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iiKontaii October 26th, 2013 9:24 PM

Suggestions for my XY poketeam
 
So, I want to make a good poketeam, but my knowledge of pokemon is very minimal.

My currently line up:

Absol : Lonely
Sucker Punch
Swords Dance
Psycho Cut
Night Slash
__________________________

Sylveon : Modest
Dazzling Gleam
Moonblast
Misty Terrain
Draining Kiss
__________________________

Greninja : Rash
Substitute
Waterfall
Surf
Hydropump
___________________________

Venusuar : Timid
Strength
Petal Blizzard
Solar Beam
Synthesis
___________________________

Charizard : Hardy
Fire Spin
Flamethrower
Fly
Dragon Rage
___________________________

Blaziken : Sassy
Flare Blitz
Blaze Kick
Sky Uppercut
Brave Bird

Exitosus October 26th, 2013 9:27 PM

its ok for PVE...PVP you need to add IV's Evs and so on so we can tell you if its good...

Personally i dont like using any Ubers on my team, so Blaziken is out. Absol i really dont like either along with greninja, since they both can be swept by scizors an or a modest GrowthSaur

iiKontaii October 26th, 2013 9:40 PM

I never really understood IV and EV's > < My Absol and Sylveon are the only ones I've super trained though.

Sylveon I maxxed SP atk and SP def
Absol I maxed Attack and Speed.

Both used left over points on HP

PlatinumDude October 26th, 2013 10:49 PM

You'll have to do some re-breeding on your Pokemon, I'm afraid.

Absol gained Play Rough as an egg move. Mega Absol can use Magic Bounce to prevent status from screwing it over by bouncing it back at the opponent:
-Swords Dance
-Sucker Punch
-Play Rough
-Fire Blast/Baton Pass/Night Slash
Nature: Hasty/Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Absolite/Life Orb
Ability: Super Luck

or
-Sucker Punch
-Play Rough
-Fire Blast/Ice Beam
-Protect
Nature: Hasty/Naive
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Absolite/Life Orb
Ability: Super Luck

Sylveon essentially functions as an Umbreon that can actually fight back. Take advantage of that fact. Also, Misty Terrain is essentially an inferior Safeguard for grounded Pokemon. Moonblast is vastly superior over Dazzling Gleam as an offensive Fairy move; not only is it stronger, it also has a chance of lowering the opponent's Special Attack. Draining Kiss' low base power makes it not worth using, despite the healing side-effect. You have all three moves listed on Sylveon, but you're better off using Moonblast as a whole. Max out HP first before you aim for the defenses; your current spread squanders its overall bulk:
-Wish
-Protect
-Moonblast
-Shadow Ball/Toxic
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
Item: Leftovers

Greninja's offensive movepool is rather good. Giving it all-Water moves isn't a good idea:
-Hydro Pump/Surf
-Dark Pulse
-Ice Beam
-Grass Knot
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb

Greninja's Dream World/Hidden Ability is Protean, so you can take advantage of that ability by having it essentially gain STAB (Same Type Attack Bonus; this means that if a Pokemon uses a move with the same type as its own, that move gets stronger) on all its moves. The above set works with this ability, but here's a different take by supporting the team with Spikes to help wear down grounded opponents:
-Spikes
-Hydro Pump
-Ice Beam
-U-turn
Nature: Hasty/Naive
EVs: 4 Atk/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Focus Sash/Leftovers
Ability: Protean

Venusaur is only good as a Mega (due to its increased defenses and Thick Fat) or a Chlorophyll attacker (this isn't a Sun team, so the latter set won't work here). Both Strength and Petal Blizzard are physical moves and they work off of the lowered Attack that Timid brings. SolarBeam only sees use on Sun teams because the sunlight skips its charge turn:
-Sleep Powder
-Leech Seed
-Energy Ball/Giga Drain
-Sludge Bomb
Nature: Modest/Timid
EVs: 252 HP/252 SAtk/4 SDef or 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Venusaurite/Black Sludge

For Charizard, you have a multitude of options. All three of its forms perform well, given the right support. I'd use regular Charizard or Charizard X on this team because not all of your Pokemon benefit from the Drought that Charizard Y brings:

Regular:
-Fire Blast
-Air Slash
-Focus Blast/Hidden Power (Grass)
-Flamethrower
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Specs/Choice Scarf

Charizard X:
-Dragon Dance/Swords Dance
-Flare Blitz
-Dragon Claw/Outrage
-Earthquake/Roost
Nature: Jolly/Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Charizardite X

Sassy is a terrible nature for Blaziken to have. It ruins the point of Speed Boost (by lowering Blaziken's Speed), which makes it harder to revenge kill the longer it stays on the field:
-Swords Dance
-Flare Blitz
-High Jump Kick
-Protect/Baton Pass
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Leftovers/Life Orb/Blazikenite
Ability: Speed Boost

iiKontaii October 27th, 2013 5:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PlatinumDude (Post 7903901)
You'll have to do some re-breeding on your Pokemon, I'm afraid.

