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Jessie October 24th, 2013 6:24 AM

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But why does Pokemon need to be on a portable console? That concept made sense back in the gameboy days, but now everything is done through the internet anyway. Most people are playing Pokemon at home, and it's clear that the 3DS can not handle what GF wants to do with Pokemon anymore (evidenced by the 3DS's inability to process the game in 3D).
While it's true that they very well could make the games on a non-portable console, I don't think they would do well. Personally, I play at home MAYBE 1/4 of the time. MAYBE. I take my game to school, to friends houses, to my fiances house, to work, on vacation. And Pokemon is the best for plane and car rides! The portability of the game is what allows me to be able to play it so much. I'm not AGAINST them making a non-portable game, but honestly I'd never buy it (unless it was a different region or something).

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Do you own a 3DS? While it is obviously more portable than a console it's battery life sucks. You must carry the charger with you and always be near a plug.
That's strange. I've never changed any power settings (I never use 3D though...) and I usually have to charge my battery every other day or so (unless I do a ton of GTS/Wonder Trade).

Spinosaurus October 24th, 2013 8:34 AM

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Originally Posted by YesterdaysJam (Post 7898226)
I working in a gaming retailer in Australia and I can tell you there is very little interest in 3D World, let alone it being strong enough to kickstart the WiiU which currently struggles to attract anyone outside Nintendo tragics.

I need more than anecdotal evidence to get convinced on this one. There's very little demand for Pokemon games in where I live, but hey, look at the sales.

Water Gym Leader October 24th, 2013 8:45 AM

Why do you guys think X and Y are going on the Wii U? Why not another stadium game like Colosseum, XD or Battle Revolution?

jellotime91 October 24th, 2013 9:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Water Gym Leader (Post 7898736)
Why do you guys think X and Y are going on the Wii U? Why not another stadium game like Colosseum, XD or Battle Revolution?

I don't know about anyone else, but for me I do not actually think it would happen, I just think it would be a good idea for them to do it.

Jigglymilk October 24th, 2013 9:32 AM

VERY misleading thread... But I'm happy it doesn't exist all the same. Aside from games like PBR and stadium, main pokemon titles should only ever be on handhelds IMO.

Mr. X October 24th, 2013 9:34 AM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7897673)
Gamefreak and TPC have already confirmed that they have no intention of making DLC for Pokemon X and Pokemon Y.

And they've already proven themselves completely full of crap.

The distributions are a form of DLC, and as Blazikenite can't be obtained in t he base game and must be downloaded, then it can be consdiered to be made as a DLC.

Xander Olivieri October 24th, 2013 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. X (Post 7898804)
And they've already proven themselves completely full of crap.

The distributions are a form of DLC, and as Blazikenite can't be obtained in t he base game and must be downloaded, then it can be consdiered to be made as a DLC.

Distributions aren't DLCs as they can be distributed locally and they do not add outside content to the games through updated software rather they manipulate the code that already exists to give you something that is already in the game. This is not DLC.

disciplish October 24th, 2013 2:03 PM

After hearing about the supposed low amount of gameplay in X as well as Y, although I'm still working on beating it, I think what GameFreak meant was that they weren't going to have paid DLC. I've heard rumors about an update though; does that count?

Back to the original topic, I couldn't see [any main] Pokemon games on any other console besides my handheld. Which makes me pretty happy, because all I have is a Wii and my 3DS. But even if it were to be, I'm pretty sure there would be a counterpart of it on a handheld to not break tradition.

Water Gym Leader October 24th, 2013 3:08 PM

For all those who don't know, A DLC Is content not already in the game and is Downloaded and incorperated into the game. The gift Pokemon and gift Items are already programmed into the game just not physically there.

CronicHigh October 24th, 2013 3:23 PM

Let's face it..
Even a Pokemon game on the Wii U wouldn't save that console.

It would just be a frame rate improvement only if it were to land on the Wii U.
The Wii U only has 2GB of ram, and 1 of those goes to the gamepad.

