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beca November 10th, 2013 2:39 AM

Hidden ability lost upon evolution
 
My Froakie had the hidden ability "protean" but upon evolving, seems to have lost it -- instead, it now lists "torrent". Is this supposed to happen? =/

Musica November 10th, 2013 2:41 AM

I'm pretty sure that it will not happen. You might have gotten a regular Froakie to evolve instead of the Protean one.

beca November 10th, 2013 2:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Musica (Post 7929708)
I'm pretty sure that it will not happen. You might have gotten a regular Froakie to evolve instead of the Protean one.

Hmm, it was most definitely a protean Froakie xD

JayTheKing November 10th, 2013 3:27 AM

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Originally Posted by beca (Post 7929712)
Hmm, it was most definitely a protean Froakie xD

That happens if the nature was hacked in the pokemon.You got it from a trade or from friend safari?

beca November 10th, 2013 4:25 AM

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Originally Posted by JayTheKing (Post 7929740)
That happens if the nature was hacked in the pokemon.You got it from a trade or from friend safari?

I bred it D: one of the parents was a Japanese Froakie with Protean that I got from a wondertrade though

JayTheKing November 10th, 2013 4:29 AM

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Originally Posted by beca (Post 7929794)
I bred it D: one of the parents was a Japanese Froakie with Protean that I got from a wondertrade though

Level up the japanese one to check if it loses protean when it evolves.Also did you breed with a ditto?

beca November 10th, 2013 4:36 AM

Nope, starter Froakie plus Japanese Froakie xD I'll level it up, thanks!

Sun November 10th, 2013 4:48 AM

Look closely buddy,
Male DW + Ditto = low chance of DW offspring
Female DW + Male = higher chance of DW offspring
Female DW + Ditto = Possible* starting in Gen VI, which was not true in Gen V. Percentage unknown.
Female + Male DW = NO DW offspring

According to obaldo2*

obaldo2 November 10th, 2013 5:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Makoto Tachibana (Post 7929818)
Look closely buddy,
Male DW + Ditto = low chance of DW offspring
Female DW + Male = higher chance of DW offspring
Female DW + Ditto = I do not have the answer, while back in Gen V it was impossible.
Female + Male DW = NO DW offspring

When I used a ditto from korea and my own magician fennekin, more than half my eggs came with magician.

Sun November 10th, 2013 5:17 AM

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Originally Posted by obaldo2 (Post 7929834)
When I used a ditto from korea and my own magician fennekin, more than half my eggs came with magician.

Yes but which 'formula'?
Quote:

Male DW + Ditto = low chance of DW offspring.
Does not mean you won't get dozens and thousands of DW offspring with this one. It's just a percentage, don't take it literally. {:3}

Quote:

Female DW + Ditto = I do not have the answer, while back in Gen V it was impossible.
If you meant this one then that means good news! :) As I said earlier, it was impossible.

obaldo2 November 10th, 2013 7:05 AM

Oh, I feel like an idiot for not specifying, but it was a female magician fennekin with a ditto

beca November 10th, 2013 1:08 PM

The female Japanese Froakie had Protean by the way, if that helps a little more ;P

WingedDragon November 10th, 2013 4:00 PM

Back in Gen V you HAD to have an Identical Male and DWF in order to pass on the Hidden ability

Sun November 10th, 2013 6:59 PM

Just keep breeding then, sometimes you'll hatch Protean sometimes Torrent. :)

Corrosive November 10th, 2013 7:02 PM

She's not having problems breeding a Poke with the hidden ability. She's saying her Poke lost its hidden ability upon evolving.

Aeroblast November 10th, 2013 7:16 PM

A pokemon shouldn't just "lose" the ability it's supposed to retain upon evolving. Although this is an exception for some Pokemon, Protean Froakie shouldn't just change its ability to Torrent when it evolves to Frogadier.

Maybe the one you raised had Torrent? It's not a 100% guarantee that the hidden ability is going to be passed down.

Xander Olivieri November 10th, 2013 7:41 PM

There are glitches so lets not jump the poor kid. Even while breeding them in your game, a glitch can happen.

You are the first I've heard of with this particular issue. I had some attacks lost upon evolution on my Gourgeist. Got it through Wonder Trade. It had four moves and learned Phantom Force. When the learning part went away I checked her cause I discovered she was a Super Sized one and she lost Explosion and Phantom Force. I sent a bug error ticket to TPC which is pretty much all you can do sadly.

Sadly what was lost is lost. All you can do is keep trying to get Protean Froakies to evolve. It may have been a one time glitch, but if it happens more than once, you really need to contact The Pokemon Company by making an account on Pokemon.com if you don't have one yet and letting them know about this bug.

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Originally Posted by AdrianD (Post 7930851)
Back in Gen V you HAD to have an Identical Male and DWF in order to pass on the Hidden ability

No any Male would do in Gen 5. The only requirement is that the Female had to have a Dream World Ability. You can't breed Egg Moves easily into Dream World Pokemon if that were true and I've never used same species Pokemon when I got Hidden Ability Babies in Gen 5.

JamesXY November 12th, 2013 1:49 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7931146)
There are glitches so lets not jump the poor kid. Even while breeding them in your game, a glitch can happen.

You are the first I've heard of with this particular issue. I had some attacks lost upon evolution on my Gourgeist. Got it through Wonder Trade. It had four moves and learned Phantom Force. When the learning part went away I checked her cause I discovered she was a Super Sized one and she lost Explosion and Phantom Force. I sent a bug error ticket to TPC which is pretty much all you can do sadly.

Sadly what was lost is lost. All you can do is keep trying to get Protean Froakies to evolve. It may have been a one time glitch, but if it happens more than once, you really need to contact The Pokemon Company by making an account on Pokemon.com if you don't have one yet and letting them know about this bug.



No any Male would do in Gen 5. The only requirement is that the Female had to have a Dream World Ability. You can't breed Egg Moves easily into Dream World Pokemon if that were true and I've never used same species Pokemon when I got Hidden Ability Babies in Gen 5.

Same thing happened with my Gourgeist that evolved at level 1 from Wonder Trade.

LoudSilence November 12th, 2013 3:31 PM

Definitely sounds like a glitch, sorry to say. Pokemon don't switch to their other ability upon evolving; abilities only change when the evolved Pokemon can never have the ability of the pre-evo.

ex. Honedge and Doublade have No Guard, Aegislash has Stance Change 100% of the time

data0gimp November 30th, 2013 5:44 AM

The same thing just happened to me. I was training my Adaptability Eevee to get a Pixilate Sylveon, and it's pretty tough getting there ._.
It evolved into a Sylveon with Cute Charm. I'm so sad right now.

Mithel_Celestia November 30th, 2013 5:56 AM

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Originally Posted by data0gimp (Post 7962407)
The same thing just happened to me. I was training my Adaptability Eevee to get a Pixilate Sylveon, and it's pretty tough getting there ._.
It evolved into a Sylveon with Cute Charm. I'm so sad right now.

Sadly, you are mistaken. Adaptability is Eevee's natural second ability(meaning found in the wild). An Eevee's DW ability is Aniticipation.

Nah November 30th, 2013 5:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by data0gimp (Post 7962407)
The same thing just happened to me. I was training my Adaptability Eevee to get a Pixilate Sylveon, and it's pretty tough getting there ._.
It evolved into a Sylveon with Cute Charm. I'm so sad right now.

Eevee has to have Anticipation for Sylveon to have Pixilate, not Adaptability.


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