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I suppose they could release it for some home-console like Wii U, and have it resemble games such as XD: Gale of Darkness, and if it does turn out to be the case, then I personally wouldn't have any trouble adapting, as I've already played those type of Pokémon games before. It'd be pretty interesting as well, to explore Kanto in a different graphical environment. I'm not sure if same could be said for those who haven't, though.
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A Pokemon Yellow remake sounds like it should allow for us to go to all regions like Ash did...so I think that one should be saved until the end...
A Blue remake seems more likely. I don't think they'll do it this generation as the Kanto legends are all available in XY minus Mew which may end up being in OrAs. As are the starters. Maybe next generation. Even then I'll prefer a future Kanto game that takes place at the same time as B2W2XY, or even just BW seeing how we've seen Kanto in the first two of the four different main points of the timeline. |
Don't flame at me for this. I find the Kanto mainland to be absolutely stale. The only place which is rather interesting is the Seafoam Islands. The rest of the region just seems really boring with trainers and stuff.
It is the region that started it all, but sadly Kanto isn't even as exciting as Unova (which is one region I terribly dislike). Hence, I say no to another Red/Blue or Yellow remake. We don't need more Kanto. It's overhyped like crazy. The games are fun, but Kanto appeared just too many times. |
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The idea of having Rowan there with the Sinnoh starters is a FANTASTIC idea. I think it's better than the Sevii Islands idea actually. It fits in the timeline and it may give us some insight into what he found when he visited. |
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I would definitely love a 3D remake of Red and Blue eventually, but with the release of X and Y, they needn't be hasty I feel. |
I would dislike a bare remake of fr/lg or r/b. However a remake where they change the dungeons, routes, cities, maybe even the storyline a bit (but not to a point where it becomes a diffrent game) and make the trainers having diffrent Pokemon and higher difficulty etc. would sound good to me, they could call it pokemion thunder yellow and release it in the 20th year anniversary.
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Shouldn't it technically be Red and 'Green'? Since Green is the original second version, plus it was the one that was chosen to get remade back in Gen III. GF may want to keep the whole "peaceful" meaning of 'Green' (which is said to be the reason they didn't go with WaterBlue) for future re-remakes.
If they are made then I foresee people wanting reremakes of Gold and Silver... I'll prefer it be WaterBlue, MindCrystal (my own idea of what a possible Crystal remake could be called), and DeltaEmerald to be remade later down the road as the pair versions are already getting/got their shots. |
The only thing Id like added on the remakes are the inclusion of the rocket executives present in HG/SS. It would make sense to include them and maybe add a bit more backstory if possible. Also Silver could make a cameo.
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I could imagine a lot of characters making cameo appearances, and not just Silver, as it seemed to have become a regular thing every since generation four.
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Silver was mentioned? I played firered a billion times but I havent spotted that lol. Somebody provide me a photo or link please :D
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A rocket Grunt mistook Red as Silver but later said that Giovanni's son has red hair so he couldn't be (funny how his name is Red and all that...) So Silver appear in the reremakes wouldn't be so far-fetched. |
Ah I see, I woosh through what the grunts say so I guess I missed it or something lol
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If he does appear, however, I can't imagine us to be able to battle against the guy, because timeline-wise, he's yet to start his Pokémon journey.
He first gets his starter by stealing from Professor Elm in GSC, which takes place a couple of years after those events in Red, Blue, and Green, if I'm not mistaken. |
YES! I recently made a thread about this very thing before realizing that this was already made!
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I think seeing Silver in a Red/Blue remake would be pretty cool. It would be cool to see what he was like before Giovanni's disappearance.
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Preschoolers have Pokemon, so I think that young Silver would be able to. And even if it weren't legal, his dad is Giovanni, so I doubt it would matter much.
I think I'll avoid discussing my lack of faith in this becoming an actual game, and just talk about what would be cool about them. Firstly, the Vs Seeker being brought back would be pretty friggin sweet, I must say. |
What i'd really like to see that I haven't seen nintendo or pokemon games in general is a Phone/Tablet port or upgraded version etc. I'm assuming its an agreement they have with nintendo or something related. Not an emulated version but a built from the ground up code base for a tablet or phone.
