
Right now they're working on Bank and Transfer, so let's wait it out.

Rivvon October 15th, 2013 6:00 PM

Maybe it refers to the next game in the set? I can't imagine an entire new region added on as DLC since this is a 3DS game, but I can imagine another game entirely (a supposed "Z," perhaps) that adds another region. That being said, if there was DLC I wouldn't complain.

Xander Olivieri October 15th, 2013 6:24 PM

They didn't really say that they weren't doing Paid DLC. They reconfirmed that there will be absolutely no DLC content for X and Y.

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Nintendo reluctantly started offering for-pay downloadable content. However, the company is adamant customers shouldn't feel like they're buying an incomplete product. While Nintendo has developed interesting add-ons for their franchises, like Pikmin and Mario, its cash cow franchise, Pokemon, is resisting the idea. That includes the imminent releases of Pokemon X and Y.


"There’s no download content or microtransaction content developed specifically for Pokémon X and Y," Game Freak director Junichi Masuda told VG247. "We've not come up with any ideas on that yet. I like the idea that Pokémon can be enjoyed with just one piece of software. You buy the game and it can be enjoyed just with that one software that you buy. That's a key point for Game Freak."

Of course, it's impossible to catch 'em all in any mainline Pokemon game without trading with other players. However, even with Masuda's reservations, Pokemon's collection-based gameplay would seem to lend itself to selling DLC-based monsters.
There won't be any DLC at all. What we have is what we get. Only things we can get now are the undiscovered event items and Pokemon.

jazneo October 15th, 2013 6:36 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7884467)
They didn't really say that they weren't doing Paid DLC. They reconfirmed that there will be absolutely no DLC content for X and Y.



There won't be any DLC at all. What we have is what we get. Only things we can get now are the undiscovered event items and Pokemon.

i still pay for new area. i know gamefreak not money milker but fan of pokemon would like some dlc in future make the game more fun

Xander Olivieri October 15th, 2013 6:43 PM

We would like, but Gamefreak does not approve of the idea. With both directors adamantly against DLC for the Pokemon titles, we're not getting any anytime soon.

Rivvon October 15th, 2013 6:44 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7884467)
There won't be any DLC at all. What we have is what we get. Only things we can get now are the undiscovered event items and Pokemon.

But think about DLC not in the traditional sense but in the Pokémon sense. Remember the DPP event Arceus that unlocked the Sinjoh Ruins? The HGSS Celebi that allowed you to view an event with Silver, and then battle Giovanni? All those tickets that I can't even begin to name from gen 3 that gave you access to small islands, and others that unlocked small areas in gen 4? Game Freak has included event-only locations in the past; of course, an entire region can't (or, to word it better, shouldn't) be event-only, but there's always a possibility that small locations are hidden away in the game to be later unlocked by an event. And I can definitely see small locations related to such "secrets" being unlocked by events; actually, I think that would be quite fun, too!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire October 15th, 2013 6:47 PM

I think it may be an event legendary...or something along those lines...

Lavans October 15th, 2013 7:51 PM

I also hope there will be a DLC or event that allows us to go to a new area. Preferably one that expands on the Safari

DamienHelvian October 15th, 2013 9:45 PM

Well adding a new region to a third game in a series wouldn't be too different.
Pokemon Z with Kalos and Hoenn would be cool. I'm guessing that means Hoenn is the closest region of the pokemon series 'mainland' to Kalos.
I would've figured Sinnoh. That would put Kalos to the south of the mainland, as I believe Hoenn is the southernmost region, correct? Sinnoh is the eastern-most, Johto the western, and Kanto smack dab in the middle.
Just a boat ride across, sort of like Orange Islands, but bigger.
They'd have to introduce a new town as a Port.

Deokishisu October 15th, 2013 9:56 PM

The backpacker says that we'll see his region in due time, but it seems like everyone's thinking that his region is gonna be as big as Kalos! How soon we forget that the Sevii Islands were considered to be their own region in game. A free DLC add-on that adds a small, post-game region like the Sevii Islands were is totally plausible. In fact, as far as we know, all of those areas are already mapped in-game and we're just waiting for Gamefreak to distribute a ticket to let us go there.

It's also interesting that the backpacker specifically uses "you" when saying that to our player characters, which gives me the impression that our player characters still have more to see in X and Y.

X-Calem October 16th, 2013 3:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Rivvon (Post 7884497)
But think about DLC not in the traditional sense but in the Pokémon sense. Remember the DPP event Arceus that unlocked the Sinjoh Ruins? The HGSS Celebi that allowed you to view an event with Silver, and then battle Giovanni? All those tickets that I can't even begin to name from gen 3 that gave you access to small islands, and others that unlocked small areas in gen 4? Game Freak has included event-only locations in the past; of course, an entire region can't (or, to word it better, shouldn't) be event-only, but there's always a possibility that small locations are hidden away in the game to be later unlocked by an event. And I can definitely see small locations related to such "secrets" being unlocked by events; actually, I think that would be quite fun, too!

The time when we need hackers to "crack open" the game and see what secrets lie in store in the games data. :)
Still, there should be a lot of unused items in the code that will probably never see the light of day. In Pokemon Black/White, there was a third stone beside the Light and Dark Stones, but it was never implemented in-game.

