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Pokémon Orange
Pokémon Orange Introduction: Let's start this off with a little bit of background on the project then shall we? Pokémon Orange is a file that has been solemnly sulking about on my laptop since around 2008. My ambition with this project is outlined in this post. That post basically outlines what I want to do with Pokémon Orange. Essentially I want to follow GameFreak canon game making and create a the game that should have been created prior to the Orange Islands anime series. The Orange Islands anime is the only series that isn't based upon a game. I commend serg!o for his work with Pokémon Naranja but that is nowhere near the game which I wish to create, Naranja (and some other Orange Islands attempts) are based upon the anime which is nearly the exact opposite to which I wish to do, I want to create the game upon which the anime could be based upon just like every other Pokémon game. This hardest task for me is to choose what to include and what not to include where it comes to the anime's involvement in the game, I know for certain events like Ash's Lapras are coming nowhere near the game. This will be the game that GameFreak should have created prior to the Orange Islands anime! Okay... I think that's enough of a background and an outline of what this project can and will be and it's time to get on with the rest of the thread. As this game will essentially be completely following canon there is no real storyline compared to other hacks. This game will follow the natural progression style of the earlier Pokémon games which is essentially; receive Pokémon, go on journey, encounter evil team multiple times, defeat 4 gyms and catch yourself a legendary or two on the way! Obviously while there will be some storyline within the game there isn't going to be anything extraordinary or unrealistic for an earlier canon game.
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Finally. I've been waiting for something like this for a while, and after Sienna, I find you to be very qualified for the job. I've abstained from watching the anime much, so I'm completely ignorant as to the story behind the orange islands. However, I'm excited to play this.
Since only 251 are available, you're going off of 2nd gen--assuming--will there be a day/night system? And I don't just mean palette changes at times, I mean like some events/pokemon only at night/day, etc.? Also, why is it only four gyms? Or is that just how it was in the anime? I feel like four gyms isn't enough to cover a full game, but I trust your judgement. I'm happy to see something like this come about, and I wish you the best of luck, Manipulation. If you need anything in terms of mapping, just give me a holler, but I'm sure you've got that covered. |
I, when i still sucked at everything hack related, attempted this. Many have, all failed. I wish you good luck. The Orange Islands has always been my favorite anime season, second favorite region (Orre trups all). Good Luck, I can't wait to play this.
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Interesting, the lack of 'skill' gyms is particularly interesting - it was a defining feature of the Orange Islands anime. I understand that, gaming wise, the normal pokémon style gameplay is more desirable but will you be implementing any skills challenges alongside the gym battles? Perhaps to win the right to battle (similar to completing tasks before gym leaders will battle you ala Claire, etc.).
How is progress going so far? With regards to mapping/scripting/additional features. |
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Progress is still slow, I've mainly posted the thread to help motivate myself into posting updates on the game and to show people the hack of course. Mapping isn't going to be too difficult to do but the scripting is going to take a while as I'm going to jampack the game, especially the beginning, with events to get your levels up to scratch etc. |
While I absolutely despise the Pokémon anime, this hack interests me because of how it's more like a Game Freak-interpretation of the Orange Islands, and you're not trying to go overboard with post-Gen-III features, so this will be like a simple Gen III-style-game (but with only Gen I and II Pokémon), so I'm looking forward to it.
As long as Ash is nowhere near this hack, I'll try it out :) |
Looking pretty cool. I love island based regions, so I've always wanted to play a hack of the Orange Islands, but none of the current ones really caught my attention. Looking forward to playing this one.
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Yes please. |
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Here's a screenshot to whet some fancies. Just a not though, I've only scripted the first two towns/cities/islands/stuff but there's a good 10-12 events in there that can be done by the player and it's taken ages! Which is a good thing to me! So it might seem like a lot of the screenshots are from the same areas but it's because there's a lot of events there and there's still more that I'm not actually showing. http://i.imgur.com/tf0QUFT.png |
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Can I ask why you did the capitalization the way you did? I mean, I get that it's in the original 3rd Gen Pokemon game and is still seen(just not as extensively) in the latest games. In some games it looks good, and some games, decap looks better. So, I was just wondering why you decided to go with the capitalization. It looks like it'll work, but I'm just curious. |
Oooh, this sounds interesting! I like the angle you're taking with the whole thing.
