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Phangy December 14th, 2013 8:54 AM

Safari Discussion (NOT a FC sharing thread)
 
I was just wondering everyone's opinions on this. I found it to be really cool at first, but now that i have 40+ safaris going, it's gotten to the point of having repeats and lots of people not coming online, so the third pokemon is blocked. I know i can remove people and what not, but it seems a bit unpolished and is leaving me missing the old safaris that i don't have to have tons of friends to get some cool pokemon. At the very least they could tell you what your own safari is.


Oh, and if you're looking for the FC sharing thread, it's located on the main X and Y page

Caiustheblack December 14th, 2013 9:18 AM

First of all: there is no point of people being online after the first time.
While you may think having your safari friend online grants an higher shiny encounter ratio, i can grant you that being online or offline, it is exactly the same: out of the 13 shinies i catched from the safaris, only 2 were catched while being online at all ( i got most while scouting safaris for specific natures/maxedivs for breeding.
That said, ALL my shinies from safaris are really lacklusterin something: hindering natures and/or maxed ivs where they are not needed (such like granbull with high special attack...) are a must for me.
Safari are however a much welcome improvement for the breeding process: back in Gen V, for example, the main way to obtain a pokemon with its HA was playing child-ish mini games in dream world....

Megan December 14th, 2013 9:30 AM

It's a nice idea but could have been done better. Besides the point that the safaris all look alike (only a rectangle of grass, no trees, lakes (wild Lapras in the grass, wait what?), etc.) the distribution of Pokemon is really bad. Best example: some people have Dittos in their safaris and some have some uninteresting ones. You can easily guess who's more popular. Some rotation in wild Pokemon would've been nice.

Howmander December 14th, 2013 9:34 AM

also, according to Serebii ( http://www.serebii.net/xy/friendsafari.shtml ) the third slot has nothing to do with them being online, but that they have defeated the Elite Four.

Zigzag991 December 14th, 2013 9:39 AM

For them to beat the Elite 4 and update the Safari, they have to both be online at least once. Although, that's not to bad if they play on occasion.

Phangy December 14th, 2013 9:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caiustheblack (Post 7987537)
First of all: there is no point of people being online after the first time.
While you may think having your safari friend online grants an higher shiny encounter ratio, i can grant you that being online or offline, it is exactly the same: out of the 13 shinies i catched from the safaris, only 2 were catched while being online at all ( i got most while scouting safaris for specific natures/maxedivs for breeding.
That said, ALL my shinies from safaris are really lacklusterin something: hindering natures and/or maxed ivs where they are not needed (such like granbull with high special attack...) are a must for me.
Safari are however a much welcome improvement for the breeding process: back in Gen V, for example, the main way to obtain a pokemon with its HA was playing child-ish mini games in dream world....

never brought up shinnies, mainly cuz shinnies have zero to do with friend safaris. The sole reason it seems easier to find them is cuz of how few pokemon are there, kinda like chain fishing. But shinnies are a conversation best left to it's own thread.

but the problem still remains of the lack of 3rd slot. if people are going online and trading off FC for safaris, they've beaten the game already, that's the only way to get to the safari, it's the people who don't go online while playing. I had to get into the habit of turning it on whenever i open my 3ds cuz it shuts off when it goes to sleep.

Caiustheblack December 14th, 2013 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Phangy (Post 7987579)
never brought up shinnies, mainly cuz shinnies have zero to do with friend safaris. The sole reason it seems easier to find them is cuz of how few pokemon are there, kinda like chain fishing. But shinnies are a conversation best left to it's own thread.

but the problem still remains of the lack of 3rd slot. if people are going online and trading off FC for safaris, they've beaten the game already, that's the only way to get to the safari, it's the people who don't go online while playing. I had to get into the habit of turning it on whenever i open my 3ds cuz it shuts off when it goes to sleep.

