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GeckoPutt November 4th, 2013 4:06 PM

Two Many Sweepers
 
Hi Guys. I've reattempted to create another competitive team however, I am well aware that I've got 4 Sweepers (of various kinds), and two walls/tanks. I was wondering whether I could have your help in making this team work. Be as critical as you want. :)


Sylveon @ Leftovers | EV - HP:252 / Defense: 252 / Sp. Attack: 4
Nature: Bold
Ability: Cute Charm
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about

Substitute (Normal)
Calm Mind (Psychic)
Shadow Ball (Ghost)
Moonblast (Fairy)

Garchomp @ Garchompite | EV - Attack: 252 / Speed: 252 / HP: 4
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Rough Skin (Mega: Sand Force)
Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas

Dragon Claw (Dragon)
Earthquake (Ground)
Fire Fang (Fire)
Brick Break (Fighting)

Aegislash @ Leftovers | EV - Attack: 252 / HP: 252 / Speed: 4
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Stance Change
Characteristic: Good perserverance

King's Shield (Steel)
Swords Dance (Normal)
Shadow Sneak (Ghost)
Sacred Sword (Fighting)

Blissey @ Leftovers | EV - Defense: 252 / Sp. Defense: 252 / HP: 4
Nature: Calm
Ability: Natural Cure
Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas

Soft-Boiled (Normal)
Shadow Ball (Ghost)
Seismic Toss (Fighting)
Flamethrower (Fire) [I'm currently in the middle of breeding another for Aromatherapy]

Gengar @ Black Sludge | EV - Attack: 252 / Speed: 252 / HP: 4
Nature: Timid
Ability: Levitate
Characteristic: Hates to lose

Substitute (Normal)
Focus Blast (Fighting)
Shadow Ball (Ghost)
Disable (Normal)

Talonflame @ Life Orb | EV - Attack: 252 / Speed: 176 / HP: 80
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Gale Wings
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about

Brave Bird (Flying)
Flare Blitz (Fire)
Roost (Flying)
Swords Dance (Normal)[/QUOTE]

PlatinumDude November 4th, 2013 7:13 PM

No need to say characteristics here. And there's no point in saying the types of the moves when we already know what they are.

There's no point in running Mega Garchomp if Tyranitar or Hippowdon aren't around to provide it with sandstorm support. MegaChomp's lowered Speed in comparison to its regular form makes it not worth using outside of sand teams. Stick to regular Garchomp, please:
-Swords Dance
-Outrage/Dragon Claw
-Earthquake
-Fire Fang/Stone Edge
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Lum Berry/Yache Berry/Haban Berry

or
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge/Fire Fang/Fire Blast
-Dragon Claw/Dual Chop
Nature: Jolly/Naive
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Band/Choice Scarf

Use the new Blissey you intend to breed. Blissey is too offensively weak to utilize Softboiled + 3 attacks:
-Aromatherapy
-Softboiled
-Seismic Toss/Flamethrower
-Thunder Wave/Toxic
Nature: Calm
EVs: 4 HP/252 Def/252 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure

I'm not sure if regular SubDisable Gengar can work here, but here are other suggestions:
-Shadow Ball
-Sludge Bomb
-Substitute/Protect
-Focus Blast/Hidden Power (Fire)
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Black Sludge/Life Orb

or
-Shadow Ball
-Sludge Bomb
-Focus Blast
-Thunderbolt/Hidden Power (Ice/Fire)
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf

Mega Gengar is a good trapper for the team as well, since I removed Garchomp from the Mega slot:
-Shadow Ball
-Sludge Bomb/Focus Blast
-Disable/Hypnosis
-Substitute/Taunt
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Gengarite

or
-Shadow Ball
-Sludge Bomb
-Focus Blast
-Thunderbolt/Hidden Power (Fire)
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Gengarite

Since Talonflame already has priority in Gale Wings, change the EV spread to 192 HP/252 Atk/4 Def/60 Spe. Note that Talonflame is 4x weak to Stealth Rock and Rapid Spin support is crucial to its success. Starmie or Avalugg can do this for you:
Avalugg
-Hydro Pump/Surf
-Psyshock/Thunderbolt
-Ice Beam
-Rapid Spin
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Leftovers/Life Orb
Ability: Natural Cure

or
-Scald
-Rapid Spin
-Psyshock/Ice Beam/Thunderbolt
-Recover
Nature: Timid
EVs: 248 HP/32 Def/4 SAtk/224 Spe
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure

Avalugg:
-Avalanche
-Earthquake/Stone Edge/Roar
-Rapid Spin
-Recover
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP/4 Atk/252 Def
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy/Ice Body


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