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Originally Posted by jellotime91 (Post 7883716)
STOP - I know Aonuma said the series will not have PAID DLC as long as he is director. So before you say that, know that that is not necessarily what this means.

While in Dendemille Town, Professor Sycamore tells you that this town "has a secret"... Another trainer in the region says something about his region, and then "you'll see it in due time" (this was previously misquoted as him mentioning Hoenn specifically, but he does not actually mention Hoenn by name).

This game has almost no after-game content. I have a feeling that this is because they are planning to add more content via DLC.

This is just my guess regarding this mysterious "secret".... Does anyone else have any idea?

Just to add on, there can be little updates to add more areas to explore, and these updates could be rolled out to eShop users. If they plan to add it as DLC, it doesn't have to necessarily be paid. It can be free DLC, (e.g Forge Islands from the Xbox 360 game Halo 4), and as long as it is downloaded from online, it is known as DLC, whether paid or not. :)

Fading Tree October 16th, 2013 3:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7884241)
A whole region DLC would be way too excessive and unstable. Just imagine how much data and programming would be needed for a whole region to be created into a DLC, and then downloaded into the games. I just really don't see it happening, as for the guy saying "You'll see it in due time" I'm not quite sure what he means but I wouldn't read too much into it.

  • Already programmed into the game, and need a DLC key to access.
  • RSE Remake is in the works.

Hatsuharu October 16th, 2013 3:41 AM

While the idea of finally getting our long anticipated R/S/E is swell, it begs the question of how rushed it will be. Black 2/White2 and X/Y were about a year apart, give a few days after that year for X and Y's actual release date- I feel they're rushing things too much. If there's not much to do in the X and Y postgame, how rushed will they make the RSE remakes in order to get them out on the shelves?

X-Calem October 16th, 2013 3:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Hatsuharu (Post 7884976)
While the idea of finally getting our long anticipated R/S/E is swell, it begs the question of how rushed it will be. Black 2/White2 and X/Y were about a year apart, give a few days after that year for X and Y's actual release date- I feel they're rushing things too much. If there's not much to do in the X and Y postgame, how rushed will they make the RSE remakes in order to get them out on the shelves?

Maybe the R/S/E remakes are in development as we speak. Nintendo and Game Freak just have not revealed it to the public. That's how game companies work :P

Fading Tree October 16th, 2013 4:00 AM

If it is the RSE remakes may they be released some time late 2015 / early 2016. Let the fans enjoy XY for a while. Release a few fixes to the game
Save Glitch and allow me to take my hat off.

blue October 16th, 2013 4:05 AM

If they are going to reveal Ruby & Sapphire remakes, it will be atleast two years after when they started developing. Let's say they announce them next year, around May 2014, that would probably mean that they've been working on them since Mid-2012 alongside X & Y. Now that Pokémon X & Y have been completed, the only further work they need to focus on X & Y is any patches to correct the current glitches in game which isn't too much of an issue. Now they can focus on developing the next set of game(s) whether that be a Ruby & Sapphire Remake or not. Also, there is nowhere near as much developing needed for the next set of Generation VI Games since the X/Y Game engine has already been set up. I can assure you that the next game(s) won't be rushed, these games always take years to develop but we just don't know about it until they tell us.

HaphazardAsylum October 16th, 2013 5:53 AM

i havent read this entire thread and i have said this elsewhere but no one seems to notice so sorry if someone beat me to it,
but there is stuff to do besides looking for mega stones once the prof upgrades your mega ring.

there is the looker who you help and a reporter i think who is looking into a mythical creature or something

also the guy who mentions seeing his town if you talk to him on four seperate days(he moves hotels so if you go see him in the last one he may have moved to another) he is the person that gives you the strange souvenir and lists off all the old regions saying he is not from ANY of them so it is not about any remakes and means if we are getting an event region that unlocks it in the game or a third game it is likely to be in another whole new region.

kay3o October 16th, 2013 8:10 AM

What if this 'new area' is already in the game and they're just waiting to unlock it? I mean, they didn't want any spoilers for X&Y and did the whole World Wide release so it could give people the chance to discover things on their own. Having content locked for a certain amount of time would be the perfect way to do it.

JayTheKing October 16th, 2013 9:01 AM

I just came up with something wild.What if the present for completing the Pokedex is a ticket to that new place?The only way to get all of the Pokes for the National is via the Bank.That traveler also said ''you will see soon enough''maybe December when the service will start.

Princess Diana October 16th, 2013 9:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7884241)
A whole region DLC would be way too excessive and unstable. Just imagine how much data and programming would be needed for a whole region to be created into a DLC, and then downloaded into the games. I just really don't see it happening, as for the guy saying "You'll see it in due time" I'm not quite sure what he means but I wouldn't read too much into it.

Watch "in due time" mean "in one region's game cycle"

ggctuk October 16th, 2013 9:07 AM

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Originally Posted by kay3o (Post 7885264)
What if this 'new area' is already in the game and they're just waiting to unlock it? I mean, they didn't want any spoilers for X&Y and did the whole World Wide release so it could give people the chance to discover things on their own. Having content locked for a certain amount of time would be the perfect way to do it.

That's possible. Remember in BW, Liberty Island did not even appear on the map until you got the Liberty Ticket through an event.

jellotime91 October 16th, 2013 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by iRyahn (Post 7884250)
Yeah the fact that he said "you should see my region" makes me think DLC is out of the question. If he was just mentioning the town alone it would make sense. But an entire region?

