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Zorogami March 21st, 2014 5:00 AM

I agree on Butterfree getting Serene Grace, but i think Mega-Arbok should get some other type of ability. Maybe something like "Vemon Fangs" which gives all "biting" moves a 20% chance of poisoning the target?? Also, i cant open up the doc files while at work apparently, so ill have to wait to get home -.- im sorry

Blastin'Tyruntz March 21st, 2014 5:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Zorogami (Post 8157554)
I agree on Butterfree getting Serene Grace, but i think Mega-Arbok should get some other type of ability. Maybe something like "Vemon Fangs" which gives all "biting" moves a 20% chance of poisoning the target?? Also, i cant open up the doc files while at work apparently, so ill have to wait to get home -.- im sorry

Alright,no pressure man.
When all is said and done, we'll move to 25-48 right?
Another suggestion: Remove the Fairy type from Pidgeot. and the Fightng type from Fearow. I mean, why would you even put Fairy type on Pidgeot?

Zorogami March 21st, 2014 5:14 AM

Sounds good to me. And the Arbok thing was just an idea, we can still discuss it!

I would say to remove those 2 types as well, dont seem that fitting to me

Fading Tree March 21st, 2014 7:13 AM

I'm willing to make Butterfree and Beautifly Bug/Fairy

Butterfree: Bug/Flying
Megafree: Bug/Psychic

Should these mons get a base form retype or only in the mega?
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Pidgeot ... Normal/Flying? ... In all reality we made Mega Pidgeot Fairy/Flying 'out of love' and gave it Pixelate to make use of its new typing. (also to give an alternative to Togekiss) ... I dont know any other bird that could be part fairy. (other than swanna but that is staying Water/Flying as of now)

Fearow was made by Djtiki
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Mega Arbok ability
Venomous ... +1 Poison moves ... I like the sound of that
Intimidate
Tough Jaw ... All bite moves have +50% dmg
Vampire ... all bite moves restore 50% health from damage (they become drain punch)
.....the typing Poison/Dark with the ability Vampire would be great. Poison Fang / Crunch would be great stab with ice fang for coverage.

thanks cro for pointing the stuff out :)

for fearow talk to Tiki first. I guess we had it in mind fearow would be more of a fighting in our game (Pokemon U council).

Blastin'Tyruntz March 21st, 2014 7:23 AM

Okay. I can agree on Fearow now that i've reconsidered it.
For Pidgeot i still believe he should stay Normal\Flying or make it Flying\Normal would be interesting.

And i think Butterfree should be base retyped to Bug\Psychic, if we are already at it.

Zorogami March 21st, 2014 7:59 AM

I guess Fearow being Flying/Fighting is okay, although he doesnt look much like it. Id rather give Braviary that typing...
Also, i wouldnt just give Pidgeot the Fairy type because there is no better match. Its not like we have to retype every Pokemon for the sake of re-typing or making every possible type combo available, at least thats my opinion. If you really want to give another flying type the fairy type as well, i would go with Chatot or Swablu for example.
I can see Mega-Arbok getting the "Vampire" Ability, but 50% may be a bit OP??

Fading Tree March 21st, 2014 8:32 AM

Biting move inflicts damage, and up to 50% of the damage dealt to the target is restored to the user as HP. If this attack deals 1 HP of damage, 1 HP will be restored to the user.
--stolen from Drain punch.
I dont think it is too op.
Swablu/Altaria fairy/dragon has been mentioned before

Zoro point noted*
normal flying bird again.

classiccartoonsftw March 21st, 2014 8:38 AM

Pidgeot should stay Normal/Flying IMO, because it's the original regional bird. I don't really care if Fearow stays Normal/Flying or gains the Fighting type, but either way, we do need to set the two apart. Pidgeot could be bulkier than Fearow, whereas Fearow could be faster and stronger.

As for Mega Arbok, I agree with the Venom Fangs idea.

Zorogami March 21st, 2014 8:39 AM

I guess it wouldnt be too OP then if it works just like drain punch

Blastin'Tyruntz March 21st, 2014 8:43 AM

Vampire on Arbok is just so he can stand his own in battles.
Venomous can be Sevipers' ability along with aboost when we get there.

Also, now that we moved onto 25-49, vote about these matters too:

1. Raichu was voted to have 1 mega evolution, but because he is mixed attacker (110 both physical and special attack) i did 2 stat changes for the possible mega: Physical one and Special one. The BST, you'll notice he has the same speed, but only the abilities and the spread is changed:

Mega Raichu-Physical
Ability-Motor Drive
Stats-
HP 60 \ ATK 145 \ DEF 80 \ SpA 110 \ SpD 100 \ Spe 130 (total 625 BST)

Mega Raichu-Special
Ability-Lightningrod
Stats-
HP 60 \ ATK 110 \ DEF 100 \ SpA 145 \ SpD 80 \ Spe 130 (total 625 BST)

2. Mega-Sandslash gains Rock type and the following,yes or no:
Ability- Sand Claws (my ability-all slashing moves become ground type,so he gets STAB on them)
Stats-
HP 80 \ ATK 120 \ DEF 120 \ SpA 45 \ SpD 85 \ Spe 120 (total 570 BST)

So the matters at hand are:
a.Mega Pidgeot
b.Mega Fearow
c.Mega Arbok (ability only)
d.Which mega Raichu to pick.
e.New mega Sandslash (stats and ability),agreeing or not.

