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TRIFORCE89 January 15th, 2015 6:25 PM

I feel kind bad for thinking what Nintendo showed of Puzzles & Dragons yesterday looked fun :(

Sir Codin January 15th, 2015 6:46 PM

Thinking Skyrim was better than Morrowind was a huge mistake on my part.

Also, reading the last page made me laugh.

"Which is better: Fallout 3 or Fallout: New Vegas?"

This question isn't a matter of opinion. There is clearly a right answer and a wrong answer.

Klippy January 15th, 2015 8:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TRIFORCE89 (Post 8581408)
I feel kind bad for thinking what Nintendo showed of Puzzles & Dragons yesterday looked fun :(

Um, why? P&D is pretty fun, though mindless. I am hyped as heck for it, haha.

TRIFORCE89 January 15th, 2015 8:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Klippy (Post 8581537)
Um, why? P&D is pretty fun, though mindless. I am hyped as heck for it, haha.

It looks super fun and addictive

And I know it's on 3DS, but I'm sceptical of the mobile aspect

Klippy January 15th, 2015 8:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TRIFORCE89 (Post 8581539)
It looks super fun and addictive

And I know it's on 3DS, but I'm sceptical of the mobile aspect

The mobile phone version has a lot of restrictions put on it to encourage pay-to-play type stuff, but I've heard the previous iteration on the 3DS (DS?) was more functionally appropriate for a handheld console, not a mobile game.

Pinkie-Dawn January 18th, 2015 9:03 AM

I may try out P&D on my 3DS when I have the chance to purchase it, since it's available on a proper game handheld rather than a mobile phone.

El Héroe Oscuro January 18th, 2015 9:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 8584867)
I may try out P&D on my 3DS when I have the chance to purchase it, since it's available on a proper game handheld rather than a mobile phone.

What is Puzzle & Dragons about? Hopefully not the literal meaning.

Pendraflare January 18th, 2015 9:34 AM

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Originally Posted by El Héroe Oscuro (Post 8584881)
What is Puzzle & Dragons about? Hopefully not the literal meaning.

Taken from its Wikipedia page:

"Puzzle & Dragons is at its core a match-three puzzle game, requiring players to move and match colored orbs arranged in a grid. The amount and type of matches determine which of the six monsters on the player's team attack the waves of enemy monsters and how much damage they do. An additional layer of challenge is the acquisition, selection, and improvement of a team of monsters from among thousands ranging from standard fantasy fare, to deities from several religions and mythologies and characters from popular entertainment franchises."

Hm.

Alexander Nicholi January 18th, 2015 10:18 AM

Holy crap
this exists

I seriously hermit way too much in General Chat. There's like other mega threads besides the DCC, and it isn't post-and-go at all. Whaaaaaaat

Dustmop January 18th, 2015 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Pendraflare (Post 8584905)
Taken from its Wikipedia page:

"Puzzle & Dragons is at its core a match-three puzzle game, requiring players to move and match colored orbs arranged in a grid. The amount and type of matches determine which of the six monsters on the player's team attack the waves of enemy monsters and how much damage they do. An additional layer of challenge is the acquisition, selection, and improvement of a team of monsters from among thousands ranging from standard fantasy fare, to deities from several religions and mythologies and characters from popular entertainment franchises."

Hm.

I've heard of P&D a lot in here, but I never bothered to look it up, either, lol. So thank you. That immediately reminded me of ReignMaker - it's a tower-defense and town building game, but primarily it's also a match-three.

I seriously love what they're doing with match-three games these days. If it's really gonna be on the 3DS, I may look into grabbing it, myself. Not like I could play the mobile version right now, anyway, my paperweight is laying dead inside my nightstand. :P

Pendraflare January 18th, 2015 3:53 PM

There are plenty of match-three puzzle games that i've liked playing (one of them is the Pokémon Game Month going on over at PGC right now), so if Puzzles and Dragons gets enough buzz that might be something for me to look into. They aren't something that I would always play but i've played different variants of them.

Alexander Nicholi January 18th, 2015 6:45 PM

I recall years and years ago we had a few really cool puzzle games that came with our OS's ValueAdd package on XP. Those things were so much fun, but I don't remember them enough to find them anymore. Shame I guess.

I dunno, sometimes I'd do puzzle games on my phone. When I game it's really a sit-down thing for me, though. I play a game, finish it, it's an affair.

machomuu January 18th, 2015 8:25 PM

...So I just read a fantastic Kotaku article called "The People Who Only Play One Video Game", and...it's really a shame how many people don't actually read the articles they post on. They just read the title, (possibly) skim over it, and post in regards to the title alone.

The article is about the writer having gone to PAX Australia and quickly finding himself lost in this fascination that is niche gaming. Specifically, World of Tanks and League of Legends. This is where most of the posters seem to have stopped- basically the beginning of the article. It goes on to talk about the mindsets behind the marketing of the aforementioned games as well as Blizzard, and explores gaming as a service and gaming as a culture. It's quite the interesting look at sustainable games and community-developer communication, but...it also seems like a waste. Most of the posts in the comments section talk about (and possibly deride) esports and how they couldn't possibly see themselves playing only one game, despite the fact that they have little to do with what the article is trying to get across (and are really only used to segue into the larger topic). This could be said for any article, really. I mean, sure, there will be people who will read at least most of the article, but if I got a penny for every time a reader saw a topic and then went straight to the comments, I'd be a rich man.

