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Lord Jaws March 2nd, 2005 6:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Naas02
I really dont have a reason to lie to you if thats what your sayin

I never said anyone lied. It was on a gamefaq at gamfaqs.com.

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Originally Posted by Naas02
p.s. while were on the subject of underused pokemon could somebody please tell me what the use is for the following pokemon

Solrock
Lunatune
Dunspace

thanx

ONLY as UU these are their best uses.

Solrock - Attacker. Breezes over 300 attack comfortabley and gets moves like EQ, Rock Slide and a pretty good Explosion.

Luntone - No Idea. Id say Solrock would hand this guys *** back to him in battle. Probably a defensive version of Sol.

Dunsparce - One word. HAX. :D This guy is one good way to really **** off your opponent. Serence Grace increases the chance that he will add an effect to his attacks. Body Slam them into paralysis (which is usually fairly quickly.), then Headbutt away with your opponent spending most turns paralyzed or flinching.

Lion Heart March 2nd, 2005 7:13 PM

Solrock is a Dragon Dancer nullifier, and Lunatone is the same thing with reversed stats (Attack > Defense, Defense > Attack).

Dunsparce is just there for Serene Grace.

Naas02 March 2nd, 2005 7:22 PM

hmmmmmmm *considers using dunsparce*

Lion Heart March 2nd, 2005 7:23 PM

He isn't that great.

He's actually pathetic to use.

But fun.

Lord Jaws March 2nd, 2005 7:29 PM

Especially when you play a n00b and they go "YOU HAX IM NEVER PLAYING NETBATTLE AGAIN >:(" :D And I take it Solrock is a DD nullifier due to Rock > HP Flying and Levitate > EQ?

Naas02 March 2nd, 2005 7:30 PM

okay so how do yall feel about this

Ninjask @ leftovers
ability: speed boost
-baton pass
-ariel ace
-silver wind
-substitute

passes to


Dunsparce @ leftovers
ability:serene grace
-headbutt
-body slam
-shadow ball/ancient power
-ice beam

I think Im goin nuts cuz I never noticed Dunsparce's ability can be Serene Grace lol, see if it can get those boost from ancient power after you paralyze/flinch your opponenet then it might actually be useful :D

Lord Jaws March 2nd, 2005 8:35 PM

Well any Ninjask with Sub/Baton Pass/AA or SW (most ppl have Swords Dance or Protect as their 4th move) isnt original. But Dunsparce should really stick to one type of attack (physical or special) as his stats are not that high to begin with. Ice Beam may freeze but if youre paralyzing already you might have conflicts. Go Shadow Ball over IB and then keep AP.

Lion Heart March 2nd, 2005 8:36 PM

Baton Pass some Swords Dances if you want to try something like that.

And yes Jaws that is why he nullifies them.

Naas02 March 3rd, 2005 9:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Jaws1
Well any Ninjask with Sub/Baton Pass/AA or SW (most ppl have Swords Dance or Protect as their 4th move) isnt original. But Dunsparce should really stick to one type of attack (physical or special) as his stats are not that high to begin with. Ice Beam may freeze but if youre paralyzing already you might have conflicts. Go Shadow Ball over IB and then keep AP.

thanks :)

Im workin on some more now

MeLoVeGhOsTs March 3rd, 2005 10:40 AM

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Luntone - No Idea. Id say Solrock would hand this guys *** back to him in battle. Probably a defensive version of Sol.
Oh noes! *dies*

Lunatone is one hell of a sweeper.

@Lefties
~ Calm mind
~ Psychic
~ Icebeam
~ Lightscreen / Hypnosis / HP: Electric

Pwn j00.

Naas02 March 3rd, 2005 11:17 AM

Yah Ima go test that one out right now it looks good, but doesnt Alakazam do kinda the same thing?

