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The_Show November 4th, 2013 5:17 PM

What's the point of Zygarde?
 
Honestly, what's the point of Zygarde? I get that its supposed to "balance" Xerneas and Yveltal. I mean, even Rayquaza could be considered a "balance" for kyogre and Groudon, but at least its ability was useful when fighting against other pokemon... AND it had great stats and its an overall great pokemon.

Zygarde, on the other hand, seems to have nothing great about it. Its stats are worse than Xerneas and Yveltal, and its just an overall "average" pokemon that definitely doesn't fit in with the strength, coolness, or cuteness factor that other legendaries bring to the table.

So I ask this: what could be the point of Zygarde?

Maybe it could've been specially designed for Pokemon Z. Maybe there are future events to make it a worthwhile Pokemon. Discuss.

L0RD G3NGAR November 4th, 2013 5:21 PM

It may be due to it's typing. Ground Types don't tend to have the highest stats but Dragons do have good stats, usally. But i think it's because of it's typing. It could also be because GF couldn't decide what they wanted to do with it, I don't knoww. I asked myself a similar question when i seen his stats.

Ckbruin November 4th, 2013 5:30 PM

Zygarde does seem like a weird "trio member" with Xerneas and Yveltal, with weaker stats and all. Perhaps it will be expanded upon and given more relevance to the story when/if Pokemon Z comes out. Kinda like D/P/Pt, maybe? I mean, Giratina wasn't too involved in the plot for D/P, (in fact, I don't even think it was even necessary to catch it at all to beat the game) but in Platinum it becomes a "major" storyline Pokemon.

As it stands now, Zygarde is the weakest of the trio. Its design is certainly rather intriguing, and its classification (Order Pokemon) draws some questions, but it's not exactly a powerful Pokemon. Also, it stole Vibrava/Flygon's unique typing D:

4O4 November 4th, 2013 5:34 PM

I was wondering the same thing but it sucks in my opinion. Like everyone above me has already stated, its stats are terrible. I dont like the look or how it literally has no connection what so ever to the other 2 legendaries. I dont even consider it a Legendary because I know I wouldnt want it with me in battle most of the time.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire November 4th, 2013 5:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ckbruin (Post 7920252)
Zygarde does seem like a weird "trio member" with Xerneas and Yveltal, with weaker stats and all. Perhaps it will be expanded upon and given more relevance to the story when/if Pokemon Z comes out. Kinda like D/P/Pt, maybe? I mean, Giratina wasn't too involved in the plot for D/P, (in fact, I don't even think it was even necessary to catch it at all to beat the game) but in Platinum it becomes a "major" storyline Pokemon.

As it stands now, Zygarde is the weakest of the trio. Its design is certainly rather intriguing, and its classification (Order Pokemon) draws some questions, but it's not exactly a powerful Pokemon. Also, it stole Vibrava/Flygon's unique typing D:

None of the third legendaries have been involved in the story line of the paired versions.

I was hoping Zygarde would be another Giratina or even Rayquaza in terms of bst. It ended up being a weaker 'Kyurem' to the trio :(. I hope it get's a mega evolution. If they do sequels I imagine them giving it two Megas, a MegaZygarde X and MegaZygarde Y.

Aeroblast November 4th, 2013 5:39 PM

On Zygarde, I wish it was Dragon/Bug, which sounds like an awesome combination. I was hoping that Yanmega was retconned to Bug/Dragon but it wasn't to be.

PlatinumDude November 4th, 2013 5:39 PM

Zygarde essentially functions as this generation's Rayquaza/Giratina/Kyurem. While it only appears post-game, it has links to Xerneas and Yveltal, showing up when the balance between life and destruction is disrupted. It may play a more prominent role in the third version.

scprepschool November 4th, 2013 6:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ckbruin (Post 7920252)
Zygarde does seem like a weird "trio member" with Xerneas and Yveltal, with weaker stats and all. Perhaps it will be expanded upon and given more relevance to the story when/if Pokemon Z comes out. Kinda like D/P/Pt, maybe? I mean, Giratina wasn't too involved in the plot for D/P, (in fact, I don't even think it was even necessary to catch it at all to beat the game) but in Platinum it becomes a "major" storyline Pokemon.

As it stands now, Zygarde is the weakest of the trio. Its design is certainly rather intriguing, and its classification (Order Pokemon) draws some questions, but it's not exactly a powerful Pokemon. Also, it stole Vibrava/Flygon's unique typing D:

What about garchomp?
Most likely he will get a new form. Seems to be a reoccurring thing since gen 4.
I think he looks cool. I'm just wondering if he will get wings or legs haha

Hiatus November 4th, 2013 6:04 PM

According to one of its PokéDex entries, Zygarde is the protector of the ecosystem; when it falls into danger, Zygarde reveals its true power. This makes me believe that Zygarde's got some sort of an alternate form hidden somewhere. d: If they decide to make sequels to X and Y, maybe they could have Xerneas and Yveltal get into a feud with each other, which causes the ecosystem to be threatened, somehow. This could ultimately lead Zygrade to getting itself onto the scene, and since it's weaker than the two, perhaps it could change into its new form and have its stats upgraded. With its help, it would eventually be able to stop Yveltal and Xerneas from wreaking havoc. I'm not quite sure how the form would look, though… maybe it could have a larger head and a longer, bulkier body, kind of like Chinese dragons?

