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Banned March 16th, 2014 1:35 AM

Question: Is there supposed to be some sort of animation when Unburden activates? I'm using it on Hawlucha in conjunction with Power Herb, and I think it's working, but there's no message or anything to tell me, which is odd.

Hikamaru March 16th, 2014 1:54 AM

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Originally Posted by berlyda (Post 8146621)
Question: Is there supposed to be some sort of animation when Unburden activates? I'm using it on Hawlucha in conjunction with Power Herb, and I think it's working, but there's no message or anything to tell me, which is odd.

I think that when the item of the Unburden holder is lost, I don't think the message pops up. That's what I remember when I used something with Unburden. I know some abilities have the message pop up but not in this case I'm afraid.

Dark_Yveltal March 16th, 2014 3:35 AM

Hey everyone, can you please help me?

I have the following question: I am breeding for a shiny Larvitar now, one larvitar (father) is japanese and the mother is obviously my own. I gave the mother an Everstone, to pass on her nature/ability to the "babies". I'm around 280 Eggs now, but this may sound stupid, but does the Everstone affect Masuda Method? Is it somehow harder to get a shiny or doesn't this matter at all and your odds are still the same?

Maybe someone has experiences with this one, I appreciate your help and thanks in advance!

Onicon March 16th, 2014 3:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dark_Yveltal (Post 8146750)
Hey everyone, can you please help me?

I have the following question: I am breeding for a shiny Larvitar now, one larvitar (father) is japanese and the mother is obviously my own. I gave the mother an Everstone, to pass on her nature/ability to the "babies". I'm around 280 Eggs now, but this may sound stupid, but does the Everstone affect Masuda Method? Is it somehow harder to get a shiny or doesn't this matter at all and your odds are still the same?

Maybe someone has experiences with this one, I appreciate your help and thanks in advance!

Well no; for example we always scount one egg after another for IVs, and never with Everstones. When we found a shiny, we had replaced the the parents with other ones, one holding an Everstone. The egg still turned out to the shiny.

Howmander March 16th, 2014 4:14 AM

So I know the power of Rollout or Ice Ball doubles right after using Defense Curl, does it HAVE to be Defense Curl used right before using Rollout or Ice Ball to get the benefit, or can it be ANY defense raising move? I am planning a Bidoof (with SImple Ability) to have Skull Bash and was wondering if Rollout would have any benefit from it.

Banned March 16th, 2014 4:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Howmander (Post 8146789)
So I know the power of Rollout or Ice Ball doubles right after using Defense Curl, does it HAVE to be Defense Curl used right before using Rollout or Ice Ball to get the benefit, or can it be ANY defense raising move? I am planning a Bidoof (with SImple Ability) to have Skull Bash and was wondering if Rollout would have any benefit from it.

It's just Defense Curl (makes sense, since it curls into a ball when using Defense Curl, ready for Rollout / Ice Ball).

Miau March 16th, 2014 4:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Howmander (Post 8146789)
So I know the power of Rollout or Ice Ball doubles right after using Defense Curl, does it HAVE to be Defense Curl used right before using Rollout or Ice Ball to get the benefit, or can it be ANY defense raising move? I am planning a Bidoof (with SImple Ability) to have Skull Bash and was wondering if Rollout would have any benefit from it.

Just Defense Curl. And you can use it any time in battle before Rollout/Ice Ball, not necessarily right before, and you get the boost as long as the Pokemon hasn't switched out of battle.

Hikamaru March 16th, 2014 4:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Onicon (Post 8146762)
Well no; for example we always scount one egg after another for IVs, and never with Everstones. When we found a shiny, we had replaced the the parents with other ones, one holding an Everstone. The egg still turned out to the shiny.

As far as I'm aware of breeding mechanics, Everstone only affects nature. If one parent holds an Everstone in X/Y, it'll pass down its nature to the baby Pokemon 100% of the time, like it was in Black 2/White 2.

