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zygardian harbinger February 21st, 2014 1:41 PM

Team Help (Again)
 
Hello, it's zygardian again. I've been so busy lately, I haven't had time for the forum or team improvement, I apologize for those requiring help. Anyway, I need a bit of help myself. I've finally progressed my team quite a ways. I'm not entirely concerned about natures here, but I need the last two slots of my team filled, and I'm having a bit of trouble with that. Keep in mind here that this is mainly for Double Battling. Here it is:

Bronzong: Dual-Screen Lead. Took a while to get:
Ability: Heatproof
Item: Iron Ball
EVs: 252 Sp. Def., 252 Def., 4 HP
Reflect
Light Screen
Confuse Ray
Gyro Ball

Mega Charizard Y: Huge Special lead. My pride and joy:
Ability: Blaze
Item: Charizardite Y
EVs: 252 Sp. Atk., 252 Speed, 4 Def.
Roost
Air Slash
Solar Beam
Heat Wave

Garchomp: Physical Attacker. Also, while Charizard or Noivern are out, I can use Earthquake without worrying:
Ability: Sand Veil
Item: Assault Vest
EVs: 252 Atk., 252 Speed, 4 HP
Dragon Claw
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Poison Jab

Noivern: Good Special. Especially with Hurricane. Also benefits from Sun with MegaZard Y's Drought:
Ability: Infiltrator
Item: Life Orb
EVs: 252 Sp. Atk., 252 Speed, 4 Def.
Roost
Hurricane
Dragon Pulse
Flamethrower

I know movesets probably need work, and a good counter to Fairy-types. I was also thinking about adding one of the Swords of Justice to my team- that's Cobalion, Virizion, Terrakion, and Keldeo, for those who didn't know. I want to compose the team of completely legal Pokemon in order to be able to enter events and such. Any and all criticism is welcome. Thanks to you all in advance.

PlatinumDude February 21st, 2014 11:22 PM

I wouldn't recommend Bronzong as a dual screener. Klefki and Espeon do it better because of Prankster and Magic Bounce, respectively:

Klefki:
-Reflect
-Light Screen
-Spikes
-Dazzling Gleam/Foul Play
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP/152 Def/104 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Prankster

Espeon:
-Reflect
-Light Screen
-Psychic/Psyshock
-Hidden Power (Fire)/Dazzling Gleam/Baton Pass
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Light Clay
Ability: Magic Bounce

Air Slash isn't worth using on Charizard Y; Fire Blast hits the targets it would normally cover harder:
-Heat Wave
-Solar Beam
-Focus Blast/Dragon Pulse
-Protect
Nature: Mild/Hasty/Modest/Timid
EVs: 4 Atk/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Charizardite Y

There's no need for Garchomp to use Poison Jab or Iron Head, as Fairies are already hit hard enough by Earthquake:
-Earthquake
-Dragon Claw
-Rock Slide
-Protect
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Yache Berry/Lum Berry

In a doubles environment, times you can use Roost freely are rare. Noivern is best off all-out attacking:
-Dragon Pulse
-Flamethrower
-Focus Blast/Hurricane
-Protect
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Yache Berry/Lum Berry/Focus Sash
Ability: Infiltrator/Frisk

Nah February 22nd, 2014 6:27 AM

Like Platinum said, Espeon and Klekfi are better dual screeners. If you are adamant about useing Bronzong, give it Leftovers instead of Iron Ball. It's so damn slow that Gyro Ball hits hard enough without it, Bronzong would like the recovery, and its main role is support, not attacking.

Hurricane is less accurate in the Sun.

If you need something anti-Fairy, Scizor does that pretty well:

-Scizor w/Leftovers
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 HP, 40 Attack, 220 Sp.Defense
Moves: Bullet Punch, Swords Dance, Roost, Superpower/Brick Break

or

-Scizor w/Life orb
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 attack, 252 Speed, 4 Sp.Defense
Moves: Swords Dance, Bullet Punch, Bug Bite/X-Scissor, Brick Break/Superpower

I guess you could use one of the Musketeers if you want. Though the only ones worth using in OU are Terrakion and Keldeo, iirc.

zygardian harbinger February 22nd, 2014 9:27 PM

So, I should run Klefki over Bronzong, replace Roost on Charizard and Noivern with Protect, eliminate Air Slash, eliminate Poison Jab. Wouldn't it be better to run Stone Edge over Rock Slide, regardless of the accuracy difference? And to balance the team's type matchups, I would use Keldeo or Virizion over Terrakion... and Scizor is a very good choice, too. It's good overall, with the matchup Steel and Bug, its only weakness is Fire, but the weakness is x4. Also, in Doubles, switching out doesn't occur very often, so I would rather put a Status over Spikes on Klefki. Thanks for the help, you two, you guys are amazing.
Quote:

Originally Posted by PlatinumDude
Air Slash isn't worth using on Charizard Y; Fire Blast hits the targets it would normally cover harder:

Did you mean Fire Blast or Focus Blast?

PlatinumDude February 22nd, 2014 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zygardian harbinger (Post 8110069)
So, I should run Klefki over Bronzong, replace Roost on Charizard and Noivern with Protect, eliminate Air Slash, eliminate Poison Jab. Wouldn't it be better to run Stone Edge over Rock Slide, regardless of the accuracy difference? And to balance the team's type matchups, I would use Keldeo or Virizion over Terrakion... and Scizor is a very good choice, too. It's good overall, with the matchup Steel and Bug, its only weakness is Fire, but the weakness is x4. Also, in Doubles, switching out doesn't occur very often, so I would rather put a Status over Spikes on Klefki. Thanks for the help, you two, you guys are amazing.
Did you mean Fire Blast or Focus Blast?

Fire Blast. Air Slash covers the same types that Fire Blast would (Grass, Flying). Fire Blast hits Fighting Pokemon harder than Air Slash would.

Nah February 23rd, 2014 4:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zygardian harbinger (Post 8110069)
Wouldn't it be better to run Stone Edge over Rock Slide, regardless of the accuracy difference?

You want Rock Slide since you're doing Doubles. Rock Slide hits both opposing Pokes, and you don't have to worry about hitting your own guys like you do with Earthquake or Surf.

zygardian harbinger February 23rd, 2014 2:09 PM

Ah, I see. That makes sense, thank you both. :)

Charizardlvl.98 February 23rd, 2014 6:28 PM

You have a decent team. However, a mamoswine completely counters this set up. A kelfki would run better due to its Prankster ability, as Espeon is (in my extended opinion after running one for so long) a better baton passer than a screener.

I would suggest NOT using two dragons, or two flying types for that matter. Rock, Fairy, and Ice Types are going to pose a huge threat. Not to mention, anything with rock slide that can bulk a single hit from Charizard (namely Mega-Tyranitar and mamoswine) will demolish your team. Tyranitar itself will pose a serious threat, and that's just one pokemon.


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