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Fading Tree March 3rd, 2014 3:10 PM

Pokemon U
 


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Pokemon U is a community project. To update all the Pokemon we love. GameFreak has done a wonderful job, by upgrading the pokedex found in Pokemon XY, the 6th generation of Pokèmon games. They have enhanced each Pokemon, by changing stats, abilities, and types. Pokemon U plans to further those changes, but implementing changes to ALL- if not most of the final stage evolved Pokèmon.We are not afraid to make changes to your favorite Pokèmon, new abilities, changed abilities, new moves, enhanced learnsets, and mega evolutions. When we are finished, a Pokémon Showdown server will be created, applying our changes. Anybody can join, if you have a burning request or tell us how we did, comment on this thread. We plan on giving the best pokéxperience possible.
TL;DR
  • We're furthering the work started in XY
  • This is a community project (everybody can join)
  • Increased Stats, Different Abilities, New Mega Evolutions
List of Pokemon we got to so far, and still editing

Upgrades Made

Spoiler:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/LEdxJ43R_OIrhjxgENRDPMMbMmYB8jpn1--8M6uwA7ahQQ_LnL7QnTZvxCMLLPSj97Mk0bLJv0otTE5lCdqjT6UNREa_wVh4YsHcf27AS4TkCs3FPwGNte1Yk391Fw
BUTTERFREE
Typing: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/x9k5QUYa-M4xcfY8SX4M2UTWS9u48f9dl_fiJyiB3VTL5l8E-ITUDkf-g4URsGsVKFQH1B5XyRWyX_s3BoRKDXtCkXqMe5YzBAZogwnEoypSFCcKNvgP2IXpZeeSUw https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/bsMtIkvtSsQ79RP6KBLaFsN0p5HdA8NUtf2je1mt2tUH084c-F6ZXFlkBZZO9pFbZZnEPQ0KCTUoux0P5SusnyP51wXtU18EnIyblIdYAJgSeEUVKUIgMrhLlZeWCw
Abilities: Compound Eyes, Tinted Lens
Base Stats: 60 HP / 45 ATK / 50 DEF / 90 SpA / 80 SpD / 70 Spe ... 395 BST
~Upgraded~
Typing: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/x9k5QUYa-M4xcfY8SX4M2UTWS9u48f9dl_fiJyiB3VTL5l8E-ITUDkf-g4URsGsVKFQH1B5XyRWyX_s3BoRKDXtCkXqMe5YzBAZogwnEoypSFCcKNvgP2IXpZeeSUw https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/9PVszym9Bt4jDT6zbfG4UZde7VFO9MWC19gmA9xX5lHEA_GJsWZFCpoMnaP8Ea0kGpoWvKbzaMXNkJ53kl5vTbVAiAaGxhB7LUvQ3W1-gu6ynOH5r906aPez0Lyc3w
Mega Type: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/x9k5QUYa-M4xcfY8SX4M2UTWS9u48f9dl_fiJyiB3VTL5l8E-ITUDkf-g4URsGsVKFQH1B5XyRWyX_s3BoRKDXtCkXqMe5YzBAZogwnEoypSFCcKNvgP2IXpZeeSUw https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/9PVszym9Bt4jDT6zbfG4UZde7VFO9MWC19gmA9xX5lHEA_GJsWZFCpoMnaP8Ea0kGpoWvKbzaMXNkJ53kl5vTbVAiAaGxhB7LUvQ3W1-gu6ynOH5r906aPez0Lyc3w
Abilities: Compound Eyes, Tinted Lens, Simple
Mega Ability: Compound Eyes
Pokemon U Base Stats: 65 HP / 45 ATK / 65 DEF / 100 SpA / 100 SpD / 95 Spe ... 470 BST
Mega Stats: 90 HP / 45 ATK / 85 DEF / 125 SpA / 110 SpD / 115 Spe ... 570 BST

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/I_HFjA6LdkQEXyLwzezaCPxxMAfGv7_sC1LW9faU_kv4rir54S9hdQ9u6OC26HV9vVdYwLzRm-QaF6eXxPdAyANHIzMo-nydQWhrd5uPwC-MjCwPfHHOWT4nxgiC3w
BEEDRILL
Typing: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/x9k5QUYa-M4xcfY8SX4M2UTWS9u48f9dl_fiJyiB3VTL5l8E-ITUDkf-g4URsGsVKFQH1B5XyRWyX_s3BoRKDXtCkXqMe5YzBAZogwnEoypSFCcKNvgP2IXpZeeSUw https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/FbZ_NZvxvQIWyFTXotOjawALG6gdPO_je3RgTCyokqSwO6Q8-ts2gZy-SHzjitcx-St_3s5VU7efaNQe229wkyjJ4azPvUeZ64DSHlOTDQPmR-h2MHkbF9wX-o8-9Q
Abilities: Swarm, Sniper
Base Stats: 60 HP / 90 ATK / 40 DEF / 45 SpA / 80 SpD / 75 Spe ... 395 BST
~Upgraded~
Typing: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/x9k5QUYa-M4xcfY8SX4M2UTWS9u48f9dl_fiJyiB3VTL5l8E-ITUDkf-g4URsGsVKFQH1B5XyRWyX_s3BoRKDXtCkXqMe5YzBAZogwnEoypSFCcKNvgP2IXpZeeSUw https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/FbZ_NZvxvQIWyFTXotOjawALG6gdPO_je3RgTCyokqSwO6Q8-ts2gZy-SHzjitcx-St_3s5VU7efaNQe229wkyjJ4azPvUeZ64DSHlOTDQPmR-h2MHkbF9wX-o8-9Q
Mega Type: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/x9k5QUYa-M4xcfY8SX4M2UTWS9u48f9dl_fiJyiB3VTL5l8E-ITUDkf-g4URsGsVKFQH1B5XyRWyX_s3BoRKDXtCkXqMe5YzBAZogwnEoypSFCcKNvgP2IXpZeeSUw https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/FbZ_NZvxvQIWyFTXotOjawALG6gdPO_je3RgTCyokqSwO6Q8-ts2gZy-SHzjitcx-St_3s5VU7efaNQe229wkyjJ4azPvUeZ64DSHlOTDQPmR-h2MHkbF9wX-o8-9Q
Abilities: Poison Touch, Infiltrator, Rivalry
Mega Ability: Speed Boost
Pokemon U Base Stats: 65 HP / 105 ATK / 50 DEF / 45 SpA / 100 SpD / 105 Spe ... 470 BST
Mega Stats: 75 HP / 145 ATK / 60 DEF / 45 SpA / 110 SpD / 135 Spe ... 570 BST

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/JFvxhuduHTqtSp7tvVHAqHJfLQkeK0pZs9kR3V5b6vOMR_ocSIe_dAaBTJWKq9nviRgJU-D_CkC_X0OZFXGrZE34E_TtbTYsbo1o6Y82WPNlHXWJOp-q0QD0ZajNgw
RATICATE
Typing: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/KlHG1Jm7bQh1hZaEdBsn_4p5BpAZgP-7tmMmBIOTWocLzkPxG7UP3_LGQdD05B3eMVpb3qSRZ3oVVUAkXWTmE6TV_jG5Gsm-5maAdgRoOthzlOAdnhzAitE4i1IHrg
Abilities: Run Away, Guts, Hustle
Base Stats: 55 HP / 81 ATK / 60 DEF / 50 SpA / 70 SpD / 97 Spe ... 413 BST
~Upgraded~
Typing: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/KlHG1Jm7bQh1hZaEdBsn_4p5BpAZgP-7tmMmBIOTWocLzkPxG7UP3_LGQdD05B3eMVpb3qSRZ3oVVUAkXWTmE6TV_jG5Gsm-5maAdgRoOthzlOAdnhzAitE4i1IHrg
Mega Type: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/KlHG1Jm7bQh1hZaEdBsn_4p5BpAZgP-7tmMmBIOTWocLzkPxG7UP3_LGQdD05B3eMVpb3qSRZ3oVVUAkXWTmE6TV_jG5Gsm-5maAdgRoOthzlOAdnhzAitE4i1IHrg https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/FbZ_NZvxvQIWyFTXotOjawALG6gdPO_je3RgTCyokqSwO6Q8-ts2gZy-SHzjitcx-St_3s5VU7efaNQe229wkyjJ4azPvUeZ64DSHlOTDQPmR-h2MHkbF9wX-o8-9Q
Abilities: Guts, Hustle, Poison Heal
Mega Ability: Ordinary Dash*
Pokemon U Base Stats: 65 HP / 91 ATK / 60 DEF / 60 SpA / 70 SpD / 107 Spe ... 453 BST
Mega Stats: 65 HP / 141 ATK / 70 DEF / 70 SpA / 70 SpD / 137 Spe ... 553 BST
*Ordinary Dash Normal Moves get x1.1 Damage, and +1priority