Buuut I'd also buy a remake with 6 gen enhancements for any generation prior to generation 6, i really like what they've done here. Mega evolution is the least used feature for me though. but everything else is nice :p |
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Also, Kanto is the least linear region in the series, how can it be bad? It would probably only need a better postgame to keep it fresh. Of course it's not as flashy as Hoenn, or Sinnoh, but that's because it's mostly an urban region. I don't think we'll get any new games in Kanto, but we can never have enough fanservice of it. Without Kanto, there would be no Pokémon. |
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Plus Hoenn for example is getting plenty of attention this gen. They got a remake and a **** ton of Megas. Right now I even believe it's the region with the most Megas. IMO that's not really deserved compared to Kanto for example, since Kanto has bigger importance in the series than Hoenn. |
Kanto hasn't been in a game in 4 years, and hasn't been the primary focus of a game in now 10 years (North American 10th anniversary was the 9th). It hasn't been overdone, so I say we give it another look after OR/AS and the third X/Y installment run their courses - it would probably not happen until 2016/17, which would make the gap even further since we saw Kanto.
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Kanto has appeared in four straight generations, and it still can be accessed on modern consoles. To me, the region still feels very 'new' and has no need for a remake. Yes it is the region that started it all, but it gets really boring without much new content. What I hope is the return of Kanto in Gen VII with an all new storyline with new characters, but a Kanto remake now instead of a Hoenn remake? I will disapprove. |
I'd love to see Kanto in the graphical style of the current games and not necessarily a R/B remake. A brand new adventure would actually be pretty cool now that I think about it.
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I'm not sure how many people would like seeing that, but I personally would. |
Hmm, I'm not opposed to the idea, but honestly if I'm playing a Red/Blue remake, I'm going to want some nostalgia value, which would be lost there. I think for me I would always be trying to think of it like Red/Blue even if it wasn't trying to be and it just wouldn't work; call it an unfortunate bias? I think it's a cool concept, but I'd have to get past my own nostalgia lenses.
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Yet ANOTHER Kanto remake. I know they are running out of ideas, they had been since 2004. But it's a pretty bad excuse for not coming up with something new.
We want complete new regions, not rehashing old ones. Period. |
I think this would be pretty good, though personally I'd like to see Gen VI be the last generation, and have all previous regions get remade in their own games, even going as far as to split Kanto and Johto into two games, with full new plotlines and everything. And have the Unova region encompass the locations from White/Black and B2/W2 in one game.
Also in regards to the Silver talk from above, about the legality of training, you can have your own pokemon at any age, but your journey for gyms/contests/any competitive style challenge requires you to be at least 10 years old. |
I don't ever want to see Kanto ever again and this is from someone who started when Kanto was the only region in 1998. I'm more interested in Diamond/Pearl remakes/Pokemon Z and 7th gen coming.
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I personally think people are being a bit harsh for not wanting Kanto ever again. You wouldn't be on this forum without it, ya know. This coming from the biggest Genwunner.
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I love gen 1, its the generation that started my love for pokemon and it would be great to see it in the x/y engine. However i wouldn't like it to be a straight remake and i think it could be enhanced if after kanto you went to johto for a remade gen 2! Kind of like gold/silver but the other way round
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I was playing Smash 64 the other day and specifically the Saffron City stage in the game had me wondering about a possible 3D version of Kanto, and really with the way everything is laid out in it, I can't see how it would translate into 3D. Part of the beauty of the early pokemon games for me was playing the game on the primitive game boy looking at all the simple sprite work and design, but then imagining it in full detail in your minds eye. Because everything was kept so basic and minimalist it really let the imagination go wild. Even at the very start of the game in Pallet town there were those divider things at the edge of the town as kids we'd talk about what was beyond there and if or how you could get beyond them. In a fully realised 3D Kanto you'd lose a lot of those touches and it just wouldn't feel like the same place you'd dreamed up all those years ago.
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I agree. Though, right now, there could possibly be more newer fans than those of whom played RBY and FRLG originally, so if they'd like to keep both sides satisfied, I suppose they'll likely have to find a good middle-ground.
What I believe would be nice if they could perhaps implement a way for us to swap graphics style between classic (ones from FireRed, LeafGreen, Ruby, Sapphire, and so forth) and advanced (XY-style). Not exactly sure how tough it'd be when it actually comes to incorporating--could imagine it to be a little more difficult than average, since they would have to develop two versions of each tile, over-world, map, and other things--but I could imagine it to be worth it. Plus, if they do manage to create such a feature, they could use it in future games at any time. |
I wish I can see the day when they make one massive game were they incorporate all the regions and for once let us be able to catch all the Pokémon. I am not saying find all of them in the grass but I loved how in Gen 3 you had to solve all these puzzles to catch the regis. A fan can dream can't he?