Pinkie-Dawn January 19th, 2015 8:24 AM

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Originally Posted by machomuu (Post 8585573)
...So I just read a fantastic Kotaku article called "The People Who Only Play One Video Game", and...it's really a shame how many people don't actually read the articles they post on. They just read the title, (possibly) skim over it, and post in regards to the title alone.

It's because the majority of articles at Kotaku are sensationalist articles w/ click bait titles to tick gamers off. They're also anti-Gamergate, since one of its employees was involved in the Zoe Quinn scandal.

Mark Kamill January 19th, 2015 8:41 AM

Wait, gamer-gate made its way over to this corner of the net as well? Never followed it closely, but I'll be damned if I ever wanted to. Such an awful mess over a woman's words and video games.

machomuu January 19th, 2015 12:12 PM

[QUOTE=Pinkie-Dawn;8586058]It's because the majority of articles at Kotaku are sensationalist articles w/ click bait titles to tick gamers off.
But considering the content, they could have easily created a more compelling title. Heck, that could be said about a lot of they're articles. It was merely a segue into an interesting section of gaming culture (or, if you take it differently, a culture that has evolved from gaming).

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 8586058)
They're also anti-Gamergate, since one of its employees was involved in the Zoe Quinn scandal.

I'm not seeing how that's relevant to the previous bit, largely considering the former would be a con and I can't not see this as being the same. Being pro-Gamergate isn't exactly something to be proud of- or at least, it's not something you'd want to proclaim.

Sir Codin January 20th, 2015 8:09 PM

Anti-gamergate or not, Kotaku is shit.

So is any site that participated in the whole "Gamers Are Dead" debacle.

Spinosaurus January 21st, 2015 6:24 AM

Can we just not bring up gamer gate at all

Necrum January 21st, 2015 8:46 AM

How can gamers be dead if there's so many good games coming out?

Also apparently Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath was ported to mobile and is on sale right now!
https://itunes.apple.com/app/id923555295?mt=8
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oddworld.Stranger

Satoshi Ookami January 21st, 2015 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Spinosaurus (Post 8588399)
Can we just not bring up gamer gate at all

It's a bit hard to not bring up probably the most important games-related thing from 2014...

Spinosaurus January 21st, 2015 10:30 AM

We've avoided mentioning the shitfest that is gamer gate up until now

Let's go back to ignoring their asses.

Nah January 21st, 2015 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Necrum (Post 8588551)
How can gamers be dead if there's so many good games coming out?

How can gamers be dead when we're all still here? Or are we all ghosts or something?

Hopefully no one minds but could someone explain to me what this Gamergate thing is and why it's a big deal? I've heard of it yes, some shit about some woman banging a reviewer to get a higher review score on her game and some vague shit about ethics in gaming journalism is all I know.

machomuu January 21st, 2015 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Spinosaurus (Post 8588399)
Can we just not bring up gamer gate at all

It wasn't really my intention to bring them up.

Not that it matters. Gamer Gate isn't exactly relevant anymore. They're a very mid-2014 issue and...that's it. They weren't even relevant by the later part of last year.

Spinosaurus January 21st, 2015 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Zekrom (Post 8588793)
Hopefully no one minds but could someone explain to me what this Gamergate thing is and why it's a big deal? I've heard of it yes, some shit about some woman banging a reviewer to get a higher review score on her game and some vague shit about ethics in gaming journalism is all I know.

If you managed to be in the dark about it for this long then you should just keep it that way. It's not worth it.
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Originally Posted by machomuu (Post 8588833)
It wasn't really my intention to bring them up.

Not that it matters. Gamer Gate isn't exactly relevant anymore. They're a very mid-2014 issue and...that's it. They weren't even relevant by the later part of last year.

That wasn't really directed at you. Unfortunately though, they're still very much relevant, but that's a whole other subject.

Sir Codin January 21st, 2015 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Zekrom (Post 8588793)
Hopefully no one minds but could someone explain to me what this Gamergate thing is and why it's a big deal? I've heard of it yes, some shit about some woman banging a reviewer to get a higher review score on her game and some vague shit about ethics in gaming journalism is all I know.

Long story short, GG claims to be fighting for more accountability and integrity within video game journalism and for journalist sites to not have special interests or political ideologies color their articles.

Anti-GG believes the entire GG movement is about harassment of women in the video games industry and keeping games "sexist."

Both sides accuse the other of all sorts of shady shit, though GG believes that a third party is stirring shit up behind the scenes (their biggest suspected source of the worst trolls in the conflict is Something Awful). It's a big fucking mess, really. My opinion? It wouldn't have blown up the way it did if it wasn't for numerous journal sites posting "Gamers Are Dead" articles all in the same goddamn day. Which is why I think all the sites that posted those articles are shit.

Alexander Nicholi January 21st, 2015 1:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CarcharOdin (Post 8588858)
Long story short, GG claims to be fighting for more accountability and integrity within video game journalism and for journalist sites to not have special interests or political ideologies color their articles.

Anti-GG believes the entire GG movement is about harassment of women in the video games industry and keeping games "sexist."

