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TheUltimateG.J April 13th, 2014 6:02 PM

The strongest one???
 
Hello friends you all might have played Pokemon Heart Gold and soul silver and we know these games features fight from gym leaders of 16 gyms from johto and Kanto so which gym leader you found too hardest to win?

Khoshi April 13th, 2014 7:23 PM

Jasmine. Steel-types have crazy Defense, and sadly my only special attackers in my team, Feraligatr and Ampharos, were weak to Magneton and were resisted respectively. I had to catch and grind my Growlithe to oblivion to stand a change against her.

Puddle April 13th, 2014 7:34 PM

Whitney's Miltank will always be the death of me.

Hikamaru April 13th, 2014 7:39 PM

It was definitely Blue. My team kept getting walloped by him it forced me to have to transfer my prized Lv100 Swampert from Ruby, who then proceeded to be the badass girl she is and destroy him.

Apollo April 13th, 2014 7:41 PM

Whitney, probably. Now that I think about it, most of Johto's gym leaders were hard for me in a way or another.

Zaakeil April 13th, 2014 9:54 PM

Claire was unfortunately difficult for me because I solo leveled my Typhlosion rather than creating a team... :L
A close second though was Blue, who smacked me pretty hard with his mixed team. Not the best experience, but I did manage to level up quite a few times on him.

Guardian April 14th, 2014 8:58 AM

Ugh, I remember when I started a battle with Whitney, and I was like, "Lol, that's just a silly cow, it cant be that hard" 20 rollouts later: "Whatever"

IeUaN_08 April 14th, 2014 10:20 AM

I got stuck on Whitney too for ages! Biut without doubt is has to be Blue!

Hiatus April 14th, 2014 1:43 PM

For me, it was Claire. When I went up against her, all my Pokémon were under-leveled, so she was able to defeat me quite instantly. To get her beaten, I had to do a lot of extra training. It was a pretty frustrating task, honestly. ;o; Whitney was quite tough, too; her Milktank was just impossible to take down, and just as when you're about to, it'd always recover itself with Milk Drink.

Pendraflare April 14th, 2014 3:27 PM

For me it'd be either Clair or Blue. Clair because that Kingdra has not only well rounded stats that are all above average, and very powerful attacks (nothing under 135 power), but only one weakness that you probably don't have at that point.

Blue because of his diversity and tactics such as Trick Room with Exeggutor for Rhydon and Machamp, and a Dragon Dance Gyarados thrown in there along with a high level Pidgeot and Arcanine. No one Pokémon of his spells lolwtf, but as a whole it's not the most pleasant of a time.

Danny0317 April 14th, 2014 6:03 PM

Ugh ♥♥♥♥ Bugsy's Scyther. I started playing SS again a few days ago. What the hell were they thinking?!?!
"Hey let's add a Pokemon with a 500 BST and high attack stat, AND STAB U-Turn for the second gym! What's the worst that can happen?"

It took some serious grinding and item abusing to beat

Tek April 14th, 2014 7:00 PM

In the old days (Gen II), Bugsy's Scyther, Whitney's Miltank, Morty's Gengar and Jasmine's Steelix were all pretty challenging. Whitney more so than the others because I simply could never figure out a good strategy to deal with Miltank.

When I played HG, though, I didn't have much of a problem with any of them. Golbat, Heracross, Trapinch, and Rapidash assured my victory at each gym, respectively. Although Morty's Gengar did have me on the ropes, the poor success rate of Hypnosis gave me the only opening I needed. Guess I got a bit lucky on that one.

Now, when I get my Japanese SS I might be singing a different tune. The team I'm planning on taking all the way to Mt. Silver is Ekans, Psyduck, Vulpix, and Meowth. Hopefully with excessive use of the disruptive moves Disable, Glare, Screech, Hypnosis, Confuse ray, Will-o-wisp, and Flash, I should be good to go.

She_Delphox April 15th, 2014 12:24 AM

I definitely always had some problems defeating Whitney's Miltank .__. She kinda always was a challenge early in the game. But, I love the Nidoran lines so most of the time I caught a Nidoran in the National Park to KO those Normal-types with Double Kick :3
Clair's Dragon-type Pokemon could be a challenge too sometimes, but when I chose Totodile at the beginning instead of my usual Cyndaquil-choice, I learned him Ice Punch (back in the good old days) :3 Also, every Friday you could catch a wild Lapras in Union Cave <3 Ice-types are great against Dragons so that gave me some more advantages.

praj.pran April 15th, 2014 7:00 PM

for me it was water type gym leader as I only level up fire type it took me lot of time to defeat water type starmie was huge problem and its speed

Jayster23 April 15th, 2014 9:18 PM

In the GSC days it would have been Whitney with her Miltank and rollout absolutely dominating my Quilava but in HG/SS it would have been Claire with her Kingdra as i used to teach Typhlosion Thunder Punch to take out Kingdra and since they weren't available at the Department Store in Goldenrod anymore i struggled a tad

Sonata April 15th, 2014 11:20 PM

Whitney is the devil. She kills me unless I'm OP.