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/YX5WWwC4d5dT9Vjec7x8ChKpdtu4nduZ0NVWVfRoOifJCpG1CQ3o_ZFMJWYnzA-alVXTKaQYR5INhMX2-A_AdjVMy6BmvAfKlKwL9b3tizPW2eUh-kJmEK9ju_qEYQ
GENGAR
Typing:https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/rUU4vDsc3VD8rvBF4czMYWm3gc3J-RB3W7IaIAu5H6j6dc69_qNeu0hnUiTRM3ngKZ6UuNfmrpl6s9mrlVdlipLO-rfgkmq0Lt0w0yIxdAkG1Q99WS93iilBFFkt4ghttps://lh4.googleusercontent.com/Jickiwb4TEpmQKyTPaVABFDiHVbVf4QRGkrVTzPiF5IXPpRps_od2QkdONaRnnOVblE7XcCsXi3BrbyW3_xVm8HcVjdclD98GybBLLG64Q6mmWITMpAhyO7tiQIkKw
Abilities: Levitate
Base Stats: 60 HP / 65 ATK / 60 DEF / 130 SpA / 75 SpD / 110 Spe … 500 BST
~Upgraded~
Typing:https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/rUU4vDsc3VD8rvBF4czMYWm3gc3J-RB3W7IaIAu5H6j6dc69_qNeu0hnUiTRM3ngKZ6UuNfmrpl6s9mrlVdlipLO-rfgkmq0Lt0w0yIxdAkG1Q99WS93iilBFFkt4ghttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/A5KTplFKJe1gh8Dp1e5T1CO0TRvId64-tjtM-G7mPgYDIQR0IpQtzYAqMbJ31jF5ynXoX57eEmPmeBN3YQ7oaKo6MXdozjT_JXSg2ECJBq7oMGQGWRcekw1qzx64Dw


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/db9UaNKOyP76WUAzo4TYVMOA-kCQ-SbzGWjzECG81b7Fp6hgowMnGXJUHk5hIPB5EW6_Im2eh7jC5x6jBdK71G8dOo5x7Wxkd0lGDd5pPJ5c9acvdb8Nny197NyrbgHYPNO
Typing: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/kcoPrn0-xGO0cQpEfpldOzUSHzOxk8I1mX1M6zl4NKv_DOdXDWslYwiGXltvtpvR9FObnF8hNu2EwEH3z2lcOCA0uN1FlA33UaAlSi2PJa7AbZb5tfUrRlQ9FSgpdQ
Abilities: Insomnia or Forewarn
Hidden: Inner Focus
Base Stats: 85 HP / 73 ATK / 70 DEF / 73 SpA / 115 SpD / 67 Spe … 483 BST
~Upgraded~
Typing: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/kcoPrn0-xGO0cQpEfpldOzUSHzOxk8I1mX1M6zl4NKv_DOdXDWslYwiGXltvtpvR9FObnF8hNu2EwEH3z2lcOCA0uN1FlA33UaAlSi2PJa7AbZb5tfUrRlQ9FSgpdQhttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/A5KTplFKJe1gh8Dp1e5T1CO0TRvId64-tjtM-G7mPgYDIQR0IpQtzYAqMbJ31jF5ynXoX57eEmPmeBN3YQ7oaKo6MXdozjT_JXSg2ECJBq7oMGQGWRcekw1qzx64Dw
Base Stats: 85 HP / 73 ATK /
80 DEF / 80 SpA / 115 SpD / 67 Spe … 500 BST
Mega Ability: Bad Dreams
Mega Stats: x/x/x/x/x/x … 600 BST


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-26kQoKsGVV5ZxOprDOdLJziTz9pU-slN7TNFhCvqXQb-bAfrZDj514GQA2_3gALoem3u9vTCVQurTTEfxgXDQkOQKX1JVcvS1QQOr1K20kRTc1pr-6tbGVCEjp8Sg
MISMAGIUS
Typing:https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/rUU4vDsc3VD8rvBF4czMYWm3gc3J-RB3W7IaIAu5H6j6dc69_qNeu0hnUiTRM3ngKZ6UuNfmrpl6s9mrlVdlipLO-rfgkmq0Lt0w0yIxdAkG1Q99WS93iilBFFkt4g
Abilities: Levitate
Base Stats: 60 HP / 60 ATK / 60 DEF / 105 SpA / 105 SpD / 105 Spe … 465 BST
~Upgraded~
Typing:https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/rUU4vDsc3VD8rvBF4czMYWm3gc3J-RB3W7IaIAu5H6j6dc69_qNeu0hnUiTRM3ngKZ6UuNfmrpl6s9mrlVdlipLO-rfgkmq0Lt0w0yIxdAkG1Q99WS93iilBFFkt4ghttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/kcoPrn0-xGO0cQpEfpldOzUSHzOxk8I1mX1M6zl4NKv_DOdXDWslYwiGXltvtpvR9FObnF8hNu2EwEH3z2lcOCA0uN1FlA33UaAlSi2PJa7AbZb5tfUrRlQ9FSgpdQ



https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/GT4Gn9KPSBPtaz8hvLbPrIJN3isGUHYVRsiJVy3XlAKOn9FD1Vczn55fWVtbrr66v1sF4PW0ZXFvgvmWf7ElcK0M5HFgt0l6P83degsw71b9cSpDO-RTUaD_G_hYoA
MASQUERAIN
Typing: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/Q6FeW9b2Cmj8sGWCeDkeiYtPq9CNCyrtcWRCal6lva9QA79JgV_q4CBzO6cLt-geTe3Qy_dbth4HU12ux9zQ7lNuuenwzNbDvQf2VROOlVePBRxjE1pKIuSMnMysMAhttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_yuyfTLRvRz6xZIgOqCysujZ3zqPmqxt-5XG58JUqA82qW0ivcL0LublD7D89eHg44rmhhkCDPAp5q9jR0_wOMKAUqHzTUdPVDCHtB94eEfpxFiMhvYYvCYnDb3zyQ
Abilities: Intimidate
Hidden: Unnerve
Base Stats: 70 HP / 60 ATK / 62 DEF / 80 SpA / 82 SpD / 60 Spe … 414 BST
~Upgraded~
Typing: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/Q6FeW9b2Cmj8sGWCeDkeiYtPq9CNCyrtcWRCal6lva9QA79JgV_q4CBzO6cLt-geTe3Qy_dbth4HU12ux9zQ7lNuuenwzNbDvQf2VROOlVePBRxjE1pKIuSMnMysMAhttps://lh4.googleusercontent.com/bT2H3nKOEeALDweY9Ob7WmtRyldG-NvAeJqA9LvAWytb1EOmzLXXc-rv4kv6GU_5JtusvC2gU8UK4JgHZgbmk9r_FigZsOi3936OCQNRtu45FYJZkepzA65SLfobng
Base Stats: 75 HP / 60 ATK / 72 DEF / 100 SpA / 82 SpD / 75 Spe … 464 BST

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/O0T8iGmfU-eUmEK5Bks15WmJ5yWFE76Qx3c2kmBUUDlkx79nBOs1oH5wzDTYjN_DpjDfg2hsNpx2kiC8jYd8LK_S2Gjk670PCxRPGBaBduA8e_-_gQVxk_jMhVEPQQVOLBEAT
Typing:https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/Q6FeW9b2Cmj8sGWCeDkeiYtPq9CNCyrtcWRCal6lva9QA79JgV_q4CBzO6cLt-geTe3Qy_dbth4HU12ux9zQ7lNuuenwzNbDvQf2VROOlVePBRxjE1pKIuSMnMysMA
Abilities: Illuminate, Swarm
Hidden: Prankster
Base Stats: 65 HP / 73 ATK / 55 DEF / 47 SpA / 75 SpD / 85 Spe … 400 BST
~Upgraded~
Typing:https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/Q6FeW9b2Cmj8sGWCeDkeiYtPq9CNCyrtcWRCal6lva9QA79JgV_q4CBzO6cLt-geTe3Qy_dbth4HU12ux9zQ7lNuuenwzNbDvQf2VROOlVePBRxjE1pKIuSMnMysMAhttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Z8WK8JgBOU58KHE-54aJsBp3ikHsYpKjk19X0V8pplcHBYbTJEjbCx-2yfJfksjhrUuoL4op-RVBESyV7nAHutaPHSNUKWqNhFwSD6pFga7Cn6SidM7gj0a9Pr85QQ