Alright, the best solution i have to this is adding people only when you have to trade with them , so you will have too see them online at least once in order to be able to trade :)

Phangy December 14th, 2013 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caiustheblack (Post 7987592)
Alright, the best solution i have to this is adding people only when you have to trade with them , so you will have too see them online at least once in order to be able to trade :)

that limits you to just a handful of people

arinceo December 15th, 2013 4:21 AM

Definitely agree with the limitations of being online at the same time, if you haven't unlocked the third slot you also can't catch any pokemon with their hidden abilities either.

That being said, so much better than the old safari zone being to use your own pokemon.

Nah December 15th, 2013 7:08 AM

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Originally Posted by arinceo (Post 7988864)
That being said, so much better than the old safari zone being to use your own pokemon.


Agreed. I don't care if its just a big square of grass. I came to the Safari to catch Pokémon, not look at the scenery. It's easier/better to catch stuff in the Friend Safari than the old Safari Zones.


Like the others have said, it could use some more variety in the kinds of Pokémon you can catch. It's nice that you can get starters and Dittos and a few other interesting Pokémon (Fletchinders with Gale Wings, for example), but there's a lot of uninteresting Pokémon (really? Bidoofs in the Safari?) and a lot of repeats. I have 4 Fire type Friend Safaris. 3 of them have Magmar and Pyroar in them. Fortunately, one has Fletchinders in them, and another has Braxiens, but still..


Oh, and my Friend Safari info is in my sig.

Giovanni Boss December 15th, 2013 7:44 AM

I love my safari. Ground. Couldn't fit better with my name, considering it's actually Giovanni. xD

By the way, it has Wooper, Camerupt and the ugly rabbit... I wish it was a Gastrodon on the last slot, but hey, we can't be that picky, huh? xD

Phangy December 15th, 2013 9:49 AM

careful with the sharing of personal info, this is not the thread for that, keep it up, it'll get locked. It's about the friend safari in general, not what you got.

I just encountered a glitch. I befriended someone from japan after trading with a passerby, go to his safari, find all 3 pokemon, but when i exit and go back to the menu where you pick your safari, it only shows the first 2 pokemon.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire December 15th, 2013 1:08 PM

I wish they had four or five Pokémon with the fourth and fifth rotating with the other two none online post E4 activated ones.

XxCassiexX December 15th, 2013 1:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caiustheblack (Post 7987537)
First of all: there is no point of people being online after the first time.
While you may think having your safari friend online grants an higher shiny encounter ratio, i can grant you that being online or offline, it is exactly the same: out of the 13 shinies i catched from the safaris, only 2 were catched while being online at all ( i got most while scouting safaris for specific natures/maxedivs for breeding.
That said, ALL my shinies from safaris are really lacklusterin something: hindering natures and/or maxed ivs where they are not needed (such like granbull with high special attack...) are a must for me.
Safari are however a much welcome improvement for the breeding process: back in Gen V, for example, the main way to obtain a pokemon with its HA was playing child-ish mini games in dream world....

Do you believe that synchronize fails with shinies? Have you tried this?

All of the shinies I've found while using synchronize (about 4 of them) had the wrong nature. I lucked out on a Timid Electrode and a Hasty Protean Frogadier. And in the Frogadiers case i was looking for a Timid shiny one with Gardevoir using Synchronize. It failed (but was more than good enough).

Has anyone had success while using Synchronize for shinies?

Howmander December 15th, 2013 1:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XxCassiexX (Post 7989568)
Do you believe that synchronize fails with shinies? Have you tried this?

All of the shinies I've found while using synchronize (about 4 of them) had the wrong nature. I lucked out on a Timid Electrode and a Hasty Protean Frogadier. And in the Frogadiers case i was looking for a Timid shiny one with Gardevoir using Synchronize. It failed (but was more than good enough).

Has anyone had success while using Synchronize for shinies?

yep, I got an Adamant Furfrou. Not what I would have chosen (my regular Furfrou is Jolly) but I was adamant hunting something else in the area.

The thing people forget is that Synchronize doesn't make it 100% the same nature, it only makes it 50% the same nature, meaning there's 50% chance that you WON'T get that nature, so catching 4 with the wrong nature is not that high, really. I've been hunting pokemon with various natures (I have 18 of the 20 natures on various Ralts) and Synchronize definitely works well, but there is still the 50% chance you won't get the nature you are looking for, even on normal pokemon.

