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MiniMinun October 29th, 2013 12:57 PM

Unsolved Mysteries? Pokemon Z Evidence?
 
So, all over the community and other sites I'm seeing a bunch of little mysteries and 'theories' about X/Y. One of these, which most of you probably know of, is the startling appearance of Mrs. Hex-Ghost in Lumiose (It scared me so much I slammed my DS shut). Another would be the two women in Jaune Plaza that talk about the Lava Dome Pokemon, probably Heatran. Could there possible be an undiscovered Heatran in-game or maybe some upcoming event related to it? And does the Strange Souvenir have some purpose?

So YEAH... After looking at all this, I got to some sort of conclusion: That these were implemented to troll us or to prep for Pokemon Z. Think back to Black/White, where we saw that random ghost-girl on the bridge and knew nothing about her. Then, in the game's sequel, we get a whole backstory on her. If X/Y does get a sequel, maybe we will get more on Mrs. Hex-Ghost and maybe there will be a catchable Heatran, ect.

Anyways, just got that random thought and wanted to share it. What do you guys think about these 'unsolved mysteries'? Do you think that it's possible evidence for Pokemon Z? TELL ME! :)

metalhand October 29th, 2013 1:04 PM

Someone in this forum suggest mystery, and I agree with him.
There are so much thing which not understood to us-why lysandre hate so much peoples, what happaned to our father, the mystery of luimose city, and kalos unexplaind war(exept the war that was 3000 years ago there was another war in kalos 800 years against other regions).
The best to explain all of this is to relive at least most of those events.

ProfDunsparce October 29th, 2013 1:11 PM

Personally, I think the random inclusion of Zygarde without evidence of why it's there is reason enough to believe there will be a Z version. Kinda like how Kyurem's role in Black/White was fairly insignificant and then got magnified in Black/White 2. I think Zygarde and Terminus Cave will play a bigger role in Z. Perhaps a stronger form of Zygarde will also be released

Joebee October 29th, 2013 1:33 PM

I just got the strange souvenir. Would they really program an item in game that serves no purpose? I mean the description isn't much of a hint really of anything up coming. Also if they just wanted to hint at the release of an up coming game wasn't the hiker enough with all his rambling about his far away home?

I guess its just wishful thinking but i am hoping that there is more to be discovered or added to the current installment about these mysteries. I mean technically you can run into the ghost girl twice, why use her that much without a purpose or event in this game? oh well guess i'll just wait for the answers in the squeal with everyone else.

Iskandar October 29th, 2013 1:45 PM

Lol i can imagine X2 and Y2.

Mega Missingno October 29th, 2013 1:59 PM

I have a theory. Sorta.
That "Hex maniac" ghost girl. There was someone in one town who mentioned something about how cool it'd be if there was a machine that could change people into Pokemon. What if that Hex ghost girl was the human form/ spirit of that pokemon that crusty old, tall guy had, before she became a Flabe'be, and just as he's wandering the region looking for his fairy friend, the human spirit/ ghost that Flabebe used to be before getting turned into a pokemo, is going around looking for him, as well? Maybe to curse him or something, since she's a Hex maniac type character?

Guy October 29th, 2013 3:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mega Missingno (Post 7908806)
I have a theory. Sorta.
That "Hex maniac" ghost girl. There was someone in one town who mentioned something about how cool it'd be if there was a machine that could change people into Pokemon. What if that Hex ghost girl was the human form/ spirit of that pokemon that crusty old, tall guy had, before she became a Flabe'be, and just as he's wandering the region looking for his fairy friend, the human spirit/ ghost that Flabebe used to be before getting turned into a pokemo, is going around looking for him, as well? Maybe to curse him or something, since she's a Hex maniac type character?

It's certainly a crafty idea, but the ending of X and Y wouldn't really fit with that theory.

There's a lot of question marks left hanging at the end of the games, that I'd certainly like answers to. I wonder if they did that on purpose to follow up with sequels a la Black 2 and White 2.

