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The Most Challenging Elite Four?
Which game's Elite Four gave you the most trouble? Also specifiy which game it was that you had problems in lol
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I think Johto is quite tough Kaga used really dirty tactics and Karen Dark Types really take a battering.
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For me so far it has to be the Kalos region. (Pokemon X)
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This is really tough for me, but I think that Koga singlehandedly makes Johto the hardest one. Whenever I come out of that battle, all of my non-steel Pokemon are poisoned, and I've usually gone through all of my antidotes through the course of the battle. And it's always bad poison, so your Pokemon are basically doomed if you don't cure them. Having all my Pokemon poisoned at the end of the second battle is a serious pain. I also seem to have a lot of trouble with Will for some reason. So I have to give it to Johto.
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Kanto Elite Four would have to be the hardest. They had Lance as a member, who was quite tough to go up against. To finally defeat him, I had to rely on a lot of healing items such as Revives, Max Potions, Full Restores, Burn Heals, Ice Heals, and so on. The Hoenn Elite Four were pretty hard as well. And the easiest Elite Four are probably the ones of Unova.
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Kanto and Sinnoh (Pre-Platinum) definitely have the hardest Elite Four. Not only because of their high levels, but also because some of their members use Pokemon not associated with their types, making type coverage against them pretty difficult.
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Hm, this certainly fits better in Pokémon Gaming Central as it specifically refers to the games :>
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Am I the only one who finds the Sinnoh Elite Four overrated as chiz and finds the Unova Elite Four (at least in BW) much harder than people make them out to be? Their Pokémon are really strong and while they only have four of them, they're bulky, except Grimsley. They're much easier in BW2 though, mostly due to how smaller the level gap is and the bigger dex giving you more options to counter them, at least on Normal Mode, but on Challenge Mode they get five Pokémon, all with odd held items (cough Choice Scarf Chandelure cough). Johto's Elite Four wasn't crazy tough per se, but they were annoying (i.e. Koga and Karen).
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I'll just list them all in order from hardest to easiest (for me).
Hoenn Kanto Sinnoh Unova Johto Kalos |
The hardest one I found was the shinoh and Hoenn elite four.
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The most annoying is Johto, but tbh I usually beat all of them first run through no problem.
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For me it was probably Johto. Karen proved to be a real challenge for me, and Lance was pretty difficult too.
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They uhm.. Were all.. Kinda a piece of cake.. Like.. An effortless runthrough through all of them.. Koga is easily beat if you know what types to use.. Only "hard one" was the sinnoh elite 4 with that psychic guy and his bronzong, very agitating pokemon with no weakness that is (ability surpresses fire)
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I'd say that it's a split between Kanto and Sinnoh for me. Those two were hard in terms of the Pokemon that they used as well as their insanely high levels. Even though Unova's Elite Four had far higher-levelled Pokemon, I obliterated them in one run. The same can be said for Kalos's Elite Four. The Elite Four never got challenging after Sinnoh, unfortunately. :/
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The Hoenn Elite Four, but only because Sapphire is my earliest Elite Four memory and as such my team was horribly maladjusted for the task!
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The Hoenn elite four. I know everyone's saying Kanto, but I fought them with a Starmie. That alone made them a pushover. Maybe they're significantly harder without a Starmie, but for me, they were easy to beat.
The Hoenn ones, though, bloody hell. Sure, Sidney and Phoebe are easier, but Glacia is tough. And then we have Drake. You think Lance is hard, with his two Dragonites? Well, Drake has an Altaria, two Flygons, and a Salamence, all with moves that can counter effectively anything. |
Personally i hav to say Hoenn because i have the wist memories of it haha :P Th champion's Ludicolo would keep using mega drain on my pokemon, which was really frustrating.. i haven't really versed an elite 4 in a long while so i can't really judge the others though
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Johto, definitely. I've never had to buy so many revives and reset to my last save before. The worst part was my pokemon were a few levels ahead of theirs!
