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Sopheria February 18th, 2014 3:12 PM

There's no doubt that these games are classics, and I've been playing Pokemon since they first came out. But I would personally recommend you give these a pass, and instead play the remakes: FireRed and LeafGreen. If you want to play for the novelty value, then have at it. But if you're looking for a quality game, then you'll probably be really disappointed.

The thing about these games is, they don't do anything that the later games don't do 10 times better. Plus, as your friend mentioned, they're horribly unbalanced in terms of moves and type matchups. They really haven't aged well, so you're better off going with the remakes. The remakes are identical, but with better graphics, less bugs, and better balance. Plus there's an entire extra area to explore with some new Pokemon that you can access after you defeat the Elite Four.

Virtual Chatot February 18th, 2014 4:54 PM

I play them for nostalgia's sake, because I've been a fan of Pokémon for sixteen years, and I still remember holding the Pokémon Blue box, wrapped in that annoying plastic, after my mom bought it for me for my birthday. They're great games. They're nearly flawless with regard to gameplay, even if they're somewhat unbalanced technically. I'm actually playing through Pokémon Blue on my phone when I get bored, and the nostalgic feeling is amazing.

That said, as zomgitscathy said, you might fair better playing through Firered and Leafgreen. The graphics are a lot better, and the gameplay is more or less the same. You get the edition of the Sevii islands, and the Vs. Seeker makes it a lot more fun to rebattle trainers later on (and extends playability a long way). If you want to see where Pokémon got its start however, please, play them! :)

PastelVulpix February 18th, 2014 5:06 PM

Of course these games are the original classics, and they will always hold a special place in my heart. However, the will probably not have the same effect on a new player. I can't expect you to feel the same feelings as I do when I look back at these games. To someone who has recently experienced the wonder of Pokemon X and Y, the originals will seem dark, slow and probably boring. If you become a die hard Pokemon fan - to the point where you have to have seen / done / played everything that is Pokemon, then of course. See where it all started. If you're looking for something else to play because there's little left to do in your present game, try maybe just a generation back the way. Good luck in your discovery ~

Legobricks March 17th, 2014 4:41 PM

Honestly, no; unless you're into old games anyway, they aren't really an ideal introduction to the series for the very reasons you provided. I would start you off with the third generation games, but it's ultimately a matter of knowing your own taste, as I said: if you're into old games and discovering all the strange glitches, go for it; if not, given that you won't be influenced by nostalgia (and assuming you're relatively young if you've never played Pokemon proper), it really isn't the best bet for a first impression. What does youth have to do with it? Different expectations for different eras of gaming, that's all.

Aeroblast March 18th, 2014 2:58 PM

If you're comparing a game from 17 years ago to X and Y today, of course it's flawed. But if you look at it from that time perspective, it was quite impressive.

At this moment though, RSE doesn't really have much going for it other than the retro/nostalgic value. Unless you want to exploit glitches, I'd recommend the remakes.

giradialkia March 18th, 2014 4:14 PM

The older games are definitely worth playing, even if only to say that you've played them. It might be interesting to see how Pokémon started, if you already know what it's become today in X and Y. I've recently played through Yellow again, and... well, some things (a lot of things, really) haven't aged all that well - but we're really spoilt rotten with X and Y and other games of the past few generations, so it's worth approaching with an open mind and just bear in mind that you can pretty much play through with just your starter to do it quickly. It was very much possible back in the day.

CelticsPhan March 18th, 2014 5:37 PM

When I play the originals, I think of the "humble beginnings" this series has had, and all of the good memories I had with Blue. While it is unquestionable that these games have aged, it doesn't matter to me. Sometimes I see the new games and get overwhelmed by the complexity.

Ask any random teenager off the street about Pokemon, and they'll talk about Red or Blue. When people think Pokemon, they still think Pikachu, Charmander, Squirtle (I have my own opinions on these people that I'd rather not share).

The point of my post is that we should cherish the classics, no matter how rough they look today. You can't form an opinion on a game that you haven't played. I think of the Zelda series where people still love Ocarina of Time, and Mario players who still love Super Mario 64. If you don't like it, then nothing is lost. At least you tried it.

If color is the issue, play Yellow or Gold, Silver and Crystal, or any of the more recent games.
I recommend you download the Gen 2 Graphic Patch so that the game doesn't look like a pile of junk

KidCarter93 March 18th, 2014 10:50 PM

I personally think that anyone who is just entering the world of Pokémon should play the originals first. Although that opinion isn't really valid because each to their own..

Having been playing since release there's a huge nostalgia factor involved when I decide to pull out my Gameboy Pocket and play a game. After the graphics great compared to today's standard? Of course not but, as others have said, they were decent at the time.
As I'm sure the other older players can agree with, back then we weren't bothered about graphics or glitches anyway. Glitches were cool because it was something extra for the game + we were so interested in actually playing through the games that even if the graphics weren't the best at that point or the storyline wasn't great, it really didn't matter considering we were kids anyway and those "issues" wouldn't get in the way of enjoying the games.