MiniMinun October 29th, 2013 4:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfDunsparce
Personally, I think the random inclusion of Zygarde without evidence of why it's there is reason enough to believe there will be a Z version. Kinda like how Kyurem's role in Black/White was fairly insignificant and then got magnified in Black/White 2. I think Zygarde and Terminus Cave will play a bigger role in Z. Perhaps a stronger form of Zygarde will also be released

(First of all I just want to point out how amazing your name is!) Yeah, I forgot to mention that part. It's probably the biggest reason I think there will be a Pokemon Z. The same pattern has repeated itself since Gen IV:
D/P: Giratina can be caught in Turnback Cave, an unimportant side-location. At this point Giratina had no story or meaning (From what I remember!)
Platinum: Giratina now becomes one of the main focuses of the game, and is the version mascot.
B/W: Kyurem, again, is pretty much just another "side-quest" found in the Giant Chasm, a dungeon that has no pertinent impact on the game.
B2/W2: Kyurem is now the version mascot and the main focus of the game. The game's routes alter so you need to go through the giant chasm.

Soooo pretty much there is always a side-legendary who then becomes the mascot next game. I see this in Zygarde's future :)

Aeroblast October 29th, 2013 4:23 PM

That Hex Maniac ghost could be related to one of the event Pokemon Hoopa. If Hoopa really is Psychic/Ghost, it'd fit the profile of a Hex Maniac perfectly but that's just my guess.

As for Zygarde, I'm guessing it'll be the main legendary for the next game and there isn't really much reason to think otherwise.

9000chainz October 29th, 2013 4:24 PM

the Strange Souvenir could have just been like that item from gen 4 that they didn't say anything about. A later use could be just for a new TM or something. Either that, or a collection of enough, combined with an event ticket could lead you to some sort of Battle Frontier-esque place.

I just can't wait for them to reveal what's hidden in the coding and such.

Iskandar October 29th, 2013 5:02 PM

Theres a new event pokemon @[email protected]? everyones talking about it but i checked serebii and found nothing @[email protected]

Aaron40 October 29th, 2013 5:16 PM

What's with this Pokemon Z talk, we don't even know if the next game is going to be called Pokemon Z.
Just enjoy the X and Y games that are out now

Garm October 29th, 2013 5:25 PM

bit of a stretch, but Ill post my thought about the strange souvenir (just came into my mind) soo If I remember correctly, their was talk about how future games may be somewhat backwards compatible? (could be wrong, something to do with the pokebank I think) anyways, what if this item is something like a trade to evolve item/form changer for a future game? just my quick thoughts.

could even be a future mege-stone of sorts >.>

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire October 29th, 2013 6:33 PM

I think Zygarde is based on a Root...which will fit with the root eating serpent of Norse myth xD. I think it'll gain a forme where it's large and has longer arms in the theorical Z.

I think the Hex girl will appear in a possible third version or sequel.

magolor October 29th, 2013 6:40 PM

X Y and Z are the coordinates for anything three-dimensional, correct? I think that's why these games got their names in the first place-- since it's the first 3D Pokemon game. I'm definitely expecting a Z... maybe a sequel, or maybe it'd be an Emerald or Platinum-like addition. Either way, I'm hoping we'll hear something of it soon!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire October 29th, 2013 6:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Enderjay (Post 7909256)
X Y and Z are the coordinates for anything three-dimensional, correct? I think that's why these games got their names in the first place-- since it's the first 3D Pokemon game. I'm definitely expecting a Z... maybe a sequel, or maybe it'd be an Emerald or Platinum-like addition. Either way, I'm hoping we'll hear something of it soon!

I expect we'll hear about them in early 2015 for release that year as most third versions (and B2W2) come out the same year as the second movie of a generation (which features the mascot of that third version (or sequels for Kyurem's formes).)

27thColt October 30th, 2013 5:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ProfDunsparce (Post 7908734)
Perhaps a stronger form of Zygarde will also be released

Don't you think Gens 3 - 5 gave us enough forms already? XD I'm tired of forms, just stick with the Zygarde we have today. It may look stupid, but at leas it doesn't have a form.