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Ahh gosh, Kanto's Elite Four gave me such a hard time. Lorelei was probably one of the toughest and that wasn't a good sign to come into given that she was the first one you had to defeat, haha. Sinnoh's was a bit of a pain in the behind as well, more so Lucian and Cynthia, but they're still second place when it comes to difficulty. I will never forget the suffering Kanto's E4 put me through. :(
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Johto without a doubt. It took me multiple times to get through each member, especially the likes of Karen and Lance. I still have nightmares of Koga the first time around as well. It took a lot of Victory Road grinding to be able to beat him the same go 'round that I beat Will, haha.
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Sinnoh proved quite challenging for me. Aron and Birtha were pretty easy but Flint and Lucian kicked my butt repeatedly, more so Lucian and his Mr Mime and its thunderbolt! His Alakazam was a pain as well with its energy ball. That is without mention of Cynthia, who I found to be the toughest champion I had ever battles. Her Lucario, Milotic and Garchomp in particular I found difficult to take down.
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I was going to say Sinnoh's, but looking through these replies and thinking on it a bit, I'd have to go with Johto's. I always seem to be more lower-leveled than I'd expect by the time I reach them, and there really aren't any good places to grind up a bit in Johto. Also, Will and Karen usually give me a bit of trouble.
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That poop face Karen and her two Umbreons. Why, why did they give me so much trouble?!
The only challenging Elite Four for me was Johto. I've beaten the others by at least the third try. 5 and 6 had the easiest bullcrap for the elite four ever. |
Kanto and Sinnoh. Sinnoh Elite Four has great strategy in Platinum.
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Kanto has the hardest elite 4 imo.
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Are we counting the champions as part of the Elite 4? I've always pretty much considered them part of it, even if they weren't specifically an E4 member :p In any case, my pick would be Hoenn. I've just always struggled to get through that one. I mean, I don't think I've beaten it one single time yet in which I didn't have to resort to using the title legendary. And whether that's due to poor decisions when it comes to choosing Pokemon, a lack of effort put into training or w/e, that's just always been the case :p I don't think there's anyone specific that I really had any trouble with, I just found the entire E4 to be relatively challenging.
I also think the Sinnoh Elite 4 was pretty darn hard, and I don't think I made it through it on the first try during my first playthrough. The only reason for that though is Cynthia. It's been quite a few years, but from how I remember it, all the actual E4 members were pretty easy, whereas Cynthia stood at the end to wreck anyone who was starting to feel confident :p The combination of Milotic, Garchomp and Spirtomb was pretty deadly, so yeah. If I had to list them in order of difficulty, it'd probably go somewhere in the line of: Hoenn Sinnoh B2/W2 Unova Kanto Johto The only one I actually found to be genuinely easy was Johto, and that was entirely because of the low levels. The games progressed incredibly fast, and it wasn't really that hard to prepare yourself for the E4. As long as you've got an Ice type to take out Lance, Koga will be the only one that'll really pose a problem, and that's entirely because of his dirty poison tactics. So yeah, it was pretty hard to choose between Sinnoh, Kanto and Unova, because like I said, Sinnoh was only hard because of Cynthia, and same thing goes for the two others really :p |
Hoenn was by far the hardest. I have yet to beat the Hoenn Elite Four and Champion without using a legendary. >_<
The easiest would definitely be the Johto Elite four. In Hoenn, the highest levels go are like 58, but the highest level Pokémon of Lance's is level 50. It's a really noticeable difference! &_& |
To be honest, I never really found any of them that hard. Occasionally there's some loop that surprises me and changes my strategy (Cynthia, for example, as Olli mentioned) but I've always prevailed quite easily, even without a Legendary. I kinda wish I were able to see that Challenge mode for Black and White, though, 'coz the games in and of themselves are rather simple to beat. I was hoping to see Challenge mode implemented into X and Y (Namely because I don't have Black and White 2, am not likely to get it now that the new generation is out, and still slightly hate the fifth gen for ugly Pokemon), but I suppose I'll have to settle for what is there right now.
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