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/KaUR5Q6NG2Rc-jsjyGS7OnqKWDy_b0aPcotmTu0ti9tIeKp46PWNxKYaLvwL1O8KjsS1nyrugNuLHHtk7Lt60bcnkkhD2NCfUubeWw8Q6GnXrAMBICVL8L01s9iYPw
ILLUMISE
Original Typing: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/Q6FeW9b2Cmj8sGWCeDkeiYtPq9CNCyrtcWRCal6lva9QA79JgV_q4CBzO6cLt-geTe3Qy_dbth4HU12ux9zQ7lNuuenwzNbDvQf2VROOlVePBRxjE1pKIuSMnMysMA
Abilities: Oblivious or Tinted Lens, Hidden: Prankster
Base Stats: 65 HP / 47 ATK / 55 DEF / 73 SpA / 75 SpD / 85 Spe … 400 BST
~Upgraded~
Typing:https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/Q6FeW9b2Cmj8sGWCeDkeiYtPq9CNCyrtcWRCal6lva9QA79JgV_q4CBzO6cLt-geTe3Qy_dbth4HU12ux9zQ7lNuuenwzNbDvQf2VROOlVePBRxjE1pKIuSMnMysMAhttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Z8WK8JgBOU58KHE-54aJsBp3ikHsYpKjk19X0V8pplcHBYbTJEjbCx-2yfJfksjhrUuoL4op-RVBESyV7nAHutaPHSNUKWqNhFwSD6pFga7Cn6SidM7gj0a9Pr85QQ

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/SudYgFF6oj1Yt4w0ByNEree2izKRjRH5_o7XkDpmwvC0Juhmo22jZoPwu_-OoiON6vTTM1285bKHmiMeUj8Ze53Gs5JPbElgadGs2DTfz7MRNF5jrZmNug88oHYPeALUXRAY
Typing: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Z8WK8JgBOU58KHE-54aJsBp3ikHsYpKjk19X0V8pplcHBYbTJEjbCx-2yfJfksjhrUuoL4op-RVBESyV7nAHutaPHSNUKWqNhFwSD6pFga7Cn6SidM7gj0a9Pr85QQ
Abilities: Rivalry or Intimidate
Hidden: Guts
Base Stats: 80 HP / 120 ATK / 79 DEF / 95 SpA / 79 SpD / 70 Spe … 523 BST
~Upgraded~
Typing: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Z8WK8JgBOU58KHE-54aJsBp3ikHsYpKjk19X0V8pplcHBYbTJEjbCx-2yfJfksjhrUuoL4op-RVBESyV7nAHutaPHSNUKWqNhFwSD6pFga7Cn6SidM7gj0a9Pr85QQhttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/A5KTplFKJe1gh8Dp1e5T1CO0TRvId64-tjtM-G7mPgYDIQR0IpQtzYAqMbJ31jF5ynXoX57eEmPmeBN3YQ7oaKo6MXdozjT_JXSg2ECJBq7oMGQGWRcekw1qzx64Dw
Base Stats: 70 HP / 120 ATK / 79 DEF / 95 SpA / 79 SpD / 90 Spe … 533 BST





The Council

tobyjoey March 4th, 2014 11:08 PM

I am not sure if I am understanding this, but it does seem cool. If I may suggest something, I think it would be cool is Mega Ninetales was Fire/Fairy, and Mega Arcanine was Fire/Dragon. I consider Ninetales and Arcanine counterparts considering they both evolve via Firestone and they are version in FRLG (I am not sure about Red/Blue). Arcanine always had hints of being meant to be a legendary, so Dragon makes sense. Ninetales is mystical, and although Ghost does make more sense, Fairy interestingly combats Mega Arcanine's typing giving her an advantage to the 50 stat higher counterpart pokemon. Just a suggestion. Also, if I am misunderstanding this project, please explain it to me, cause I would love to help out! :)

Fading Tree March 5th, 2014 7:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tobyjoey (Post 8128391)
I am not sure if I am understanding this, but it does seem cool. If I may suggest something, I think it would be cool is Mega Ninetales was Fire/Fairy, and Mega Arcanine was Fire/Dragon. I consider Ninetales and Arcanine counterparts considering they both evolve via Firestone and they are version in FRLG (I am not sure about Red/Blue). Arcanine always had hints of being meant to be a legendary, so Dragon makes sense. Ninetales is mystical, and although Ghost does make more sense, Fairy interestingly combats Mega Arcanine's typing giving her an advantage to the 50 stat higher counterpart pokemon. Just a suggestion. Also, if I am misunderstanding this project, please explain it to me, cause I would love to help out! :)

TobyJoey I'll be sending you a PM shortly.
You understand the project. We are trying to redux the pokemon. GameFreak has changed some mons abilities e.g. Scolipede's Quick Feet changed to Speed Boost.
We also have the ability to increase stats or decrease them.

We also want to give mons 3 abilities, and have them learn moves that would make sense.
In addition to all of this we can create abilities as well. e.g. Dragon Skin (turn normal moves to Dragon-type) Arcanine's Mega Fire/Dragon does sound half bad. Dragon Stab E-speed. Nice.

and yes Ninetails mega is fire/ghost --partially inspired by the anime, and it learns more ghost moves than other mons. I'm sure DJTiki would like you on the team.

I'm adding that to the dex on the google doc :)

tobyjoey March 5th, 2014 9:26 AM

I do have another question. Should I post stuff here or on the document comments. Thanks!

Fading Tree March 5th, 2014 9:44 AM

Either or is completely acceptable. The google doc is more direct (Stream Lining). This forum can be used for discussion, debates or request.
Such as: Give Lapras Shell Smash please.

Fading Tree March 16th, 2014 12:33 PM

I have an idea
Butterfree, Venomoth, Beautifly Masquerain, Ninjask, Vivillon ... Receive type changes

Bug/Psychic, Bug/Fairy. Bug/Dark, Bug/Poison, Bug/Water, Bug/Flying

What are your thoughts on a retyping, and what would you retype each as?

DJTiki March 16th, 2014 7:37 PM

Well, gen 2 is underway, well at least its getting close, and we absolutely need a RLY AWESOME SHUCKLE MEGA, cant stress it enough

Fading Tree March 16th, 2014 7:51 PM

I know shuckle needs a mega. but.. Im kinda thinking of a good retyping for the butterfly and bugmons. Shuckle will probally get max 255 .. 255 defenses with 50 points to spare.. it will be annoying to kill.. Contrary with mega forme to? give it 50 more hp. Sandstorm Rest Toxic shellsmash. Perma Life

So Tiki or anybody else what do you think of the typings

Butterfree Bug/Fairy or Bug/Psychic
Venomoth Bug/Poison or Bug/Psychic
Beautifly Bug/Fairy ... Bug/Flying ... Bug/Fairy
Masquran* Water/Bug
Ninjask Bug/Dark or Bug/Flying
Vivivvion ... ???

what would the type retypes be like

..also I'm starting to code for pokemon showdown

Fading Tree March 17th, 2014 12:00 PM


So I was hosting myipaddress.psim.com I've changed the dex files to the upgrades We've agreed on but the changes didn't display here on our simulator. Why is that?

Zorogami March 17th, 2014 12:23 PM

hey there!!
This sounds like a cool project i can see myself participarting in (:
Im just going to jump in and say the following about your proposed retypes:
Butterfree: Bug/Psychic - Seems rather fitting imo
Beautifly: Bug/Fairy - Looks like a Pokemon out of a fairy tell
Masquerain: Water/Bug to keep in line with its pre-evo

The others i would leave as they are, but here are some more Bugs id like to se retyped:
Ledian: Bug/Fighting
Ariados: Bug/Dark
Volbeat and Illumise: Bug/Electric

Just some ideas :) And let me know if im oficially part of the team :P

DJTiki March 17th, 2014 12:37 PM

HEY Zorogami, thanks for those ideas! Although im not the absolute head of the pokemon u, i am co-head, and we would LOVE to have u, ill pm u about it, ok?

Fading Tree March 17th, 2014 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zorogami (Post 8150238)
hey there!!
This sounds like a cool project i can see myself participarting in (:
Im just going to jump in and say the following about your proposed retypes:
Butterfree: Bug/Psychic - Seems rather fitting imo
Beautifly: Bug/Fairy - Looks like a Pokemon out of a fairy tell
Masquerain: Water/Bug to keep in line with its pre-evo

The others i would leave as they are, but here are some more Bugs id like to se retyped:
Ledian: Bug/Fighting
Ariados: Bug/Dark
Volbeat and Illumise: Bug/Electric

Just some ideas :) And let me know if im oficially part of the team :P

You're in. I'm guess your avatar is going to be Blaziken in the OP.

Im thinking Butterfree can be that. Bug/Psy. Ledian has some merit to be bug/fighting (iron fist), and make leedyba just bug?

Ariodos. I want to hear what others have to say.

Last but not least. Volbeat & Illumise. Could float either way. Bug -Ele/Flying/Fire . but none of them appear to be on fire. so Electric bug might be fine ... and I can actually imagine them causing thunderbolts!

Beautifly http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Disputed_Pok%C3%A9mon
at least its wings appeared in the Entei movie.
:P

Blastin'Tyruntz March 17th, 2014 12:40 PM

Oh yeah i have typing suggestions!