What about this for Mawile

http://www.smogon.com/rs/sprites/330.png
Mawile @ leftovers
ability: intimidate

-counter
-taunt
-swords dance
-return


I figured you could use swords dance once or twice then taunt to draw out a physical attack to counter and return on special attackers, Mawile's got some good defense but this would fall easily to any random fire type pokemon :( this might work well on seismic tossing Blisseys what do yall think?

husk1442 March 3rd, 2005 12:05 PM

The above Mawile is dead to Ghosts

Two Electrode sets:

[email protected] petaya
~T-Bolt
~Sub
~Mirror Coat
~HP: Ice

Send electrode out against something that is going to stay in and use a special Atk
Use mirror Coat and then using your amazing speed to atk first and finish them off.
The idea of attacking twice in a row is fun.

[email protected] Leichi/Petaya
~T-Bolt
~Sub
~Screech
~Explosion

The idea is to sub against something that isn't goint to stay in against you. Then screech while the opponent breaks your sub and then sub down for the berry boost and explode/T-bolt against them.

Screech is obviously there just to boost your normally, weak as hell, explosion.

Wigglytuff

[email protected] Lefties
~Light Screen
~Counter
~Protect
~Wish

This thing has a massive amount of HP. Use light screen to lower SpAtk damage so that people will prefer to use physical Atks on you. Then counter, wish, protect.
Almost guaranteed to take out one of your opponents pokes.

Naas02 March 3rd, 2005 3:54 PM

hey what up! I just saw you lol nice movesets too when I use Wiggly i usually make it a special sweeper

husk1442 March 3rd, 2005 3:56 PM

this is for unique movesets not the usual

Lion Heart March 3rd, 2005 3:58 PM

Nice Wiggly set Husk, I can see it working, as you'd get a Wish in when they switch or Recover from the Counter.

I can see people are actually thinking about techniques now, which is great.

I just made an Arcanine set which could potentially work...

Arcanine @ Leftovers
-Crunch
-Flamethrower
-Extremespeed
-Roar

With some Sp.Atk EV's, you'd be amazed at how much arse he takes out when he attacks, I know his Attack is higher than his Sp.Atk, but he has more variety in his Sp.Atk movepool.

Fire + Dark might not be the greatest combination of typed attacks, I can see it losing to Poliwrath (Don't leave him in..).
Extremespeed is for getting rid of those Subrevvers, even though Tar can do it, ES can ruin the pattern of HP before they can sub - It can even kill somethings when they are about to do the last Sub.
Roar is to get rid of anything trying to setup, leading with this guy isn't a bad idea.

~Vote Lion Heart For President~

Naas02 March 3rd, 2005 10:46 PM

How about Beedrill?
http://soara.fc2web.com/img_icon/i_supiaa.gif
[email protected] berry
ability:swarm
personality: Admant
+atk, -spatk
-swords dance
-aerial ace
-hp bug
-sludge bomb

generally you dont want to let this little buggy go heads up with pokemon that have high defense probably that only pokemon it'll be good against are those that are weak to poison or bug attacks. Pretty much no matter what you do unless your opponent hits you with a razor leaf or somethin after the first time you get hit your gonna end up below half hp, so if your faster you can swords dance the fisrt turn then hit'em hard the second turn with the added salac berry boost. Really with Beedrill I would just try and not keep it out there long at all and carefully chose the times its sent in. fire,rock,and ghost all rape bedrill in horrible ways lol

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Originally Posted by husk1442
The above Mawile is dead to Ghosts

Two Electrode sets:

[email protected] petaya
~T-Bolt
~Sub
~Mirror Coat
~HP: Ice

Send electrode out against something that is going to stay in and use a special Atk
Use mirror Coat and then using your amazing speed to atk first and finish them off.
The idea of attacking twice in a row is fun.

