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Mr. X October 26th, 2013 7:13 PM

X/Y Pokemon file's dumped, sucuessfully edited
 
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Pokécheck owner Xfr and Pokécheck administrator/Project Pokémon Super Mod Bond697 have dumped, decrypted, and documented the Pokémon X and Y Pokémon file format.

The Pokémon files have been given a new file type, PKX, to match their new format. They've grown quite a bit both in size and the types of data they contain. With the limited amount of information currently available, access to PKX files provides some new insights into how this latest generation of Pokémon titles functions internally. There is more information to come as they continue work on updating Pokécheck for gen 6.
http://projectpokemon.org/news.php?article=129

Format info
http://projectpokemon.org/wiki/Pokemon_X/Y_3DS_Structure

Forum Topic (Additional details)
http://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?33024-Pkx-The-New-Pokemon-Format-For-Gen-6&p=174103#post174103

We hackmon now :)

Flushed October 26th, 2013 7:17 PM

Ehhh, I don't know how I feel about this. I don't know too much about PokeCheck, other than I got all my perfect IV shinies from there in Gen. 5, but I felt completely guilty. I don't want to be tempted to do the same in Gen. 6.

L0RD G3NGAR October 26th, 2013 7:19 PM

I feel stupid, but what does this mean?

Moist October 26th, 2013 7:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Flamebot (Post 7903535)
I feel stupid, but what does this mean?

Pokecheck is a website that can let you generate any pokemon, any evs, ivs, moves etc (Doesn't matter if they are legal or not) and send them to your game. Right now it does not work for Gen 6, only Gen 5, but that is obviously going to change.

L0RD G3NGAR October 26th, 2013 7:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GreatTornado (Post 7903549)
Pokecheck is a website that can let you generate any pokemon, any evs, ivs, moves etc (Doesn't matter if they are legal or not) and send them to your game. Right now it does not work for Gen 6, only Gen 5, but that is obviously going to change.

Greatttttt, so another generation that will be ruined by hackers. How awesome, Is this gonna effect the gts to? Becuase I know it will effect Competitive battles D:

Flushed October 26th, 2013 7:32 PM

The Pokemon come with a ribbon that bans them from GTS and I believe online battles too, I can't remember tbh. And this was 5th gen, with the new data formats who knows.

L0RD G3NGAR October 26th, 2013 7:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Flush'd (Post 7903569)
The Pokemon come with a ribbon that bans them from GTS and I believe online battles too, I can't remember tbh. And this was 5th gen, with the new data formats who knows.

Well I hope they will still be banned from online, because if they make it so they wont it will make online really suck if they did.

Kanzler October 26th, 2013 7:40 PM

Awesome! Can't wait to see emulation kick off due to this!

Aeroblast October 26th, 2013 7:44 PM

I knew about this already but this was going to be inevitable, really. Matter of time.

L0RD G3NGAR October 26th, 2013 7:44 PM

I really hope these pokemon will stay banned from the gts and Competitive battles. Then atleast they wont affect online gameplay.

Flushed October 26th, 2013 7:47 PM

Well eventually you get the people who RNG and stuff who're gonna figure this stuff out. I assumed a majority of competitive players didn't settle for less than perfect 'mons. :/

L0RD G3NGAR October 26th, 2013 7:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Flush'd (Post 7903606)
Well eventually you get the people who RNG and stuff who're gonna figure this stuff out. I assumed a majority of competitive players didn't settle for less than perfect 'mons. :/

Yes but they can learn ANY move? Even moves that they can't? And I guess it wont be so bad. I guess I could learn how to breed perfect iv'd pokemon D:

Flushed October 26th, 2013 7:55 PM

Well yeah, but I'd like to think that a majority of people would be respectable battlers and wouldn't do that.

And at least Wonderguard Spiritomb won't work anymore haha.

L0RD G3NGAR October 26th, 2013 7:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Flush'd (Post 7903629)
Well yeah, but I'd like to think that a majority of people would be respectable battlers and wouldn't do that.

And at least Wonderguard Spiritomb won't work anymore haha.


Well, I wonder if they will be able to edit crit rate and stuff now because of pokemon aime. And thats kinda why I think they wonder be able to be used in battle, because of the ones that are not respectable

Mr. X October 26th, 2013 7:59 PM

Even though they would be banned from the gts and competive, it would still affect them.

Would make breeding a lot easier. Natures, abilities, stats... All can be affected by using a hacked parent.

Edit - Wonderguard Spiritomb is a wimp. He's easy to kill.

L0RD G3NGAR October 26th, 2013 8:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. X (Post 7903641)
Even though they would be banned from the gts and competive, it would still affect them.