Luxray-Electric\Dark
Drowzee+Hypno-Psychic\Ghost
Triple typing (if possible), Mega Mawaile-Steel\Fairy\Fighting.

Fading Tree March 17th, 2014 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerCroCohen (Post 8150293)
Oh yeah i have typing suggestions!

Luxray-Electric\Dark
Drowzee+Hypno-Psychic\Ghost
Triple typing (if possible), Mega Mawaile-Steel\Fairy\Fighting.

I guess you're on the team as well. Do you have a pokemon to represent you?

Hypno I was thinking possibly Psy/Dark since it abducts children. That is certainly something devious to do. Also it has that hypnosis thing. That puts people to sleep.. Wait that instrument was really to put children and pokemon into a dark void. ;D

Luxray Ele/Dark has been thought off.
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Triple Typing. This is something I'm not sure we can program. Well First off lets say that I'm only 5% sure on how to alter the codes. But for Mawile I was really considering renaming Mawile and making Mega Mawile its real evo. Any thoughts on that or name changes?

Zorogami March 17th, 2014 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJTiKi (Post 8150280)
HEY Zorogami, thanks for those ideas! Although im not the absolute head of the pokemon u, i am co-head, and we would LOVE to have u, ill pm u about it, ok?

Thanks a lot, looking forward to interacting with you guys!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fading Tree (Post 8150288)
You're in. I'm guess your avatar is going to be Blaziken in the OP.

Im thinking Butterfree can be that. Bug/Psy. Ledian has some merit to be bug/fighting (iron fist), and make leedyba just bug?

Ariodos. I want to hear what others have to say.

Last but not least. Volbeat & Illumise. Could float either way. Bug -Ele/Flying/Fire . but none of them appear to be on fire. so Electric bug might be fine ... and I can actually imagine them causing thunderbolts!

Beautifly http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Disputed_Pok%C3%A9mon
at least its wings appeared in the Entei movie.
:P

Blaziken seems like a good choice i think :P
Well, Ledyba seems like a pretty regular bug, so id leave it like that

i suggested Ariados as a dark type because he looks so vicious and dangerous imo.
Fire would be really cool for volbeat/illumise, but electric fits better i think. I got this idea from a hack, where they are actually both ele/bug.

Haha wow, i didnt know that about Beautifly!


Hypno as Psychic/dark seems a good choice, and while we are at it, i thinks that a good dual type for the Gothitelle line as well.
Luxray dark/ele is a thing that definitely need to happen!!

Question: Is there some kind of order we go by or just random ideas??

DJTiki March 17th, 2014 1:03 PM

Its just a random order of whatever we think of, we do go by generations of games, but right now, it doesnt matter

Zorogami March 17th, 2014 1:10 PM

Haha ok good to know!! Lets get out everything we can think of, and organize later :P

Fading Tree March 17th, 2014 1:12 PM

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dZekJX0l1XmGtmtEGM9ch7zLUouCbuAmLqQJKwlUBhQ/edit

Anyone who is part of our team should be able to write on it now. I'm going to post the template

DJTiki March 17th, 2014 1:15 PM

Just make sure to pm Fading Tree, ur email so he can allow you to post stuff

Fading Tree March 17th, 2014 10:48 PM

Yanmega
Dragon bug????

A Dragon Fly?

Fading Tree March 17th, 2014 11:40 PM

Not to double post.
But the main things now are to update the OP from likely to least likely

Luxray-Electric\Dark
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Butterfree: Bug/Psychic
Beautifly: Bug/Fairy
Masquerain: Water/Bug to keep in line with its pre-evo
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Volbeat and Illumise: Bug/Electric
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Are we ok with the things above? and the things below I want to be voted on

Drowzee and Hypno typed: Psychic, Psychic/Ghost or Psychic/Dark
an Alternative to the Psychic/Ghost could be Mismagius.
Yanmega retyped to Dragon/Bug (or save that for the mega form?)


I'm giving my votes here: Yes to the above stuff. Beautify and Butterfree will be around the same pokemon. I like the idea of Butterfree being Bug/Fairy and Beautfy being Bug/Psyhic more. This may be a bit of nostagia in me.. Nostagia shouldnt play a role in these decessions though. At one time I swore Beautifly to be a psychic type during gen 3. ... admittedly I did the same for butterfree during gen 2. but by gen III I know it was bug/flying. Though that Bug/Psychic remains in the back of my head still for Beautifly. But in all reality they will be similar pokemon.

Masqurein shouldve stayed Water/bug.

Droze/Hypno I see as a weirdo/creep like a darl type.
Mismagious is a witch. So Psychic/Ghost would fit fine.
Bug/Dragon for yanmega. Your opinions?

One last mon. Gengar. Retyping. Pure Ghost, or Ghost Dark, or Ghost Poison? I dont see any indications that Gengar is a poison type (out side of its movepool or in the anime or manga).

Zorogami March 18th, 2014 1:35 AM

I agree with all the changes from Luxray to Volbeat/Illumise
As for Drowzee/Hypno, id make it psychic/dark if anything at all
Mismagius seems a very solid choice for ghost/psychic imo
Yanmega becoming bug/dragon seems awesome!! I love it

As for Gengar, i think its a poison type because he is made of gas.
Ghost/Dark seems better fitting though

Blastin'Tyruntz March 18th, 2014 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fading Tree (Post 8151380)
Not to double post.
But the main things now are to update the OP from likely to least likely

Luxray-Electric\Dark
---
Butterfree: Bug/Psychic
Beautifly: Bug/Fairy
Masquerain: Water/Bug to keep in line with its pre-evo
---
Volbeat and Illumise: Bug/Electric
---
Are we ok with the things above? and the things below I want to be voted on

Drowzee and Hypno typed: Psychic, Psychic/Ghost or Psychic/Dark
an Alternative to the Psychic/Ghost could be Mismagius.
Yanmega retyped to Dragon/Bug (or save that for the mega form?)


I'm giving my votes here: Yes to the above stuff. Beautify and Butterfree will be around the same pokemon. I like the idea of Butterfree being Bug/Fairy and Beautfy being Bug/Psyhic more. This may be a bit of nostagia in me.. Nostagia shouldnt play a role in these decessions though. At one time I swore Beautifly to be a psychic type during gen 3. ... admittedly I did the same for butterfree during gen 2. but by gen III I know it was bug/flying. Though that Bug/Psychic remains in the back of my head still for Beautifly. But in all reality they will be similar pokemon.

Masqurein shouldve stayed Water/bug.

Droze/Hypno I see as a weirdo/creep like a darl type.
Mismagious is a witch. So Psychic/Ghost would fit fine.
Bug/Dragon for yanmega. Your opinions?

One last mon. Gengar. Retyping. Pure Ghost, or Ghost Dark, or Ghost Poison? I dont see any indications that Gengar is a poison type (out side of its movepool or in the anime or manga).

Agree with all of the above.

Now going down:
Drowzee\Hypno-changed my mind to Psy\Dark
Mismagius-Ghost\Psy works fine for me.
Yanmega- i thought of doing a mega Yanmega and then doing it Bug\Dragon. Sounds okay?
Gengar-Ghost\Dark. He doesn't need the poison typing, didnt even know why they put it there.

I wanna make a suggestion:

Cranidos\Rampardos be retyped to Rock\Dark (Skull fossil)

Thank you. BTW you kinda botched the Grovyle and Krookodile with the names next to them.

DJTiki March 18th, 2014 11:20 AM

Luxray - Electric/Dark
Butterfree - Bug/ Fairy
Beutifly- Bug/Psychic
Masquerian- Bug Water
Volbeat and Illumise : Bug/Electric
Drowzee- Psychic/Ghost, save for mega
Mismagious- Stay mono ghost
Yanmega- Definetly Dragon/Bug
Gengar- Ghost/Dark

Fading Tree March 18th, 2014 11:46 AM

come here and lets work together
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dZekJX0l1XmGtmtEGM9ch7zLUouCbuAmLqQJKwlUBhQ/edit

Fading Tree March 18th, 2014 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerCroCohen (Post 8152219)
Agree with all of the above.
Cranidos\Rampardos be retyped to Rock\Dark (Skull fossil)

Not ignoring this

But what do you guys want to do after we have all these guys coded or thought up? Pokemon Hack, Simulator? or what?
--Just for fun is an acceptable answer

Blastin'Tyruntz March 18th, 2014 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fading Tree (Post 8152324)
Not ignoring this

But what do you guys want to do after we have all these guys coded or thought up? Pokemon Hack, Simulator? or what?
--Just for fun is an acceptable answer

Hmmmmm......a Dryano-styled hack could be nice. I've always wanted to make a game.
If all on board, that is.

And, Was thinking giving Mega-Hypno the ability Bad Dreams (Reducing a sleeping foe's HP every turn)
What do you think? It's exculsive to Drakrai as of now.

