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Kenna October 26th, 2013 1:51 PM

Worst post story since Red and Blue?
 
Now before I get flamed, the game is great, the story although a bit childish is great, but once I finished the game and got bored of breeding and doing multiplayer battles I clicked on that there is nothing to do once you finish the game.

You can go hunting for the stones, legendarys and items but that is about it, even Leaf Green and Fire Red had more to do post story.

Am I the only one who thinks that this is a huge step backwards considering B/W and many other recent Pokemon game post storys?

Kiara October 26th, 2013 1:55 PM

I feel kind of disappointed myself. I've been spending a lot of time shiny hunting and stuff so I'm not bored yet, but there was a very big lack of actual content after the elite four/ending part.

metalhand October 26th, 2013 1:56 PM

Yea the post-game very boring, but thats always the case. Gamefreak making the post game so the third game/sequel will have more content.

Decimosoma October 26th, 2013 2:01 PM

You also need to know that BW2 are remakes/sequels to the original, which didn't had any interesting post-game content as well. Yes, I agree that the post-game content is horrible. That is almost always corrected in their remake/sequel of the games.

L0RD G3NGAR October 26th, 2013 2:03 PM

Black and Whites Post game were horrible imo. I've heard X&Y's are to.

Kenna October 26th, 2013 2:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Flamebot (Post 7902896)
Black and Whites Post game were horrible imo. I've heard X&Y's are to.

There wasn't that much to do but I liked the idea of having 3 cities still to discover and explore after you finish the game, and in BW2 I liked the tournament's fighting leaders from other regions and such.

Rivvon October 26th, 2013 2:08 PM

After playing the Looker post-game quests I can honestly say, no, this game has a pretty solid post-game. Is it as good as B2W2? No. Is it better than gen 1, or BW? Yes, definitely. The Looker quests are great and there's a fair amount of them. The story they add to the game is quite lovely, too.

L0RD G3NGAR October 26th, 2013 2:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenna (Post 7902899)
There wasn't that much to do but I liked the idea of having 3 cities still to discover and explore after you finish the game, and in BW2 I liked the tournament's fighting leaders from other regions and such.

I have not played BW2. I here that X&Y had a decent story tho.

Jigglymilk October 26th, 2013 2:16 PM

Nah. All the games have fairly decent post games, with the exception of red and blue, where pretty much all there is to do is catch mewtwo. Johto was great because you get to go back to kanto (will never understand why they haven't done something like that again) but after that, there's not much. Hoenn was meh. Can't really remember what you can do except get rayquaza and play in that tournament thing. Sinnoh has a lot of nice new places to visit. Unova had the black/white tower which was really fun. And Kalos has the amazing friend safari, lots of mega stones to get, and a few other extras, but not much. Really though, all post games after gen 3 were fine and hard to get bored of thanks to online battles. It makes catching them all and building a multitude of diverse teams truly worth doing.

ramibas299 October 26th, 2013 2:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenna (Post 7902866)
the story although a bit childish is great

Not to be a dick or anything... but this is Pokemon you know....

Kenna October 26th, 2013 2:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ramibas299 (Post 7902931)
Not to be a dick or anything... but this is Pokemon you know....

Yeah I understand but I liked how in BW they managed to make the story dark yet not too dark, I love'd the story and the whole build up to the final showdown was amazing, never had that epic feeling since I first battled Blue in RB, I also love'd the fact that Plasma despite the fact that their leader was truly evil actually had a good cause to their work.

Flare just felt like Rocket again.

Spinosaurus October 26th, 2013 2:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenna (Post 7902950)
Yeah I understand but I liked how in BW they managed to make the story dark yet not too dark, I love'd the story and the whole build up to the final showdown was amazing, never had that epic feeling since I first battled Blue in RB, I also love'd the fact that Plasma despite the fact that their leader was truly evil actually had a good cause to their work.

Flare just felt like Rocket again.

I don't get this post.

Team Plasma were much more Team Rocket than Flare. B/W's theme wasn't any darker than X/Y's. (X/Y deals with mass genocide anyway so if anything it's way darker). Besides, N is a terrible character, and B/W's story was just way too cliche and cringe worthy, not to mention it ruined the pacing of the game. I'm glad they went back to the simplicity of the old games.

Also, B/W's finale had a build up? What? It actually happened instantaneously with no warning. You were about to fight the champion, but then all of a sudden a castle pops up and hey, you're fighting the legendary now. That's no build up, that's just a stupid twist that should not have happened. X/Y actually HAD a build up and well-done one too, and it wasn't a detriment to the main game as well, because you'll at least fight the damned champion.



Back to the post-game thing. I disagree, Looker's mini story is better than anything from the previous post games, or maybe it's because I'm into detective stories anyway.

Pendraflare October 26th, 2013 2:52 PM

No, Ruby/Sapphire's post-game is the worst since RB. At least this has the Looker side quest and big battle rematches in the Battle Chateau, while BW had Elite Four rematches and the Sage search. RS had nothing other than Rayquaza and the Battle Tower.

But yeah, I haven't really bothered to play much of the post-game either. Not that much to do afterward from what i've played so far.

Perriechu October 26th, 2013 2:56 PM

Pretty much all of the first two games in the trio/quartets have a pretty small post-game. I'd say Diamond and Pearl had the strongest, though.

The third version/sequel will have more.

and lol childish storyline? wanting to rid the world of everything to make it beautiful again is pretty dark tbh.

