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Hiatus March 13th, 2014 9:51 PM

Ho-Oh and Lugia
 
In HeartGold and SoulSilver, we were able to capture Ho-Oh and Lugia; two of the most well-known legendaries out there. In HG, you were able to encounter Ho-Oh first, and Lugia later on. In SS, though, it was the other way around. Before running into them, you first had to take down all eight gym leaders of Johto, and defeat Kimono girls over at Dance Studio. If you win against these girls, they will give you either Rainbow or Silver Wing, depending on the version of your game.

Lugia was in Whirl Islands, and you had to go deep inside in order to find it. As for HO-Oh, you were required to go through Bell Tower. Once you're done, Kimono girls would approach you and do some dancing to summon these Pokémon. Anyway, so, what's your opinion on this experience? Did you enjoy going through all this, or did you not? Before defeating Pokémon League, which of these did you wind up capturing--Lugia or Ho-Oh? How difficult was it? :o

Sheep March 18th, 2014 12:04 PM

Going through the Bell Tower was a roooyal pain and I don't want to do it again. :( I'm a collector so I had to go back and get each item there, too, which only slowed the process down aaaa. The paths were very forgettable to me so I always ended up taking at least one wrong turn along the way.

..but being able to fight Ho-Oh and listen to its amazing battle music was worth it in the end.

mangamusicfan March 18th, 2014 1:33 PM

Ho-Oh Whas the first one for me.
I didn't find it that hard, If you grind much and take some good items with you it's possible.

Dark Charizard X March 21st, 2014 8:56 PM

I'm good with Lugia. I preferred the Whirl Islands over the Bell Tower. Mainly due to Lugia entrance before the battle.

Hikamaru March 22nd, 2014 4:32 AM

I caught Lugia, because I was playing SoulSilver obviously. It did take me ages to try and find the entrance of Whirl Islands that led to it though, so confused I had to consult to a guide, but I was proud for capturing it in the end.

serpenter March 22nd, 2014 4:37 AM

I loved the build up to ho-oh. It just seems so grand and majestic - I love it. The ritual, the constant lore drip-fed to you as you advance through the game, the tower and the mythology between it and the legendary dogs, and that awe-inspiring battle theme to top it all off. Its just so well done! The only legend that comes close would be giratina in platinum.

I mean, of all event pokemon, Ho-oh just seems like the one who is most deserving to be called "Legendary".

Judge Mandolore Shepard March 22nd, 2014 12:36 PM

Since I was playing Soulsilver, Lugia was the first of the two for me. I recall it was somewhat ok or anti-climatic. Mainly because I just threw my Master Ball.

Aeroblast March 22nd, 2014 3:57 PM

It was refreshing to go through the puzzles again to get to the mascot legendaries.

Pokemon_Fangirl March 24th, 2014 4:56 PM

I prefer Lugia, but story wise I consider Ho-Oh to be the "main" legendary of the game; it's connected to legendary cats, has the most myths about it, and Morty was practically obsessed with seeing it.

I just find it so annoying how the games force you to meet them instead of being optional in like in the original games. I don't use the "banned" legendaries on my teams and prefer to capture them after I've beaten the story mode.

Gulpin March 25th, 2014 4:36 PM

I really enjoyed the detail put into the legendary capturing experience in these games. I personally prefer going through the Bell Tower just because it is more straightforward, but I like Lugia and the scenery when catching it better. One complaint I do have is that you are required to go through the process.. It can be kind of frustrating when playing through a challenge.

Evening March 25th, 2014 7:13 PM

I played Gold, and you can see which of the two was my first.
Climbing the Bell Tower and capturing Ho-oh, there's only one word to describe it: NOSTALGIC.

Zorogami March 26th, 2014 3:41 PM

I enjoyed going through the "mini-quests" to capture these legends.
My first one was Ho-Oh, who i love for his typing and especially its design. That little animation where he comes down flying: simply awesome!!

Elements1 March 26th, 2014 8:50 PM

Caught Lugia as I was playing SoulSilver but it was awesome!! The animations, and the music are simply amazing and can't be described any other way! Loved it!

shyheim April 18th, 2014 7:19 AM

I believe Lugia is better. It can take out ho-oh with water and even electric attacks it can learn. Plus Lugia looks cooler and has its own movie, basically.