Come here guys https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dZekJX0l1XmGtmtEGM9ch7zLUouCbuAmLqQJKwlUBhQ/edit?usp=sharing

tobyjoey March 18th, 2014 6:46 PM

Hello, people! It is really neat to see more people are joining this! I am sorry I havn't been on lately, laptop broke. Trying to use Wii U to send this.

Fading Tree March 18th, 2014 7:34 PM

You're BACK! :D
Well I guess toby wont be going on google docs with wii u :(
I'm curious. What can we do.
A simulator isn't going to get made sadly.
--Not without support at least.
we could make a game. (grudges at saying that line)
Lets say that we do make a game.
Its fun to make new pokemon and alter types and stats but I want to play with the pokemon we make

DJTiki March 18th, 2014 7:43 PM

Pokemon U Version, if we cant get a pokemon server running. Ill plan it out okay?

Zorogami March 19th, 2014 1:34 AM

Cranidos being rock/dark sounds like a cool idea, id be down for that.
Also, making our own game would be amazing!! Id totally be on board u guys :D
Mega-Hypno getting Bad Dreams sounds like an amazing idea, it fits so well!

Blastin'Tyruntz March 19th, 2014 5:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zorogami (Post 8153428)
Cranidos being rock/dark sounds like a cool idea, id be down for that.
Also, making our own game would be amazing!! Id totally be on board u guys :D
Mega-Hypno getting Bad Dreams sounds like an amazing idea, it fits so well!

Thank you! Glad you liked it!
I wanna give him a stat up, from this:

HP 97 / ATK 165 / DEF 60 / SpA 65 / SpD 50 / Spe 58 (total 495 BST)

To this:

HP 100 / ATK 165 / DEF 60 / SpA 65 / SpD 90 / Spe 58 (total 538 BST)

And for Mega-Rampardos to become a skeleton, gaining a huge speed boost while defences gets lowered slightly, how can that be?

Like that:

Hp 100 / ATK 170 / DEF 50 / SpA 65 / SpD 80 / Spe 150 ( total 615 BST...not bad is it?)

If we give him that Special defense boost, he can take less danage from Special moves like those of Water or Grass types.

Fading Tree March 19th, 2014 7:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerCroCohen (Post 8153633)
Thank you! Glad you liked it!
I wanna give him a stat up, from this:

HP 97 / ATK 165 / DEF 60 / SpA 65 / SpD 50 / Spe 58 (total 495 BST)

To this:

HP 100 / ATK 165 / DEF 60 / SpA 65 / SpD 90 / Spe 58 (total 538 BST)

And for Mega-Rampardos to become a skeleton, gaining a huge speed boost while defences gets lowered slightly, how can that be?

Like that:

Hp 100 / ATK 170 / DEF 50 / SpA 65 / SpD 80 / Spe 150 ( total 615 BST...not bad is it?)

If we give him that Special defense boost, he can take less danage from Special moves like those of Water or Grass types.

Why would Rampardos become Rock/Dark. I like the idea of him being pure rock. (being a dark type is completely subjective or grass type for that matter: sudowoodo)

Rampardos:
HP 97 / ATK 165 / DEF 60 / SpA 65 / SpD 50 / Spe 58 (total 495 BST)
To this:
HP 100 / ATK 165 / DEF 60 / SpA 65 / SpD 90 / Spe 58 (total 538 BST)

Not Bad, Not Bad indeed.

HP 97 / ATK 165 / DEF 75 / SpA 60 / SpD 70 / Spe 78 (total 445 BST)
Ability: Rock Head
(if we had a simulator this would be much easier)

With your set rampadors is able to tank some hits before dying. In competative play rampardos usually takes a hit and then dies off to head smash recoil.
I'm suggesting giving him more fair defenses to live more than 2 hits, and give him reasonable speed that he could be scarfed and kill a few things before dying.

Mega Rampardos
Hp 100 / ATK 170 / DEF 50 / SpA 65 / SpD 80 / Spe 150 ( total 615 BST...not bad is it?)
... when making a mega we go +100
Croc you went 538 BST to 615 I'll let you fix it your self :P do 638 should've been 638 for the rampardos you've selected.

Rampardos
Base: HP 97 / ATK 165 / DEF 75 / SpA 60 / SpD 70 / Spe 78 (total 445 BST)
Mega: HP 107 / ATK 175 / DEF 90 / SpA 55 / SpD 80 / Spe 137 (total 545 BST)

(I like your mega-pardos a little more than mine)

Blastin'Tyruntz March 19th, 2014 8:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fading Tree (Post 8153842)
Why would Rampardos become Rock/Dark. I like the idea of him being pure rock. (being a dark type is completely subjective or grass type for that matter: sudowoodo)

Rampardos:
HP 97 / ATK 165 / DEF 60 / SpA 65 / SpD 50 / Spe 58 (total 495 BST)
To this:
HP 100 / ATK 165 / DEF 60 / SpA 65 / SpD 90 / Spe 58 (total 538 BST)

Not Bad, Not Bad indeed.

HP 97 / ATK 165 / DEF 75 / SpA 60 / SpD 70 / Spe 78 (total 445 BST)
Ability: Rock Head
(if we had a simulator this would be much easier)

With your set rampadors is able to tank some hits before dying. In competative play rampardos usually takes a hit and then dies off to head smash recoil.
I'm suggesting giving him more fair defenses to live more than 2 hits, and give him reasonable speed that he could be scarfed and kill a few things before dying.

Mega Rampardos
Hp 100 / ATK 170 / DEF 50 / SpA 65 / SpD 80 / Spe 150 ( total 615 BST...not bad is it?)
... when making a mega we go +100
Croc you went 538 BST to 615 I'll let you fix it your self :P do 638 should've been 638 for the rampardos you've selected.

Rampardos
Base: HP 97 / ATK 165 / DEF 75 / SpA 60 / SpD 70 / Spe 78 (total 445 BST)
Mega: HP 107 / ATK 175 / DEF 90 / SpA 55 / SpD 80 / Spe 137 (total 545 BST)

(I like your mega-pardos a little more than mine)

Well thank you, i go to bulbapedia nad then some competitive reviews of the pokemn from the interwebs, then my own opinion and it's done. Not so hard to do, takes a lot of consideration to make perfect pokes though.

BTW his BST is 495 did you make it 445?

Also my mega-pardos fixed should be:
Hp 120 / ATK 170 / DEF 53 / SpA 65 / SpD 80 / Spe 150 (total 638 BST)

This way, while being extremly fast and furios, he gains a HP stat boost so some Kangaskhan can't overkill him...i hope.

And because his fossil is the skull fossil and he uses his head like the dinosaur he is based on , maybe adding Dark typing on him isn't so bad. The design should be of a skeletal rampardos with some cracks along his skull.

Spooky, intimidating and totally awesome.

Azire March 19th, 2014 8:27 AM

Are you just changing typings and making mega right now? A couple of moves I think Pokémon need to learn is,

Mew - Sketch
It's supposed to be able to learn ANY move. Sketch allows Mew to do that without causing any problems. It also already learns Transform which is Ditto exclusive.

Vivillon - Focus Blast
Would be absolutely amazing. Could also use Baton Pass a little bit less but helps make it competitive with other Butterfly/Moth Pokémon.

Also would it be possible to perhaps change the typings of each Vivillon form? Say Sandstorm gets Ground/Rock while Polar/Icy Snow get Ice? Something to think about. Not sure how possible that actually is.

EDIT: I meant those simply for example. I was thinking new typings for every Vivillon. Garden - Grass, Meadow - Fairy maybe? Modern - Steel? Mostly going off the name and not looks for that one.

Blastin'Tyruntz March 19th, 2014 8:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azire (Post 8153937)
Are you just changing typings and making mega right now? A couple of moves I think Pokémon need to learn is,

Mew - Sketch
It's supposed to be able to learn ANY move. Sketch allows Mew to do that without causing any problems. It also already learns Transform which is Ditto exclusive.

Vivillon - Focus Blast
Would be absolutely amazing. Could also use Baton Pass a little bit less but helps make it competitive with other Butterfly/Moth Pokémon.

Also would it be possible to perhaps change the typings of each Vivillon form? Say Sandstorm gets Ground/Rock while Polar/Icy Snow get Ice? Something to think about. Not sure how possible that actually is.

EDIT: I meant those simply for example. I was thinking new typings for every Vivillon. Garden - Grass, Meadow - Fairy maybe? Modern - Steel? Mostly going off the name and not looks for that one.

Yes right now ATM we are working on retyping,creating megas and a little BST changing.
Thank you for the suggestions :)

Fading Tree March 19th, 2014 9:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azire (Post 8153937)
Are you just changing typings and making mega right now? A couple of moves I think Pokémon need to learn is,

Mew - Sketch

Vivillon - Focus Blast
Would be absolutely amazing. Could also use Baton Pass a little bit less but helps make it competitive with other Butterfly/Moth Pokémon.