I don't recall it affecting the chances of getting shinies.

Shhmew March 16th, 2014 1:54 PM

Everstone only passes down Nature (100% of the time), and from what I've experienced, it and the Destiny Knot don't affect shininess in any way. In fact it's pretty much the only way to get a shiny that's any good for competitive battling, you know? (well, except cheating or trading)

Just don't give up :D

Shrew March 16th, 2014 6:24 PM

1) Restaurant Le Wow. How much exp do you get total from defeating everything?

With this number, I plan to take into account multipliers (O-Power, Lucky Egg, being unevolved) to make it most efficient to get things at exactly lv50.

2) What % chance does Chansey hold Lucky Eggs?

3) If I have a pokemon hold a Lucky Egg, but don't use it in battle... Will the Exp Share combine with the Lucky Egg? Or will I just get the normal share? (I'm not sure if there's any point in getting more than 3 Lucky Eggs because Rotation/Triples only allow 3 on the field at once.)

Hiatus March 16th, 2014 8:05 PM

For your second question, apparently one in every twenty Chansey hold Lucky Egg. If I were to make an estimate, the percentage would be somewhere around five or so. :P

arinceo March 16th, 2014 8:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Shrew (Post 8148912)
1) Restaurant Le Wow. How much exp do you get total from defeating everything?

With this number, I plan to take into account multipliers (O-Power, Lucky Egg, being unevolved) to make it most efficient to get things at exactly lv50.

Not sure exactly :S Which is rather sad considering I've done literally hundreds of the double battles!

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Originally Posted by Shrew (Post 8148912)
2) What % chance does Chansey hold Lucky Eggs?

You can increase it from five to 20% if the first pokemon in your party has Compound Eyes as its ability.
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Originally Posted by Shrew (Post 8148912)
3) If I have a pokemon hold a Lucky Egg, but don't use it in battle... Will the Exp Share combine with the Lucky Egg? Or will I just get the normal share? (I'm not sure if there's any point in getting more than 3 Lucky Eggs because Rotation/Triples only allow 3 on the field at once.)

Having the Lucky Egg on a pokemon not in battle will still give it boosted exp points on top of what it typically would receive from the EXP share.

Pokemon in battle - 100% EXP
Pokemon in party with Lucky Egg - 75% EXP
Pokemon in party - 50% EXP

Howmander March 17th, 2014 12:35 PM

So people have gotten AZ's Floette with the power save, has anyone gotten those two secret Vivillon patterns yet then?

Sopheria March 17th, 2014 2:06 PM

Is Hawlucha's Flying Press able to hit through Wonder Guard?

Onicon March 17th, 2014 2:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sopheria (Post 8150501)
Is Hawlucha's Flying Press able to hit through Wonder Guard?

It did not hit, presumably because the flying type is only a secondary effect.

PS: Come to think off, we had no Mold Breaker. That is something we need to test once we find a Hawlucha with it.

Nah March 17th, 2014 3:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Howmander (Post 8150276)
So people have gotten AZ's Floette with the power save, has anyone gotten those two secret Vivillon patterns yet then?

Wait, there's 2 extra Vivillon patterns? When did this happen?

PlatinumDude March 17th, 2014 3:14 PM

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Originally Posted by No Chance Without Zekrom (Post 8150671)
Wait, there's 2 extra Vivillon patterns? When did this happen?

The hacker who revealed Diancie, Volcanion, Hoopa, Mega [email protected] and AZ's Floette also revealed the extra Vivillon patterns. There's also no word on whether those Vivillon patterns were actually used.

Also, Flying Press still does not hit Shedinja because it's still a Fighting move:
0* effectiveness (Fighting) x 2* effectiveness (Flying) = 0, therefore, Shedinja is still immune.

destinedjagold March 17th, 2014 5:45 PM

Question related to Masuda Method shiny breeding.
We now all know that there is a probable bug in the game that forgets the parents are MM-able after we shut the game off and turn it back on
At least, I think everyone knows about this 'bug' now...
, therefore, we need to get the parents back and put them back in so the game can tell that parents are MM-able.