LavenderTownGhost April 28th, 2014 6:52 AM

I like Ho-oh. The 3D scene where it flies down is so beautiful, and the Kimono Girls' ritual fits really well with that scene. The amazing battle music is just the cherry on top. I captured Ho-oh with almost no problems.

LetsPlayALoveGame April 29th, 2014 5:31 PM

I picked up HG, and I told myself repeatedly that I wasn't gonna use the Master Ball on Ho-oh. I was really sick that week and tired af by the time I reached him, so I ended up breaking that promise.

Pepperton May 27th, 2014 9:27 PM

Playing SoulSilver, I had an intention to capture Lugia at the beginning of the game, but I had various lapses of time where I didn't play the game at all, resulting in it taking at least a month before I eventually defeated the Champion of Johto. At that point, I lost any motivation I previously had in catching Lugia, and forgot about the whole thing. Later on, though, I decided to go through what it took to tame the beast, and although the Whirl Islands proved to be an annoyance, I finally captured him, and proceeded to never use him in battle afterwards. :]

Universe May 28th, 2014 1:09 AM

I can't remember much about my Whirl Islands experience but I do remember having an easy time sweeping the Kimono Girls. Eeveelutions aren't exactly the hardest thing in the world to defeat, and I'm pretty sure I out-leveled them anyway.

But I do have a nice story involving the Lugia capture.

A friend of mine was over at my house hanging out with me while I was goofing around in the cave with Lugia. I decided it might be fun to soft reset in front of Lugia a few times just for fun, having gotten a strange feeling that told me to do it once I finished the animation of Lugia's encounter. So at about the 9th reset (I was gonna stop at 10), I was looking over at my friend and busy talking with her as I went to talk to Lugia, not expecting anything whatsoever.

Next thing I know I hear that ever so familiar tingle sound upon encounter. Turn to look and there's a pink Lugia staring me in the face.

http://pldh.net/media/pokemon/gen4/hgss_shiny/249.png

I almost screamed. The disbelief was like no other. I seriously thought my game glitched or something. I have never ever in all my years of shiny hunting had a shiny Pokemon come up that quickly and it was completely unexpected. You bet I caught that sucker, too!

What a great moment that was for me. <3

Never did catch Ho-Oh I don't think. Wasn't very interested.
Perhaps I'll go back and shiny hunt for that one too so I can have a matching duo. :D

giradialkia May 28th, 2014 2:39 AM

I bought Heart Gold, so Ho-oh was my first encounter (and even though I originally played Silver, he was still my first encounter there, too). To this day, the Whirl Islands remain an annoying mystery to me; compared to pretty much every other Pokémon game, at least, where I just know all areas like the back of my hand, the Whirl Islands remain the one place that's new to me in every playthrough.

Ho-oh was cool to fight the first time. I knew I had a problem when I was a few levels below it, though, when it came to eventually reaching the League.

So I caught it, as per tradition, in an Ultra Ball (and it took a stupid long time, too), and used it in my party. I like Ho-Oh over Lugia, to be honest - Lugia is deceptively not-Water type, and that's always irritated me a bit. Granted, I like the fact that they don't have any advantages over one another, but considering its counterpart (Ho-Oh) is part Fire type, and also the fact that it lives in a cave, far below sea level, it might've been cool for Lugia to be Water-Flying, rather than Psychic-Flying.

Scotash! June 13th, 2014 10:48 AM

I bought heartgold as Ho-Oh is my number 2 behind Mewtwo, but I have to say I prefer the Lugia encounter/entrance a lot better. The way it came out of the waterfall is amazingly well animated. Although Ho-Oh coming from the sky to sit a top the bell tower is cool, I hated the going through the bell tower part of it. It was frustrating to say the least.

Both at great, but Ho-Ohs my guy. lol!

Sapphire Dragon June 24th, 2014 2:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mario (Post 8272733)
A friend of mine was over at my house hanging out with me while I was goofing around in the cave with Lugia. I decided it might be fun to soft reset in front of Lugia a few times just for fun, having gotten a strange feeling that told me to do it once I finished the animation of Lugia's encounter. So at about the 9th reset (I was gonna stop at 10), I was looking over at my friend and busy talking with her as I went to talk to Lugia, not expecting anything whatsoever.

