The PokéCommunity Forums

The PokéCommunity Forums (https://www.pokecommunity.com/index.php)
-   Competitive Pokémon (https://www.pokecommunity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=260)
-   -   RMT New allrouder team (https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=317780)

PlatinumDude March 21st, 2014 9:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemanman (Post 8158011)
Okay how about
Knock off/giga impact/

Never bother with Giga Impact at all. While it's strong, it leaves the user a sitting duck the next turn. That, and Mandibuzz is meant to be a support Pokemon.

pokemanman March 21st, 2014 9:59 AM

How about
Knock off/Giga Impact/Toxic/Rest ?

pokemanman March 21st, 2014 10:00 AM

How about Substitute + Giga Impact

I consider it to be more of a wall, though

PlatinumDude March 21st, 2014 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemanman (Post 8158014)
How about
Knock off/Giga Impact/Toxic/Rest ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemanman (Post 8158017)
How about Substitute + Giga Impact

No to Giga Impact. At all. Ever. Did you see what I said about it?

pokemanman March 21st, 2014 10:07 AM

Yes, I understood. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if we use substitute and then giga impact, we won't be open to damage

PlatinumDude March 21st, 2014 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemanman (Post 8158033)
Yes, I understood. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if we use substitute and then giga impact, we won't be open to damage

That's still a terrible strategy. Both moves take up important move slots that could be used for utility and recovery. The moves I listed for Mandibuzz a page earlier are all important, though the 4th slot is open to 3 options.

Nah March 21st, 2014 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemanman (Post 8158033)
Yes, I understood. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if we use substitute and then giga impact, we won't be open to damage


You don't ever wanna skip a turn, even if behind a Sub; it wastes the shielding a Sub provides. And Mandibuzz's Attack is too low to make use of Giga Impact anyway (Knock Off is to cripple item dependent pokes, while Foul Play uses the other Pokémon's Attack stat).

pokemanman March 23rd, 2014 9:13 AM

Okay, I'll keep trying. Can I have a poke other than Chesnaught? I just realized that it won't work out..

Nah March 23rd, 2014 11:25 AM

Iirc, Chesnaught was suggested as the team's Electric/Fighting resist. Gliscor (which I mentioned on the 2nd page) works nicely. If you can't get one with Poison Heal, then Gourgesut or Trevenant are good as well:

-Super Size Gourgeist w/Leftovers
Nature: Impish
Ability: Frisk
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Sp.Defense
Moves: Leech Seed, Wili-o-Wisp, Shadow Sneak, Seed Bomb

or

Small Size Gourgeist w/Leftovers
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Frisk
EVs: 252 HP, 72 Defense, 184 Speed
Moves: Will-o-Wisp, Leech Seed, Seed Bomb, Protect/Substitute

-Trevenant w/Sitrus Berry
Nature: Impish
Ability: Harvest
EVs: 252 HP, 180 Defense, 76 Speed
Moves: Leech Seed, Substitute/Protect, Will-o-Wisp, Phantom Force/Shadow Claw

or

Trevenant w/Leftovers or Lum Berry
Nature: Impish/Adamant
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP, 180 Defense, 76 Speed
Moves: Horn Leech, Earthquake/Rock Slide, Will-o-Wisp, Rest

pokemanman March 24th, 2014 11:31 AM

Alright! I've got a gliscor. Now I need 2 more pokes to finish the team. How about a Forretress for an opener?

PlatinumDude March 24th, 2014 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemanman (Post 8163733)
Alright! I've got a gliscor. Now I need 2 more pokes to finish the team. How about a Forretress for an opener?

Not happening. Forretress has fallen out of favor because of the prominence of Defog wiping away the hazards it set up.

pokemanman March 24th, 2014 11:55 AM

Then could you suggest some?
Edit: bump

pokemanman March 28th, 2014 2:27 AM

Scizor @ Choice Band
Trait: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 248 HP / 8 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
-Bullet Punch
-U Turn
-Pursuit
-Defog

Is this good? I found it while browsing marriland.

PlatinumDude March 28th, 2014 9:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemanman (Post 8170896)
Scizor @ Choice Band
Trait: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 248 HP / 8 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
-Bullet Punch
-U Turn
-Pursuit
-Defog

Is this good? I found it while browsing marriland.

Defog is bad for a Choice set, as it leaves it locked into a single move while it's in battle:
-U-turn
-Bullet Punch
-Superpower
-Pursuit/Knock Off
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 248 HP/252 Atk/8 SDef
Item: Choice Band
Ability: Technician

or
-U-turn
-Bullet Punch/Knock Off
-Defog
-Roost
Nature: Impish
EVs: 248 HP/8 Atk/252 Def
Item: Scizorite

pokemanman April 4th, 2014 12:47 AM

How about a not-to-be-♥♥♥♥led-with Shuckle?

PlatinumDude April 4th, 2014 6:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemanman (Post 8182079)
How about a not-to-be-♥♥♥♥led-with Shuckle?

No. Don't bother with it. While it may seem tempting to use with its high defenses, its low HP, lack of offensive presence, bad defensive typing and tendency to be setup bait make it not worthy to be used.

WingedDragon April 4th, 2014 12:49 PM

My suggestion is dont go offensive. Thats what I try to run and I get nailed to the way by people that half way know what they are doing.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 1:41 AM.


Like our Facebook Page Follow us on Twitter © 2002 - 2018 The PokéCommunity™, pokecommunity.com.
Pokémon characters and images belong to The Pokémon Company International and Nintendo. This website is in no way affiliated with or endorsed by Nintendo, Creatures, GAMEFREAK, The Pokémon Company or The Pokémon Company International. We just love Pokémon.
All forum styles, their images (unless noted otherwise) and site designs are © 2002 - 2016 The PokéCommunity / PokéCommunity.com.
PokéCommunity™ is a trademark of The PokéCommunity. All rights reserved. Sponsor advertisements do not imply our endorsement of that product or service. User generated content remains the property of its creator.

Acknowledgements
Use of PokéCommunity Assets
vB Optimise by DragonByte Technologies Ltd © 2023.