I think it's just one of those they put in-game for upcoming games like the girl foreshadowing Munna.

... That girl was not actually talking about Munna. With Munna, it's likely the other way around. They went through Red and Blue for inspiration, and someone thought "hey, this girl is talking about a pink Pokemon with flowers.. Let's make one!"

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Originally Posted by Mog The Moogle (Post 7884316)
i think were gonna have an expansion for the game! kinda reminds me of WoW or Skyrim when I say expansion. :D hopefully it happens!

I really hope so. Could be a new future for Pokemon. I'm hoping they will actually add new Pokemon to the dex too as time goes on so that X/Y will be compatible with future games. DLC is a huge deal for Pokemon if used correctly.

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Originally Posted by Killjoy (Post 7884384)
It could be a small region, like real life Monaco

Yeah. When I said region, I didn't mean another Kalos. I just meant a new area to explore, whether that be one town / island, a cluster like Sevii, etc... But it is not unrealistic to think they could expand the game via DLC and include Hoenn or another region. Look at what they did with Super Luigi U. Nintendo is warming up to DLC more and more.

Xander Olivieri October 16th, 2013 4:03 PM

We aren't getting add on content. Gamefreak and TPC have both expressed severe dislike and have outright said that they do not intend to produce such merchandise. There won't be any DLCs for X and Y as outlines by both TPC director and director and chief developer of the main series games. They don't have any plans on following up with that kinda material for the games.

IF we are getting Hoenn anything it'll be in a set of games to appear in the next 2 years or so IF they even want to make us some new games.

I know I'm being a negative nancy here, but its being thrown in our faces by the two leading figures of Pokemon that there will be no DLC of any kind. Only the regular distribution method that we've had since Generation 4. As for Region, Matsuda said he was not putting two regions into one game again. I do forget when and where he said this, but I have seen other people link to news reports about it on various forums. One was specifically referencing X and Y with Hoenn in which he said he did not intend to do that again.

Hold out for two years and wait for them to make an announcement for remakes.

And no I'm not saying we can't have something like a hidden Sevii Island. That isn't DLC. That would already be programmed into the game and we are awaiting a proper item from the main host (TPC) to be distributed to unlock the location for us. Very much similar to Faraway Island, Naval Rock, and Liberty Island. That is still possible seeing as we cannot pull data from these games and have no idea what is hidden in them.

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Originally Posted by Hatsuharu (Post 7884976)
While the idea of finally getting our long anticipated R/S/E is swell, it begs the question of how rushed it will be. Black 2/White2 and X/Y were about a year apart, give a few days after that year for X and Y's actual release date- I feel they're rushing things too much. If there's not much to do in the X and Y postgame, how rushed will they make the RSE remakes in order to get them out on the shelves?

New generations always follow a year after the last installment for the previous generation.

There is a 3 to 4 year gap between the main release series titles and usually a one to two year gap between the last released and a new generation. Its how its been from the beginning.
Red/Blue/Green 1996
Yellow 1998 Gold/Silver 1999
Crystal 2000 Ruby/Sapphire 2003
Emerald 2004 Diamond/Pearl 2006
Heart Gold/Soul Silver 2008 Black/White 2010
Black 2/White 2 2012 X/Y 2013

We started with a one year gap and so far ending with a one year gap. We also had a technology issue where the 5th Gen was pushed out a bit faster (though they still met the 3 year gap) due to them being forced to produce a 3DS game. They really couldn't afford to wait to produce a 3DS game any longer than they did.

2015 is a pretty good shot at when we'd get something new, earliest would be a little bit before that with a year passing before we hear anything.



So I was reading through my guide and saw that the Backpacker that was originally the cause for the Hoenn fan base to erupt in its conspiracy theorist paranoia all over again is actually from an unknown region. There is a representative from every region that visits the hotels in Kalos, and this guy is listed as unknown. So. Does this mean that GF dropped a bomb on us? He's from a new region or minor game area yet to be unlocked/to appear in the next installment....What is Gen 6 has two regions with two separate sets of games? That could be a reason why we only have the small amount of Pokemon we got, we'd get more in the next one. Seeing as we cannot get data from the games we don't know if there is actually data for more Pokemon in our games or not.

HaphazardAsylum October 17th, 2013 2:26 AM

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seeing as the main reason people thought that seeing a new region was because of the backpacker saying you will see his region in due time i am going to post these pics of what he says once you speak to him four times and the item he gives you that clearly says it/he is from a region far from kalos.

If it is true that the main guys said they arent going to be putting in a second region in a game it seems we will be getting another bw bw2 situation with xy2 this idea is further supported by the fact you get the z legend in these games ruling out the need for pokemon z and your character goes to a new region and the story continues even one of your friends says she is going to go to another region and make memories
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as i mentioned it i thought i should at least show pics!

Murkrow October 17th, 2013 3:52 AM

its has already been iterated many times that GF that does not do DLC, paid or not.

so this may probably be some small region that is already in the game waiting to be unlocked by some special ticket item,
or simply wait 2 years for Z version

Princess Diana October 17th, 2013 4:33 AM

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Originally Posted by HaphazardAsylum (Post 7886691)
seeing as the main reason people thought that seeing a new region was because of the backpacker saying you will see his region in due time i am going to post these pics of what he says once you speak to him four times and the item he gives you that clearly says it/he is from a region far from kalos.