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^I totally agree with you, but I guess they won't let that happen 'cause they want everyone to trade to get all the pokemon. But I'd love to see a remake of the originals. That would indeed be awesome.
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Sure, maybe they'll make it easier to fill your PokéDex, but that's it. You will never travel back to the other regions, that's what remakes are for. This topic has been discussed since Gen 3, it's never going to happen. |
how about dp remakes next?
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Diamond and Pearl remakes definitely won't happen until at least Nintendo's next generation of handheld's is released. Whenever the true successor to the 3DS is released you can probably expect to receive Sinnoh remakes within whatever generation of Pokémon launches on that system.
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I'd like to see them remake every generation in three dimensions. Including the first, because I actually haven't played that one as much. I've barely gone through Generation I, but I have gone through Generation II Kanto a lot. Still, it would be nice and I wouldn't disapprove. I'd probably get it. And hopefully after that, they'd go ahead and remake Generation II, IV, and V. I'd especially like those more than the first generation.
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This might be a little off-topic, but I feel that it would take a while for us to see Johto make appearance again in main-series game (as a base region, where storyline takes place), as we've had it very recently in HeartGold and SoulSilver. I suppose same could be applied for Kanto, but one thing that differentiates this region from former, I believe, is it was only a post-game location, and did not play much of a major part.
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Please not a remake. The games were so bad storywise. Storyline made absolutely no sense, you could skip like 5 Gym Badges, there was no real plan on where to go to, you just did something that felt right, and the region was overall boring.
Make a sequel, show us how much Kanto has changed in like, 4 years? Show us how the characters have changed, which gym leaders have retired, what has become of Cinnabar Island, Red who finally returned and Giovanni who is a good guy now. But if Kanto ever reappears in a non-remake, then make a game or games in which you can travel to al the regions. Sounds like a good 25 year anniversary to me. |
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The thing with a Kanto sequel is that Gold/Silver are supposed to be sequels in their own right, so would this take place before, during, or after Gold/Silver? And then, would their stories be separate or together? This is quite an eye-popping idea.
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I agree, them using Lumiose City graphics and whatnot would be pretty cool. I've always loved Castelia from Black and White due to how unique and city-like it seemed, but they've managed to impress me (as well as a lot of others, I'm sure) even further with Lumiose.
Though, I could imagine them improving and changing some things before incorporating, so that things don't closely resemble. If they're creating these remakes on a newer generation, I believe they'd be pushing their graphical style more, and with that, things such as buildings, trees, streetlights, and so forth would be looking more dynamic, I feel. If they're planning to make these games sequels rather than remakes, I suppose things could be changed even further, with, as an example, buildings and whatnot being added or removed. |
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Yeah, that would be pretty cool; it'll be nice to be seeing the city through window from a different angles and whatnot, which could perhaps be able to show us some things we weren't seeing before, such as items hidden between trees (hope I'm making sense!).
I'm not sure what their chances are of getting a hold of such an idea, but I'm sure it won't be too tough for them to execute, considering that they've officially moved away from 2D graphics in generation six. |
It would honestly be a great idea especially for the people who never had the change to play those games(Like me -sniffle-) and maybe it would be more facinating in 3D for the newest age since the old graphics wouldn't impress anymore but think of the other side.
If the kanto region would be recreated the old pokemon fans(not all but most) would of may be bored to it since they will see the same pokemon over and over again which might make them to lose their impress and it would be like the Game Freak is staying on the old fashion and probably don't have any ideas of new pokemon so they keep updating the old games which might be boring to watch and play the same plot and characters all the time being. On the other side they have been already making Alpha Shapphire and Omega Ruby which will be released soon and this is already an old remake which will allow alot of people having the taste of the old and new fashioned pokemon style as the mix of Kanto and Y X generation which will be really interesting and fun but it will be a little bit worrying if they will get to make a 3d remake of Red and Blue because it will put us to think pokemon is remaining out of ideas so there may be no other pokemon generation.And trust meh the 70% of people who enjoy the pokemon series and games out there are already curious for the next generation and the new pokemon and we all are waiting with a small agony to see what other surprises Game Freak is having for us. Maybe because the newest fans might stick better with the new ideas,sadly we can't bring every past games to life because this way we will see older pokemon again and again and it might be awesome sometimes but sometimes it's not.And Pokemon will lose many fans this way if you will think about it,despite how exciting it might be. Imma sorreh if this message sounded non-friendly or rude(or dissapointing),I never had those intentions I am just saying a small opinion on that threadeh. But on the other hand Game freak would do that as a bonus update on the next generation?It would be like even more excited if they will be able to update the older generation with a huge mix of the new ones and there might be a different and more exciting plot to complete! |
I'd say this has some potential now. I remember reading somewhere that the game-origin value for X & Y is 24/25 and Alpha Sapphire & Omega Ruby is 26 and 27 respectively. This means that only two more games can display a pentagon on X/Y (28 & 29) and with the 20th anniversary release of Red & Blue approaching in 2016, it would be a very suitable release in that time frame. It would also mean that Generation VI would last for 3 years, just as Generation V did.