Would make breeding a lot easier. Natures, abilities, stats... All can be affected by using a hacked parent.

As long as they stay banned, I'm cool with it. And arn't these called Pokesavs? Or something?

Mr. X October 26th, 2013 8:03 PM

It's the name of the first program made to modify them yeah.

Although Pokegen is superior to it now.

L0RD G3NGAR October 26th, 2013 8:06 PM

Alright. I just hope they dont find a way to unban them for competitive and gts.

Flushed October 26th, 2013 8:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. X (Post 7903641)
Even though they would be banned from the gts and competive, it would still affect them.

Would make breeding a lot easier. Natures, abilities, stats... All can be affected by using a hacked parent.

Edit - Wonderguard Spiritomb is a wimp. He's easy to kill.

Direct impact isn't as dire. Besides, people find legal ways to get all those.

And seeing as I never ran status/Mold Breaker that was enough to be walled completely.

L0RD G3NGAR October 26th, 2013 8:11 PM

I was tierd off seeing all these shiny Zekrom and Reshirams everywhere last gen. T'was annoying. So lets hope that nobody will find legal ways to get shiny legendarys into the gts

SnowpointQuincy October 26th, 2013 8:13 PM

PokeCheck DOES NOT GENERATE ORININAL POKEMON FILES OR EDIT THEM. (there are other places to make hacks. and this new development will allow those to happen.)

It ONLY reads data on your cartrige and stores it on the site. On the site you can CHECK the IV and EV on you pokemon in an easy to read spread sheet.

You are ONLY allowed to clone YOUR OWN Pokemon IF your cartridge is registered to your account.

You can download other people's Pokemon, but they are MARKED with a Ribbon banning them from WiFi TRADES and BATTLES.

I use PokeCheck to READ MY OWN IVs and BACK-UP (just in case) my pokemon.

L0RD G3NGAR October 26th, 2013 8:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SnowpointQuincy (Post 7903682)
PokeCheck DOES NOT GENERATE ORININAL POKEMON FILES OR EDIT THEM. (there are other places to make hacks. and this new development will allow those to happen.)

It ONLY reads data on your cartrige and stores it on the site. On the site you can CHECK the IV and EV on you pokemon in an easy to read spread sheet.

You are ONLY allowed to clone YOUR OWN Pokemon IF your cartridge is registered to your account.

You can download other people's Pokemon, but they are MARKED with a Ribbon banning them from WiFi TRADES and BATTLES.

I use PokeCheck to READ MY OWN IVs and BACK-UP (just in case) my pokemon.

Yes, but with this people will find ways to make those pokemon legal probally, so like they might eventually find ways to remove the ribbons that ban them.

Mr. X October 26th, 2013 8:28 PM

A save editor would do that, although it would be a lot harder since X/Y uses nand memory for saves instead of nor memory.

L0RD G3NGAR October 26th, 2013 8:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. X (Post 7903708)
A save editor would do that, although it would be a lot harder since X/Y uses nand memory for saves instead of regular flash.

Lol. Whatever, I'm sure it wont effect online gameplay TO MUCH.

Moist October 26th, 2013 9:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Team Fail (Post 7903755)
Actually, Pokécheck is a site where you can upload/download Pokémon to/from your games, as well as check legitimacy of Pokémon. It's almost like a public version of Pokémon Bank. You're thinking of Pokésav, which is a computer program.

Oh my... Seems I confused Pokecheck with Pokestation/Pokecheats (Online Pokesav)...

9000chainz October 26th, 2013 9:46 PM

I don't cheat, but that's only because I've been breeding and selling perfect IV pokemon since I was 13. I firmly believe the IV system is a load of crap, and it is understandable that people want to get around that. There's no reason why TWO SETS of numbers you cannot see affect the outcome of your pokemon's stats. EVs can be changed at least. But since you can't see IVs, if you EV train your pokemon and then when it gets to 100 and the stats you trained them in are sub-par, IVs say "well I guess you're screwed"


I was hoping they'd abolish the stat changes for IVs and just kept it to determining Hidden Power. It's why I almost don't blame people for using Pokegen in this game, but that line breaks at things like Shiny Celebis and Deoxys with Close Combat.

On the topic of files, I clicked this thread in the hopes of the coding being revealed for X and Y to have a bunch of hidden stuff.

nick 421 October 26th, 2013 9:46 PM

They need to find hidden pokemon and Megas before nintendo and GF finds about this!
People is reporting this to nintendo already!