Also would it be possible to perhaps change the typings of each Vivillon form? Say Sandstorm gets Ground/Rock while Polar/Icy Snow get Ice? Something to think about. Not sure how possible that actually is.
EDIT: I meant those simply for example. I was thinking new typings for every Vivillon. Garden - Grass, Meadow - Fairy maybe? Modern - Steel? Mostly going off the name and not looks for that one.

Mew can have 1 Sketch Move via Level 90-100. I'll add that to the OP. Azire if you're gonna join. Tell me a pokemon to represent you. Also Mew has imposter.. well we did release that yet. lol
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It was a typo. My Pardos had 545

HP 97 / ATK 165 / DEF 60 / SpA 65 / SpD 50 / Spe 58 ... 538
HP 97 / ATK 165 / DEF 75 / SpA 60 / SpD 70 / Spe 78 ... 545

Hp 120 / ATK 170 / DEF 53 / SpA 65 / SpD 80 / Spe 150 ... 638
Mega: HP 107 / ATK 175 / DEF 90 / SpA 55 / SpD 80 / Spe 137 ... 645

Could we compromise on stats? 107 HP / 175 ATK /Def 77/ SpA 60 / SpD 76 /150 Speed ... 645
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We'll come to the perfect stats soon for this mon.
I'm going to update OP now

Aeroblast March 19th, 2014 9:25 AM

I just want to point out that Mega Evolutions do not undergo change in HP Base Stats, unless you're changing that rule.

Fading Tree March 19th, 2014 9:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aeroblast (Post 8154052)
I just want to point out that Mega Evolutions do not undergo change in HP Base Stats, unless you're changing that rule.

Thanks for pointing that out. Wooh-- that is some work we have to fix.
I didn't know that.

DJTiki March 19th, 2014 10:26 AM

Omg, thats something to fix, unless we change the rule

classiccartoonsftw March 19th, 2014 10:28 AM

Can I join in too?

If yes, then I'd like to suggest some type chart changes:

Water - Now weak to Poison
Ice - Now resists Water, Bug, and Fairy

Also, you should make Ice types receive a 50% increase in Defense during hail.

DJTiki March 19th, 2014 10:32 AM

Yeah, sure, classiccartoon, the more the merrier :) Just pm ur email address as well as the best way to communicate with u, right now, hopefully, you can get google hangouts, its ok if not

Fading Tree March 19th, 2014 11:06 AM

cartoons what avatar do you want?

I'll pm both of you.
I'm moving use into Phase Alpha 0.2

Cartoons I know we've discussed changes like this before but I want to save game mechanics for last ^_^
Once we go from Bulbasaur to diance we can talk about changes of game mechanics.

As of now we only talk
pokemon type, ability, changes and suggested mega spreads.
and potentially learn sets. As of now we are getting our feet on solid ground.

Fading Tree March 19th, 2014 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJTiKi (Post 8154153)
Omg, thats something to fix, unless we change the rule

We're going to abide by the rules GameFreak have implemented. Tiki by friday I'm going to have a new dex up.
Tiki this is going to be the final final time I restart the dex.
We finally have order.
Joey I'm sorry for wasting your time with the moves you posted on the previous dex. I thank you so much for it, but this is going to be the final update.

Zorogami March 19th, 2014 11:39 AM

A lot of stuff happened in the 2 hours ive been gone.
I think the Vivillon patterns/type association is a cool thing to do if possible!
Also, i wouldnt like to ignore the rule that Megas dont get changes in their base HP.

mangamusicfan March 19th, 2014 1:28 PM

I like the Idea of the project, I wish U good luck with it.
Can't wait to see the results!

Fading Tree March 20th, 2014 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zorogami (Post 8154291)
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Quote:

Originally Posted by DJTiKi (Post 8154168)
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Quote:

Originally Posted by classiccartoonsftw (Post 8154160)
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Originally Posted by KillerCroCohen (Post 8153945)
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Originally Posted by Azire (Post 8153937)
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Originally Posted by tobyjoey (Post 8153027)
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Could you guys please review this?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1S-m_OSfHJH8oF1zQtCJILRYsAXdjuEwWt3HZmF-qM1M/

Butterfree (and Beutifly) is plain bug. Because we are still debating if it is Bug/Psychic or Bug/Fairy.
Amurder93 says keep Beautifly Bug/Flying and make the mega Bug/Psychic.

This is something i worked out by tomorrow so we can go pichu (25) to bellosom (48) and continue suite.

I vote Butterfree Bug/Fairy.

But mainly review the list, and see if any stat changes should be made. ability changes, or type changes.

classiccartoonsftw March 20th, 2014 11:44 AM

I think Bug/Psychic is more suitable for Butterfree. I don't really see it as a fairy.

Venomoth is another Pokemon I see as a Bug/Psychic, but we need to set the two apart without one completely outclassing another. I say that we make Venomoth bulkier than Butterfree, particularly on the special side.

Zorogami March 20th, 2014 11:45 AM

i vote Butterfree Bug + Flying or Psychic, not fairy though

Blastin'Tyruntz March 21st, 2014 3:25 AM

I prefer Beautifly as Bug\Fairy and Butterfree as Bug\Psychic.
I also suggest these stuff:
-Butterfree mega ability be Serene grace.
-Changing Arboks' mega ability to a new ability called "Venomous". All Poison moves get +1 priority.

I also changed the megastone name for butterfree from Butterfreeite to Butterfrite, if that's okay. Just sounds better.

If you can all vote on my changes that'll be nice, thanks.
Good luck to all of us in Alpha 0.2! :)

Zorogami March 21st, 2014 5:00 AM

I agree on Butterfree getting Serene Grace, but i think Mega-Arbok should get some other type of ability. Maybe something like "Vemon Fangs" which gives all "biting" moves a 20% chance of poisoning the target?? Also, i cant open up the doc files while at work apparently, so ill have to wait to get home -.- im sorry

Blastin'Tyruntz March 21st, 2014 5:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zorogami (Post 8157554)
I agree on Butterfree getting Serene Grace, but i think Mega-Arbok should get some other type of ability. Maybe something like "Vemon Fangs" which gives all "biting" moves a 20% chance of poisoning the target?? Also, i cant open up the doc files while at work apparently, so ill have to wait to get home -.- im sorry

Alright,no pressure man.
When all is said and done, we'll move to 25-48 right?
Another suggestion: Remove the Fairy type from Pidgeot. and the Fightng type from Fearow. I mean, why would you even put Fairy type on Pidgeot?

Zorogami March 21st, 2014 5:14 AM

Sounds good to me. And the Arbok thing was just an idea, we can still discuss it!

I would say to remove those 2 types as well, dont seem that fitting to me

Fading Tree March 21st, 2014 7:13 AM

I'm willing to make Butterfree and Beautifly Bug/Fairy

Butterfree: Bug/Flying
Megafree: Bug/Psychic

Should these mons get a base form retype or only in the mega?
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Pidgeot ... Normal/Flying? ... In all reality we made Mega Pidgeot Fairy/Flying 'out of love' and gave it Pixelate to make use of its new typing. (also to give an alternative to Togekiss) ... I dont know any other bird that could be part fairy. (other than swanna but that is staying Water/Flying as of now)

Fearow was made by Djtiki
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Mega Arbok ability
Venomous ... +1 Poison moves ... I like the sound of that
Intimidate
Tough Jaw ... All bite moves have +50% dmg
Vampire ... all bite moves restore 50% health from damage (they become drain punch)
.....the typing Poison/Dark with the ability Vampire would be great. Poison Fang / Crunch would be great stab with ice fang for coverage.

thanks cro for pointing the stuff out :)

for fearow talk to Tiki first. I guess we had it in mind fearow would be more of a fighting in our game (Pokemon U council).

Blastin'Tyruntz March 21st, 2014 7:23 AM

Okay. I can agree on Fearow now that i've reconsidered it.
For Pidgeot i still believe he should stay Normal\Flying or make it Flying\Normal would be interesting.

And i think Butterfree should be base retyped to Bug\Psychic, if we are already at it.

Zorogami March 21st, 2014 7:59 AM

I guess Fearow being Flying/Fighting is okay, although he doesnt look much like it. Id rather give Braviary that typing...
Also, i wouldnt just give Pidgeot the Fairy type because there is no better match. Its not like we have to retype every Pokemon for the sake of re-typing or making every possible type combo available, at least thats my opinion. If you really want to give another flying type the fairy type as well, i would go with Chatot or Swablu for example.
I can see Mega-Arbok getting the "Vampire" Ability, but 50% may be a bit OP??