If it is true that the main guys said they arent going to be putting in a second region in a game it seems we will be getting another bw bw2 situation with xy2 this idea is further supported by the fact you get the z legend in these games ruling out the need for pokemon x and your character goes to a new region and the story continues even one of your friends says she is going to go to another region and make memories
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Cool find! That statue is funky-looking.

Lavans October 17th, 2013 5:28 AM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7885925)
2015 is a pretty good shot at when we'd get something new, earliest would be a little bit before that with a year passing before we hear anything.

This is exactly why I suspect there will be some form of DLC in the future. They need X/Y to keep us entertained for at least a good year or two. As is, the game is so abrupt that it's probably not going to last much longer than a half year for X/Y enthusiasts (such as myself - I already have 80 hours logged)

3d games are more time consuming to develop than sprite based. GF said that X/Y is going to be the biggest Pokemon game to date. While that exact statement is a bit vague, it's true that it has the most side content and mini games, but the world itself is quite small and some things (such as TMs and clothes) are extremely lacking and hard to come by (though I suspect clothing items are a seasonal thing). Also, I sincerely doubt that GF is going to have players rely solely on the lackluster Friends Safari and the Pokemon Cloud just to bring the missing Pokemon into circulation in X/Y.

The last Pokemon game I've played was Emerald, so I'm not familiar with later releases. But so far, I'd say this is the smallest Pokemon game I've played so far. However, X/Y has some extremely expansive ground work put into place for decently sized content updates. That's just my take on it though.

oggret October 17th, 2013 6:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Killjoy (Post 7884384)
It could be a small region, like real life Monaco

You could be onto something there, as XY doesn't feature any gambling den (regardless of there being any gambling in it) at all. It could also open up some sorely lacking surf routes.

Xander Olivieri October 17th, 2013 9:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Lavans (Post 7886844)
This is exactly why I suspect there will be some form of DLC in the future. They need X/Y to keep us entertained for at least a good year or two. As is, the game is so abrupt that it's probably not going to last much longer than a half year for X/Y enthusiasts (such as myself - I already have 80 hours logged)

3d games are more time consuming to develop than sprite based. GF said that X/Y is going to be the biggest Pokemon game to date. While that exact statement is a bit vague, it's true that it has the most side content and mini games, but the world itself is quite small and some things (such as TMs and clothes) are extremely lacking and hard to come by (though I suspect clothing items are a seasonal thing). Also, I sincerely doubt that GF is going to have players rely solely on the lackluster Friends Safari and the Pokemon Cloud just to bring the missing Pokemon into circulation in X/Y.

The last Pokemon game I've played was Emerald, so I'm not familiar with later releases. But so far, I'd say this is the smallest Pokemon game I've played so far. However, X/Y has some extremely expansive ground work put into place for decently sized content updates. That's just my take on it though.

There is no DLC. Both major heads for Pokemon, the President of TPC and head director of GameFreak both said there's be no DLCs for Pokemon X and Y and that both members disliked the idea of having DLC for their games.

As for size, its definitely larger than any of the past Pokemon games for an initial release. I usually beat the games in under 24 hours and this one tool me nearly 36 hours to beat it playing at my normal pace. This game has over 400 Pokemon available through the normal means, and this expands to a very high amount when you beat the game. There is a lot of add in content such as Pokemon Amie, Super Training, Berry Farm, Battle Chateau, Battle Maison, and the new battle styles, Horde, Inverse, and Sky Battles. They've kept their word on how large the game is and we still have the tournaments, PGL opening, and mini games to keep us occupied for a while not to mention searching/waiting for the secret Pokemon/Events that we cannot leak due to coding lock preventing us from just pulling the data out and locating them all.

Other than this, its already been confirmed that there is no DLC for X and Y we just have to wait for all the extra stuff to open up in December.

pokewalker October 17th, 2013 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jellotime91 (Post 7885551)



Yeah. When I said region, I didn't mean another Kalos. I just meant a new area to explore, whether that be one town / island, a cluster like Sevii, etc... But it is not unrealistic to think they could expand the game via DLC and include Hoenn or another region. Look at what they did with Super Luigi U. Nintendo is warming up to DLC more and more.

Dude... Monaco's just slightly bigger than the Vatican... It's one of the smallest countries in the world so "another Kalos" would never happen as they'd have to oversize it. One, maybe two towns. That'd be it.

Lavans October 17th, 2013 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7887159)
As for size, its definitely larger than any of the past Pokemon games for an initial release. I usually beat the games in under 24 hours and this one tool me nearly 36 hours to beat it playing at my normal pace. This game has over 400 Pokemon available through the normal means, and this expands to a very high amount when you beat the game. There is a lot of add in content such as Pokemon Amie, Super Training, Berry Farm, Battle Chateau, Battle Maison, and the new battle styles, Horde, Inverse, and Sky Battles. They've kept their word on how large the game is.

I agree to disagree with this statement. The minigames are nice, but there is no denying the fact that the game world is small and the story is short. The fact that no new areas unlock post game is quite unsatisfactory because of this. Also, I beat X faster than any of the other Pokemon games I own, and I even clocked a good few hours in the mini games during my first playthrough.