Brolijah October 26th, 2013 10:04 PM

Hallelujah!! Finally~ I've been looking forward to this! If they can setup the false / crack the GTS for Gen 6, then it'll mean 2 things:
- PokeCheck for Gen 6 goes up.
- Other people use the base information and upgrade programs, such as PokeGen.
I'm not particularly fond of the latter happening, but the former I'm stoked to see happen. I relied on PokeCheck as backup and hack checking, as well as a resource for parents to breed with. Stat checking will also become much more accessible, but stat generating will also grow from there... I do have to say, I'm kinda curious as to what those unknown values are for in the .PKX code are.

Z25 October 26th, 2013 10:47 PM

I'd never use pokecheck, but i hope they find the legends, shiny rate, and tipping and strange souvenir's purpose.

ChaoTachi October 26th, 2013 10:58 PM

Well that was quicker than I expected

Mr. X October 27th, 2013 8:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elija (Post 7903838)
Hallelujah!! Finally~ I've been looking forward to this! If they can setup the false / crack the GTS for Gen 6, then it'll mean 2 things:
- PokeCheck for Gen 6 goes up.
- Other people use the base information and upgrade programs, such as PokeGen.
I'm not particularly fond of the latter happening, but the former I'm stoked to see happen. I relied on PokeCheck as backup and hack checking, as well as a resource for parents to breed with. Stat checking will also become much more accessible, but stat generating will also grow from there... I do have to say, I'm kinda curious as to what those unknown values are for in the .PKX code are.

The second isn't a possibility, at least for a lot of players. X/Y don't have a seperate save chip - It's all on a single nand chip. If you have a physical copy you'd have to dump the cart, extract the save data, decrypt, modify the data, recrypt, replace the save data, and then reflash the cart.

Easier for digital copies though - The save is stored on the sd card (I think?).

Tailsko October 27th, 2013 5:16 PM

If it's possible with the digital copies. Then one could trade it to a friend and have that friend trade it to the retail copy or figure out when Pokemon Bank comes out in December, intercept the PKX file and send a hacked one back to 6th gen.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire October 27th, 2013 5:55 PM

I was hoping they wouldn't figure it out :(

Helios93 October 27th, 2013 6:06 PM

Breeding in gen 6 has never been much more easier. Why on earth do we need Pokecheck for gen 6? Is it too hard to check on IVs with the Judge? I just hope the RNGng era will stop.

MrDollSteak October 27th, 2013 7:02 PM

The main reason I'm happy with Pokecheck finding this out, is that
I can now back up the pokemon I've bred. It's better than Pokemon
Bank, in this sense that, Pokebank stores the Pokemon, rather than
copying them. So if a glitch happens with the server you lose your
Pokemon. Whereas Pokecheck, has copies of them, which you can
then transfer back to your game if something happens to your game.

SnowpointQuincy October 27th, 2013 8:17 PM

If people want to battle with the "Perfect" Pokemon, they could save themselves a lot of time by using Showdown. They wouldn't have to waste time IV breeding, they could just plug the numbers into a field and be done with it.

That way, WiFi would be exclusive to people playing the game with Legit pokemon and not have to worry about hacks and RNG abused Juggernauts making it impossible to have a fair battle.

Honestly, they easiest way to do this is IGNORE IVs in WiFi battles. EV/IV only exist to make each Pokemon unique from others of the same species. NOT to give unfair advantage to Players.

Games are more fun when winning is decided by Choices, not randomized hidden values.

(that being said, I do breed for IVs, but I would be all in favor of abandoning the whole idea of IVs.)

rivinus October 27th, 2013 9:51 PM

I hope this does not affect online play that much. I really enjoy breeding this gen.

Superjub October 28th, 2013 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. X (Post 7903641)
Even though they would be banned from the gts and competive, it would still affect them.

Would make breeding a lot easier. Natures, abilities, stats... All can be affected by using a hacked parent.

Edit - Wonderguard Spiritomb is a wimp. He's easy to kill.

Not only that, but he's weak to Fairy moves now :P

Cyclone October 28th, 2013 7:58 AM

To those complaining that hacked Pokémon make breeding of legit. overpowered Pokémon too easy:

I see your complaint and raise it by a perfect Japanese Ditto holding a Destiny Knot.

HUF_DBC October 28th, 2013 12:39 PM

I'm still confused how this works, could we send Gen 2 pokemon like cyndaquil to our 3ds or is it entirely different?

Peter Quill October 28th, 2013 12:51 PM

I used Pokecheck for my breeding operations to check exactly the IVs of the Pokemon I am breeding and if I have Pokemon which are not hacked. Aside from that, nothing else. I really love Pokemon X/Y because of the great improvements in the breeding mechanics.

Well, it was only a matter of time :)

Typhizard October 29th, 2013 2:59 AM

Oh gosh, I hope the metagame remains unhacked.


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