Fading Tree March 21st, 2014 8:32 AM

Biting move inflicts damage, and up to 50% of the damage dealt to the target is restored to the user as HP. If this attack deals 1 HP of damage, 1 HP will be restored to the user.
--stolen from Drain punch.
I dont think it is too op.
Swablu/Altaria fairy/dragon has been mentioned before

Zoro point noted*
normal flying bird again.

classiccartoonsftw March 21st, 2014 8:38 AM

Pidgeot should stay Normal/Flying IMO, because it's the original regional bird. I don't really care if Fearow stays Normal/Flying or gains the Fighting type, but either way, we do need to set the two apart. Pidgeot could be bulkier than Fearow, whereas Fearow could be faster and stronger.

As for Mega Arbok, I agree with the Venom Fangs idea.

Zorogami March 21st, 2014 8:39 AM

I guess it wouldnt be too OP then if it works just like drain punch

Blastin'Tyruntz March 21st, 2014 8:43 AM

Vampire on Arbok is just so he can stand his own in battles.
Venomous can be Sevipers' ability along with aboost when we get there.

Also, now that we moved onto 25-49, vote about these matters too:

1. Raichu was voted to have 1 mega evolution, but because he is mixed attacker (110 both physical and special attack) i did 2 stat changes for the possible mega: Physical one and Special one. The BST, you'll notice he has the same speed, but only the abilities and the spread is changed:

Mega Raichu-Physical
Ability-Motor Drive
Stats-
HP 60 \ ATK 145 \ DEF 80 \ SpA 110 \ SpD 100 \ Spe 130 (total 625 BST)

Mega Raichu-Special
Ability-Lightningrod
Stats-
HP 60 \ ATK 110 \ DEF 100 \ SpA 145 \ SpD 80 \ Spe 130 (total 625 BST)

2. Mega-Sandslash gains Rock type and the following,yes or no:
Ability- Sand Claws (my ability-all slashing moves become ground type,so he gets STAB on them)
Stats-
HP 80 \ ATK 120 \ DEF 120 \ SpA 45 \ SpD 85 \ Spe 120 (total 570 BST)

So the matters at hand are:
a.Mega Pidgeot
b.Mega Fearow
c.Mega Arbok (ability only)
d.Which mega Raichu to pick.
e.New mega Sandslash (stats and ability),agreeing or not.

Have a nice day!

Zorogami March 21st, 2014 8:48 AM

Seviper getting Venom Fangs sounds good, but we will get to that.

I like both the Megas for Raichu, so whatever gets most votes i would say

Mega-Sandlash: I like everything but the added Rock-Type. I would leave him as Ground only. The stat spread is nice

As for the matters at hand, here are my opinions:
a. Flying/Normal
b. Flying/Normal or Fighting
c. Vampire
d. Fine with both, but i prefer the SP. ATT one
e. Yes to all but Rock typing

Blastin'Tyruntz March 21st, 2014 9:03 AM

It's not Venom fangs, it's venomous (+1 priority)
The other ability is Vampire (works like a poison type drain punch)

Zorogami March 21st, 2014 9:07 AM

Aw sorry didnt pay attention, works as well though

Blastin'Tyruntz March 21st, 2014 9:10 AM

Yeah it does.I need votes from Fading tree,Classic,Tiki,Amurder,Azire and TobyJoey, so i can go through them and PM them to Fading.

classiccartoonsftw March 21st, 2014 9:17 AM

Mega Sandslash shouldn't get the Rock typing. That'll make it super vulnerable to Water and Grass attacks. If you don't believe me, look at Golem, Rhydon, and Rhyperior.

Also, I don't like the idea of Sand Claws taking away the Dark typing of Night Slash. I'd give Mega Sandslash the ability Tough Claws. That'll not only power up its Slashing moves, but also other contact moves like X-Scissor.

Blastin'Tyruntz March 21st, 2014 9:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classiccartoonsftw (Post 8157932)
Mega Sandslash shouldn't get the Rock typing. That'll make it super vulnerable to Water and Grass attacks. If you don't believe me, look at Golem, Rhydon, and Rhyperior.

Also, I don't like the idea of Sand Claws taking away the Dark typing of Night Slash. I'd give Mega Sandslash the ability Tough Claws. That'll not only power up its Slashing moves, but also other contact moves like X-Scissor.

X-scissor is a slashing move,actually. But okay.
What do you say about Raichu?

Fading Tree March 21st, 2014 9:23 AM

a.normal/flying
b.normal/fighting
c.Mega Arbok (Vampire)
d. 60 / 160 / 70 / 115 / 85 / 135 or 60 / 115 / 85 / 160 / 70 / 135
e.mega Sandslash (pure ground, no complaint in the stat distribution) I'll get back to you on the ability. I need time to think. I'll compare it to normalize sounds like a good ability but it sounds not as well.
I'll leave the mega ability up to debate for now. by defualt it's sand claws for now.
Sand Veil could we get another ability (since Sand Veil is banned in most forms of competitive play? Rough Skin for normal sandslash but what should sandschrew get?)

classiccartoonsftw March 21st, 2014 9:24 AM

About Venomous and Venom Fangs, why don't we make it that Venom Fangs gives +1 priority on fang attacks and Venomous gives all fang attacks a 20% chance to poison the target, and let it stack with Poison Fang's poisoning chance?

Either that, or we could apply both effects to Venom Fangs instead.

Blastin'Tyruntz March 21st, 2014 9:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classiccartoonsftw (Post 8157951)
About Venomous and Venom Fangs, why don't we make it that Venom Fangs gives +1 priority on fang attacks and Venomous gives all fang attacks a 20% chance to poison the target, and let it stack with Poison Fang's poisoning chance?

Either that, or we could apply both effects to Venom Fangs instead.

Again,there is no ability called venom fangs. :)
Now, i need your vote on Mega Raichu, so have a looksy.

And Fading, did i do the stat spread wrong or you suggest otherwise?

Fading Tree March 21st, 2014 9:38 AM

Cro I was giving a suggestion for mega raichu based off of your spread ^w^
---
@ClassicCartoons I like the ability you came up with. I decided to rename it snake bit if you're cool with that?
Snake Bite - gives +1 priority on fang attacks and Venomous gives all fang attacks a 20% chance to poison the target. All Fangmoves have a 30% chance of inflicting status. It would suck to have the paralyzes or burn be negelagated by a quick poison :p but It fits more with snakes how they quickly bite ;D

Zorogami March 21st, 2014 9:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerCroCohen (Post 8157955)
Again,there is no ability called venom fangs. :)

To be fair, there is, first post of this page...i came up with it :P

Fading Tree March 21st, 2014 9:50 AM

Zoro
Vampire or Snake Bite for Mega Arbok?
--you can rework snake bite a little bit //You started it, ClassicCartoons brought it back up.

classiccartoonsftw March 21st, 2014 9:53 AM

@Fading Tree
It's okay if you want Snake Bite, but only if you change Venomous to Venom Fangs.

Zorogami March 21st, 2014 10:00 AM

Hmm not sure, im feeling Vampire is the cooler ability though

Shrew March 21st, 2014 10:04 AM

I'm really interested in being part of this project. I like to think of ways to improve pokemon constantly on a daily basis. Could I join? :)

In regards to Sand Claws, I think this could be a boost to Sandslash if it were to either (1) give a slashing moves an increase in power, such that they're stronger than Earthquake, or (2) hit pokemon with levitate/flying-typing for neutral damage which Earthquake otherwise could not.

classiccartoonsftw March 21st, 2014 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zorogami (Post 8158018)
Hmm not sure, im feeling Vampire is the cooler ability though

In that case, let's save Venom Fangs and Snake Bite/Venomous for Seviper.

Blastin'Tyruntz March 21st, 2014 10:16 AM

So, what is the final results regarding naming? I'm just gonna say, I like Venomous as a name. I think vampire is the coolest ability we came up with though.
Shrew, PM Fading Tree your email address and you'll be good to join.

Amurder93,Azire,DjTiki and TobyJoey left.
And of course the lovely Shrew :)

Come on people, we want to make some progress today, we need to organize 700-something pokemon!

Oh yeah and if someone can sum up all the abilities we thought of, it'll be nice.

classiccartoonsftw March 21st, 2014 10:31 AM

Since KCC asked me about Mega Raichu, I propose that we use both Mega Raichus. The physical Raichu could be Mega Raichu X, and the special one could be Mega Raichu Y.

But what Raichu really needs, is an expanded movepool. I suggest that we give it Fire Punch, Ice Punch, DynamicPunch, Play Rough, and Aqua Tail for physical attacks, and Dazzling Gleam, Energy Ball, and Signal Beam for special attacks.

Blastin'Tyruntz March 21st, 2014 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classiccartoonsftw (Post 8158070)
Since KCC asked me about Mega Raichu, I propose that we use both Mega Raichus. The physical Raichu could be Mega Raichu X, and the special one could be Mega Raichu Y.

But what Raichu really needs, is an expanded movepool. I suggest that we give it Fire Punch, Ice Punch, DynamicPunch, Play Rough, and Aqua Tail for physical attacks, and Dazzling Gleam, Energy Ball, and Signal Beam for special attacks.