Both sides accuse the other of all sorts of shady shit, though GG believes that a third party is stirring shit up behind the scenes (their biggest suspected source of the worst trolls in the conflict is Something Awful). It's a big fucking mess, really. My opinion? It wouldn't have blown up the way it did if it wasn't for numerous journal sites posting "Gamers Are Dead" articles all in the same goddamn day. Which is why I think all the sites that posted those articles are shit.

When I imagine GamerGate, I see a big giant gate flooding with bullshit and ugly people sex and Anita Sarkeesian

Besides accountability with the press, I honestly didn't give a single fuck. Who cares o.o

Pinkie-Dawn January 22nd, 2015 8:28 AM

Daigonite was right, perhaps we aren't mature enough to fully discuss Gamergate in the first place, nor would it warrant a thread of its own here. Mind if we suggest to go back to a previous game topic or a new one altogether?

Nah January 22nd, 2015 9:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 8589827)
Daigonite was right, perhaps we aren't mature enough to fully discuss Gamergate in the first place, nor would it warrant a thread of its own here. Mind if we suggest to go back to a previous game topic or a new one altogether?

Oh, I didn't really want a discussion about it anyway. CharChar's post was all I needed.

Uh, new topic.....

k I got nothing

Necrum January 22nd, 2015 10:01 AM

I saw a tweet today about how YT Gamers killed traditional gaming journalism. lol, it's not that, it's evolution! We are in the age of the internet for crying out loud! If anything those traditional media are killing themselves.

Pinkie-Dawn January 22nd, 2015 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Necrum (Post 8589925)
I saw a tweet today about how YT Gamers killed traditional gaming journalism. lol, it's not that, it's evolution! We are in the age of the internet for crying out loud! If anything those traditional media are killing themselves.

I remember South Park tackling on this issue, with PewDiePie as a special guest, and they really handled it well.

Necrum January 22nd, 2015 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 8589961)
I remember South Park tackling on this issue, with PewDiePie as a special guest, and they really handled it well.

I'm kinda scared to watch the episode because I know South Park and I watch a TON of Let's Play videos, lol

Alexander Nicholi January 22nd, 2015 12:26 PM

MunchingOrange was and still is my favourite LPer ever. Back in 2009 I watched his playthrough of Pokémon Brown which got me into both popular YouTube and ROM hacking all those years ago. And he's still going strong, I still love his let's plays even now. :D

Sir Codin January 22nd, 2015 3:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 8589961)
I remember South Park tackling on this issue, with PewDiePie as a special guest, and they really handled it well.

Surprisingly I watched every episode of the latest season except that one.

Don't know why. Probably laziness.

Satoshi Ookami January 23rd, 2015 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Necrum (Post 8589925)
I saw a tweet today about how YT Gamers killed traditional gaming journalism. lol, it's not that, it's evolution! We are in the age of the internet for crying out loud! If anything those traditional media are killing themselves.

I'm not watching LPs at all but I agree with you.
In this age, YT is absolutely essential to modern gaming.

Bay January 23rd, 2015 5:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Necrum (Post 8590019)
I'm kinda scared to watch the episode because I know South Park and I watch a TON of Let's Play videos, lol

I managed to watch that particular episode (it's a two part episode actually), and I also thought concerning PewDiePie the show handled him well even though I never watched a LP of his. The show more or less showed LPs in a positive light (and Cartman being himself :P ). I tend to watch a lot of LPs myself, haha.

El Héroe Oscuro January 24th, 2015 1:03 AM

There's a lot of speculation going on right now that Borderlands 3 will be unveiled by Gearbox at PAX South this year: please, please, please don't disappoint me, Gearbox. If it is true though, it would make sense considering the release of Borderlands: The Handsome Jack Edition would build up hype for the threequel.

Alexander Nicholi January 24th, 2015 2:10 AM

Mmm, Half Life 3…

I loved playing Halo back in the day. It was my shit, kill all them aliens. And with what I termed as a kid the “red plasma rifle”, or Brute rifle as it was properly termed.

TRIFORCE89 January 24th, 2015 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Necrum (Post 8589925)
I saw a tweet today about how YT Gamers killed traditional gaming journalism. lol, it's not that, it's evolution! We are in the age of the internet for crying out loud! If anything those traditional media are killing themselves.

I don't consider the overacting attention seekers on YouTube and twitch as journalists by any stretch of the definition.

They're just media personalities (and I find the majority of their personalities annoying and unwatchable).

Pinkie-Dawn January 24th, 2015 6:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TRIFORCE89 (Post 8592187)
I don't consider the overacting attention seekers on YouTube and twitch as journalists by any stretch of the definition.

They're just media personalities (and I find the majority of their personalities annoying and unwatchable).

At least the Youtubers are more honest and experienced in the gaming than the professional journalists, or else all the backlash towards hyped games wouldn't be as loud and common on the internet than it is now.

Morkula January 24th, 2015 6:57 PM

There are a lot of YouTubers who accept paid offers from publishers though. It's no bastion of honesty and integrity.
And of course you think YouTubers are annoying attention-seekers, Triffy. :P

TRIFORCE89 January 24th, 2015 7:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Morkula (Post 8592718)
And of course you think YouTubers are annoying attention-seekers, Triffy. :P

lol I know. Although, a friend of mine has expressed interest in having me start up a show with her. If that happens one day, I'll have to eat my words I suppose.