BraveNewWorld November 4th, 2013 6:05 PM

It will likely receive a mega evolution for the next installment of Gen 6.

TreeKangaroo November 4th, 2013 6:18 PM

Uh nobody ever said zygarde had crappy stats, and I think he's pretty cool(and I can listen to this legendary theme longer!). Zygarde is basically like kyurem except it won't be fused because it looks nothing like xerneas and yveltal. :P

MiniMinun November 4th, 2013 6:21 PM

It's the Gen VI counter-part to Girantina and Kyurem. Pointless in the first game and then the freaking mascot in the next. :)

Marionz November 4th, 2013 6:39 PM

zygarde is a troll legendary i tell yah! look at its appearance, its an abomination.. i couldn't distinguish it between a snake or a snail...

anyway i think there might be a connection to it if there will be an X2 or Y2 or even Z

Kerjo November 4th, 2013 7:02 PM

As stated before Zygarde is the Girantina/Kyurem of this generation, just with worse stats, but like the former two he'll probably another forme in the third game.

And a quick question: People are stating he has no connections to Xerneas and Yveltal...but what is the connection between the two? Y never mentions Xerneas and X never mentions Yveltal.

scprepschool November 4th, 2013 7:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kerjo (Post 7920415)
As stated before Zygarde is the Girantina/Kyurem of this generation, just with worse stats, but like the former two he'll probably another forme in the third game.

And a quick question: People are stating he has no connections to Xerneas and Yveltal...but what is the connection between the two? Y never mentions Xerneas and X never mentions Yveltal.

For anyone who's saying that there is no connection between zygarde and xerneas/yveltal I only ask one question: do you even pokemon bro?

Iceshadow3317 November 4th, 2013 8:00 PM

It probably will have a new form in Z or sequels. That is probably why he doesn't have great stats. And how can you say there is no connection? You could have said the same thing about Kyurem and look what happened.

Y = Death/Destruction
X = Life/ Possibly Immortality
Z = Balance of the two. It even negates the abilities of X and Y and even hurts them. Later on it will probably also be confirmed to be growth. It has slightly already been confirmed that it is a little.

X Dex Entry for Zygarde: When the Kalos region's ecosystem falls into disarray, it appears and reveals its secret power.


Also according to what I have read, Zygarde has the highest Defense of all dragon types.

Elaitenstile November 4th, 2013 8:10 PM

Yep, there are all hints pointing out to a new forme. Just think of Giratina itself, Palkia and Dialga could be considered better than Giratina in the Altered Forme. I feel Zygarde will present a new message in Pokémon Z about saving the ecosystem and the planet from this pollution factor. That's a nice way to start. Perhaps Team Flare will be ruining the planet with their evil plans...? I know not. He is also a balancer between Xerneas and Yveltal, so that means his ability simply stands to remove the Dark and Fairy auras, two potentially very dangerous abilities. It's a real grasp on the concept of Zygarde's 'true forme' that's been hinted by the Pokédex overall. If I remember correctly, it also had a signature move (Land's Wrath) but I'm not sure whether Zygarde alone can learn it.

scprepschool November 4th, 2013 8:13 PM

What would be crazy if it becomes ground/ fairy.
Beast
Two immunities
Resists and checks fairys weaknesses

She_Delphox November 5th, 2013 12:47 AM

Sure the design could have been different, it may not be (ofcourse) what you'd expect, but I don't think it is that bad though... Although a friend of mine said it was just another "lame-fly-design" xD I just caught it to have the data on it, but I may train him for a while, I don't know :)

We will have to wait and see in the future I guess, the Giratina concept with another form would be cool though (even Xerneas has a Neutral and Active form, so I think Yveltal and Zygarde should have some sort of form too) ^_^

skyluigi2 November 5th, 2013 12:53 AM

I'm just going to assume it's the Giratina of Gen VI, and that it'll have a larger role in the next games (whether that's Z or X2 and Y2... who knows).

«Chuckles» November 5th, 2013 1:00 AM

Whats the point of Giratina, whats the point of Kyurem. Well hopefully he has a larger role in the sequel or Z for zubat version.

Cerberus87 November 5th, 2013 1:43 AM

The point of Zygarde is to be an excuse to make another game that's basically the same as X and Y except for a few additions and changes to the story. And we, as the sheep we are, will end up buying it anyway.

It's rumored Zygarde will have a Mega Evolution to put him on par with Xerneas and Yveltal.

scprepschool November 5th, 2013 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cerberus87 (Post 7920822)
The point of Zygarde is to be an excuse to make another game that's basically the same as X and Y except for a few additions and changes to the story. And we, as the sheep we are, will end up buying it anyway.

It's rumored Zygarde will have a Mega Evolution to put him on par with Xerneas and Yveltal.

I don't consider myself a sheep... more like a devilishly handsome yet aggressive honey badger of some sort or maybe a tiger. Or a ape, only shaven though, if not a shaven ape, then no ape... but not a sheep

SnowpointQuincy November 5th, 2013 12:35 PM

Zygard is PURE Sequel Bait. Remember Kyurem got a Huge power bump in BW2. And also had Zero to do with the game untill BW2

JP November 5th, 2013 12:46 PM

Yeah, as everyone else is saying, I definitely think it'll receive something to boost its appeal and stats next game. Whether that's a mega evolution or just simple formes... Don't know. It'd be kind of a shame if they didn't introduce new mega's with the followup game.


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