Also to mention the fact that Fire Red & Leaf Green were released two years after Ruby & Sapphire, and two years after 2014 (release of ORAS) would be 2016 (the 20th anniversary). |
It might be neat to have a new remake of Pokemon Red and Blue. A lot of things were planned for Firered and Leafgreen but were cut due to time constraints, like Sevii Isles 8 and 9, and there's a ton of strange things that could be neat for events (Pattern Bush anyone?) But if they try and push Mega Evolution and retcon a bunch of things just for that I probably won't be too happy,
But I do have one request.... Can they PLEASE put Mew under the truck? |
I think it would be really cool to revisit the Kanto region in 3D. At the same time...two remakes in one generation, one of which being a remake of a remake? Doesn't seem likely to me. The idea of a sequel or at least a game that takes place in the Kanto region but at a different point in time with a different story has potential, imo.
I'd just really like to see regions finally get re-visited for once. It's like we only ever have one adventure in a region, and then it just goes stale and we never get to see how the worlds develop or how the region and characters change with the passing of time--that's part of the reason why I loved BW2 and GSC so much. It'd be nice to see them finally start revisiting the regions, especially Kanto :) |
Yep, I second the games being sequels (taking place at a later time) due to all reasons I've stated in my previous posts, haha. Though, most of it is from my own point of view, but am sure many of us could agree.
We've visited Kanto around four times thus far, with two focusing around original plot, and other two being connected with Johto storyline, if you know what I mean. If we're going to get another chance to see this place at some point in future, I believe it would be pretty intriguing to see how Kanto develops itself years after initial RBGY events. |
I don't know if someone already mentioned this idea, but what about a Blue remake on the Wii-U (in stunning HD *drools*) with all 151 Pokémon catchable. It's unlikely, but if they ever will make a main entry Pokemon game on a home console, the Wii-U is the perfect (and only) choice for it thanks to its controller.
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They will never make a main entry Pokémon game on Wii U or any other home console. They already explained why (because Pokémon mean Pocket Monster and so the game has to be portable).
However, seing a BRY remake could be nice, and the fact that there's still two games for Gen VI (see what Hoenn said before), that could be a possibility (but we could also get XY sequels for exemple). If those remakes are made, which is quite possible with the coming of Pokémon Red and Pokémon Green 20th anniversary, however, I wonder what they could add more... |
Normally I would like a remake but each time they make a remake they add in some of the current Gen Pokémon. That's a bit of an issue for me as it completely distorts the the series and the Gen order....I personally wouldn't mind if they made a duo title where they have both the Gen I and II story. Their both heavily interconnected and I rather have it close to the original as possible.
That includes using Kris rather than Lyra. |
No. Red and blue got remakes. On the GBA
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If they do decide to create another Red and Blue remake in future, on whatever console it may be, I believe it would be nice if they were to add more events in Sevii Islands. When it comes to creating remakes, I don't believe they don't have to put much effort into writing scripts, as they already have them available from previous versions (though, I could imagine them to update a few things for compatibility reasons). With that in mind, if they do decide to make new ones, these could turn into "extras," which don't necessarily have to be part of main story-line (post-game, rather--more Sevii Islands content). I hope I'm making a bit of sense here, haha. Though, none of this would matter if they decide to go with sequels, and not remakes.
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Like most of people here said.. If gamefreak develops a game with an updated looking Kanto that has various new important characters, few sidequests, some NPCs that talk about Kalos, Unova etc region.
Orange League, a great story of Legendaries (like in hoenn, sinnoh) etc.. I'd buy the **** out of this game. After all, Kanto is my favourite region. WE NEED A GAME LIKE THIS! |
they could make a 20 year anniversary in which the kid of the original protagonist gets his first pkmn from gary oak and have a new story.