So my question is, would it be enough to just withdraw the foreign parent and put it back in to enable the Masuda Method again?

Flushed March 17th, 2014 6:01 PM

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Originally Posted by destinedjagold (Post 8150983)
Question related to Masuda Method shiny breeding.
We now all know that there is a probable bug in the game that forgets the parents are MM-able after we shut the game off and turn it back on
At least, I think everyone knows about this 'bug' now...
, therefore, we need to get the parents back and put them back in so the game can tell that parents are MM-able.

So my question is, would it be enough to just withdraw the foreign parent and put it back in to enable the Masuda Method again?

Whoa, wait a second. I guess I've never heard of this bug, because that means I've wasted soooo much time with non-MM breeding.

Do you have a source (which could potentially answer your question as well)? I would assume that recognition of nationality is determined as they're dropped off, since that's a factor in chance of egg production, so I think taking out parents and putting them back in would solve any potential glitch, but I'm not sure.

destinedjagold March 17th, 2014 6:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Flushed (Post 8151017)
Whoa, wait a second. I guess I've never heard of this bug, because that means I've wasted soooo much time with non-MM breeding.

Do you have a source (which could potentially answer your question as well)? I would assume that recognition of nationality is determined as they're dropped off, since that's a factor in chance of egg production, so I think taking out parents and putting them back in would solve any potential glitch, but I'm not sure.

Quoted from the [Has anybody gotten a Masuda Method Shiny yet?] thread.

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Originally Posted by Cordelia (Post 8131836)
When you start your game, take out your parents and then redeposit them. In Trade Corner, we've postulated that the game has a bug in it where it 'forgets' that your parents are Masuda-capable and doesn't take account of the Shiny Charm when you turn your game off. So when you turn it back on, take your parents out and then put them back in. Of course, you have to be careful with your egg moves (making sure they still know them) with this method, but it works. I've gotten two shinies in three days and I do not have the Shiny Charm.


Flushed March 17th, 2014 6:10 PM

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Originally Posted by destinedjagold (Post 8151023)
Quoted from the [Has anybody gotten a Masuda Method Shiny yet?] thread.

Oh ok, I gotcha, and you're asking whether to take out one parents or both?

I'd say take out both, because it only determines "foreign" status in comparison to the other 'mon and not your game, and perhaps will only recognize the nationality upon putting it in the DayCare.

destinedjagold March 17th, 2014 6:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Flushed (Post 8151027)
Oh ok, I gotcha, and you're asking whether to take out one parents or both?

I'd say take out both, because it only determines "foreign" status in comparison to the other 'mon and not your game, and perhaps will only recognize the nationality upon putting it in the DayCare.

What a waste of heart scales. =/
Aw well~
/grabs more heart scales from pokemon-gl~

Flushed March 17th, 2014 6:25 PM

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Originally Posted by destinedjagold (Post 8151041)
What a waste of heart scales. =/
Aw well~
/grabs more heart scales from pokemon-gl~

If you're using the Lumiose method, soft-resetting should save you from spending scales. If you're using KeySav/any other method, I guess that does mean quite a few Heart Scales.

destinedjagold March 17th, 2014 7:05 PM

Question: if we delete a friend from our friend list, will they then appear on our acquaintance list?

XpokeX March 17th, 2014 9:54 PM

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Originally Posted by destinedjagold (Post 8150983)
Question related to Masuda Method shiny breeding.
We now all know that there is a probable bug in the game that forgets the parents are MM-able after we shut the game off and turn it back on
At least, I think everyone knows about this 'bug' now...
, therefore, we need to get the parents back and put them back in so the game can tell that parents are MM-able.

So my question is, would it be enough to just withdraw the foreign parent and put it back in to enable the Masuda Method again?

It won't affect me if i just close my DS to sleep mode right? Just when i close the game?


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