As I said earlier, its no surprise the game world is small since 3d games requires more time and money to develop for. That's the kind of tradeoff that needs to be expected when transitioning from sprites to 3d. Hopefully the events aren't lackluster, and that the next installment doesn't have an abrupt core game.

DoctorParadox October 17th, 2013 4:44 PM

He could mean the message he left himself

Iceshadow3317 October 17th, 2013 6:12 PM

The secrete is probably the hidden Gyradosnite or whatever it is called. I am not sure the exact way to unlock it yet, but you do find it Gyradosnite there.

I also believe he said " I left a secrete in this town. See if you can find it." Not the town has a secrete.

Xander Olivieri October 17th, 2013 6:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Lavans (Post 7887327)
I agree to disagree with this statement. The minigames are nice, but there is no denying the fact that the game world is small and the story is short. The fact that no new areas unlock post game is quite unsatisfactory because of this. Also, I beat X faster than any of the other Pokemon games I own, and I even clocked a good few hours in the mini games during my first playthrough.

As I said earlier, its no surprise the game world is small since 3d games requires more time and money to develop for. That's the kind of tradeoff that needs to be expected when transitioning from sprites to 3d. Hopefully the events aren't lackluster, and that the next installment doesn't have an abrupt core game.

You barely unlock any areas in any main Pokemon game with the initial release. Gen 2 and their remakes are the only initial release games with post game content that cannot be done with in a 2 to 3 hour time period. All the others can be gone through in at least 3 hours.

The story for this one is long and the region itself is the largest region we've had in a while, both pokedex and size wise.

X-Calem October 17th, 2013 6:52 PM

IMO, the region was pretty easy to explore. We have people completing the story in 9h 54 min 0_o

HairyLoco October 17th, 2013 7:08 PM

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Originally Posted by X-Calem (Post 7884948)
The time when we need hackers to "crack open" the game and see what secrets lie in store in the games data. http://www.pokecommunity.com/images/templates/smilies/cerulean/1.%20smile.gif

I think I might agree with this.
I don't think a completely new region unlikely. SoulSilver and Heartgold spanned two regions, so they are capable. Because I think in those games the Kanto side was rather rushed, I personally view it as just an experiment.

Also a technology I have seen used quite often lately, is to already add content we have no access to, or even way of knowing it's there.
What I mean is, instead of DLC, the new region might already be in the game.
We simply can't go there yet. The only thing they would have to do is, for example, to make a train go in Couriway Town, which can be activated without any DLC at all.

Just my thoughts and a very broad hypothesis with low accuracy.
So don't take my words for granted, I just wanted to inform you of this option.

jazneo October 17th, 2013 7:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PokéLoco (Post 7887998)
I think I might agree with this.
I don't think a completely new region unlikely. SoulSilver and Heartgold spanned two regions, so they are capable. Because I think in those games the Kanto side was rather rushed, I personally view it as just an experiment.

Also a technology I have seen used quite often lately, is to already add content we have no access to, or even way of knowing it's there.
What I mean is, instead of DLC, the new region might already be in the game.
We simply can't go there yet. The only thing they would have to do is, for example, to make a train go in Couriway Town, which can be activated without any DLC at all.

Just my thoughts and a very broad hypothesis with low accuracy.
So don't take my words for granted, I just wanted to inform you of this option.

It would be cool if they give use other Train pass

James169 October 17th, 2013 7:46 PM

If you look at the map of kalos that was released we do see a railway at around the area that couriway town is, the fact that they included it on that map suggests to me that it will be used at some stage

Lavans October 17th, 2013 7:57 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7887967)
The story for this one is long and the region itself is the largest region we've had in a while, both pokedex and size wise.

I don't know about G4 or G5, but I digress. The length of the story, depth of the story, and the size of the content in X/Y is far smaller than what we had in G1, G2, and G3. There is little to explore and the facilities/dungeons are small and lacking complexity. Not too long ago I picked up Fire Red and it took me nearly 50 hours to complete. There are people who are beating X/Y in approximately 25 hours or less. The ones who do some mini games on the side, such as myself, are pulling in the low to mid 30's. So no, compared to the first three generations, X/Y is nearly half the size of what we were given initially.

Also, the mini games in X/Y (while fun) are nothing more than a substitute for existing mechanics in the game that's been around for the last few generations at least. This is why, as a returning veteran to the Pokemon series after a half decade hiatus, I'm strongly hoping for some additional content.

Fading Tree October 17th, 2013 8:39 PM

G7 is in the works, and connects to Kalos, and expands the pokemon Mythos even farther.

I hope this post is not spam, but would you guys prefer a Gen 7 with the rail road connects to the new region or a RSE remake? ... just 1 game this time. Pokemon Emerald. Game Freak owes us for the shenagians of B2W2 instead of gray. (lol)

Just an Emerald Remake.

BradSainty October 18th, 2013 4:29 AM

The way he says 'Kalos is nice and all' makes me think that it wouldn't be something small or be wouldn't brag about this mystery region, it will be exciting finding out, but I don't think it will be released just yet, whatever it is

ImBlue October 18th, 2013 8:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Lavans (Post 7888061)
I don't know about G4 or G5, but I digress. The length of the story, depth of the story, and the size of the content in X/Y is far smaller than what we had in G1, G2, and G3. There is little to explore and the facilities/dungeons are small and lacking complexity. Not too long ago I picked up Fire Red and it took me nearly 50 hours to complete. There are people who are beating X/Y in approximately 25 hours or less. The ones who do some mini games on the side, such as myself, are pulling in the low to mid 30's. So no, compared to the first three generations, X/Y is nearly half the size of what we were given initially.