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I can't believe this thread is still going :P
A Pokémon from Gary Oak for Red's son, eh? That sounds pretty awesome. I was just thinking last night how awesome it would be if we got a remake of the original games. They could do a whole lot of different things to shake up the game and make it a brand new experience. |
This is kind of a controversial topic (as I've learned the hard way elsewhere), but here are my thoughts...
Now that OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire are out, Generation 1 is the last Generation to be unavailable on the 3DS, as neither RBY or FRLG can be played on anything newer than a DS Lite (a very obsolete handheld that's only becoming harder to find as time goes on). Furthermore, the games themselves aren't exactly easy to find, either. Being GB/C games, RBY suffer from dead batteries (albeit, not to the extent as GSC) and extremely outdated graphics/mechanics. Even FRLG aren't a whole lot better, lacking all of the graphical and mechanical improvements (as well as Pokémon) that have been added to the games after Gen 3, and since they were created for the most hacked/bootlegged handheld ever, finding a legit copy is an absolute nightmare nowadays. (And, if you find one, get ready to pay a ton of $$$ for it, because old Pokémon games sell for big bucks, nowadays.) Aside from the gameplay/mechanical reasons, there's another valid reason to remake Generation 1 again--The timeline. Aside from the obvious reason of having Fairies and Megas exist in both Hoenn and Gen 1 Kanto (which are supposed to take place at the same time), there are also some HUGE continuity conflicts between Yellow and FRLG in regards to HGSS, as I've explained elsewhere: Quote:
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Much like you said, but a bit of my own personal opinion, I'd really just like to see a special Yellow remake next year. That way the folks that would argue about FRLG being the R/B remakes wouldn't have a reason to complain. Yellow was Red/Blue but in a way... better. The likelihood of this occuring, however, is slim. The reason obviously being that Yellow was supposed to mimic the Anime, and the Anime is so far along that many new fans wouldn't quite understand. I could be completely wrong, however. Needless to say, as much as many people might rage about it, 2015 needs to bring about remakes for Red & Blue, or just Yellow. It'd be a nice 20th anniversary 'gift' to the original Pokemon fans that still play the series, and it'd introduce the new fans into the stories that started it all, brought forward to better technologies for ease of access. |
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Yellow is more of a special instead of a proper third version. FrLg incorperated things from the "proper third version" which was Japanese only, that being blue with the appearance rates and exclusives. It'll be weird to have two pair of remakes in one Gen, especially since all of the Kanto legends and the starters/mascots are available in XY. It'll be better if GF start Gen VII in 2016 (the 20th anniversary) and make the games take place in Kanto or perhaps in what lies north of Kanto and have Kanto for post game. |
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And, they were made for an obsolete handheld with obsolete graphics and mechanics. Hard to believe it, but FRLG didn't even have things like a physical/special split or a real time clock, let alone Fairies and Megas. Do people really expect newer fans who want to experience the first Generation to go hunt down a DS Lite and deal with graphics and mechanics far older than they're used to? Sure, emulators exist, but they're not entirely legal, and they don't have any connectivity with the newer games, so they can't be a solution. And, then, there's the timeline. FRLG don't even take place on the same timeline as the newest games anymore, and just as Paramount isn't rushing to make another spinoff of Star Trek: The Next Generation, Game Freak isn't rushing to continue the storyline of Beta Reality Prime. You can't make a sequel of something that doesn't exist, and as far as GF is concerned, Generation 1 doesn't. A new remake is the only way to go at this point, and a 20th Anniversary Yellow remake (as you suggested) would be the perfect way to do it. Anime references or not, Yellow is more canon than the other two (in regards to GSC), and it *is* a better, more complete game--all three starters, better Gym teams, game versions of the TRio (Who would be a double battle in a remake), following Pikachu (who would have the Light Ball in a remake), etc. Bring it on! Quote:
Yellow, on the other hand, was a true Third Version, in that it altered the plot and added new events and characters, just as Crystal, Emerald, and Platinum would later do for their respective Generations. Just because it took a few cues from the then-popular anime doesn't make it any less canon (or, good, as it's often implied). Now, as to why it's canon in regards to GSC, well, I wrote this at another site: Quote:
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Given Yellow was my first ever GB game (and indeed the first game I ever played), I would love to see a game based on it, or a full-blown enhanced remake, with all the features that have made it into the Generation VI games so far.