Then they'll all be attention-seekers, but me. Obviously. :P

Pinkie-Dawn January 24th, 2015 7:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Morkula (Post 8592718)
There are a lot of YouTubers who accept paid offers from publishers though. It's no bastion of honesty and integrity.

Most of the youtubers I've watched do rant videos and game reviews during the late 2000's, and they make more honest opinions than the professionals. An example is a youtuber named RandomDCE, whose negative review on SSBB, based on hype alone, split the Smash fanbase on whether or not his complaints on the single-player modes and the roster are justified. He and his other youtube friends weren't paid by companies to review their games.

Sir Codin January 25th, 2015 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 8592780)
Most of the youtubers I've watched do rant videos and game reviews during the late 2000's, and they make more honest opinions than the professionals. An example is a youtuber named RandomDCE, whose negative review on SSBB, based on hype alone, split the Smash fanbase on whether or not his complaints on the single-player modes and the roster are justified. He and his other youtube friends weren't paid by companies to review their games.

Oh, god, RandomDCE. I remember 2008. That guy was such a hipster cunt, not to mention being even worse than Yahtzee.

Dustmop January 25th, 2015 1:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TRIFORCE89 (Post 8592187)
I don't consider the overacting attention seekers on YouTube and twitch as journalists by any stretch of the definition.

They're just media personalities (and I find the majority of their personalities annoying and unwatchable).

^ Have to agree with this.

I dunno if I'm getting old or if watching too much retsupurae "spoiled me" in terms of LPs and reviews and whatever else gaming-related on youtube/twitch..

But seriously, most of them just aren't as funny or entertaining to watch as they (or their ridiculously large fanbases) think they are. Whether it's that 2-minute-long intro at the beginning of every video, or those weird editing "tricks" they seem to think looks good (like constantly cutting to what looks like 10 seconds later), or obnoxiously loud screaming when they're "startled" by a running leaf (when is this "scare-cam" fad going to die??)..
There's always something about nearly every single "mainstream" LPer or reviewer just makes me irrationally angry.

Pinkie-Dawn January 25th, 2015 10:52 AM

The only Lets Players I watch are Markiplier, Yammimash, and SomeOrdinaryGamers, as their lets plays on indie games are quite short.


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Originally Posted by CarcharOdin (Post 8593083)
Oh, god, RandomDCE. I remember 2008. That guy was such a hipster cunt, not to mention being even worse than Yahtzee.

He even mentioned how his haters accused him of being more of a Yahtzee rip-off than an AVGN rip-off.

Necrum January 25th, 2015 1:49 PM

Oh my god, too many Zombie games are being made, what even. Stop over saturating the market developers, it'll become like the military shooter at this rate!

Megan January 25th, 2015 3:28 PM

I'm kinda reminded of that one time when I decided to watch a video made by Pewdiepie. After the beginning I had to turn the video off, because it was just so stupid. For the most part I'd rather watch LPers who are more serious in what they do...

Dustmop January 25th, 2015 6:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Necrum (Post 8593875)
Oh my god, too many Zombie games are being made, what even. Stop over saturating the market developers, it'll become like the military shooter at this rate!

I thought they already were? :v
Completely serious, I thought that market was shot to hell years ago.

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Originally Posted by R.F. (Post 8593990)
I'm kinda reminded of that one time when I decided to watch a video made by Pewdiepie. After the beginning I had to turn the video off, because it was just so stupid. For the most part I'd rather watch LPers who are more serious in what they do...

Amen.

It's entirely possible to be entertaining and informative at the same time, without overdoing either one to the point of being obnoxious or boring, respectively.

Necrum January 25th, 2015 8:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sgt.Dustmop (Post 8594147)
I thought they already were? :v
Completely serious, I thought that market was shot to hell years ago.

Nah, they're not as bad as Military Shooter JUST yet, but they're getting pretty close and at this rate we'll burn everyone out to them. It feels like I can't get on Steam without seeing an update about a new Zombie game.

Pinkie-Dawn January 25th, 2015 8:30 PM

I think both Extra Credits and the Game Overthinker explained why zombies in video games are all the rage now. Because 1) nobody's afraid of monsters such as xenomorphs anymore, 2) the developers can get away with killing people in games without having them being human, and 3) they're more likely to happen in real life than other end of the world scenarios.

TRIFORCE89 January 25th, 2015 8:38 PM

And because the Walking Dead is popular, and those genre offshoots as well.

Just the thing at the moment

Klippy January 25th, 2015 8:43 PM

It's no different than the "World War II" genre that has now lived-and-died, as well as the "band" game phenom. It's just the way culture and society works.

Sonata January 25th, 2015 8:46 PM

Video games needs more demonic overlords who control the zombies and xenomorphs and other scary things.

Pinkie-Dawn January 25th, 2015 8:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Klippy (Post 8594261)
It's no different than the "World War II" genre that has now lived-and-died, as well as the "band" game phenom. It's just the way culture and society works.

I'm surprised Pokémon is still alive despite being a fad before dying off in the early 2000's, resulting in Game Freak struggling to get the recent games reaching sales of the first two gens.

Megan January 26th, 2015 2:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Klippy (Post 8594261)
It's no different than the "World War II" genre that has now lived-and-died, as well as the "band" game phenom. It's just the way culture and society works.