Also, the mini games in X/Y (while fun) are nothing more than a substitute for existing mechanics in the game that's been around for the last few generations at least. This is why, as a returning veteran to the Pokemon series after a half decade hiatus, I'm strongly hoping for some additional content.

This easily depends on the person

I know many people who have played 20 hours in X/Y. . .and have three badges. Meanwhile, back in the day I could beat the gen II games in 17 hours (although I'll grant you that my first playthrough took around 25 hours) and gens one and three were only a little bit behind. Although I agree there is a lot missing in these games; there isn't any Pokemon Contest/Musical/Pokeathlon type of thing anywhere and the extra locations were a bit disappointing. We'll have to wait, I suppose.

jellotime91 October 18th, 2013 9:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Lavans (Post 7888061)
I don't know about G4 or G5, but I digress. The length of the story, depth of the story, and the size of the content in X/Y is far smaller than what we had in G1, G2, and G3. There is little to explore and the facilities/dungeons are small and lacking complexity. Not too long ago I picked up Fire Red and it took me nearly 50 hours to complete. There are people who are beating X/Y in approximately 25 hours or less. The ones who do some mini games on the side, such as myself, are pulling in the low to mid 30's. So no, compared to the first three generations, X/Y is nearly half the size of what we were given initially.

Also, the mini games in X/Y (while fun) are nothing more than a substitute for existing mechanics in the game that's been around for the last few generations at least. This is why, as a returning veteran to the Pokemon series after a half decade hiatus, I'm strongly hoping for some additional content.

Uh... Maybe you haven't played Gen 1 or 3 in a while... But they are certainly not longer than X/Y. Gen 2 you could stretch out because of Kanto, but it was very barren and boring anyway.

Sun October 18th, 2013 11:17 AM

I think that secret place is akin to Sinjoh Ruins and the place that is located above the Spear Pillar.
In other words, it's just an event location. :)

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire October 18th, 2013 11:31 AM

Maybe Gf is getting ready for Gen VII...and this far away region will be where it takes place in. That'll be a shocker...with only two games in a generation...either that or GF plans to do something entirely new and introduce another region with new Pokémon in the same generation...that'll be unique...the data for the others could be after Zygarde in the national dex...

Lavans October 18th, 2013 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jellotime91 (Post 7888835)
Uh... Maybe you haven't played Gen 1 or 3 in a while... But they are certainly not longer than X/Y. Gen 2 you could stretch out because of Kanto, but it was very barren and boring anyway.

I have Emerald and Fire Red on my phone. I beat emerald in 38 hours, and beat Fire Red in 50. Not only did it take me longer while doing less side content than in X, I also found the core stories of the two to have a lot more depth than in X. Team Flare's existence and the conflict around them was shallow and abrupt.

jellotime91 October 18th, 2013 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lavans (Post 7888936)
I have Emerald and Fire Red on my phone. I beat emerald in 38 hours, and beat Fire Red in 50. Not only did it take me longer while doing less side content than in X, I also found the core stories of the two to have a lot more depth than in X. Team Flare's existence and the conflict around them was shallow and abrupt.

It has taken me over 95 hours to beat Black and White before.

That doesn't mean it's longer than X & Y. It just means it took me longer to finish them.

All games are too short when they first come out, because we're all excited and play them constantly for days, or at least for much longer each day than we would normally play a game.

RE: Story, that's subjective. I find X&Y's story to be far more interesting than Kanto or Hoenn.

bluecat October 20th, 2013 8:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PokéLoco (Post 7887998)
I think I might agree with this.
I don't think a completely new region unlikely. SoulSilver and Heartgold spanned two regions, so they are capable. Because I think in those games the Kanto side was rather rushed, I personally view it as just an experiment.

Also a technology I have seen used quite often lately, is to already add content we have no access to, or even way of knowing it's there.
What I mean is, instead of DLC, the new region might already be in the game.
We simply can't go there yet. The only thing they would have to do is, for example, to make a train go in Couriway Town, which can be activated without any DLC at all.

Just my thoughts and a very broad hypothesis with low accuracy.
So don't take my words for granted, I just wanted to inform you of this option.

Maybe something will happen when they open the Pokemon Bank in a few months...

They did go for a worldwide release that was mostly successful. Maybe they'll go for a worldwide event unlock? Or something of that nature? IDK, thinking out loud here. :/

nick 421 October 21st, 2013 1:16 AM

I think the train is probably the same case we have in Unova. If you see all those tracks it lead up to other parts! The train might simply be connected to Unova since both region seems to be closed together! (Parfum Palace Zekrom, Reshiram statue)

James169 October 21st, 2013 6:07 AM

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Originally Posted by nick 421 (Post 7893326)
I think the train is probably the same case we have in Unova. If you see all those tracks it lead up to other parts! The train might simply be connected to Unova since both region seems to be closed together! (Parfum Palace Zekrom, Reshiram statue)


They also say that unova used to be connected to kalos

metalhand October 23rd, 2013 11:11 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJU4yY5r0K0
Marriland gave meba good reason to believe there is gonna be a new region

Colress Machine October 23rd, 2013 11:34 AM

I don't think that you should check out my region guy is talking about DLC. It would be more likely for it to be a remake or new generation confirmation. Or just a troll to mess with fans haha.

metalhand October 23rd, 2013 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TheClassyOrca (Post 7897309)
I don't think that you should check out my region guy is talking about DLC. It would be more likely for it to be a remake or new generation confirmation. Or just a troll to mess with fans haha.

