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Zekent April 27th, 2014 6:05 AM

My Competitive Team
 
Hi. I woke up this morning and suddenly I had an urge to start competitive battling but then I thought that I'm actually running to a battlefield with random pokemon that I like having and actually not thinking about it. So what I want is help from you guys so that I can learn more about these things. Like: Things to keep in mind, Meta(what is good and what is not), items to be held.

Hope you guys can help me.

Nah April 27th, 2014 3:09 PM

PokeCommunity has some good resources here: http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=305535#resources

And this page is helpful as well: http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?499840-A-basic-guide-to-EVs-IVs-and-natures

If you have any more (specific) questions, feel free to ask in this thread or the Battle Center.

PlatinumDude April 27th, 2014 11:43 PM

To add, this thread has the current lists on what to expect in OU play: http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/the-current-smogon-tier-lists.3504634/

Zekent May 8th, 2014 1:27 AM

Ok, since I already have this thread I'd put it here anyway.
My dream team will consist of :
Gengar
Infernape
Dragonite
Tyranitar
Greninja
Mawile

Now, I need help with movesets and EV training like for Gengar what should i EV train him on? stuff like that. Pokemon suggestions would be great. Oh yeah and put Items too :D

PlatinumDude May 8th, 2014 6:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zekent (Post 8237529)
Ok, since I already have this thread I'd put it here anyway.
My dream team will consist of :
Gengar
Infernape
Dragonite
Tyranitar
Greninja
Mawile

Now, I need help with movesets and EV training like for Gengar what should i EV train him on? stuff like that. Pokemon suggestions would be great. Oh yeah and put Items too :D

I don't think Tyranitar and Dragonite should be on the same team together, as Sand Stream will chip away at Dragonite's health, making Multiscale useless (Multiscale only works when Dragonite is at full health).

Gengar:
-Shadow Ball
-Sludge Bomb
-Focus Blast/Thunderbolt
-Destiny Bond
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb

or
-Substitute
-Shadow Ball
-Will-o-Wisp
-Disable/Sludge Bomb/Focus Blast/Taunt
Nature: Timid
EVs: 28 HP/148 SAtk/80 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Black Sludge

Infernape:
-Fire Blast/Flare Blitz
-Close Combat
-Thunder Punch
-Grass Knot/Hidden Power (Ice)/Stone Edge
Nature: Hasty/Naive
EVs: 188 Atk/68 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Iron Fist

Dragonite:
-Dragon Dance
-Outrage/Dragon Claw
-Earthquake
-Extreme Speed
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Lum Berry/Weakness Policy
Ability: Multiscale

or
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-Extreme Speed
-Fire Punch/Dragon Claw
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Choice Band
Ability: Multiscale

or
-Dragon Claw
-Earthquake
-Extreme Speed
-Roost
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 216 HP/64 Atk/228 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Multiscale

Greninja:
-Hydro Pump
-Ice Beam
-Extrasensory
-Dark Pulse/Hidden Power (Grass/Fire)/Grass Knot/Spikes
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Focus Sash
Ability: Protean

Mawile:
-Play Rough
-Sucker Punch
-Iron Head/Knock off/Focus Punch/Fire Fang
-Swords Dance/Substitute
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 132 HP/252 Atk/124 Spe
Item: Mawilite
Ability: Intimidate

A substitute for Tyranitar is Mandibuzz, Skarmory or Excadrill, as both have access to hazard-clearing moves in Defog or Rapid Spin, respectively:

Mandibuzz:
-Foul Play
-Defog
-Roost
-Knock Off/Toxic/Whirlwind
Nature: Impish/Bold
EVs: 248 HP/252 Def/8 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Overcoat

Skarmory:
-Whirlwind
-Roost
-Spikes/Stealth Rock/Defog
-Brave Bird/Defog
Nature: Impish/Bold
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef or 252 HP/16 Def/240 SDef
Item: Leftovers/Rocky Helmet
Ability: Sturdy