Or the revival of Hardcore Platforming games. I mean I really like to play hard platformers, but it seems like a lot of them are only designed to make the players die a lot. Just because they are hard, doesn't mean you shouldn't have fun playing them, right?
Fortunately there are always exceptions of the rules, like Super Meat Boy and Shovel Knight (which I still need to get my hands on a copy).

Morkula January 26th, 2015 3:58 PM

I never understood why people love hardcore platformers so much. Games that are hard just for the sake of being difficult don't really do much for me - if anything, they're just frustrating, and I'm not having fun when I'm frustrated.

There are some legitimately difficult games that I've enjoyed. Just recently I've beaten DKC Tropical Freeze and Shovel Knight, and neither of those games are easy to say the least. But I didn't particularly find their difficulty frustrating, whereas with something like Super Meat Boy I could see myself snapping my controller in half within five minutes. When you realize that you died because of your own screwup, rather than because the game wants you to die, it's much more rewarding and less frustrating.

Sir Codin January 26th, 2015 9:06 PM

The reason some people prefer games to be hard is because of the euphoric sense of satisfaction you get when you actually get ahead in the game.

Took me uber amounts of tries to beat those two Gargoyles at the Bell Tower on top of the Undead Burg in Dark Souls and when I finally did, I was so happy I cried.

Sometimes being hard for the sake of being hard is the entire selling point of the game and can be uber amounts of fun when playing it. Otherwise, I Wanna Be The Guy would not have been so popular.

Mark Kamill January 27th, 2015 4:26 AM

Difficulty on the level of Champion Road in SMG2 and the Champion Level in SM3DW is about as hard as it can get for me. I can do the DKCR games, but its gonna take a while. I just don't have the patience to dedicate any time to perfecting the controls anymore.

Sir Codin January 28th, 2015 1:51 AM

So, after much deliberation and having a case of morbid curiosity, I just purchased Daikatana.

John Romero has just made me his bitch.

Necrum January 28th, 2015 8:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Morkula (Post 8595256)
I never understood why people love hardcore platformers so much. Games that are hard just for the sake of being difficult don't really do much for me - if anything, they're just frustrating, and I'm not having fun when I'm frustrated.

There are some legitimately difficult games that I've enjoyed. Just recently I've beaten DKC Tropical Freeze and Shovel Knight, and neither of those games are easy to say the least. But I didn't particularly find their difficulty frustrating, whereas with something like Super Meat Boy I could see myself snapping my controller in half within five minutes. When you realize that you died because of your own screwup, rather than because the game wants you to die, it's much more rewarding and less frustrating.

I think that Super Meat Boy is at least fair with its difficulty. If you fail you concede that it was your fault because you know that it's possible. It's the Rage Platformers that are REALLY bad.

Anyway, I just watched the trailer for Life Is Strange, and I have goosebumps. It looks amazing!

El Héroe Oscuro January 28th, 2015 8:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morkula (Post 8595256)
I never understood why people love hardcore platformers so much. Games that are hard just for the sake of being difficult don't really do much for me - if anything, they're just frustrating, and I'm not having fun when I'm frustrated.

There are some legitimately difficult games that I've enjoyed. Just recently I've beaten DKC Tropical Freeze and Shovel Knight, and neither of those games are easy to say the least. But I didn't particularly find their difficulty frustrating, whereas with something like Super Meat Boy I could see myself snapping my controller in half within five minutes. When you realize that you died because of your own screwup, rather than because the game wants you to die, it's much more rewarding and less frustrating.

You thought Shovel Knight was hard? I actually found it fairly easy.

A case could be made though that Super Meat Boy was rewarding in it's gameplay. Yes, the difficulty of the game was excruciatingly high, but don't tell me that you didn't feel a sense of accomplishment whenever you completed a level. When a round was complete, a replay was shone of all of your attempts, and you could slowly but surely see the progression you made in your bout against the game. I believe that a game can be both frustrating and rewarding, and in the case of Super Meat Boy specifically, that game was able to balance the two.

Although I will admit, a level such as this in Super Meat Boy was a real bastard to beat.

Razer302 January 29th, 2015 1:38 PM

I am on the last level in super meat boy and it is driving me insane. I want to complete it so bad. I like feeling I achieved something when I complete it tho.

Kyoe January 29th, 2015 5:25 PM

Hey, do many of you have a ps vita? I'm considering getting one, and want some opinions!

Sonata January 29th, 2015 8:25 PM

I have a vita. It is a magnificent little handheld. I'm pretty clumsy and end up dropping mine a lot and it's pretty darn sturdy.

Satoshi Ookami January 30th, 2015 1:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyoe (Post 8599373)
Hey, do many of you have a ps vita? I'm considering getting one, and want some opinions!

Here.

Code:

If (you.like(JP games) || you.like(indies))
{
buy = true;
}

else
{
buy = false;
}



Megan January 30th, 2015 1:57 AM

Tbh, I still haven't beaten SMB, but at least I got tho world 5, after beating the boss in Hell just recently. It's funny how a boss can get from challenging to easy after you've found a blindspot that allows you to dodge all his attacks on his final phase, except for the ast headbutt. I'm probably not going for the dark world and the true ending, though. At least for now.