Absol gained Play Rough as an egg move. Mega Absol can use Magic Bounce to prevent status from screwing it over by bouncing it back at the opponent:
-Swords Dance
-Sucker Punch
-Play Rough
-Fire Blast/Baton Pass/Night Slash
Nature: Hasty/Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Absolite/Life Orb
Ability: Super Luck

or
-Sucker Punch
-Play Rough
-Fire Blast/Ice Beam
-Protect
Nature: Hasty/Naive
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Absolite/Life Orb
Ability: Super Luck

Sylveon essentially functions as an Umbreon that can actually fight back. Take advantage of that fact. Also, Misty Terrain is essentially an inferior Safeguard for grounded Pokemon. Moonblast is vastly superior over Dazzling Gleam as an offensive Fairy move; not only is it stronger, it also has a chance of lowering the opponent's Special Attack. Draining Kiss' low base power makes it not worth using, despite the healing side-effect. You have all three moves listed on Sylveon, but you're better off using Moonblast as a whole. Max out HP first before you aim for the defenses; your current spread squanders its overall bulk:
-Wish
-Protect
-Moonblast
-Shadow Ball/Toxic
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
Item: Leftovers

Greninja's offensive movepool is rather good. Giving it all-Water moves isn't a good idea:
-Hydro Pump/Surf
-Dark Pulse
-Ice Beam
-Grass Knot
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb

Greninja's Dream World/Hidden Ability is Protean, so you can take advantage of that ability by having it essentially gain STAB (Same Type Attack Bonus; this means that if a Pokemon uses a move with the same type as its own, that move gets stronger) on all its moves. The above set works with this ability, but here's a different take by supporting the team with Spikes to help wear down grounded opponents:
-Spikes
-Hydro Pump
-Ice Beam
-U-turn
Nature: Hasty/Naive
EVs: 4 Atk/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Focus Sash/Leftovers
Ability: Protean

Venusaur is only good as a Mega (due to its increased defenses and Thick Fat) or a Chlorophyll attacker (this isn't a Sun team, so the latter set won't work here). Both Strength and Petal Blizzard are physical moves and they work off of the lowered Attack that Timid brings. SolarBeam only sees use on Sun teams because the sunlight skips its charge turn:
-Sleep Powder
-Leech Seed
-Energy Ball/Giga Drain
-Sludge Bomb
Nature: Modest/Timid
EVs: 252 HP/252 SAtk/4 SDef or 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Venusaurite/Black Sludge

For Charizard, you have a multitude of options. All three of its forms perform well, given the right support. I'd use regular Charizard or Charizard X on this team because not all of your Pokemon benefit from the Drought that Charizard Y brings:

Regular:
-Fire Blast
-Air Slash
-Focus Blast/Hidden Power (Grass)
-Flamethrower
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Specs/Choice Scarf

Charizard X:
-Dragon Dance/Swords Dance
-Flare Blitz
-Dragon Claw/Outrage
-Earthquake/Roost
Nature: Jolly/Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Charizardite X

Sassy is a terrible nature for Blaziken to have. It ruins the point of Speed Boost (by lowering Blaziken's Speed), which makes it harder to revenge kill the longer it stays on the field:
-Swords Dance
-Flare Blitz
-High Jump Kick
-Protect/Baton Pass
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Leftovers/Life Orb/Blazikenite
Ability: Speed Boost

I see, thank you for your advice! Having to rebreed is going to be a hassle lol, especially for my Absol. My current Absol is a shiny one, lol, and I was thinking it was perfect. Guess not XD.

iiKontaii November 5th, 2013 4:45 AM

BUMP : Sorry for the double post

Does anyone know some replacement pokemon to get a better team composition for my X and Y team?

I decided to switch out almost all of my pokemon. I decided to keep Sylveon and Absol, currently EV and training them to proper levels and etc. I also added in Tyranitar into my line-up. But I don't know some more pokemon that would go well with my team. I don't really have a set type or style, but anyone know some good pokemon I can add into my team?

PlatinumDude November 5th, 2013 7:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iiKontaii (Post 7920954)
BUMP : Sorry for the double post

Does anyone know some replacement pokemon to get a better team composition for my X and Y team?

I decided to switch out almost all of my pokemon. I decided to keep Sylveon and Absol, currently EV and training them to proper levels and etc. I also added in Tyranitar into my line-up. But I don't know some more pokemon that would go well with my team. I don't really have a set type or style, but anyone know some good pokemon I can add into my team?

Tyranitar isn't worth bothering on the team. All your Pokemon besides Tyranitar don't benefit from sandstorm at all. Only use Tyranitar when you know that most of your team members can benefit from Sand Stream.

Pokemon that work well with Wish Sylveon are offensive Pokemon that can run through its counters, but lack recovery, like Lucario, Gyarados or Salamence:

Lucario:
-Swords Dance
-Close Combat
-Bullet Punch/Extreme Speed
-Crunch/Shadow Claw
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb

Gyarados:
-Dragon Dance
-Waterfall
-Earthquake/Stone Edge
-Substitute/Taunt
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 88 HP/248 Atk/4 Def/168 Spe
Item: Leftovers

or
-Dragon Dance
-Waterfall
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
Nature: Jolly/Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Lum Berry/Life Orb

Salamence:
-Dragon Dance
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-Fire Blast/Hydro Pump
Nature: Naive
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Lum Berry

Since both Gyarados and Salamence are weak to Stealth Rock, you need a Rapid Spinner to clear away Stealth Rock on your side of the field. Starmie or Excadrill work:
Starmie:
-Hydro Pump/Surf
-Psyshock/Thunderbolt
-Ice Beam
-Rapid Spin
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Leftovers/Life Orb
Ability: Natural Cure

or
-Scald
-Rapid Spin
-Psyshock/Ice Beam/Thunderbolt
-Recover
Nature: Timid
EVs: 248 HP/32 Def/4 SAtk/224 Spe
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure

Excadrill:
-Earthquake
-Rock Slide
-Rapid Spin
-Swords Dance/Shadow Claw
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Leftovers/Air Balloon
Ability: Mold Breaker

Also note that Absol needs Absolite to be effective now.


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