Next thing I know I hear that ever so familiar tingle sound upon encounter. Turn to look and there's a pink Lugia staring me in the face.

[awesome picture]

I almost screamed. The disbelief was like no other. I seriously thought my game glitched or something. I have never ever in all my years of shiny hunting had a shiny Pokemon come up that quickly and it was completely unexpected. You bet I caught that sucker, too!

What a great moment that was for me. <3

That really was amazing! Congrats! :)

I liked SS and the animation for Lugia, but something in me wishes that he would've been swimming in the water as per usual, like in the original Silver. It looked kind of flashy to me, and I liked the fact that he was completely in solitude originally, quietly resting in the cave. The addition of the monk right above the stairwell that leads down to the cave, which now has a waterfall coming through it, just seemed too different. Too much noise and too much company.

I'm probably being too picky, but... I just loved the simplicity. XD

7ohn June 27th, 2014 12:10 AM

Heartgold had the better Pokemon, so I ultimately got ho-oh first.

Jaysfinest1 June 29th, 2014 12:37 AM

frigin just got done with bell tower. GAH is all i can do

Tetra July 1st, 2014 2:00 PM

Ho-Oh. Just amazing. The Bell Tower messes with your head, but you'll get the hang of it, and you'll reach the top. And the animation for the Kimono Girl dance and the bells. Just beautiful. Also mentioning when Ho-Oh comes down haha. His battle music is probably the most amazing I've heard, especially with the restrictions DS games held.

Lugia was pretty cool too! It leaps out of the water, if I'm correct? And it's battle theme was more action-like, but it didn't have the same feel for me like Ho-Oh. But it's got a bigger signature place, the Whirl Islands <3~

Raging Umbreon July 30th, 2014 8:14 PM

I bought Soul Silver so I ended up catching Lugia first.

I Hate the Bell Tower and all those warp panels. Makes it tricky to get all the items.

When I caught Lugia it was with ALOT of Great Ball. It tooks so many soft resets to finaly catch him. I wanted to save my Master Ball for Entei and Raikou.

Eventualy I bought Heart Gold and caught Ho Oh in it as well. Because I'm such a completionist I cought Lugia in H/G and Ho Oh in S/S after I got the Rainbow and Silver Wing in Pewter City.

Pendraflare July 31st, 2014 4:21 AM

When I played through Heart Gold a long time ago, Ho-Oh was rather difficult to take, but I caught it and ended up using it on my team. It's a cool event that happens in the story, neat cutscene and rad music too. So yeah, I like it.

But in my Wedlocke, my Quagsire 2HKO'ed it with Waterfall after using Yawn, it didn't use Sunny Day. Wasn't too tough then, but had it used Sunny Day it could've gotten bad.

XtinaIsMeLuvinWWE August 3rd, 2014 6:15 AM

I have Soul Silver so it was Lugia for me :)


I really liked the whole experience actually - in Silver I wasn't overly keen on the Whirl Islands (basically anything in a cave confused me too much back then lol) so I didn't always make the effort to pursue Lugia, but I really liked how they (the Whirl Islands) looked in Soul Silver, and with the animation of Lugia appearing and the atmosphere created by the Kimono Girls it made the whole experience very special :)


I've still to catch Ho-Oh actually, I might go back and do that what with everyone on here saying how it's worth it when you finally master the Bell Tower lol :)

Stormman August 4th, 2014 11:08 PM

I was enjoying Soulsilver, Lugia was the first of the two for viprunescape.com. I remember it was somewhat ok or anti-climatic. Mainly because I just used my Expert Football.I just discover it so frustrating how the activities power you to fulfill them instead of being optionally available in like in the unique activities. I don't use the "banned" legendaries on my groups and want to catch them after I've defeated the tale method.

Hungryboy180 August 6th, 2014 1:06 PM

Lugia was my first. It was so confusing going through Whirl islands.