The only thing I can think of that would stay in and special attack would be a Ghost or psychic, seeing how grass attacks wont do much water is an automatic swith out (except swampert and maybe blastoise but all Swamperts sport earthquakes and most Blastoises do to or have mirror coat themslves and sometimes Ive seen people leave suicunes out against electrics), electric wont do much, and all the main fire types people use pack earthquake. Even with the psychics its most likely a Kazam and electrode wont survive 2 psychics from Kazam......unless you jacked his special def. up

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Originally Posted by husk1442
The above Mawile is dead to Ghosts

well, its not designed to sweep so I dont know why you would leave it in against a ghost or why you would leave Mawile against any ghost type or fire type, but I guess you could switch out taunt for bite, and put hp steel for return, but meh I was thinking more along the terms of an UU Blissy killer and it wouldnt stand a chance without taunt/counter


p.s. husk liked this Raichu moveset and suggested I put it here

http://soara.fc2web.com/img_icon/i_raicyuu.gif
Raichu @ Salac Berry
-thunderbolt
-hp water
-substitute
-reversal

weaken yourself down with substitue then unleash with the salac berry boosted reversal and hp water IF you need to this can keep Blisseys in check.

Sin March 4th, 2005 4:34 AM

for bp smeargle shouldnt ingrain>sub?

husk1442 March 4th, 2005 11:50 AM

naah

I think Naas saw it in action the other day

Sub+Belly Drum= Salac activates

so you pass +6 atk and +1 speed to something. You will probably OHKO most thing so roar is only a problem b4 you bp


[email protected] Soft Sand **Maggyslayer
Evs:38 HP/180 Atk/ 96 Def/172 Spd/24 SpDef
Jolly(+Spd,-SpAtk)
~HP: Ground
~Taunt
~Spikes
~Whirlwind

Standard meta-game breaking skarm
Ohko's Maggy 100% of the time with HP: ground


______________________________________________________________

[email protected] Lefties
~C-Ray
~Attract
~WoW
~ Fire Blast

With your 100 base SpDef you should be able to take some special Atks.

So send this thing out against a special Atk'er and then C-ray it or whatever switches in. Attract since you have chance of being faster than them and then WoW. Then fire blast for damage and C-Ray every 2 or 3 turns. Stalls pretty well but, if something hits 2-3 times through parattraction with a physical Atk you can say good bye to Nine tales

Lion Heart March 4th, 2005 8:27 PM

The HP Ground trick has been around for a while - Very handy indeed.

Thanks for the good response to my Electrode - I get told everything I make SUCKS.

I don't think Ninetales would be able to stall too well - It can try to Burn and Roar everything though, and leave the entire team weaker with a constant depletion of health.

Something like:

Ninetales @ Leftovers
-Will-O-Wisp
-Roar
-Confuse Ray
-Substitute/Fire Blast

kirby00 March 4th, 2005 9:03 PM

vileplume:@ salac- sleep powder, sdance, flail, sludge bomb/sunny day/endure

Lion Heart March 4th, 2005 9:23 PM

I can see the point in it, but I don't think it'd work out to well, as it needs 5 moveslots.

Maybe.. Flail/Endure/Sunny Day/Swords Dance?

Spike Razzor March 4th, 2005 9:30 PM

This combo is extremly hard to pull off and doesn't work well against certain Pokemon. But its sure as hell fun when it does tank stuff.

Ninjask (M) @ Liechi Berry
Trait: Speed Boost
EVs: 8 HP / 250 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Baton Pass
- Substitute
- Swords Dance

Pass to:

Beedrill (M) @ Salac Berry
Trait: Swarm
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 SDef
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Endeavor
- Substitute
- Swords Dance/HP Bug/Ground
- Twineedle

Lion Heart March 4th, 2005 9:44 PM

What do you do with the Beedrill once it has the stats passed?

I made a Beedrill set not long ago, its was Swords Dance/HP Bug/Endure or Sub/Sludge Bomb I think.

Ruined by alot of pokemon, but Beedrill is kind of fun to use..

Sin March 4th, 2005 10:16 PM

Jumpluff (M) @ Scope Lens
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Sleep Powder
- Swords Dance
- Hidden Power [Anything]
- Aerial Ace

AA for stab and Hp (anything u desire).sleep powder as u'll most likely go first.swords dance on the switch and sweep.too bad jumpluff has a gay atk.

Lion Heart March 4th, 2005 10:24 PM

I know, or it could pull it off pretty well.

I currently have this on my UU team:

Jumpluff @ Leftovers
-Sleep Powder
-Substitute
-Leech Seed
-HP Grass

Seems to work, except.. something is wrong with it :(


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