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Draven1234 October 27th, 2013 3:55 PM

Pokemon X/Y OU Team
 
Hey guys, just want to get some advice on my team and what I can do to make it better. Any advice/suggestions are appreciated. Thanks

Goodra @Assualt Vest
Gooey
252 HP, 252 SpAtk, 6 SpDef
Modest
- Dragon Pulse/Draco Meteor (I don't like the effects of Draco Meteor)
- Sludge Wave
- Thunderbolt
- Fire Blast
Comments: THis guy is my Special Tank. He takes lots of hits and hopefully will be able to with stand fairy attacks. Dragon Pulse/Draco Meteor for STAB, Sludge Wave for the, nasty fairies, thunderbolt for coverage and Fire Blast to surprise Steel Types if they switch in after the fairy

Alakazam @ Life Orb
Magic Guard
252 SpAtk, 252 Sd, 6 HP
Modest
- Psychic
- Focus Blast
- Shadow Ball
- Recover/?
Comments: Basically my revenge killer/special sweeper. Good coverage to hit Pokemon like Tyranitar hard as well as other Psychics. I'm deciding whether recover is useful or not because of its frailness.

Tyranitar @ Focus Sash/Tyranitarite
Sand Stream
252 HP, 252 Atk, 6 Sd
Adamant
- Stealth Rock
- Crunch
- Stone Edge/?
- Brick Break
Comments: He is my Stealth Rock lead. Crunch and Stone Edge (maybe something else with better accuracy?) for STAB. Brick Break to destroy Steel Types (even though commonly used ones don't have 2x Weakness). I'm debating whether or not to use The mega stone or the focus stash. I'd prefer to use the Tyranitarite seems I don't have another Mega POke (other than Alakazam who has better stats with LO)

Metagross @ Choice Band/?
Clear Body
252 HP, 252 Atk, 6 Sd
Adamant
- Zen Headbutt
- Earthquake
- Meteor Mash
- Bullet Punch/Hammer Arm
Comments: He is my physical sweeper. Good moves for STAB. Debating whether to use bullet punch for priority or hammer arm for coverage. I'd rather not use a Choice Band because of his good coverage but I don't know what else to use.

Dragonite @ Leftovers
Multiscale
252 HP, 252 Atk, 6 Def
Adamant
- Outrage/?
- ExtremeSpeed
- Waterfall
- Roost
Comments: He is basically a Complete Tank, capable of taking hits and Roosting them off. Outrage for STAB (but I don't know if its worth using because of Fairies, maybe something else?), Waterfall for Coverage as I lack water moves, ExtremeSpeed for priority/revenge killing.

Tentecruel @ Black Sludge
Ability Doesn't matter
252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Sd
Calm
- Rapid Spin
- Toxic Spikes
- Scald/ Toxic
- Sludge Wave/ Protect
Comments: This guy is basically support and my rapid spinner. I am debating whether or not to use Toxic or Scald and Sludge Wave or Protect. I'm thinking of Scald and Protect to annoy plus Toxic Spikes will poison already.

Overall I believe my team has good coverage as well as plenty of resistances. However, it's most notable Weaknesses are Ground and Fairy types. This is one of my first competitive teams (but I consider myself fairly knowledgable about pokemon) and I'm just looking for advice to make it better. All recommendations are appreciated. Thanks!

Ok, I just realized that Dragonite cannot get ExtremeSpeed yet. So, any other recommendation for that slot? Maybe Dragon Dance or something else?

pokecole October 27th, 2013 7:02 PM

On D-nite I would definitely get rid of outrage for dragon claw, because outrage is just begging for a fairy type to come in and destroy you. Also On D-nite I would personally run EQ rather than waterfall, but that's your own choice. Also replace e-speed with dragon dance probably. Alakazam is a bad user of recover, and you prolly won't need it because of how frail it is, so encore would probably work better. On tentacruel I would go for scald over toxic because your toxic spikes will get the job done well enough on their own. I'd also go for sludge wave rather than protect because you don't have much to protect abuse, and it can cost you valuable time.