Hainline15 December 15th, 2013 2:47 PM

just a quick question, is it easier to get shiny pokemon from a safari? if so, what would i need to do?

Phangy December 15th, 2013 4:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hainline15 (Post 7989648)
just a quick question, is it easier to get shiny pokemon from a safari? if so, what would i need to do?

slightly, less pokemon means better chance to chain them, that's all, go to a shinny thread if you want to know more

Again people, this is NOT a shinny thread, take that talk somewhere please.

Hiatus December 15th, 2013 5:58 PM

I actually like this feature, as it forces us to exchange friend codes (making better use of them) and interact with other players. d: It would have been nice if they offered us a more variety of Pokémon, though. Currently, there's about one-twenty Pokémon (don't know the exact amount; sorry) available at Friend Safari. If there was two-fifty, or maybe even three-hundred, then that would've been much, much better.

Phangy December 15th, 2013 6:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nymphadora (Post 7989911)
I actually like this feature, as it forces us to exchange friend codes (making better use of them) and interact with other players. d: It would have been nice if they offered us a more variety of Pokémon, though. Currently, there's about one-twenty Pokémon (don't know the exact amount; sorry) available at Friend Safari. If there was two-fifty, or maybe even three-hundred, then that would've been much, much better.

there's about 200 pokemone in the safaris total and i do like the fc exchanging, meeting new people, but not everyone is that into the game or have internet all the time. The number of pokemon is good for me, but can't get all of if people aren't coming online or have given up playing.

arinceo December 16th, 2013 1:25 AM

Maybe instead of having the extra pokemon slots locked based on the other player being online/post elite four they could unlock based on the number of entries you have filled in your pokedex? Would be a good incentive provided the numbers aren't set too high. It would be cool if the probability of encountering rarer pokemon or ones with HA's increases as you fill your pokedex.

She_Delphox December 16th, 2013 1:41 AM

I was kinda bothered too with the grassy area being "all the same" and catching water Pokemon like Gyarados, Cloyster and what not just in ... yes, the gras... O_o Would have been nicer in my opinion to just create different safari areas based upon your friend's type.
Something similar in HeartGold/SoulSilver, you had different areas there, with different looks (swampy area with more water-types, desert area with more ground-types, rocky area with more rock-types, and so on). Like, if you would enter a Friend Safari from a friend that has Water-type, make it into a beach or so...
It just doesn't add up at all encountering a large Dargon-like fish in the grass for example... :|

Kinda agree with some of the comments above too, just add a "unique" Pokemon to any friend safari so people would have a reason to add everyone, anyone deserves the same chances, don't make people with Ditto safaris more fortunate with (more) friends than people who have the "bad luck" of just a Safari with obtainable Pokemon in Kalos (for example people who have a safari with Pidgey, Hawlucha and Ducklett or so...).

'nuff said :3

Leonomonn December 16th, 2013 2:12 AM

Well, in terms of the features being mentioned in this thread here are my opinions.

I don't think they should have programmed it where to get the third Pokemon you have to be online at the same time. For example, I have my little brother's friend code registered in my 3DS, but he doesn't have Pokemon X or Y. As a result I will never see what his third Pokemon is unless he gets the game. I know that's a minor complaint, but I don't see the point when they could have just given you all the Pokemon since you're already friends with that person. It would just be less of a hassle if they would allow you to just have them right off the bat.

As for the little square of grass, I was a little disappointed with the lackluster scenery. While I know the safari zone has always been about catching Pokemon, part of what makes Pokemon so much fun is exploring the world that has been laid out for you. I know that in every Pokemon game I've ever played I always wanted to continue the adventure to find the next interesting place I would end up. I think what they could have done instead of just the little patch of grass is maybe use the idea from Heartgold and Soulsilver. They could have given each type its own unique landscape, and then you could take like six of your friends' safari zones and chain them together to build your own unique zone. I don't know what everyone else thinks, but I think that would've been a fun way to do it.

Basically, I like the new idea for the safari zone, but I think it could have been executed in a way that would have made it more interesting for the players.


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