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The Base-Stat-Total Limit Challenge!
Alrighty, I don't know if this has been done before but I haven't seen it on the forum, so here is the BST challenge! Essentially, the rule is that you are not permitted to use any Pokemon with more than 500 BST in your playthrough (500 is allowed however), at any time. The full list of banned Pokemon is as follows:
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As fate would have it, all NFE Pokemon are allowed with the exception of Porygon2 (yes, even Rhydon). Note that as all Pokemon in RBY have much lower BST values due to the singular Special stat, the above challenge will ignore RBY. RBY Rules: Since a couple of people have requested it, I have added up each Pokemon's BST in the first generation by doubling their Special stat (thereby giving them an effective Sp Def stat to add to their BSTs). Due to the stat changes of GSC, some RBY Pokemon are legal that are not in later games (eg. Snorlax), and vice-versa (eg. Alakazam). Here is the full list of bans in Red, Blue and Yellow if you wish to do this challenge in one of those games: Spoiler:
There we have it! You could combine this with a Nuzlocke to make it extra-difficult, or as a standalone challenge. If you grab an everstone in your challenge, that could be particularly useful to stop things like 2nd-stage Starters or Vigoroth from evolving and becoming illegal. Sign up and I'll add you to the list, just say your username, the game you are playing through, and any additional rules you wish to impose on yourself (such as Nuzlocke rules, etc etc). Current Challengers: Spoiler:
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---------- I'll start off, doing a stat-limit playthrough of Ruby! I'll post my first bit of progress soon. Special thanks to Jak for the approval! |
Username: KoboraX
Game: Normally, I'd start with Red, but since Gen 1 is banned, I'll start with Silver Extra Rules: Togetic Solo run. I was planning to do Furret, but I've never used Togetic in Gen 2 before, so I want to give it a shot. |
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---------- Name: HeroesAndCons Game: Ruby Extra Rules: - Nuzlocke standard rules, with one exception - if the Pokemon I encounter is illegal, or would evolve by level to an illegal Pokemon, I can disregard it and look for a Pokemon that would be suitable; I can only do this once per route, however. - Using the Universal Randomiser, I have turned all Trade evolutions into Level evolutions, though the likelihood of this being necessary in Ruby is pretty low. Quote:
Here's Part 2 of my run. For anyone who wants to do their own BST-limit challenge, remember to check what is banned or not banned in the OP so you don't possess an illegal Pokemon on your team. Quote:
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Hmm...since Gen 1 "Special" doubled for both Sp. Atk and Sp. Def, you could in theory just double the special stat when calculating BST, couldn't you? I just like having the Gen 1 option if I can =D
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Plus in RBY you can literally blast through the entire game with any decent psychic type, including Hypno, Starmie or the aforementioned Alakazam - all of which would be legal in this challenge. There would be no challenge unless I additionally banned Psychic types, which would leave you with a choice of about 15 fully evolved Pokemon in the whole game. |
What I'm saying though is calculate it as if the Special stat just counted twice-for example Alakazam effectively had a 135 base Sp. Atk and Sp. Def in RBY, which essentially gave it a BST of 540 back then. And Hypno really had a total of 525 so it couldn't be used either.
But its really not a big deal, and would be pretty weird now that I think about it. Pretty much every physically attacking pokemon (looking at you, Snorlax and Machamp) had serious issues due to no special defense in that generation, and any specially-oriented pokemon was crazy powerful. Even Gyarados had a beastly Sp. Attack back then, haha. |
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---------- On a separate note, here's Part 3 of my challenge! Quote:
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Would it be possible to do RBY with the Special stat counting double toward BST?
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Once my Black cart arrives from Amazon, I will be doing the challenge simultaneously on Black/White.
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Finally got started on Silver. So far, I'm up to Azalea Town, about to head into Ilex Forest.
http://img.pokemondb.net/sprites/silver/normal/togepi.png Eggman (Togepi) M Lv. 22 @ Nothing Moves: Swift, Sweet Kiss, Mud-Slap, Metronome |
My Black cart is estimated to arrive on Friday, so I'll start White on Wednesday and alternate days for a while.
(Interesting note: no Gen V mons have exactly 500 BST. Seismitoad is the highest-BST legal Pokemon in B/W at 499 BST.) |
Username: GucciMeme
Game: HeartGold Challenge: Single Question: Can I hack in certain pokemon I want if they are regularly found in-game? For example, Heracross is very difficult to find, so am I allowed to put it in the game? Planned team for reference: Heracross Rhydon Dragonair Lanturn Scizor Fearow |
Well, Johto is done. Just gotta do Kanto now, and the run is complete, but with how overleveled I am, I don't think getting through Kanto will be that hard :P
http://img.pokemondb.net/sprites/silver/normal/togetic.png Eggman (Togetic) M Lv. 66 @ Amulet Coin Moves: Swift, Shadow Ball, Mud-Slap, Fly |
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Team Zero (Final) http://img.pokemondb.net/sprites/silver/normal/togetic.png Eggman (Togetic) M Lv. 81 @ Amulet Coin Final Stats: 238/125/186/192/232/132 Moves: Swift, Shadow Ball, Mud-Slap, Fly |
Ah, finally completed the exam I was worried about most, so time for a break I think :) Well, finally got the chance to update to Part 6, so here goes!
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FINISHED with HeartGold!
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That's a wrap! I'll show everyone how my team looked at the end: Spoiler:
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Username: Luigi-San
Game: Ruby Challenge: Single Planned Team: http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/9/9b/Spr_3r_292.png http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/7/7a/Spr_3r_219.png http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/9/91/Spr_3r_334.pnghttp://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/2/29/Spr_3r_332.png http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/0/07/Spr_3r_340.png http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/3/34/Spr_3r_308.png |
Looks like an interesting challenge, I'd like to try and undertake it.
Username: Relica Game: Platinum Extra Rules: Lowering the total BST cap to 450 Oh boy, I can't wait to use a bunch of babies and bugs! Turns out there was a lot less bug than I thought there was going to be. Run over, that was a bit too easy sadly. http://i.imgur.com/s3i1Fpz.png Spoiler:
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Username: Kostucha
Game: Crystal Extra Rules: Lowering the total BST cap to 180 Yes! I'm going to solo Crystal with Sunkern xD. It MUST be fun :D. |
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