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wolf December 31st, 2013 5:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ársa (Post 8011496)
Not sure why you're comparing base SpA between the two? Entei beats Victini on the physical side by 15 points.

Entei has to use HP Grass to hit Water-types, while Victini can use Psychic, Grass Knot, etc. coming from a higher SAtk. Anyway, my point was that if Victini, Darmanitan, Arcanine, and so on can't get into OU, I highly doubt Entei will be able to. Perhaps the Fairies will help boost their usage, but I'm not expecting much.

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Maybe I was premature in saying 'STRAIGHT TO OU!', however it certainly outperforms Arcanine IMO.
Maybe so, but Arcanine does have a larger offensive presence thanks to its coverage moves (Wild Charge and Close Combat), in addition to having Intimidate to switch in more easily. Buuut Entei has the potential to last longer and is ever so slightly faster, so there's that.

dreyko January 14th, 2014 6:03 PM

Toxic Spikes on Weezing and Cofagrigus is pretty nifty, in my opinion. I agree that it defintely gives them some increased utility.

To add a new-ish topic, how do y'all think Pokebank will change the meta, if any change at all?

Obv there will be essentially every Pokemon available to use competitively, but will current Pokemon that are seeing a lot of use right now be less favored once pokebank is hopefully released?

Will certain Pokemon post-bank see more play than they did in previous gens?

Mitapu January 16th, 2014 11:26 AM

Question. This I'm learning isn't like most groups, where they have visitors challenge them in battles or group wars (they are like tourneys where whoever's group have more victories are the champions.) do they hold such battle groups in this community?

champagnepapi January 16th, 2014 3:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitapu (Post 8042520)
Question. This I'm learning isn't like most groups, where they have visitors challenge them in battles or group wars (they are like tourneys where whoever's group have more victories are the champions.) do they hold such battle groups in this community?

You're talking about clans but no we don't have them here right now, maybe later ;D

Mitapu January 16th, 2014 4:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Antebellum (Post 8042881)
You're talking about clans but no we don't have them here right now, maybe later ;D

ok. When you guys decide on clans for the community, I have one in mind.

wolf January 17th, 2014 9:58 AM

You can go ahead and create a clan if you'd like. However, I plan on making an official clan/league-hybrid soon.

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Originally Posted by dreyko (Post 8039760)
To add a new-ish topic, how do y'all think Pokebank will change the meta, if any change at all?

Obv there will be essentially every Pokemon available to use competitively, but will current Pokemon that are seeing a lot of use right now be less favored once pokebank is hopefully released?

Will certain Pokemon post-bank see more play than they did in previous gens?

Quite a bit. For one, a lot of Pokemon who were previously unusable before PokeBank will now be introduced to the metagame (legendaries like Jirachi and Celebi). One major boon we get from PokeBank is more Defog users. Before PokeBank, the only viable users were Crobat and Mandibuzz. Now we have Pokemon like Scizor, [email protected], Gliscor, Skarmory, Dragonite, and Empoleon. Defog's distribution is still very limited, but it's a lot better than it used to be.

Opposite Day January 17th, 2014 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by awolffromspace (Post 8015251)
Maybe so, but Arcanine does have a larger offensive presence thanks to its coverage moves (Wild Charge and Close Combat), in addition to having Intimidate to switch in more easily. Buuut Entei has the potential to last longer and is ever so slightly faster, so there's that.

arcanine fanboy ;)

On a more serious note, the hype behind Sacred Fire will probably be enough to get it high up in usage, I'd wager - I know I would want to try it out, and I doubt that I'd be disappointed when practically all physical walls hate being burned save for maybe Rotom-W.

mmm burned tower time

halcyonic January 18th, 2014 2:17 AM

ah havent been active since er last month? idk but im not sure if anyone new joined, so could anyone help track down the newcomers?

also changed the op topic, happy discussing :)

dreyko January 19th, 2014 3:06 PM

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Originally Posted by awolffromspace (Post 8044105)
Quite a bit. For one, a lot of Pokemon who were previously unusable before PokeBank will now be introduced to the metagame (legendaries like Jirachi and Celebi). One major boon we get from PokeBank is more Defog users. Before PokeBank, the only viable users were Crobat and Mandibuzz. Now we have Pokemon like Scizor, [email protected], Gliscor, Skarmory, Dragonite, and Empoleon. Defog's distribution is still very limited, but it's a lot better than it used to be.

Scizor getting Defog will definitely be interesting! It would have some utility along with being a good physical attacker and a semi-wall.

Personally, I am a little weary of Celebi mainly because it can be very hard to take down, but that's change in the meta for ya.


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