Excadrill:
-Earthquake
-Iron Head
-Rapid Spin
-Rock Slide/Stealth Rock
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Leftovers/Air Balloon
Ability: Mold Breaker

or
-Earthquake
-Iron Head
-Rock Slide
-Rapid Spin
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe (Choice Scarf) or 120 HP/136 Atk/252 SDef (Assault Vest; Adamant only)
Item: Choice Scarf/Assault Vest
Ability: Mold Breaker

Zekent May 13th, 2014 10:22 AM

Thank you very much, Platinum Dude for this very detailed explanation. I tried them and they all worked great. However, I seem to be having so much luck with the Stalling Gliscor with Toxic, Sub, Protect, and EQ. I also got myself a Scizor and is also workig very well since this fairy type is a new thing to me. Added questions are: Scizorite or Life Orb? Mega Evolve Mawile or Scizor? Also, I think I'll keep Tyranitar. My Infernape has Poison Jab, should I ge another move or should I stick with it? Thanks again for the feedback. And sorry for late reply.

Nah May 13th, 2014 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zekent (Post 8248757)
Thank you very much, Platinum Dude for this very detailed explanation. I tried them and they all worked great. However, I seem to be having so much luck with the Stalling Gliscor with Toxic, Sub, Protect, and EQ. I also got myself a Scizor and is also workig very well since this fairy type is a new thing to me. Added questions are: Scizorite or Life Orb? Mega Evolve Mawile or Scizor? Also, I think I'll keep Tyranitar. My Infernape has Poison Jab, should I ge another move or should I stick with it? Thanks again for the feedback. And sorry for late reply.

That's because SubToxic Gliscor is ridiculous. Infernape doesn't need Poison Jab because its Fire typing makes it neutral to Fairy attacks; STAB Flare Blitz hits 'em hard enough anyway. You'll want Life Orb (or Leftovers if running the bulky SD set) on Scizor because Mawile needs its mega stone in order to not suck.

Zekent May 13th, 2014 10:42 AM

Thank you btw for that wonderul Gligar. I did see a vid on Utube that scizor just needs the xtra bulk on his mega to set up for his SD. I'll fix my Infernape since I accidentally captured some mons with Infer. being in my team. It got messed up on EVs. Thanks again.

Zekent May 14th, 2014 11:01 PM

Bump. I got a Shiny 5IV Eevee (thanks RNC) and I really dont know what to evolve it to. Anysuggestions would be appreciated.

Redingard May 15th, 2014 6:22 PM

Sylveon and Umberon are popular stallers, boasting incredible Sp. Def (Umberon also has good Def) and reliable restoration, with good movepools to chip away at the enemy. Espeon and Jolteon are notable sweepers as well. However, I can't really recommend any good sets, as I haven't gotten them. Looking up good sets on Smogon will give you some (and it's also where PD gets his info). The other evolutions aren't exactly notable, but whatever floats yer boat.

Nah May 16th, 2014 5:46 AM

I agree that Espeon and Sylveon (and Umbreon to a lesser extent) are good choices for Eeveelutions. Not so much Jolteon. It's not so boss anymore because of its limited movepool and the weather nerf. It's best niche, while a little predictable, is as a fast Specs Thunder spammer. That doesn't work so well anymore.

Vaporeon is another good choice. It has decent mixed bulk and healing options:

-Vaporeon w/Leftovers
Nature: Bold
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP, 248 Defense, 8 Sp.Defense
Moves: Scald, Wish, Protect, Toxic/Heal Bell

And sets for Sylvie:
-Sylveon w/Leftovers
Nature: Bold
Ability: Pixilate
EVs: 252 HP, 244 Defense, 12 Speed
Moves: Hyper Voice, Wish, Protect, Heal Bell/Toxic

or

-Sylveon w/Leftovers
Nature: Modest
Ability: Pixilate
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Sp.Attack, 4 Defense
Moves: Hyper Voice, Shadow Ball, Calm Mind, Hidden Power Fire or Ground/Psyshock

Zekent May 16th, 2014 6:11 AM

Thank you Both for ur suggestions.


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