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Sonata April 12th, 2014 4:11 AM

Video games can also change your system of belief, outlook on life, they teach about morals, consequences, some games have practical alchemy and lockpicking and other side skills, there's a lot that games can have to offer if the mind is open to listening.

Satoshi Ookami April 13th, 2014 1:41 AM

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Originally Posted by O'aka XXIII (Post 8194728)
Video games can also change your system of belief, outlook on life, they teach about morals, consequences, some games have practical alchemy and lockpicking and other side skills, there's a lot that games can have to offer if the mind is open to listening.

Wait, wait... alchemy? I don't want to bash my favorite science but isn't alchemy kinda obsolete in this age?

Raine April 13th, 2014 2:34 PM

Hm, based on the previous responses, I wouldn't necessarily call video games "educational" in the sense that they provide us with additional knowledge that we may or may not have possessed originally, but rather they increase our mentalities. Like other members have mentioned, decision making, problem solving, etc. are all traits that are attributed to our cognitive processes, and I think that's the major benefit from video games. Of course there will be those individuals who argue video games lead to violence, but essentially, putting the content aside, the minuscule details and workings of video games I believe actually help us.

Sonata April 13th, 2014 5:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Satoshi Ookami (Post 8196123)
Wait, wait... alchemy? I don't want to bash my favorite science but isn't alchemy kinda obsolete in this age?

Traditional medicine sometimes involves the transmutation of natural substances, using pharmacological or a combination of pharmacological and spiritual techniques. In Ayurveda the samskaras are claimed to transform heavy metals and toxic herbs in a way that removes their toxicity. These processes are actively used to the present day.

Satoshi Ookami April 14th, 2014 1:17 AM

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Originally Posted by O'aka XXIII (Post 8197221)
Traditional medicine sometimes involves the transmutation of natural substances, using pharmacological or a combination of pharmacological and spiritual techniques. In Ayurveda the samskaras are claimed to transform heavy metals and toxic herbs in a way that removes their toxicity. These processes are actively used to the present day.

I don't deny that, but can it still be considered true alchemy with the pursuit of Ruby Prism/Sage Stone?

Oryx April 14th, 2014 5:50 PM

Video games are effective not because they're more educational than anything else in particular, but because they manage to get a lot more in - it's like microtransactions. Spending a dollar on a gambling pack in a cash shop is, on its face, less than the 60 dollars you'd spend on a game, but if you end up buying 75 of those packs looking for the item you want the game company ends up with more money. While you may not learn English as fast as when you read a book, a person may be able to stand playing 5 hours of a video game and only 1 hour of reading, which means in the end they learn more even if it's "less educational".

Chocolate™ April 17th, 2014 12:42 AM

There are those games like COD which have pointless shooting but they also teach somethings to the younger players. For examples the thing about the Tungsten rods in Ghosts.

But don't talk about those lame educational games. Nobody's going to play them just because they know it's supposed to be educational.

CliCliW April 17th, 2014 3:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanille Sky (Post 8197009)
Hm, based on the previous responses, I wouldn't necessarily call video games "educational" in the sense that they provide us with additional knowledge that we may or may not have possessed originally, but rather they increase our mentalities. Like other members have mentioned, decision making, problem solving, etc. are all traits that are attributed to our cognitive processes, and I think that's the major benefit from video games. Of course there will be those individuals who argue video games lead to violence, but essentially, putting the content aside, the minuscule details and workings of video games I believe actually help us.

Basically, this is exactly what I'd be inclined to say. I see games not as being educational in the common sense of the word, but more boosting cognitive processes. Like, games can't teach you how to solve a problem exactly, but they facilitate the ability to let you solve it in a safe environment. I'm thinking more about games like Catherine and Portal here, where Puzzle-Solving is at the heart of it. If you mess up, you can try again without any real negative consequences. Some games like that encourage "outside the box" ways of thinking, which can enhance decision making and creativity, but they don't teach you how to do something.

I think the best thing about learning through games is the trial and error idea.

Take Mario. "Oh, I'll run this way, look at that funny brown mushroom, what happens if I walk into- oh. I guess that's wrong. I'll jump over it." *Accidentally lands on it and kills it* "Oh, I can kinda fight them". (because lets face it, be it Mario or Halo, you do have an approach like this!)

I like how games inspire creativity though, like Little Big Planet, Portal, Happy Wheels, even COD:WaW, where you make your own levels and platforms for others to play. I do think that they can facilitate more creative thinking, and do cause people to get more hands on in games.

I want to point out that I like what someone mentioned about Minecraft and resource management: That's a pretty good point! :)

finalrayne April 17th, 2014 4:09 AM

Depends on the game but most games help improve hand eye coordination and help with problem solving skills. Games like assassins creed teach you some of the worlds history while throwing in some fiction most people can tell the difference on what actually took place in the era and what didn't but the areas you explore can kind of tell you what it generally looked like back in the day. I guess it is all a matter of opinion I've gained a wider vernacular from video games than I would in actual life.

Fernbutter April 17th, 2014 7:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyrul (Post 8157798)
Eh, Hit and miss. I believe it helps in some fields.

Mostly this, when it's there, it's usually really helpful in a lot of ways and can help improve so much, then when it isn't there it's just random headshotting BS.


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