Brendino April 15th, 2014 11:40 PM

I've never had an issue with Whitney or her Miltank, but I always seem to go into battle with Clair unprepared, and have either lost or come close to it on numerous occasions. Her first couple of Pokemon aren't all that hard to dispose of, but her Kingdra was awful. It has boosted critical hits with its ability, it only has one weakness, and when you think you've finally got it on the ropes, it eats its Sitrus Berry.

curiousnathan April 16th, 2014 1:49 AM

Whitney was a big pain in the backside especially with Miltank. Claire was also troublesome with her her Kingdra. But overall, the Johto Gym Leaders weren't super hard, but they provided a fun challenge. :]

Captain Barnacle April 16th, 2014 9:31 AM

Sabrina always caused alot of trouble for my team.

Abby April 16th, 2014 10:02 AM

In my ss nuzlocke at jasmine I only had vaporeon fearow and a lv 17 wheezing.
Geodude deals with the first 3 gyms so.

KorpiklaaniVodka April 16th, 2014 11:48 AM

Definitely Sabrina in the rematch. That retarded Wobbuffet was a huge pain with CounterCoat, especially when backed by Full Restores.

PSNGhost April 16th, 2014 3:17 PM

Whitney's Miltank + Nuzlocke = R.I.P. my sanity.

Abhishek April 21st, 2014 3:05 AM

It Was Whitneys Miltank It Alwaya Use Attract +Rollout to Defeat Me

Boured April 22nd, 2014 11:03 AM

Almost everyone can agree that Whitney's miltank is by far the only challenge I had

Elswood April 22nd, 2014 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayster23 (Post 8200163)
In the GSC days it would have been Whitney with her Miltank and rollout absolutely dominating my Quilava but in HG/SS it would have been Claire with her Kingdra as i used to teach Typhlosion Thunder Punch to take out Kingdra and since they weren't available at the Department Store in Goldenrod anymore i struggled a tad

Hurray! A fellow PWD Fan.

Ontopic: I really hated Whitney and her Miltank. More so back in gen II. And Claire's Kingdra. That sucker had some really high power, and to top it off, she always used a hyper potion on that thing ..

Kikaito plush April 24th, 2014 7:52 AM

I had trouble with Whitney's Clefairy as it keep spamming Attact on my team.

Harmonious Fusion April 24th, 2014 10:23 AM

I think the only leaders I had any problems with were Blue and Chuck. I went through the whole game with the Sinjoh Ruins Dialga, so the normal threats like Whitney could hardly touch me.

Chuck, however, had type advantages over Dialga and my other main Pokemon, Typhlosion. By the time I reached Blue, I had relied so heavily on Dialga that the rest of my team was significantly underleveled, and I didn't get coverage on the entirety of his mixed team.

LavenderTownGhost April 25th, 2014 2:42 PM

Whitney is obvious. Her Miltank for that point in the game is uncool. However, my vote goes to Clair because of her Kingdra. Which was even more uncool.

Radiam April 26th, 2014 11:17 AM

In terms of the Pokemon that I used in the game, Chuck or Whitney would be the hardest Gym Leaders for me in Johto. It was always just how strong Chuck's Pokemon were, and there aren't very many good places to train your Pokemon so I was always very weak to the point of him beating the pulp out of me. Whitney is just plain unfair. That Miltank always kept spamming that Milk Drink move or something. The Clefairy was very annoying as well because my Pokemon always got attracted to her Clefairy, which really could destroy my whole team, since I can never find female Pokemon.

LetsPlayALoveGame April 30th, 2014 8:28 AM

Whitney wasn't all that hard for me honestly. My Sandslash usually destroys Miltank with Dig. I'd say my toughest time was Clair since it's near-impossible to get Dragon moves by that point in the game.

DracoBio May 22nd, 2014 10:58 AM

Clair.Her Kingdra is strong and it takes me about 4 battles before I defeat her.
~Sorry for the bad English.

Altairis May 22nd, 2014 6:10 PM

I didn't have a huge amount of trouble with Whitney, probably because we share the name and she went easy on me ;) I have no idea why, haha.

Well, yesterday it took me over 20 minutes to beat Pryce in one battle because it came down to his Dewgong and my Quilava. He kept using Rest and didn't have any Water-type moves so he couldn't kill me. >.> I only had 2 Fire-type moves, Swift, and Quick Attack, so it took quite a while for me to wear him down.

Pepperton May 22nd, 2014 9:20 PM

If Sneasel was obtainable in HGSS pre-Kanto, this answer would be different, but, I didn't like any of the Ice-types available before Blackthorn City, and none of my Pokemon knew Ice Beam, Blizzard, and none could take a strong Dragon-type with manageable health left. Needless to say, I wasn't very well prepared heading into Clair's gym. It took me a long, long time to get past that part of the game. I think I spent a week or two without playing it out of pure frustration. n__n;


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