The only thing that bothers me vaguely is the free-roam thing. I don't know if I just grew up in the wrong time or something, but I've never been a fan of exploration games, most notably most 3D Zelda games. I love checking every nook and cranny of places a lot, but I always hate it when I swear I've talked to everyone and checked everything and I can't progress and it turns out I've missed this one little thing. That's more my complaint with free-roam games in general, though. I know you've stated you're limiting the anime influence to the bare minimum for events and the like, but what about the number of islands? In the anime it makes it feel like an actual archipelago, but it might be a little overwhelming in game. Anyways, this hack sounds super awesome! I'll definitely be keeping tabs on this. |
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I don't have anything else to show as I'm making this post from work but I'll try and see if I can make some progress to show everyone tonight :). |
Yeah, because you can't change wild pokemon levels to match the player's levels having complete free roam wouldn't work in a pokemon game. In my case, I'm making making the map mostly linear, with a bunch of unnecessary side paths. Still makes levels difficult, because there's a lot of extra experience lying around, but it's manageable. You could also give the map a bunch of branching paths, and gradually increase the levels on the higher level paths to show the player that going that direction will be too difficult, without putting them up against a pokemon twice their level.
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I have always wanted an official orange island game since it was my favorite season of the anime. After I played AshGray I wanted an orange island hack that was like this. I even attempted to make my own. I even got pretty far mapping wise but I really really suck at scripting. Now that I see that you are making one, I have given up on my lame attempt at hacking and am just going to trust in your amazing skills as a hacker. After playing Pokemon Sienna I have full faith in your abilities. Knowing your skills and the Orange Islands fan base I am certain this will become one of the best hacks on PC.
I do have some questions though. What starters will we start with? Kanto, Johto, or different Pokemon? Will there be some challenges like contests or something unique like battle tournaments on some of the islands to make up for the lack of gyms? In each official Pokemon game there is something that Gamefreak adds that isn't available in other games (Like the underground in D/P/PT, the pokegear in G/S/C plus two regions, the different Bike options in R/S/E and contests, and the following Pokemon / auto run feature in HG/SS ) These are just suggestions and I know no matter what you do this will be an amazing hack so I won't rant to much. Also will you add the baby and evolve forms of gen 1 and 2 Pokemon that were made in later gens (such as Munchlax and Electivire) Thanks again for making this hack for us Orange Islands fans. |
Finally another Orange Islands Hack I really can't wait to play this Hack! :chu:
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Sounds Awesome, I am going to play this when it comes out!
But concerning Surf: Why don't you just give the Player a Lapras, that knows surf, on the first or second Isle, so that the Player can choose from one of the Kanto or Johto Starters? I personally think that this solution would give the Player more freedom in how he approaches the game and Lapras is known to be the Surf Pokemon ;) |
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Also for the villains are you planing on adding a new team or a previous team like Team Rocket or Team Aqua? |
Overall this is a great idea for a game, and will be looking to see how a Game Freak-esque Orange Islands would be fun. But, I think that's why they threw the Sevii Islands into FireRed. But, the only thing that bothers me here is the avoiding the Gen 3 Pokémon on a Gen 3 base or at least have them post Elite Four or something.
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Honestly, I'm glad that Gen 3+ Pokémon were practically excluded from HGSS until you got the Sinnoh/Hoenn sounds. It made HGSS more of a remake in my mind. So, while I do love a lot of the Gen 3 Pokémon, such as Absol, Blaziken, and so on, I have to agree that adding them to Pokémon Orange would affect the experience in a negative way. |
Just to throw it out there: Is there anyone who would like to share the burden per sé with me and take up a co-ownership kind of role? While I like to do a lot of the mapping and scripting myself it would be nice (especially with my procrastination and lack of time due to work) to not have to do everything myself. I tend to struggle with ideas sometimes and struggle to actually keep up with stuff and having someone to help me with this would be great, plus I've always found it fun to do things with others :).
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I'm a fair scripter, if you'd like an extra pair of hands there =) |
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I would like to be your mapper. Well, I'm not working on anything.. But I've map FireRed long now. I could also help with the sprite insertion. |
THIS HACK IS PRETTY COOL!WHEN WILL YOU RELEASE BETA 1?
GOODLUCK ANYWAYS!:D |
Looking forward to a release, been waiting to play on these islands and hope you live up to the hype. Screenshots look good, keep up the good work.
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