Classic, appreciate the idea, but the council already decided on 1 mega only, which will be a phycial OR special attacker.
Do yu have a stand or are you neutral?

classiccartoonsftw March 21st, 2014 10:42 AM

In that case, let's just go with the physical one, and give it the attacks I proposed. But then we should remove Mega Charizard Y as well, and use Mega Charizard X as the only Mega Charizard.

Also, I suggest that we should let Bug Bite be affected by abilities like Strong Jaw, Venom Fangs, and Venomous, since technically it is a biting attack.

Zorogami March 21st, 2014 10:59 AM

I agree in the later, bug bite should get the boost for obvious reasons.
I dont think Charizard should only have one mega, thats something GF made and it should stay that way

Blastin'Tyruntz March 21st, 2014 11:00 AM

I'm on board classic (only the latter). Fine by me.

Amurder93,Azire,DjTiki,TobyJoey and Shrew, please vote about the subjects a-e,either by PM to me or here.
:)

classiccartoonsftw March 21st, 2014 11:16 AM

I propose a new effect for Sand Claws. I suggest that the ability allows the user to Pursuit trap the opponent with any move, not just with Pursuit. I think this ability would be great for a Mega Dugtrio.

What do you guys think?

Blastin'Tyruntz March 21st, 2014 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classiccartoonsftw (Post 8158146)
I propose a new effect for Sand Claws. I suggest that the ability allows the user to Pursuit trap the opponent with any move, not just with Pursuit. I think this ability would be great for a Mega Dugtrio.

What do you guys think?

I told you i'm on board, only if you take the 2 effects apart and make it a new ability with it's own name.
So we got 6 things to discuss now. I would like us to finish this until Sunday-Monday tops, so we could move on.

Zorogami March 21st, 2014 11:23 AM

Do you mean by that that any move would do twice the damage when the Pokemon wants to switch out?? Seems kinda OP tbh

classiccartoonsftw March 21st, 2014 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zorogami (Post 8158161)
Do you mean by that that any move would do twice the damage when the Pokemon wants to switch out?? Seems kinda OP tbh

In that case, we should make it so that Pursuit does only 1.5 times the damage when the Pokemon switches out. Same for any attack used by a Sand Claws user. To compensate for this, we could increase Pursuit's initial BP to 50.

Golden Warrior March 21st, 2014 12:52 PM

Just kinda coming in here. Hello. I'd like to joint this project as well, it seems VERY interesting. As a matter of fact, I think I might be of some service in one way or another. (Probably won't be able to update as frequently on my end though. I'm pretty busy lately.)

Anyhow, even though I quite literally just got here, I'd like to give my opinion on a few of this issues currently at hand. (Based on KillerCroCohen's post):

a.Mega Pidgeot should stay Normal/Flying, as it was the one to first have this typing.

b.With Mega Fearow I liked the idea of Flying/Fighting, but also make it in such a way that it's not just another Hawlucha.

c.Mega Arbok's ability... not quite sure what to think of the ideas, they both kinda got juggled to the point where I'm not sure which is which. However, what I THINK is the Venom Fangs idea sounds good.

d. With Mega Raichu, I quite wish the rule of only one mega hadn't already been placed. The entire Pikachu family is mixed attacking, so I would think it would be better to either have a mixed attacking Mega, or two megas that prioritize. However, neither of those seem to be possible at this point. However, if I were to choose one over the other, I'd go for the special attacker.

e. On Mega Sandslash, I like the original Sand Claws idea, the one classic made seems interesting, but the original sounds nicer for Mega Sandslash. As far as stats go, it's a fine spread.

Zorogami March 21st, 2014 1:01 PM

Welcome to the Club Golden Warrior!! Nice to see another soul join us (:
Im glad you are directly giving us input.

As for Mega-Raichu, we stated to make one Mega first, but we could add a 2nd one in the future. Now, if everyone prefers the idea of having both, id be on board

DJTiki March 21st, 2014 1:12 PM

Sry I have been inactive, just alot of things have been up. :p. But im ready to start something again.

Fading Tree March 21st, 2014 1:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classiccartoonsftw (Post 8158089)
In that case, let's just go with the physical one, and give it the attacks I proposed. But then we should remove Mega Charizard Y as well, and use Mega Charizard X as the only Mega Charizard.

Also, I suggest that we should let Bug Bite be affected by abilities like Strong Jaw, Venom Fangs, and Venomous, since technically it is a biting attack.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerCroCohen (Post 8158077)
Classic, appreciate the idea, but the council already decided on 1 mega only, which will be a phycial OR special attacker.
Do yu have a stand or are you neutral?

We are allowed to host as many megas as we need. So If a pokemon needs two mega forms IT WILL GET TWO Mega forms. The Pokemon gamefreak has implemented. We will not deleted pokemon gamefreak has made.

other than that we are good :) So Mega Raichu can have a XY form. If you are passionate about a certain evolution such as a Dragon/Flying Dodrio we will try to implement it into the project. This is community. I will be changing Pidgeot back to Normal/Flying because you all want it, but I could say I want Pidgeot-Mega Fairy/Flying to be like Togekiss such as Fearow being Fighting/Flying like Hawlucha.

Killercro Amurder93 is my RL friend he doesn't have a PC account. I think our votes should be in public.

Golden Warrior I'll add you in a minute :)

could people please start finishing this document please. There are plenty of xxxxx's everywhere
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Bx90j8ZIWoxylLzQwAAMAV33gFyihaUftCmkMSkjDHo/edit

you can use this as a reference
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18P85gjn2TBRBOzZoiO9SOv36IR6a6Am_ZFywEvezvas/edit

I want to prepare 50 - 70

Zorogami March 21st, 2014 1:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fading Tree (Post 8158360)
but I could say I want Pidgeot-Mega Fairy/Flying to be like Togekiss such as Fearow being Fighting/Flying like Hawlucha.

could people please start finishing this document please. There are plenty of xxxxx's everywhere
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Bx90j8ZIWoxylLzQwAAMAV33gFyihaUftCmkMSkjDHo/edit

you can use this as a reference
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18P85gjn2TBRBOzZoiO9SOv36IR6a6Am_ZFywEvezvas/edit

I want to prepare 50 - 70

Does that man you WANT Mega-Pidgeot to be Flying/fairy or is it just an option you are suggesting??
Also, ill get started on that doc ;)

eeveeandmew March 21st, 2014 1:50 PM

May i join? From what have seen, there are no girls working on this project.{XD} Also, for fearow, a flying/fighting type is approved by me!

Fading Tree March 21st, 2014 1:51 PM

merely a suggestion. That would make Pidgeot a bit more "useful" Giving it pixelate. Farfetch'd is coming up and that mon has received love from this community. You'll see.

Fading Tree March 21st, 2014 1:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eeveeandmew (Post 8158405)
May i join? From what have seen, there are no girls working on this project.{XD} Also, for fearow, a flying/fighting type is approved by me!

It's a community project we're all apart of it. (gender means little here) we're focusing on ideas ^w^
As of now we are working from and review Pichu to Vileplume/Belloossom. File #025 to #049.
Review the work, and give your two cents. That's all I ask :)

eeveeandmew March 21st, 2014 1:57 PM

okay. I was just pointing out a fact btw. :P

eeveeandmew March 21st, 2014 2:08 PM

i cant edit it. how am i supposed to help if i can do nothing on it ~_~

Blastin'Tyruntz March 21st, 2014 2:29 PM

Hi i was gone for a few hours, sum it up for me?
Nevermind i saw the whole thing, Welcome aboard guys (and girl :) )

So i guess the matter of Pidgeot and Fearow is done?
And what have you decided about Arbok,Sandslash and Raichu?

Edit again:
Why does Wigglytuff has Huge power?

Golden Warrior March 21st, 2014 3:21 PM

Well, Wigglytuff doesn't have the greatest attack, so Huge Power makes sense to me. It has a fine Physical movepool too. Also, that's the Mega Wigglytuff, so that is also a thing. It would make a great mixed sweeper it looks like to me.

Mega Clefable getting fur coat with that defense? That seems like it'd be really OP. o_O

Other than that, all of these seem like really great ideas. I've never actually worked with Google Documents before as I'm more used to Dropbox, but I'll see if I can't learn my way around this.

Blastin'Tyruntz March 21st, 2014 3:25 PM

Warrior, me too, Fading tree here introduced me to the magical thing called google docs.
I believe everyone tried to do editing today? I really think that's nice that we are working as a team and lowering down the pressure from Nick.

Zorogami March 21st, 2014 4:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Golden Warrior (Post 8158552)
Mega Clefable getting fur coat with that defense? That seems like it'd be really OP. o_O

I think this is everyone's opinion but DJtikis, who really wants to see it happen :P
But it really is way to OP, unless you give clefable incredibly low SP Def...like reeaaallyyy low


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