Porting the game would not only be a waste of time, but a huge waste of money considering that literally no one has a Wii U.

jazneo October 24th, 2013 4:23 PM

i think nintendo should just forces on handheld device for there games. what point trying to make console is 3 year behind ps4, and xbox one

Pinkie-Dawn October 24th, 2013 5:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CronicHigh (Post 7899350)
Let's face it..
Even a Pokemon game on the Wii U wouldn't save that console.

It would just be a frame rate improvement only if it were to land on the Wii U.
The Wii U only has 2GB of ram, and 1 of those goes to the gamepad.

Porting the game would not only be a waste of time, but a huge waste of money considering that literally no one has a Wii U.

Tell that to the whole wad of cash Wind Waker HD is getting from the Wii U's eshop. Though regardless, GF has already stated that main Pokemon won't get ported to consoles nor smartphones, but that still won't stop the howler monkeys from getting what they want until it actually happens but won't buy it later on.

YesterdaysJam October 24th, 2013 7:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Spinosaurus (Post 7898705)
I need more than anecdotal evidence to get convinced on this one. There's very little demand for Pokemon games in where I live, but hey, look at the sales.

I laugh that you say you need more then anecdotal evidence, when I actually have a valid source for my opinion yet yours seems to be entirely dreamed up in your own mind?

Spinosaurus October 25th, 2013 8:59 AM

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Originally Posted by YesterdaysJam (Post 7899774)
I laugh that you say you need more then anecdotal evidence, when I actually have a valid source for my opinion yet yours seems to be entirely dreamed up in your own mind?

What source? All you said was "I work at a game store and nobody wants 3D World!". What reason is that for saying it? The game isn't even out yet. On top of that, you could be making it up. That's not evidence, that's just a statement, a blank one at that. It's the same way I can say there's very little people playing Pokemon in my area, so it's probably unpopular.

Look at the reaction for 3D World AFTER the trailer that was shown on this month's nintendo direct, then talk about "weak reception". Professional previews have been completely favorable to the game, even Pachter is telling people to buy a Wii U for it.

Helios93 October 25th, 2013 9:10 AM

I can't imagine having a main series pokemon games in a console. It feels awkward having to breed and Ev train pokemon while siting completely still while watching the action on TV.

bobandbill October 26th, 2013 3:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jellotime91 (Post 7897384)
It's been said many times that the Earth is flat. Nintendo has not yet used a telescope and seen the orbit of the planets. They have never done a full-scale Pokemon adventure on the console, only half-assed, awkward side games.

I don't follow how people saying the earth is flat centuries ago is comparable to game freak saying (multiple times) that they don't want to make main Pokemon games off the handhelds. Yeah, sure, they could always change their mind, but it doesn't change the fact that their intention is to remain on handhelds, not to move.

And why should they? It's not in their interest to develop for a console they don't dabble in. Nor are they Nintendo, so they won't care about selling the Wii U. That's up to other companies (Stadium and Colosseum and etc? All by other companies.). And their business plan works. You can't complain with millions of sales every gen, after all. Heck, the preorders sold out in Japan. I think they're managing just fine and don't have a reason to have the financial risk of developing on a home console and dropping one of the draws of Pokemon (Pocket Monsters ---> portability, as mentioned).
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Originally Posted by Spinosaurus (Post 7900708)
What source? All you said was "I work at a game store and nobody wants 3D World!". What reason is that for saying it? The game isn't even out yet. On top of that, you could be making it up. That's not evidence, that's just a statement, a blank one at that. It's the same way I can say there's very little people playing Pokemon in my area, so it's probably unpopular.

Look at the reaction for 3D World AFTER the trailer that was shown on this month's nintendo direct, then talk about "weak reception". Professional previews have been completely favorable to the game, even Pachter is telling people to buy a Wii U for it.

I wouldn't mind a source to that last one myself, because Pachter saying that is...quite something. =p


The Wii U could have done much better, sure, but it's not uncommon for gaming consoles to have a slow start. Heck, look at the PS3. That had a slow start and was panned by a lot of people for that. It sure improved on that front, no? Or a more related example - the 3DS. I think it's doing quite fine now, but earlier it got a lot of complaining about due to lack of games and etc. See how it goes after the Christmas period, and also after other games (e.g. DK).