I don't have a Vita, because of money and the lack of games I'm interested in. In general the only Sony console I own is my PSP which I still haven't understood, why I bought it in the first place. At least it lets me play the first two Disgaea games, which I really enjoyed playing, because they are so over the top. {XD}
I'm focusing more on games made for Nintendo handhelds and PC, probably because that's what I was growing up with.

After watching some videos I decided to make another playthrough of Golden Sun: Dark Dawn and now I'm in a spot where I have to consider taking everything back I said about tutorials in Pokemon games. You'd have to put every tutorial that you see in Pokemon games into one big cluster and you'd still not get that amount of unneccessity in terms of tutorials that game offers.
Trying to build up immersion with a ton of text (which GS is known for) and then break this immersion by having a character explain to you how to equip items in the menu while automating the whole process for demonstration purposes, isn't what you'd want to do when trying to set up a world that's full of tons of lore.
There are some other things, too, that could have been avoided, like all the stuff that you could possibly miss because of these points of no return in the game, but all in all it's still a great game, in my opinion. Not neccessarily as good as the other two games, but still great.

machomuu January 30th, 2015 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyoe (Post 8599373)
Hey, do many of you have a ps vita? I'm considering getting one, and want some opinions!

Other than the fact that Sony doesn't care about it and that it doesn't exactly have a growing library anymore, it's nice for what it has, but I'd be quicker to recommend the Playstation TV which is, at the time of posting, on sale for $60, which is much more attractive than the Vita's price tag. Its compatibility could be better, but I'd say it's well worth the price for most anyone.

Razer302 January 30th, 2015 7:26 PM

I personally love my PSVITA. Picked it up on release day morning, Virtues Last Reward is my favourite game on the system but it has some other amazing ones such as, Mulitple Disgaea, UMVC3, Persona 4 Golden, Ragnarok Odyssey (think more arcade style monster hunter but loads of fun)

The pack log is great to, Being able to play both ps1 and PSP games and remasters such as FFX/X-2 and the ratchet and clank and jak trilogy, aswell as god of war are more great things to be able to take portable.

I personally love being able to take things like Disgaea portable, I had disgaea 3 on PS3 but played it only a little as it didn't really fit in with what I liked but as soon as I got it on VITA I spent hours playing it when I had free time.

Dragon January 30th, 2015 7:34 PM

http://mynintendonews.com/2015/01/30/sega-is-cutting-300-jobs-and-is-preparing-for-a-digital-non-console-future/

Looks like Sega is gonna concentrate more on PC and mobile stuff than actual console gaming, whiiich came from Sonic Boom's flop, essentially. o:

Cherrim January 30th, 2015 7:43 PM

I've got a Vita and I absolutely love it. It's a gorgeous system and it works so well. I love the design and I love the features... but I wish it had more games. I have to agree with Satoshi Ookami: if you aren't a fan of JRPGs or indie games, there's not much point to it. But I really love my system and my only regret about owning it is that Sony ignores it so much so it doesn't get the great attention and library it deserves. :(

Razer302 January 30th, 2015 7:51 PM

My biggest lose to my Vita was monster hunter. I looked at the new one on 3DS and it looks like its far worse than it is on even the PSP. MH on Vita would have been amazing. same as PSO2 being released, I love PSO and would have loved to see that get released over in the west but thanks to bad support that never happened, only issue vita ever had was Sony itself.

machomuu January 30th, 2015 7:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragon (Post 8601019)
http://mynintendonews.com/2015/01/30/sega-is-cutting-300-jobs-and-is-preparing-for-a-digital-non-console-future/

Looks like Sega is gonna concentrate more on PC and mobile stuff than actual console gaming, whiiich came from Sonic Boom's flop, essentially. o:

I don't mind too much. Despite the fact that I've read they are supporting "Online PC games" specifically, this does raise the chances of PC ports of Atlus games.

Those lost jobs are a shame, though.

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Originally Posted by Razer302 (Post 8601036)
I looked at the new one on 3DS and it looks like its far worse than it is on even the PSP.

Does it? Because I've played a good deal of MH3U on the 3DS, which plays surprisingly well despite not having a second nub (and adds almost too much- which isn't a bad thing). Got the demo for MH4 as well and it feels and plays great. Plus, there are several Monster Hunter type games on the Vita and yet, other than MH itself, there are none on the 3DS, so I think it's pretty balanced. After all, the Vita has God Eater 2, Soul Sacrifice, Toukiden, and Freedom Wars, among others, so it's not too much of a loss, I'd say.

Razer302 January 30th, 2015 9:16 PM

I only tried Ragnarok on Vita, It was a good game, and tbh the 2nd Ragnarok game they did I got bored with very fast. Hated the changes that they made. I ended up getting the old MH games in the end to make up for how much I wanted a good farming game, on 3DS I personally didn't like the controls. I never tried the add on they made for it though as I only had the demo. I might try it again once the new 3DS is out. Maybe that will make a difference.

Morkula January 30th, 2015 9:23 PM

I love the Vita as a piece of hardware, but it's the biggest waste of money I've ever spent on a system. There are so few good games for it (unless you're into indie games that are available on nearly every single other platform) and the fact Sony has dropped all development support for it and never really gave it that much to begin with, is a huge bummer. It's a shame, because the system had so much potential.