Jimmyray October 30th, 2013 7:30 AM

Z is pretty much inevitable. Zygarde the 3rd legendary who's name just so happens to begin with Z, the letter that just so happens to follow X & Y, and is a third chromosome. Zygarde's pokedex entries also imply that it will intervene in some sort of catastrophe of the future, as it 'monitors the eco-system'. We also have evidence of past third (and fourth) game releases with Emerald, Platinum and Black & White 2 using Rayquaza, Giratina & Kyurem as their leads, and X & Y contain perhaps the most blatant implications that there is more to come out of any of the generations of games. There is a small chance that we will see X & Y 2 as opposed to Z if they think they will make more money that way, but they have set themselves up pretty perfectly for a Z title, and I for one welcome it, as it encourages improvement and new features on some already fantastic games, and also looks to answer a lot of questions posed by certain aspects in X & Y. Not to mention, Emerald & Platinum were 2 of the best games in the entire series.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire October 30th, 2013 9:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmyray (Post 7910041)
Z is pretty much inevitable. Zygarde the 3rd legendary who's name just so happens to begin with Z, the letter that just so happens to follow X & Y, and is a third chromosome. Zygarde's pokedex entries also imply that it will intervene in some sort of catastrophe of the future, as it 'monitors the eco-system'. We also have evidence of past third (and fourth) game releases with Emerald, Platinum and Black & White 2 using Rayquaza, Giratina & Kyurem as their leads, and X & Y contain perhaps the most blatant implications that there is more to come out of any of the generations of games. There is a small chance that we will see X & Y 2 as opposed to Z if they think they will make more money that way, but they have set themselves up pretty perfectly for a Z title, and I for one welcome it, as it encourages improvement and new features on some already fantastic games, and also looks to answer a lot of questions posed by certain aspects in X & Y. Not to mention, Emerald & Platinum were 2 of the best games in the entire series.

I agree, it feels that they must do Z since Zygarde is shaped like a Z and has one in it's name...
If they do sequels they could name them Z and W.

Pinta77 October 30th, 2013 2:57 PM

I'm 1000% sure there's gonna be a pokemon z version. It's a chance for them to make even more money with minimal effort :P

Marionz October 30th, 2013 4:11 PM

i want to play pokemon prequels! seriously, prequel of pokemon xy would be good :)

Sceptile14 October 30th, 2013 4:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Marionz (Post 7910732)
i want to play pokemon prequels! seriously, prequel of pokemon xy would be good :)

This is something that I can agree on as well. Also, what's weird about Zygarde, is that people already know it is there, and even hypothesize what it is doing, as said in its pokedex entry, so I find this a little strange that it was basically already discovered.
Also, reading its pokemon x dex entry, it states that when the Kalos regions ecosystem falls into dissary, it appears and reveals its secret power. Different form confirmed?

SmashBrony October 30th, 2013 4:56 PM

People have been talking about a different form for Zygarde, but what
if it got a Mega evolution? There's no offical rule saying that they won't
release any gen 6 Megas at all during the 6th gen...
None I saw, that is...

Aaron40 October 30th, 2013 5:11 PM

I think this thread is completely off topic, it's a Pokemon X and Y section not a future gaming section.
Can a mod just locked this since they are not really talking about X and Y at all

Guy October 30th, 2013 6:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron40 (Post 7910855)
I think this thread is completely off topic, it's a Pokemon X and Y section not a future gaming section.
Can a mod just locked this since they are not really talking about X and Y at all

In my opinion, it is a perfectly fine discussion to have here and we welcome it. It's not something new to discuss the possible third game or sequel(s) of the newest main series, especially when said games leaves the doors open for such possibility... and we all know it's inevitable, if not a third game then maybe sequels.

Regardless, this still very much as to do with X and Y and what we can take from it and its mysteries that are left unanswered. No one is forcing you to take part in this one discussion if you don't want to, but it's here to stay as long as it lasts.

However, these kind of remarks are off topic, so I please ask that if you ever have any questions or concerns about the forum and would like it to come to our attentions, then just send either myself or Suicune a private message and we'll see what we can do.


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