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I don't think GF will be able to make the Yellow (and maybe they should add Blue too to make it a pair) remake in time though...as Gen VI seems like it only has two games left according to rumors about the games coding having data to trade to six versions, two being XY, another two apperantly are OrAs, and that only leaves 2 more which are likely Sequels/prequels/dual third versions or Pokemon Z and Delta Emerald. Well I guess they could go with Z and make Thunder Yellow... Anyways it'll be lame as we can get all of the starters and all the pokemon from XY with ORAS filling in the gaps minus Mew...I think it'll be better for Gf to save it for the 25th anniversary in 2021 (which will likely be after DP remakes). Btw FrLg still take place in the same timeline as ORAS except that ORAS is in alternate version of that same time period. Actually one of the few reasons I would support a Yellow remake coming out this generation is that I want to see alternate Kanto in a world where Megas exist without them needing to contradict Gen VII anymore than it already contradicts itself. Well that and I wouldn't mind seeing a Mewtwo versus Mew post game similar to how we had the Delta Episode have Rayquaza Vs. Deoxys. |
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Btw the reason I put DP remakes first is because of the thus far patter/coincidence of the games getting remade every 2 extra years added to the time of the remakes prior with their originals like FrLg had 8 between theirs, and HgSs had 10, and OrAs had 12. So it stands to reason that DP may be 14 (it can't be 8 as this is their 8th, and it very likely won't be 10 as 2016 will be that and we'll likely get Gen VII or Z by then) so 2020 seems like a reasonable time. It's really hard to place another Kanto remake into a time where it'll make sense to have it take place without something else coming before it. |
With how outdated FR/LG are in terms of mechanics (lacking many things such as the Physical/Special split, Fairy Types, a Day/Night cycle, etc...), I think a game returning to Kanto is inevitable. That being said, I'm honestly not sure whether or not I'd want a re-remake or a new game completely that takes place in the Kanto region X amount of years before/after the events of RBY/FRLG.
I think we can all admit that, regardless of how much we liked the Kanto games, that Kanto is pretty lacking as a region when compared to some of the newer ones. And even by Pokemon standards, the plot isn't that good. Obviously, most of the problems with Kanto when compared to other regions come from the fact that it was the first ever region and Game Freak were most likely limited in what they could do by the Gameboy's limitations, but regardless of that, Game Freak will have to make some large changes to Kanto, the plot, and the Pokemon distribution in order to prevent the hypothetical remakes from seeming boring to newer fans of the series to the point where it'll seem like a different game entirely. For this reason I feel that, instead of giving us RBY remakes, they should make a new game that takes place in the Kanto region a certain amount of years after the events of RBY (or have it take place at the same time as the originals but in a different timeline like ORAS). I don't know about you guys, but I really enjoyed Gen 2 / Gen 4 Kanto and (kinda) liked B2/W2 Unova; being able to see how the region had changed was something that I found really interesting and to this day I hope that Game Freak will do something similar with another region. The one complaint that I did have about this though was that after a certain point, the region just felt the same as it was in the previous game due to a rather small time difference (only a few years). So I feel like a sequel/alternate timeline game taking place in Kanto definitely has potential. Hopefully if such games are made, Game Freak does make Kanto more interesting (perhaps the routes near Fuchsia City could be more like the southern part of Sinnoh's route 212, the routes near Lavender Town could have a darker tileset with dead trees or something, the Sevii Islands could have more content in general) as well as add in more postgame content since the Sevii Islands weren't really that great imo. I'd be fine with a remake (perhaps a remake of Yellow instead of one of R/B/FR/LG?) or a new game taking place in Kanto, but I'd honestly prefer the latter. |
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Hello? D/P/PT are all current gen. Granted they aren't in 3D, but neither is HG/SS! FR/LG, like you said, are the only Pokemon games that aren't current. So thank you for actually agreeing with me, and giving me a decent discussion on the topic :D . |
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Based on the pattern you pointed out, the Gen 1 remakes would come out in 2018, which happens to be the 20th anniversary of Yellow's release in Japan (9/12/1998) and Red & Blue's release in North America (9/28/1998). That would be a good time to do it. Quote:
There's nothing stopping them from deepening the storyline and making Kanto more interesting in a remake. Look at what HGSS and ORAS did for their respective games. A remake would be part of a new timeline and on a new handheld, so they wouldn't (and shouldn't) be obligated to make an exact clone of the originals. Quote:
If you don't like Kanto, well, nobody would be forcing you to buy the game. I can't stand Hoenn, myself, but that didn't mean that Gen 3 wasn't in need of remakes. My personal preferences on whether or not a Generation "sucks" don't mean squat. |
Well Gen 3 also includes FrLg (and Emerald), just saying. While Kanto is next to Unova as my least favorite regions (with Hoenn as my fav) I would like to see what they do with it's story line after seeing what they did with RS.