Meanwhile, as a piece of hardware the 3DS sucks horribly but it has an incredible library of games.

machomuu January 30th, 2015 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Morkula (Post 8601116)
(unless you're into indie games that are available on nearly every single other platform)

See, and that's my problem. I hear people say that it's good for indie games and that, if you're into indie games, you'll like them. First off, I never liked the "if you're into indie games" phrasing, it's not even a genre, I don't see how someone can not like indie games because they aren't inherently different than games with publishers- but that's irrelevant.

My point here is that if I was given the chance to buy an indie game which is very likely on several consoles and PC, 99 times out of 100 I'm going to the PC for these games because they're often cheaper, portable to an extent, and available earlier with more forms of play. Really, there's not much that makes the non-exclusive indie scene attractive for the Vita, and certainly not much to put it in front of any other platform.

Satoshi Ookami January 31st, 2015 2:04 AM

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Originally Posted by machomuu (Post 8600366)
Other than the fact that Sony doesn't care about it and that it doesn't exactly have a growing library anymore.

Some people (read me) would object to this.
My backlog of Vita games is pretty much 2 times backlog of PS3+PS4.

machomuu January 31st, 2015 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Satoshi Ookami (Post 8601305)
Some people (read me) would object to this.
My backlog of Vita games is pretty much 2 times backlog of PS3+PS4.

Regardless, I stand by my statement. Reason being, you're certainly in the minority in this. The PS3 certainly has a far larger and more diverse library, and it's a lot easier for pretty much anyone to jump in, pick a game, and have fun. And then, if you wanted more games of that genre, you'd be in luck. Hell, even the PSP, for all the crap it gets, did this better than the Vita did at that point in its life.

And nowadays, few features are added, not many games are on its upcoming lineup (and fewer exclusives), and updates are basically only to combat exploits (that, ironically, are only for PSP mode and wouldn't do much damage to the Vita at all). The only thing Sony actually advertises the Vita (and the PSTV) for is its compatibility with with the PS4. It's really a shame, too, because it is a nice piece of hardware capable of quite a lot.

Kyoe January 31st, 2015 7:19 PM

Thanks, everyone, for the input! I really appreciate it.

I thought they were going to release MHP3rd on the Vita? I played the PSP version, and it was pretty good.

Tbh, though, it's disappointing that it's been abandoned by Sony. I might still get one, since there are a number of games for it that interest me, but with the kind of hardware it has I had hoped it would've done better.

If I do decide to get one, expect me to be hassling many of you to play multiplayer. >x3

@Sega Topic:
Eh, Sega does not have very good business sense. I don't even only mean with this recent scheme, too...

Kyoe January 31st, 2015 7:20 PM

Thanks, everyone, for the input! I really appreciate it.

I thought they were going to release MHP3rd on the Vita? I played the PSP version, and it was pretty good.

Tbh, though, it's disappointing that it's been abandoned by Sony. I might still get one, since there are a number of games for it that interest me, but with the kind of hardware it has I had hoped it would've done better.

If I do decide to get one, expect me to be hassling many of you to play multiplayer. >x3

@Sega Topic:
Eh, Sega does not have very good business sense. I don't even only mean with this recent scheme, too...

Arc January 31st, 2015 8:06 PM

MHP3rd only got released on the PSP and PS3. The only Monster Hunter game on the Vita would be Frontier G. I don't believe there were any sort of plans to release PH3rd for the Vita since MH3G was released around the same time as the Vita was launched in Japan; at that time, they were probably already moving onto 4th Gen.

Sir Codin January 31st, 2015 10:55 PM

Running around Sigil in Planescape: Torment

HARMONIUM OFFICER: "Excuse me, sir? Scarred man? Are you the one locals are reporting is going around the Hive killing every Black Abishai you come across?"

ME: "They give 7000 experience points per kill and I need to level up. Let me have my fun. Also, it's hardly murder or genocide if they're evil."

Kyoe January 31st, 2015 11:26 PM

Ah, Planescape, people always talk about it, yet still I've never played it.

Hi! February 1st, 2015 10:19 AM

What are everyone's thoughts on the Metal Gear Rising 2 tease?

Pinkie-Dawn February 1st, 2015 1:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Hi! (Post 8603080)
What are everyone's thoughts on the Metal Gear Rising 2 tease?

I told my brother about this, and he thinks it's not a teaser to MGR2 and is just coincidental that the font style used for the number 2 is similar to font of the game's title.

Hi! February 1st, 2015 4:46 PM

I'm totally going to believe it's a MGR2 tease.

Sir Codin February 4th, 2015 6:29 AM

You know, I love Planescape: Torment, but....

http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg639/CarcharOdin/rubikonpst.jpg~original

I HATE THIS FUCKING PLACE.

It's called the Rubikon Dungeon Construct, it was made by a bunch of Modrons to experiment with the social aspects of RPG dungeons. This place is entirely optional, but...

If you want to get a secret character into your party, you have to set it to Hard mode and go through the maze....and it's essentially a randomized dungeon maze composed of an area of 64 rooms that all look the same, with 1 to 3 powerful constructs that can kill you dead in seconds if you aren't careful. Add to the fact that there are several dead ends and it's easy to get lost in and you have the most agonizing, tedious, sanity-eroding dungeon in all of RPGdom in an otherwise fantastic game.

Fuck you, Chris Avellone, for thinking this whole thing was even a good idea. It makes me the think that this dungeon was the real reason this game is called "Torment", not it's story themes.