Have a nice day!

Zorogami March 21st, 2014 8:48 AM

Seviper getting Venom Fangs sounds good, but we will get to that.

I like both the Megas for Raichu, so whatever gets most votes i would say

Mega-Sandlash: I like everything but the added Rock-Type. I would leave him as Ground only. The stat spread is nice

As for the matters at hand, here are my opinions:
a. Flying/Normal
b. Flying/Normal or Fighting
c. Vampire
d. Fine with both, but i prefer the SP. ATT one
e. Yes to all but Rock typing

Blastin'Tyruntz March 21st, 2014 9:03 AM

It's not Venom fangs, it's venomous (+1 priority)
The other ability is Vampire (works like a poison type drain punch)

Zorogami March 21st, 2014 9:07 AM

Aw sorry didnt pay attention, works as well though

Blastin'Tyruntz March 21st, 2014 9:10 AM

Yeah it does.I need votes from Fading tree,Classic,Tiki,Amurder,Azire and TobyJoey, so i can go through them and PM them to Fading.

classiccartoonsftw March 21st, 2014 9:17 AM

Mega Sandslash shouldn't get the Rock typing. That'll make it super vulnerable to Water and Grass attacks. If you don't believe me, look at Golem, Rhydon, and Rhyperior.

Also, I don't like the idea of Sand Claws taking away the Dark typing of Night Slash. I'd give Mega Sandslash the ability Tough Claws. That'll not only power up its Slashing moves, but also other contact moves like X-Scissor.

Blastin'Tyruntz March 21st, 2014 9:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classiccartoonsftw (Post 8157932)
Mega Sandslash shouldn't get the Rock typing. That'll make it super vulnerable to Water and Grass attacks. If you don't believe me, look at Golem, Rhydon, and Rhyperior.

Also, I don't like the idea of Sand Claws taking away the Dark typing of Night Slash. I'd give Mega Sandslash the ability Tough Claws. That'll not only power up its Slashing moves, but also other contact moves like X-Scissor.

X-scissor is a slashing move,actually. But okay.
What do you say about Raichu?

Fading Tree March 21st, 2014 9:23 AM

a.normal/flying
b.normal/fighting
c.Mega Arbok (Vampire)
d. 60 / 160 / 70 / 115 / 85 / 135 or 60 / 115 / 85 / 160 / 70 / 135
e.mega Sandslash (pure ground, no complaint in the stat distribution) I'll get back to you on the ability. I need time to think. I'll compare it to normalize sounds like a good ability but it sounds not as well.
I'll leave the mega ability up to debate for now. by defualt it's sand claws for now.
Sand Veil could we get another ability (since Sand Veil is banned in most forms of competitive play? Rough Skin for normal sandslash but what should sandschrew get?)

classiccartoonsftw March 21st, 2014 9:24 AM

About Venomous and Venom Fangs, why don't we make it that Venom Fangs gives +1 priority on fang attacks and Venomous gives all fang attacks a 20% chance to poison the target, and let it stack with Poison Fang's poisoning chance?

Either that, or we could apply both effects to Venom Fangs instead.

Blastin'Tyruntz March 21st, 2014 9:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classiccartoonsftw (Post 8157951)
About Venomous and Venom Fangs, why don't we make it that Venom Fangs gives +1 priority on fang attacks and Venomous gives all fang attacks a 20% chance to poison the target, and let it stack with Poison Fang's poisoning chance?

Either that, or we could apply both effects to Venom Fangs instead.

Again,there is no ability called venom fangs. :)
Now, i need your vote on Mega Raichu, so have a looksy.

And Fading, did i do the stat spread wrong or you suggest otherwise?

Fading Tree March 21st, 2014 9:38 AM

Cro I was giving a suggestion for mega raichu based off of your spread ^w^
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@ClassicCartoons I like the ability you came up with. I decided to rename it snake bit if you're cool with that?
Snake Bite - gives +1 priority on fang attacks and Venomous gives all fang attacks a 20% chance to poison the target. All Fangmoves have a 30% chance of inflicting status. It would suck to have the paralyzes or burn be negelagated by a quick poison :p but It fits more with snakes how they quickly bite ;D

Zorogami March 21st, 2014 9:42 AM

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Originally Posted by KillerCroCohen (Post 8157955)
Again,there is no ability called venom fangs. :)

To be fair, there is, first post of this page...i came up with it :P

Fading Tree March 21st, 2014 9:50 AM

Zoro
Vampire or Snake Bite for Mega Arbok?
--you can rework snake bite a little bit //You started it, ClassicCartoons brought it back up.

classiccartoonsftw March 21st, 2014 9:53 AM

@Fading Tree
It's okay if you want Snake Bite, but only if you change Venomous to Venom Fangs.

Zorogami March 21st, 2014 10:00 AM

Hmm not sure, im feeling Vampire is the cooler ability though

Shrew March 21st, 2014 10:04 AM

I'm really interested in being part of this project. I like to think of ways to improve pokemon constantly on a daily basis. Could I join? :)

In regards to Sand Claws, I think this could be a boost to Sandslash if it were to either (1) give a slashing moves an increase in power, such that they're stronger than Earthquake, or (2) hit pokemon with levitate/flying-typing for neutral damage which Earthquake otherwise could not.


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