As for having more pokemon games on the Wii U - well, I actually would quite like another Colosseum to come about. And that's not a half-bad chance of occurring sooner or later either, imo. But a game just like Game Freak's, by Game Freak, is unlikely to happen at best. After all, if they don't want to, nothing is going to make them. There is no strong reason in their interest to do it, and they're financially stable.

Spinosaurus October 26th, 2013 4:24 AM

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Originally Posted by bobandbill (Post 7902089)
I wouldn't mind a source to that last one myself, because Pachter saying that is...quite something. =p

Yeah, sure. Here you go. (Mind you, I remembered wrong, he told Nintendo fans to buy it, and it was 2 days before the new 3d world trailer. :P)

Stephen Totilo was the one very favorable to the game, by the way. I got mixed up. Pachter did tell fans to buy a Wii U, though.
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I saw lots and lots of good stuff, all in sharp HD graphics with what felt like a smoother-than-average framerate. Lately, if people ask if they need to get a Wii U, I tell them that it's a good system but not a must-have. I may well be singing a different tune after this game's out. It's really impressive.

Dakotah October 26th, 2013 6:12 AM

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Originally Posted by iAzire (Post 7897136)
Do you own a 3DS? While it is obviously more portable than a console it's battery life sucks. You must carry the charger with you and always be near a plug.

I disagree with your assessment of the 3DS battery life. I get plenty of game play before having to charge the unit, and I usually only have to charge the system once or twice per day. And I NEVER carry a charger with me. I've never needed to. Whenever I've taken the unit out on the road to and from work it's lasted me the whole time, with lots of game play time left during lunch and breaks plus more game play when I get home. BTW, the unit I own is a 3DS XL, much larger screen that puts more demands on the battery.

Stretch18 October 26th, 2013 1:27 PM

I wouldn't put X & Y on a console. I am hoping one year they make an amazing Pokemon game for a console though. Could be open world or close to it at least. Online play would be pretty sick too where you can walk around and everyone online you can see walking around: Trading, battling, etc. I believe there are endless options on a console whereas limited options on an handheld system.

YesterdaysJam October 26th, 2013 5:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 7897524)
The only Pokemon titles we'll be getting for Wii U are stadium-type titles and possibly PokePark titles (we've recently got a Rumble title). A main Pokemon game on a console will destroy the strongest point of the franchise: portibility. How are you suppose to obtain rare Pokemon or other version-exclusive features without trading? Plus, they're called "Pocket Monsters" for a reason.

How is portability the strongest point of the franchise? And you don't need portability to allow trading, we have this marvellous thing called the internet which would allow people to trade with friends not only within driving distance, but anywhere in the world...

Prog October 26th, 2013 6:32 PM

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Originally Posted by YesterdaysJam (Post 7903304)
How is portability the strongest point of the franchise? And you don't need portability to allow trading, we have this marvellous thing called the internet which would allow people to trade with friends not only within driving distance, but anywhere in the world...

Portability has been the selling point of the franchise for over 15 years. Adding internet functions to the game was simply using the already available hardware and software on the handheld itself. Yes, there IS a lovely thing called the internet, and it's helped out the Pokemon franchise tremendously. You can take your handhelds around to people's houses and play the game with them MUCH easier than lugging around a console. Portability is what makes this game, bottom line. Also, I enjoy my friends coming over and all of us being able to play the game at the same time, and that's only viable on the handheld systems.

9000chainz October 26th, 2013 10:05 PM

Nothing says "there's a reason why you've been on YouTube for almost a year and only have 51 subscribers" like a misleading title.

caza October 27th, 2013 12:28 AM

I wouldn't mine having a pokemon add on game like, pokemon ranch where you could raise and play with your pokemon sent from your hand held game. You also got items that you can send to the ds game.

YesterdaysJam October 28th, 2013 6:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 9000chainz (Post 7903841)
Nothing says "there's a reason why you've been on YouTube for almost a year and only have 51 subscribers" like a misleading title.

Firstly, given the production value of your videos, I wouldn't be throwing stones...It's called a tripod. Secondly if you look, we uploaded our first video in late Feb and have been inactive for a decent chunk of time since then.

Finally, and back on topic, technically the title is not misleading, nobody said confirmed meant it was confirmed to exist.


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