Anyway it at least confirms a game that take part in another place than kalos-new region or remake/sequel to old game.

Rivvon October 23rd, 2013 2:12 PM

I want to add something here about the region guy that I don't really see being discussed elsewhere:

I don't think he's referring to a spin-off game because he actually mentions different things about his region. The Serebii screenshot going around has him saying there's this "town" that we ought to see, but in my game he said they have a cool "facility." Facilities such as Battle Towers exist in spin-off games, but then I forgot to talk to him one day and he went back to his first saying. But instead of mentioning the facility again, he said "Our Champion is really something else!" No spin-off games have Champions because they don't have Gyms.

But what I think is really interesting is how he mentions various things to begin with. Sadly once you get the souvenir all he says is "It's not Kanto, Johto, etc." but I'm really curious as to what he said to other people.

(If this is mentioned in the Marriland video I apologize, I haven't had the opportunity to view it yet!)

Greenbeans October 23rd, 2013 2:47 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7884467)
They didn't really say that they weren't doing Paid DLC. They reconfirmed that there will be absolutely no DLC content for X and Y.



There won't be any DLC at all. What we have is what we get. Only things we can get now are the undiscovered event items and Pokemon.

They said that they feel adamant that their customers should not be feeling like they got an unfinished project. The article did not say once that there was no possibility for dlc. Just that they were thining about it and more information for it would not be released right away.
I completely disagree with your reasoning.
I would also like to state that seeing as the 3ds has been having dlc for many of its games i think it is very possible that x/y will be receiving dlc. It would not be big but it would still be something. And if they did do it they would not release it for money. That much is certain

Xander Olivieri October 23rd, 2013 3:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jerichob10 (Post 7897602)
They said that they feel adamant that their customers should not be feeling like they got an unfinished project. The article did not say once that there was no possibility for dlc. Just that they were thining about it and more information for it would not be released right away.
I completely disagree with your reasoning.
I would also like to state that seeing as the 3ds has been having dlc for many of its games i think it is very possible that x/y will be receiving dlc. It would not be big but it would still be something. And if they did do it they would not release it for money. That much is certain

If TPC and Gamefreak, which yes they've both stated that do not WANT to make DLCs for Pokemon X and Y and do not intend to make them, then we aren't getting any. I've never seen them say that they don't feel like they shouldn't because of the customers, I've seen them say that they won't and have no intention of doing so.

As for my reasoning, its there in your hands, written out on the net, you doubt what's before your very eyes. Go ahead, you are free to have your own opinion, but its been said, even at E3 they said they didn't intend to have any DLC. At the time they'd say they'd see about it, but didn't have any plans to do any DLC. Before launch they still said they have no plans and did not intend to work on any extra content.

There isn't going to be any Conventional DLC only our normal Mystery Gifts which aren't classified as DLC.

Aeroblast October 23rd, 2013 4:01 PM

There probably won't be any DLC. But there could still be a secret area needing some specific/event Pokemon like Sinjoh ruins type of deal as Makoto Tachibana pointed out.

Greenbeans October 23rd, 2013 4:05 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7897680)
If TPC and Gamefreak, which yes they've both stated that do not WANT to make DLCs for Pokemon X and Y and do not intend to make them, then we aren't getting any. I've never seen them say that they don't feel like they shouldn't because of the customers, I've seen them say that they won't and have no intention of doing so.

As for my reasoning, its there in your hands, written out on the net, you doubt what's before your very eyes. Go ahead, you are free to have your own opinion, but its been said, even at E3 they said they didn't intend to have any DLC. At the time they'd say they'd see about it, but didn't have any plans to do any DLC. Before launch they still said they have no plans and did not intend to work on any extra content.

There isn't going to be any Conventional DLC only our normal Mystery Gifts which aren't classified as DLC.

As of now I am satisfied with the game we have, I have no personal opinion in the matter, But the article that you posted had no solid evidence that there is not going to be any DLC.
So I don't necessarily have a personal opinion, what you posted in the article entails that it may be possible that DLC will arrive. not probable, But certainly possible.
If you want to prove to me that there will be absolutely no DLC I want to have an article that posts nor possibilities, but facts.
To be completely honest myself I doubt there will be any DLC but it may be possible that there will be now that it is out on 3ds.

If that cannot be proven then your theory is false and it could go either way.

Xander Olivieri October 23rd, 2013 4:33 PM

I guess its down to interpretation then. Intention is a yes or no street. They do not intend to make DLC. Both companies stated such. They do not intend then they will not make. If they will make or want to make, then they intend to make DLC, but they do not intend to make or produce DLC for Pokemon X and Y so they will not make, have no DLC in the works, do not forsee Pokemon DLC in the near future, or do not want to make DLC for Pokemon.