Nakasu August 6th, 2014 5:26 PM

I had HeartGold, and i agree that Ho-Oh was a difficult catch. Took me about 50 Ultra balls, then a timer ball. The music is really good though. The Ho-Oh battle music is still one of my favorite Legendary battle themes.

Altairis August 8th, 2014 2:51 AM

I don't remember Ho-Oh being that hard to catch, but it wasn't significantly easy so I guess maybe like 20 Ultra Balls? I don't even consider that difficult considering it took me 99+ on Emerald to get Rayquaza :P

I played SoulSilver later and I really dislike Whirl Islands, only just because I had cave areas not for any real reason haha. The area Lugia is in is pretty cool though.

zaneburk9 August 8th, 2014 8:46 PM

Ho-Oh was tons of fun to encounter because it's my favorite legendary overall and the battle music is phenomenal.

Radiam August 8th, 2014 8:57 PM

I caught Lugia first because I had Pokemon Soul Silver first. Let me tell you, I found it insanely hard to navigate through the Whirl Islands. I was probably trying to get to Lugia for a whole hour. Wish it was a little easier to be honest, but it's worth it in the end because I was able to get to Lugia. I also liked how Lugia was near a waterfall, it looks really cool to be honest. Looked really soothing, and my favorite color is blue. I'm a fan of the theme that Lugia has in these games, it's really intense, which is what I like. It was particularly easy to catch Lugia for the first time, only because I used a Master Ball. On my second play though, I did use something other than that, and it wasn't the hardest thing to get, but not the easiest either. I'm not sure how many Dusk Balls I went through, but I'm pretty sure it was around 30. I like Lugia over Ho-oh, but that's just my biased opinion.

Before I talk about my encounter with Ho-oh, I really like the outside of the tower. It's colorful and filled with Autumn leaves, it's really pretty.

I was able to reach Ho-oh a lot easier than Lugia. The tower was actually a lot easier to navigate through. Getting up to Ho-oh, the scenery was still really nice. Ho-oh's battle theme is the better of the two in this round of Ho-oh vs. Lugia. The Japanese style suits Ho-oh just too well. Like Lugia, I used my Master Ball the first time I played through Pokemon Heart Gold, so I can't really say it was difficult. Second play-through though was very easy. I used one Quick Ball and I caught it. It was amazing to have the feeling of catching a legendary in a Quick Ball, I have no clue why.

CJoE August 21st, 2014 5:48 AM

Lugia is much more easier to get.. Getting into the Bell Tower makes my brain twitch..i already caught Ho-Oh in another version so i don't need tiring myself getting into the bell tower..

Wicked3DS August 21st, 2014 6:46 AM

In playing through HeartGold a couple times, I didn't find either too hard to catch, I think I only had to reset maybe once total. They just didn't give me such a hard time. Guess I got lucky :D

curiousnathan August 22nd, 2014 7:04 PM

Ho-oh for nostalgic reasons. I played Gold as a kid and bought HeartGold so definitely Ho-Oh. Lugia is still pretty badass too, though.

XtinaIsMeLuvinWWE August 24th, 2014 1:33 PM

Update: I eventually did go back to catch Ho-Oh, but I was SO over-prepared it wasn't even funny lol xD I went in armed with 70 Dusk Balls and 82 Ultra Balls cause I'd never attempted to catch a level 70 Pokémon before and didn't know what to expect, especially considering the nightmare that the legendary birds gave me.


Anyways, it took a grand total... of 5 Dusk Balls http://ftp.pokecommunity.com/images/templates/smilies/cerulean/17.%20disbelief.gif I couldn't believe it lol I'd had to face the Elite Four more times than I care to remember with an Amulet Coin to afford all those pokéballs lol xD

dragon__tamer August 26th, 2014 7:54 AM

i have played soul silver because i like lugia a lot
because its like cool and like a cool dragon:)

MarcEddy September 14th, 2014 3:56 PM

used a masterball on ho-oh

didn't get to hear the theme

Kelton2 September 15th, 2014 10:29 AM

I actually got HG because I didn't know you could get both in each version and I like Ho-Oh a lot better (then again I like Kyogre over Groudon and Xaernas over Yvetal)
so I got Ho-Oh first.


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