PlatinumDude October 27th, 2013 9:02 PM

Recover is useless on Alakazam due to its frailty. Substitute or Hidden Power (Fire/Ice) are better options.

I'd say the Tyranitarite may be a better option for Tyranitar to use because it gains more power and bulk.

You're better off using the standard Dragon Dance Dragonite for now. Aqua Tail only sees use on rain teams, IMO, since Ferrothorn currently walls Dragonite:
-Dragon Dance
-Dragon Claw
-Fire Punch
-Earthquake/Roost
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Lum Berry/Leftovers
Ability: Multiscale

What's the point of Tentacruel having a Calm nature when it's not investing in Special Defense at all? Use a Timid nature with 248 HP/244 Def/16 Spe, which lets you outspeed Jolly Breloom/Skarmory, Modest Heatran and Adamant Gyarados/Dragonite.

Draven1234 October 28th, 2013 1:56 AM

Ok guys, Thanks for the comments! I will definitely use that Dragonite Set and Remove Recover for Substitute or Encore. Also, I'll more than likely use Scald and Sludge Wave on my Tentecruel. Unfortunately, I already have my Tentecool EV trained and I'm a bit lazy so I might just leave him and not bother getting a new one to EV train and a Timid Nature. Also, would Dragon Rush work better than Dragon Claw? Is the lower accuracy worth the extra power? I'm thinking not....

PlatinumDude October 28th, 2013 6:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Draven1234 (Post 7906193)
Ok guys, Thanks for the comments! I will definitely use that Dragonite Set and Remove Recover for Substitute or Encore. Also, I'll more than likely use Scald and Sludge Wave on my Tentecruel. Unfortunately, I already have my Tentecool EV trained and I'm a bit lazy so I might just leave him and not bother getting a new one to EV train and a Timid Nature. Also, would Dragon Rush work better than Dragon Claw? Is the lower accuracy worth the extra power? I'm thinking not....

Dragon Rush isn't worth it because of its bad accuracy.

Draven1234 October 28th, 2013 11:09 AM

Ok, I've done further research and I'm wondering whether I should use Flamethrower instead of Fire Blast for my Goodra as he is a Special Tank oppose to a Sweeper and as a plus, it is more accurate. What do you guys think? Is Fire Blast worth the extra damage because I've EV trained it in SpAtk?

PlatinumDude October 28th, 2013 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draven1234 (Post 7906773)
Ok, I've done further research and I'm wondering whether I should use Flamethrower instead of Fire Blast for my Goodra as he is a Special Tank oppose to a Sweeper and as a plus, it is more accurate. What do you guys think? Is Fire Blast worth the extra damage because I've EV trained it in SpAtk?

Just use Fire Blast. It's more accurate compared to Thunder and Blizzard.

Draven1234 October 28th, 2013 2:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PlatinumDude (Post 7906785)
Just use Fire Blast. It's more accurate compared to Thunder and Blizzard.

Yeah I realize that. But should I use Flamethrower instead of Fire Blast because his role is a Special Tank?

pokecole October 28th, 2013 2:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PlatinumDude (Post 7906785)
Just use Fire Blast. It's more accurate compared to Thunder and Blizzard.

Fire blast did get nerfed to base 110 power, so that's a good reason to not use it over flamethrower. (not that it didn't get nerfed to 90 I believe) But I never really cared for fire blast unless that was the poke's only fire type move because of it's imperfect accuracy. I miss 9 times out of 10. (But again, that's jusst me.)

Draven1234 October 28th, 2013 2:29 PM

Yeah that makes sense. I'll probably play around with it a bit to test it and choose which one I like better. Also, correct me if I'm wrong but, does an Item Clause exist where all items must be different/unique? My understanding was that their was, but upon further research, there's no such thing in Smogon Tiers (I believe). Having that said, should I use a Leftovers for my Tentecruel and a Life Orb for my Metagross? Also, I'm still wondering should my Goodra use Dragon Pulse or Draco Meteor, Id prefer to use Dragon Pulse because there no negative effect but perhaps I should reconsider?


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