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Mascot Legendaries Problem
Is it just me or does anyone else feel the mascot legendaries in this game (Xerneas and Yveltal) did not get enough of an exposure in the storyline of the game. I feel like they were really unimportant when it came to actually getting up to them and facing them.
If you compare it to 3rd Gen where the entire game was pretty much based off of the legendaries, or even the last 2 gens it felt like the mascot legendaries really had important value to the game where this one had almost nothing outside of facing them and that's all. My question being is anyone else dissapointed by this and do you hope they fix this up in the next game of this series? |
I agree with you. They should base the storyline around the legendaries and not the bad team.
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i don't remember any legendaries being that important in any pokemon game, a lot of the time i felt like they were trying too hard to make them part of some sort of story
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It doesn't really bother me. I guess it'd be a bit cool if they had more sstory importance...but its not something on my wish list.
And mascot legendaries are rarely important to the story anyway. The only time I feel they were was in Black/White. And I guess Groudon/Kyogre/Rayquaza had a little bit of importance in Gen 3, as well as Giratina in Platinum. But just a little. |
My feeling is when I saw the trailer(s) for the game and I saw Xerneas for example it felt like there was going to be some type of importance in relation to the new legends. I imagined the battle with Xerneas being in a forest or something mystical, or at least when you encounter it, it will be there.
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Xerneas and Yveltal got the same story treatment as Kyogre and Groudon in my opinion. You didn't hear anything about them until the bag guys plotted to obtain then and only got to see them right when the bag guys were near their goal. Palkia/Dialga and Reshiram/Zekrom had way more story exposure in their games being mentioned a few times before their plot specific arrival. And mostly referenced by NPCs not belonging to the bad guys.
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I wish the legends had more backstory but then again they excused it by saying the legendary has been asleep for a long time so they know very little...however such an excuse doesn't fit...as Kyogre and Groudon asleep too...and Reshiram and Zekrom were stones... yet we got more out of their stories before facing them (for Groudon and Kyogre their story was in Mt. Pyre). Sure Zekrom and Reshiram helped create Unova...(the political entity I'm assuming as I don't think they have the same powers as the Weather and Creation trio to craft regions...) but Xerneas and Yvetal also changed life in Kalos...which is even bigger of an event. Also...I wonder how Az got the legends in the first place to build the weapon...and how Lysander got them in the present time.
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Ya I felt like I didnt know anything about xerneas until I battled it. It felt like they just forced a legendary into the game.
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during the game they only stated a few things about them, but comparing it with other games, the other legends have much backstory and also the teams showed what they were searching and what they were planning to do with them, but since generation 5, teams have succesfully caught the legendary pokemon and put into action part of their plans. For XY I guess they remained in a low profile, they only gave info on what they were planning to do, then the machine, and at the end the source power (the legends), this may be because they already got the legendary pokemon and went like secret agents not telling anyone what methods they were going to use, only what they wanted to do. So maybe they did everything top secret and the player had to speculate/figure out what they were going to do and use and when they finally infiltrate into their base they find the shocking truth.
So in synthesis, legends in previous regions had more backstories, the legends in this generation were kept top secret until it was the moment of the truth. |
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Also Az proably did use the legend as the legend served as the core as the weapon and what gathers the energy. Also it's likely where they get all the info on them from for the dex such as Yvetal absorbing peoples lives. |
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As for the info on the pokemon, that's a thing you're not supposed to talk about cuz it would point out a major plot hole in the games. |
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I agree. I didn't pay attention to the dialogue that much this game, but when I did, they only mentioned Yveltal/Xerneas a handfull of times. I like when the game is based around the main thing you know what I'm saying?
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You know what I find ironic, the people who complained about how GF needs to focus less on the mascot legendaries on their stories are now complaining about the lack of importance of said mascot legendaries on their stories. It's people like them the reason why Xerneas and Yveltal were barely mentioned in the game's plot outside of their subplot from Anister City.
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didn't lysandre give himself immortality at the end?
i have a feeling the story isn't done yet. |
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Maybe not z version... remember we all expected grey version but we got black 2 and white 2. Maybe we'll get x2 and y2 and the story will continue rather than a z version thats the same except with zygarde.
but x2 and y2... sounds like math |
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I was so underwhelmed by the legendary involvement. They were hardly mentioned then suddenly they're infront of you and you have to catch them. I was caught off guard. And the same with Zygarde, Mewtwo et al, they're just there They could've/should've been incorporated a lot more. Hopefully Z will fix this. :P |
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In X, there's a statement where Lysandre at the end, before unleashing the power of the machine, says something about eternal life, in Y it's reversed stating destruction; it's more of a reference from the source power, it was stated before in other threads, Xerneas = life Yveltal = destruction, something like that. |
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They didn't get mentioned by name until fairly late in the game, it seemed to me. While the moment leading up to their appearance is pretty intense, that's kind of their only moment in the spotlight.
On a "side" note, today I caught Yveltal after two hits with a Great ball, first try. Probably my best luck catching a legendary ever. |
Agreed, I thought that Xerneas and Yveltal should've gotten more exposure earlier in the game. If they weren't on the cover, most people probably wouldn't even know about them until late on. Also what about Zygarde? Lol I didn't even know about him until way after I beat the game, now that was a tease too. I believe that we should've had a bigger impact like in DP or R/S/E had. Don't get me wrong, I liked the story that XY had, but there were many flaws in it.
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Oh for Jesus Christ people! Use your brains now because if you think about it you didn't know anything about Mewtwo or Mew until you got to Cinnabar Islands on Generation I, Ho-Oh and Lugia were mentioned first time when reaching Ecruteak City on Generation II, Groudon and Kyogre when getting to that weird cemetery mountain on Generation III and Dialga and Palkia when... I don't even remember, because it was so late on the games. Only the fifth generation lifted cat on the table right in the beginning but by far it has been the worst generation ever and the plot was really twisted to begin with so we can't count on that in the end. The legendaries hasn't ever been the main character in the plot or the evil team - plot has always focused on you filling up the PokéDex and the evil team with legendaries has been a sideplot from the beginning. Not to forget that the third part of the main trio weren't even mentioned that much in the games in two first generations - Mew was mentioned on Cinnabar Island and Celebi was completely event distributed. It was in the third generation that started to make it so that the third installment of the generation was about the third legendary and there they'd have bigger role for the plot. :P
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