Take it as personal opinion if you will, but intent is everything when it comes to production. If you intend to do something it will be there, if you have no intention of doing it it won't be done. Neither company support the idea and have intentions to create them. We've got what we've got lets at least be happy about that.

Even Ken Sugimori has expressed his dislike of the concept, so three major figures to the Pokemon world have shown dislike for the concept of marketing DLC for the Pokemon games.

Not saying you aren't but there are people that aren't happy and want more.

L0RD G3NGAR October 23rd, 2013 5:43 PM

Guys that item the hiker or backer or w.e gives you might have to do with jirachi. Colloseum was in a diffrent region was it not?

Xander Olivieri October 23rd, 2013 5:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Flamebot (Post 7897852)
Guys that item the hiker or backer or w.e gives you might have to do with jirachi. Colloseum was in a diffrent region was it not?

According to Gamefreak based on other games, Orre does not exist. Pokemon from Orre transfered forward are from Hoenn. Since Colossuem is from a side game series and not part of the Main series games...Not made by Gamefreak. It doesn't "exist".

Tititienne October 23rd, 2013 5:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Flamebot (Post 7897852)
Guys that item the hiker or backer or w.e gives you might have to do with jirachi. Colloseum was in a diffrent region was it not?

Colosseum and XD where set in the Orre region (which is based of Phoenix, Arizona), but how would the Strange Souvenir be linked to Jirachi ? The description of the object says that it's supposed to depict a particular Pokémon, yet it looks like no known one.

My opinion is that there is a place we can't access right now (a place like the Sinjoh Ruins, or any other event places, but maybe a bit bigger) that holds new Pokémon (like the mysterious Diancie, Volcanion and Hoopa). In order to access it, we would have to download something like a train ticket via Mystery Gift.

jazneo October 23rd, 2013 5:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Tititienne (Post 7897870)
Colosseum and XD where set in the Orre region (which is based of Phoenix, Arizona), but how would the Strange Souvenir be linked to Jirachi ? The description of the object says that it's supposed to depict a particular Pokémon, yet it looks like no known one.

My opinion is that there is a place we can't access right now (a place like the Sinjoh Ruins, or any other event places, but maybe a bit bigger) that holds new Pokémon (like the mysterious Diancie, Volcanion and Hoopa). In order to access it, we would have to download something like a train ticket via Mystery Gift.

that what thinking going to happen. it waste a Resource just use one train to go to friend sarfari area

kevcrash October 23rd, 2013 6:18 PM

Saw this on facebook. It may or may not be a hint to a future DLC/extra that leads you to a new region, but take it as you will....


jazneo October 23rd, 2013 6:43 PM

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Originally Posted by WeightyWillBill (Post 7897911)
Saw this on facebook. It may or may not be a hint to a future DLC/extra that leads you to a new region, but take it as you will....


what if that region part met trade a pokemon with a berry from Japan to USA somehow change the berry to somthing else

Xander Olivieri October 23rd, 2013 7:29 PM

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Originally Posted by WeightyWillBill (Post 7897911)
Saw this on facebook. It may or may not be a hint to a future DLC/extra that leads you to a new region, but take it as you will....


There are actually about 14 Berries from the older games that haven't been located in X and Y.

The game gives you a good bit, from those you mutate others. Serebii's list of berries not available (not yet found) in X and Y.

Mutations:
Apicot, Ganlon, Grepa, Hondew, Kee, Kelpsy, Liechi, Maranga, Petaya, Pomeg, Qualot, Salac, and Tomato. (13)

Berries found in Wild Battles:

Cheri Berry, Chesto Berry, Pecha Berry, Rawst Berry, Aspear Berry, Leppa Berry, Oran Berry, Persim Berry, Lum Berry, Sitrus Berry, Figy Berry, Wiki Berry, mago Berry, Aguav Berry, Iapapa Berry, Occa Berry, Passho Berry, Wacan Berry, Rindo Berry, Yache Berry, Chople Berry, Kebia Berry, Shuca Berry, Coba Berry, Payapa Berry, Tanga Berry, Charti Berry, Kasib Berry, Haban Berry,Colbur Berry, Babiri Berry, Chilan Berry (32)

The ones in the wild battles are also found on the routes.

Ones not available in X and Y:

Belue, Bulk, Cornn, Custap, Durin, Enigma, Jaboca, Magost, Micle, Nanab, Nomel, Pamtre, Pinap, Rabuta, Razz, Rowap, Spelon, Starf,and Wepear (19)

Majority of these are the Berries that were only good for selling in B/W/B2/W2. They were only known for being Poffin/Pokeblock ingredients as well.

Enigma, Jacoba, Micle, Rowap, and Starf berries may not have been discovered yet and may be in X and Y. Enigma may also just be an Event Distribution Berry only as well. So take out these five, then we are left with 14 berries that have no practical use outside of being sold/Poffin/Pokeblock ingrediants.

These 14 may be the only ones that are not available in the games and can only be earned through some other means. Possibly another game to be released, or PGL mini games when they are set up.

Water Gym Leader October 23rd, 2013 8:25 PM

Maybe we are getting a stadium type game for the Wii U like XD or Colosseum. That could be the new region, but it could be Gen 7 coming sooner than we thought, or a Continuation of Gen 6 with new Pokemon programed into X and Y. Either way, new region.


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