Necrum February 5th, 2015 7:39 AM

I just noticed that FNAF's genre on steam is simulation. The hell is it simulating? Terror!

El Héroe Oscuro February 6th, 2015 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by CarcharOdin (Post 8606236)
You know, I love Planescape: Torment, but....

http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg639/CarcharOdin/rubikonpst.jpg~original

I HATE THIS FUCKING PLACE.

It's called the Rubikon Dungeon Construct, it was made by a bunch of Modrons to experiment with the social aspects of RPG dungeons. This place is entirely optional, but...

If you want to get a secret character into your party, you have to set it to Hard mode and go through the maze....and it's essentially a randomized dungeon maze composed of an area of 64 rooms that all look the same, with 1 to 3 powerful constructs that can kill you dead in seconds if you aren't careful. Add to the fact that there are several dead ends and it's easy to get lost in and you have the most agonizing, tedious, sanity-eroding dungeon in all of RPGdom in an otherwise fantastic game.

Fuck you, Chris Avellone, for thinking this whole thing was even a good idea. It makes me the think that this dungeon was the real reason this game is called "Torment", not it's story themes.

Sounds brutal. Does the game give you enough time for react and escape the room before it kills you?

Sir Codin February 6th, 2015 2:13 PM

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Originally Posted by El Héroe Oscuro (Post 8609022)
Sounds brutal. Does the game give you enough time for react and escape the room before it kills you?

Oh, yeah, the constructs talk to you and you can have the option to lampshade how ridiculous this all is. The constructs sometimes agree with you, then let you know that their programming says to attack you anyway, so they do.

Also, you can just dash to each entrance and avoid fighting, but in my experience, that makes it even harder to navigate the maze because the constructs stay dead in each room unless you reset the maze. So when you come across a room with no constructs in it, it means you've already killed them and that you've been there before.

El Héroe Oscuro February 7th, 2015 2:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CarcharOdin (Post 8609175)
Oh, yeah, the constructs talk to you and you can have the option to lampshade how ridiculous this all is. The constructs sometimes agree with you, then let you know that their programming says to attack you anyway, so they do.

Also, you can just dash to each entrance and avoid fighting, but in my experience, that makes it even harder to navigate the maze because the constructs stay dead in each room unless you reset the maze. So when you come across a room with no constructs in it, it means you've already killed them and that you've been there before.

But if you're dashing and avoiding fighting, as well as not getting hurt by dead constructs, how exactly does that make that harder? I don't quite understand.

Sir Codin February 7th, 2015 2:28 PM

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Originally Posted by El Héroe Oscuro (Post 8610307)
But if you're dashing and avoiding fighting, as well as not getting hurt by dead constructs, how exactly does that make that harder? I don't quite understand.

I said in my previous post it makes the maze harder to navigate.

El Héroe Oscuro February 7th, 2015 2:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CarcharOdin (Post 8610345)
I said in my previous post it makes the maze harder to navigate.

I get that - so it's mainly just that because you're dashing through fast to avoid fighting you have a harder time remembering which rooms you've been in because by the time you process the room you're already dashing through the next one.

Sir Codin February 7th, 2015 2:54 PM

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Originally Posted by El Héroe Oscuro (Post 8610378)
I get that - so it's mainly just that because you're dashing through fast to avoid fighting you have a harder time remembering which rooms you've been in because by the time you process the room you're already dashing through the next one.

Exacto-mundo.

In the end though, I got through it. Beat the game yesterday, so I'm focusing on other things. Interestingly, I just bought Bravely Default, so I think I'll turn my attention to that.

Klippy February 11th, 2015 1:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Team Fail (Post 8615227)
Seems it's really dead in here :c

So I decided to do something totally crazy last night. Since Target is closing, and they are planning to sell fixtures, I put my name in to see if I could get their demo PS4 display for collective purposes. Since I work there, I might be able to pull some strings provided nobody else wants it, and from what I was told, they're planning on simply tossing it because it's locked to the demo games and can't do anything else. Here's hoping!

Nice! That might be interesting. Even if you don't keep it, it'd probably go for a good chunk of cash on eBay. :P

Cerberus87 February 12th, 2015 6:14 PM

Does anyone know a good way of cleaning an Xbox 360 controller? Mine is pretty dirty and I'm thinking about selling it.

Please quote to reply because the thread is huge and I don't check it very often. ;)

Klippy February 12th, 2015 7:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cerberus87 (Post 8616670)
Does anyone know a good way of cleaning an Xbox 360 controller? Mine is pretty dirty and I'm thinking about selling it.

Please quote to reply because the thread is huge and I don't check it very often. ;)

You should be able to just use a cleaner like Lysol or even a warm (damp, not wet) towel and some elbow grease.

Netto Azure February 12th, 2015 9:09 PM

Yesterday, Squeenix's JP Youtube channel kept getting reccomended to me so I kept watching the Bravely Second: End Layer trailers.


Arc February 12th, 2015 9:37 PM

Let's plug one of the other trailers as well. Because it's clear that I have no extreme bias to this particular game.


Necrum February 13th, 2015 8:11 AM

What game should I record for Friday the 13th?

Spinosaurus February 13th, 2015 8:42 AM

THIS is the best trailer of the year so far

And I bet it'll stay that way for the rest of the year. Dat style.


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