Btw saying FrLg were made for an obsolete console makes it sound like the GBA was already obsolete when the games themselves came out... 2018 won't be a bad time actually. I guess they could start Gen VII on 2016, have the third version/sequels on 2017 or 2019, have Yellow on 2018, have a break and have DP remakes. Or maybe Yellow will be like FrLg were to Emerald in Japan, those three were released in 2004 there. Maybe they could be release a couple of months after the start of Gen VIII which maybe 2018 (btw I just figured how you got this from my pattern...2004 plus 14. Then DP remakes by 2022? and HgSs remakes by 2028?), and have a third version in 2019, and by 2020 DP remakes. Of course if they do that then next will come HgSs remakes as they will eventually have as much issues as the main Kanto games do now...and then we Hoenn fans will want Delta Emerald (I will be way too old though at this rate)...and so on... You know if they go ahead and remake Yellow they should throw in Johto and Hoenn...at least Johto to push keep the tide of another HgSs away for the time being. Since the Yellow was based on the anime they could take cues and add anime stuff to Johto. Essential a Yellow remake will become a tribute to the Original saga of the anime. Also that'll make Sinnoh the most outdated region design wise (well actually it is already as DPP were before HgSs and those had Kanto in them, and now Hoenn which was the former oldest has been remade). |
Kanto remakes of some sort will have to happen at some point, especially with the alternate dimension thing they pulled in OR/AS. Still, though, Game Freak seems to have a problem with keeping the remakes far too close to the originals (FR/LG are the exact same but with a new coat of paint and the addition of the Seviii Islands which...weren't all that exciting, they tried with OR/AS but decided against adding certain things like a better Safari Zone and Gym Leader rematches in favor of keeping it close to R/S), so I'd prefer sequels over remakes if the remakes are going to be nothing but the same old same old but with Mega Evolutions and Fairy types. If people really want to experience the original stories that badly, then they could watch Pokemon Origins (which includes Mega Evolution to a small degree, so that covers that).
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Nitpicky or not, but one thing I didn't like about FRLG and HGSS is how much further apart they were from their respective originals. While RBY and GSC were made for the same handheld and had very similar graphics, FRLG and HGSS were made for different handhelds and had very different graphics. This had the (annoying, IMO) effect of making HGSS feel less like sequels than GSC did, especially with the lack of direct connectivity between the remakes (something the originals also had). So, here's a radical idea--Why not do Yellow and Crystal in the same Gen? Let's treat Gen 2 more like the Gen 1 sequel it was meant to be and have it be the B2W2 to Gen 1's BW. While HGSS isn't anywhere near as outdated as FRLG, it (along with the Unova games) will be as soon as DPP become outdated enough to need remakes, so why not knock out two birds with one stone and ease the remake burden later on? Besides, Yellow and Crystal are both standalone games, and you know how much GF loves to release pairs. Why not do something different and put them together? |
I'm actually sort of hoping for a yellow remake on 3DS instead. Or they could do all 3 but I don't really care otherwise.
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I had a similar idea, but that includes both games in one cartridge. Like how the Kingdom Hearts Hd remakes had two games in one plus a movie. For the game which could be called Pokemon Thunder Crystal it could have us play through Kanto first then have access to the Johto story line. They could spice up Johto's by giving Ho-oh, Lugia, the Beast trio, and the starters Megas. Also maybe a story where Ho-oh and Lugia become a central focus of the plot, at least to the level Suicune was in Crystal, with Suicune of course having the largest role. At the end when you challenge Red/Leaf! he/she could have the team you defeated the E4 with in the Kanto part (with it being updated with every new Hall of Fame.) If you chose Leaf then Red can appear in another area with his usual team but with a Mega of the starter nor picked. Also access to the PWT post game either where the old man is bulding something (yay a world where he actually completes it!) It'll be quite large but the Kanto region model can be reused except for some areas between the two so only Johto and perhaps the Sevii islands will be extra but those are small. I think the New 3DS may be able to handle such a game. Or maybe have it be two cartridges but packed together (initially) as a special for the 20th or 25th anniversary which will be fitting to include both as the series was meant to end with Johto. Now for some things from ORAS to back up eventual Kanto remakes being likely. Someone mentions that a place in Hoenn (Irc it was in Lilycove) reminds him of his hometown. Meanwhile another mentions he hopes Lissia would go visit his home region of Kanto. |
I think everyone would like to see each region (especially their favorite region) on the newest console or handheld, but the next remakes we'll be getting will be Diamond and Pearl.