In response to whether you should start with these games, I can only emulate other people answers and say that it depends on your reasoning. If you want to see what all the fuss was about and want to experience the roots of Pokémon gaming play Gen1. If you want updated graphics/more features/better storylines etc. play the later games :)

- James

Zorogami March 19th, 2014 1:55 AM

The games were definitely fun as heck when they first came out, and we all played the crap out of them. But to be honest, if you look at how far we have come, they definitely look like old pieces of dung, sorry. Especially if you consider the fact that one can play FR/LG, which is basically the same but improved, i wouldt say playing any of the originals is a must. If one has played them before, sure, but for a newbie i dont think it would be too great of an experience.

SandslashFTW March 21st, 2014 6:38 AM

The games are fine.

You'll only come across bugs and glitches if you go out of your way to look for them. I have been playing RBY since release and not once have I come across a bug I didn't deliberately look for using the help of the internet. So it really baffles me when I hear people say there are so many glitches that the game is 'broken'.

Only Pokemon veterans who have a strong grasp of battling will notice how unbalanced the game is. A casual player who doesn't battle competitively won't notice a thing.

That being said, there isn't really anything RBY does that FireRed/LeafGreen doesn't do better, so I'd recommend starting there.

Eevee March 21st, 2014 7:03 AM

I think they've aged so badly that anyone wanting to play Pokemon for the first time is much better off playing the current game that's out. If anything, playing the remakes, Fire Red/Leaf Green is the better option. I believe that the original games are more for nostalgia or to see how far Pokemon has came along the way.

I don't recommend skipping it since we all should play all of the Pokemon games eventually but it's definitely not a game where if you skip it, you'll miss out. The remakes are just as fine, if not better.

Gulpin March 23rd, 2014 7:55 AM

If you can get past the graphics, they're really fun to play. They're so retro and they work great as long as you aren't trying to exploit any bugs. They're really fast to play through as well, which gives them high replay value in my point of view.

mangamusicfan March 24th, 2014 12:21 PM

Get them the classic's Are really good, I enjoyed them More than most of them now.
Yes they are Buggy and sometimes Broken, But they still have there charm.

Elaitenstile March 24th, 2014 8:49 PM

For technology's sake, it's almost redundant to consider these games into the Pokémon world after the remakes and the Gen III cut-off. However, the music is amazing in these (they give you so much nostalgia) games and the horrendous 8-bit graphics are actually something you could get used to. If you want to enjoy RGBY, you should play them first, and then the newer games because you'll still love them because of nostalgia. This is from personal experience, trust me. If you played a newer game first, chances are you'd ignore them half way and chuck them off for a more technologically advanced FireRed and LeafGreen.

orangeralts21 March 26th, 2014 3:29 PM

Wow, people actually say that?

Of course as it is early in the series, there are going to be some bugs and glitches, but these games are absolutely worth playing.

LusoTrainer March 27th, 2014 1:15 AM

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Originally Posted by orangeralts21 (Post 8168286)
Wow, people actually say that?

Of course as it is early in the series, there are going to be some bugs and glitches, but these games are absolutely worth playing.

Every game has bugs and glitches, and I agree that it's not a very good excuse. But excluding nostalgia or mere curiosity, I really don't see the point in starting with these when FireRed/LeafGreen exist (I wouldn't say the same for Gold/Silver and their remakes though).

And I started with Pokémon Red back in the '90s.

MainstreamMew March 29th, 2014 8:47 AM

Very much worth playing in my opinion. You could do the originals or FireRed and LeafGreen. Yellow is a pretty cool and unique version in itself too although it's very over-powered with the Pokemon you can get ha.

Boured April 14th, 2014 10:25 AM

Yes I would because just because it was buggy crap now does not mean it was back then it is awesome to play the originals it's like looking at history of how far pokemon has come

Harmonious Fusion April 14th, 2014 10:55 AM

I think everyone who has an opportunity should play a Kanto game, just to get an appreciation of Pokemon's history and how far the series has come. I personally can't stand the true originals because they're so buggy and broken and slow, so I'd recommend FireRed and LeafGreen instead.

Gentleman Gengar April 16th, 2014 10:50 PM

I basically grew up with a GBA and Pokemon Red by my side, I prefer it over X or Y or Black 2 or whatever.

PauloPT90 April 17th, 2014 3:20 AM

i recently reset my Pokemon Yellow to start it over again.
I want to try the glitchs on it xD

PSNGhost April 17th, 2014 9:54 AM

I grew up with the 3rd and 4th generations of Pokemon (I'm fairly young) but i do think that to truly appreciate the series and it's progress you should have a chance to play the originals. Plus I just think they're fun.

Elswood April 17th, 2014 1:27 PM

Simple answer. Yes! Ofcourse they're buggy. Come on, the Missigno. glitch, even the Mew trick. But that doesn't mean that they suck. Sometimes I even pop Pokémon Stadium in the N64 and play with my team from way back. Love them, never stop loving them! :)

Xebelleon April 17th, 2014 10:41 PM

I would recommend to a newer fan to be *aware* Yellow is much like the early anime, play Red OR Blue because of that Cinnabar exploit and Missingno., Gold or Silver for cloning.

Altairis April 18th, 2014 9:06 PM

No. You don't have to play RBY. I never played Red or Blue and the farthest I ever got on Yellow was past Brock's gym because the game kept freezing :( Just play something never tbh. They are all made for newbies in a sense. You won't be lost if you start anywhere else.


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