Kenna October 26th, 2013 3:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dragonomega (Post 7902997)
Pretty much all of the first two games in the trio/quartets have a pretty small post-game. I'd say Diamond and Pearl had the strongest, though.

The third version/sequel will have more.

and lol childish storyline? wanting to rid the world of everything to make it beautiful again is pretty dark tbh.

When you put the plot like that it sounds dark but there is just something about it, I can't put my finger on that makes it not seem as dark as it should be.

Spinosaurus October 26th, 2013 3:06 PM

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Originally Posted by novachief37 (Post 7902993)
No, Ruby/Sapphire's post-game is the worst since RB. At least this has the Looker side quest and big battle rematches in the Battle Chateau, while BW had Elite Four rematches and the Sage search. RS had nothing other than Rayquaza and the Battle Tower.

But R/S/E has the cool regi/braille thing and if you're like me and found that out on your own then it's the best post game ever.
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Originally Posted by Kenna (Post 7903017)
When you put the plot like that it sounds dark but there is just something about it, I can't put my finger on that makes it not seem as dark as it should be.

It's the subtlety of it which makes it more appreciable. They don't straight tell you they're gonna kill everyone, unlike B/W where every single thing had to be explained in detail for some reason..

Nick October 26th, 2013 3:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenna (Post 7902950)
Yeah I understand but I liked how in BW they managed to make the story dark yet not too dark, I love'd the story and the whole build up to the final showdown was amazing, never had that epic feeling since I first battled Blue in RB, I also love'd the fact that Plasma despite the fact that their leader was truly evil actually had a good cause to their work.

Flare just felt like Rocket again.

We're talking about a team who tried to take Pokémon all to themselves (or, rather, himself) versus a team who literally wanted to kill every single thing on the planet outside of their team. I'm not really sure how Black and White gets the props for being darker there.

Flare did feel like Rocket, I'll give you that, but I mean, so did Team Plasma and Team Galactic, and Team Magma and Team Aqua. To me, at least.

Goatie October 26th, 2013 3:21 PM

Did someone just say the story was childish? With all due respect but Team Flare attempted genocide on Kalos- Heck on the whole world.

That doesn't seem childish to me.

..and they wanted to KILL POKÉMON! WHO DOES THAT?!

L0RD G3NGAR October 26th, 2013 3:30 PM

I felt for over all story Hoenn was the best. Tho, I haven't played X&Y yet so idk if X&Y's is better.

TreeKangaroo October 26th, 2013 3:33 PM

Genocide is not childish. And look at the phone name: HOLO CASTER. Oh and Y had suicide while B2/W2 Ghetsis became depressed forever. With the exception of Johto, all of the first 2 series of a generation had little post game but then a third version comes up and fixes everything. Hell, in platinum you can finish the entire Pokedex without trade.

I.T. October 26th, 2013 3:48 PM

I can't answer seeing as though I haven't even beat the game yet (I've had the game for exactly 2 weeks now). Reason for it is that it's not that I don't have enough time to play, seeing as though I've put in 90+ hours into the game, it's just that I get side tracked too much during my journey.

I'm honestly getting tired of Gamefreak making us wait 1-2 years for a "completed" version of a Generation's first pair of games. So damn annoying.

L0RD G3NGAR October 26th, 2013 3:59 PM

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Originally Posted by IAm2Sarcastic4U (Post 7903106)
I can't answer seeing as though I haven't even beat the game yet (I've had the game for exactly 2 weeks now). Reason for it is that it's not that I don't have enough time to play, seeing as though I've put in 90+ hours into the game, it's just that I get side tracked too much during my journey.

I'm honestly getting tired of Gamefreak making us wait 1-2 years for a "completed" version of a Generation's first pair of games. So damn annoying.

They dont add to much more post game events in sequels anyways (Not sure about b2/w2) So completed versions dont offer To much more.

Pendraflare October 26th, 2013 5:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TreeKangaroo (Post 7903079)
B2/W2 Ghetsis became depressed forever.

Apparently, it's worse than that. From what I read on TV Tropes, he becomes a "non-functioning gibbering vegetable" as a result of his insanity. In the post-game, the Shadow Triad even say "he can't do anything anymore", after correcting them saying he "won't".

And to the above post, BW2 does add the Black Tower/White Treehollow and the PWT, along with the entire half of Southeastern Unova, and some tougher trainers (i.e. Colress) in addition to giving rewards for Pokédex completion. YMMV as to whether you think that compensates for not having a Battle Frontier, however. It's surely better than BW's, if nothing else.

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Originally Posted by Spinosaurus
But R/S/E has the cool regi/braille thing and if you're like me and found that out on your own then it's the best post game ever.

You can do that before beating the game, though.

Cyclone October 26th, 2013 7:34 PM

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Originally Posted by IAm2Sarcastic4U (Post 7903106)
I'm honestly getting tired of Gamefreak making us wait 1-2 years for a "completed" version of a Generation's first pair of games. So damn annoying.

Their thinking: if they complete the story now, will you buy the other games in the generation? Z (presumed title) will not have the first part of the story and will be done as a continuation, most likely. I still wish we had a Gray in Unova that reopened Route 10 and connected it through an alternate path and a new set of areas to Anville Town, but that's just me. I guess that story was finished.

crystalzapdos October 26th, 2013 7:36 PM

I'm not sure why people are surprised. All the post game stuff comes in the third version. It's been like this for every game. At least this time we have all the online features to keep us entertained.


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