Truthfully, I would SOOO love to see a Colosseum/XD remake/sequel on the Wii U. I feel like it would really give a little 'umph' to the Gen III nostalgia, since Colosseum was the first story-driven console Pokémon game that we got and it was released sort of alongside Ruby and Sapphire. |
I still feel that if a new game in Kanto comes about, I'd like to have a new adventure in it. Maybe even travel to Johto postgame and reverse what GSC/HGSS did. But I don't feel that any Kanto-focused game it will happen this generation. We'll just have to wait and see on that front. (Besides, a 25 year anniversary would be more fitting imo than 20).
And there's potential for that too, given as mentioned above they'd have to throw in a new typing and mega evolutions now. If it's a remake, then it'd have to have some sort of differences given the ORAS Delta Episode thing (which really places all other games separate from ORAS and XY now). You could also make it a sequel of a ORAS/XY-version RBY by having Professor Blue (he's mentioned in XY) be the one who got back from Kalos and inform you about Mega Evolution. Quote:
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Otherwise, your ideas are good. (I should also note that they could do something similar with the Unova games when they come up for remakes, like a "Grey"/"Grey 2" pair. This simplifies the remake schedule into Gen 1/Gen 2 (2018), Gen 4 (2022), and Gen 5 (2028).) Quote:
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Yellow was a mere anime tie-in, not a proper regular version like Red/Green (Blue being the special version of that generation).
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I would be all for another Kanto remake if they'll do the exact following:
- Expand the Pokedex to 190 as it was originally intended, which includes the cross-gen evos of Kanto's Pokémon. - Revamp the roster lineup of the gym leaders and Elite Four members as a result of the expanded dex, so duplicates from the same line and Pokémon not associated with their type specialty wouldn't be much of an issue. |
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I wouldn't mind an expanded Kanto dex, it's the only one that wasn't expanded in it's remakes. They could give Giovanni Rhyperior, make Mega Nidoking, Steelix, Nidoqueen, Dugtrio (or maybe replace it with Kangaskhan), and maybe Persian if it is a Yellow remake, if not then I guess leave it at 5 (btw what was up with them giving him another Rhyhorn in FrLg when he had a Rhyhorn and a Rhydon in the original RGB). I just realized something important. What will they do with the base behind the game corner? I guess they could make it into a contest hall with Lisia visiting like that person in Hoenn wanted, and then everyone finds out it's run by Team Rocket...no one would suspect that. |
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For that matter, I wouldn't mind seeing Celadon completely redesigned like Mauville was in ORAS. The newer handhelds are capable of so much more than the GB/C and GBA, so I'd like them to take advantage of that. |
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I would love a game arcade. I wanted them to do that for the Mauville Game Corner but alas they did not. I wouldn't mind Celadon being redesigned but I'll also like to see Saffron City be turned into a large Lumiose like Metropolis or larger so that it'll actually look more like the Tokyo it's based off of. |
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As for your Surfing Pikachu example, I'd argue that it's still not the same level as making all Pikachu - or even just your starter one - able to learn Surf or Fly via HM. In that case, you had to buy a spinoff title, and complete challenges in it to boot. That's rather different levels of availability for the move imo. |
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And, no, you can't pretend there's Omega Reality versions of Gens 1 and 2, because those games don't exist, and you can't make a sequel to something that doesn't exist. And, yes, Origins is a version of the Gen 1 story that has Megas, but there are several problems with that: A) it's an anime, not a game, B) it's not game canon (however accurate it is), and C) it doesn't cover Gen 2 or even, the Sevii Islands (which deserve to be acknowledged again and fully fleshed out, IMO). Quote:
(And, BTW, Thunder has been a TM in every Generation, so it's not like it would be gone for good. Personally, I prefer Thunderbolt to either; better accuracy and no recoil.) Quote:
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That's true, they could simply make RGBCSC/FrLgHgSs into lore, but something about that is unappealing. I wouldn't mind a game that takes place in a region north of Kanto and Johto with access to one or the other later on. I guess they could also not make them connected and have someone travel them from afar. Maybe it could take place before the alternate events of Red/Leaf's adventure. Perhaps it could show a player who knows young Lysander, Cynthia, and Sycamore, Cynthia is said in DPP to have had a dex when she was younger so Red may not have been the first dex holder...
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