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urg dont remind me, that would be pretty horrible...
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None of those "badass" Dragons give off a mythical air like Dragonite does, which was what the Dragon type was supposed to be about in the beginning. It was the original "fairytale" type, or so to speak. (Now, all Dragonite needs is a Dragon/Fairy Mega to seal the deal and make things come full circle.) |
Hm I like dratini and dragonair but dragonite was never my type, Also how does a cool dragonair turn into a fat yellow green mini winged european style dragon. now if dragonair had an alternate evo into something like shenlongmon of digimon i would like it. ahem the names azulongmon of course.
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Hey Dragonite is cute...
Speaking of Dragons who did win the best Dragon type contest anyways? I'll like for Gf to remake Yellow but to throw most of the anime references aside to make it more like the other games which weren't as impacted as much by extra canon material (Anime,Mangas, etc.) Now that I think about it the Kanto games have the most extra canon stuff, such as FrLg being the first to take Silver being Giovanni's son be canon (first appeared in the GSC arc of Special/Adventures), and before that there is Yellow and it's relationship with the anime. |
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Out of all the Gens, Gen 1 is the simplest, backstory-wise, so it doesn't surprise me that it's borrowed the most things from other canons. Love them or hate them, both the anime and Adventures fleshed out Kanto far more than the games did. Plus, at the time Yellow came out, the anime and games were VERY intertwined, marketing-wise. Promotional material for the games often depicted Pokémon with their anime art, and Red/Blue and Ash/Gary were often treated as one-in-the-same (the fact that Ash and Gary so strongly resembled Red and Blue's original designs only helped this). The anime was, more or less, seen as an extension of the games rather than a separate universe. This changed starting around Gen 3 and the end of Pokémania. Both Ash and Red got drastic redesigns that made them look more like separate characters, and Blue also got a drastic dye job that made him look a lot less like Gary. Many of the Gym Leaders and E4 Members also got redesigns in FRLG and (especially) HGSS that were drastic departures from their older designs (which most of the anime designs were based on... think Sabrina or the Johto Gym Leaders). It also became more common to see Pokémon depicted with game art instead of anime art (helped by the fact that Gen 3's game art was much higher quality than Gen 1 and 2's). Of course, knowing this, that may lower the chances of Yellow being remade, but on the other hand, the early anime is still VERY nostalgic and iconic for a lot of older fans, so a brand new Yellow would be a real treat for many of them. |
^ On drastic changes between versions don't forget the latest remakes...Tabitha's difference between games make the Red's look identical in comparison (apperantly the Ultimate weapon has some relation to Tabitha being fat...and more character's having tans).
Actually Red's small change in FRLg then Sabrina's bigger change in HGSS then ORAS' more drastic departure should alarm fans for Kanto re-remakes (and Sinnoh remakes)...it's a pattern between remakes who know we may get a short or super tall James...and an older looking Giovanni or even a very sickly looking Giovanni... So I heard this wacky rumor from a youtuber saying Yellow will be remade next year...but for the Wii U...wonder how that would work (there are equally wacky rumors about Gen VII and the Wii U too). |
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In FRLG, the Kanto Gym Leaders (and Lance, to a lesser extent) changed very little, while Lorelei, Bruno, and Agatha got drastic makeovers... Those three also happened to be the only NPCs who didn't have any official art in Gen 1 (outside of Stadium portraits, which depict drastically different designs than they had in FRLG; Lance, in comparison, is much more recognizable). Even fewer characters had full-body art in GSC (for whatever reason), so HGSS brought more drastic redesigns. Eusine and Janine were among the few characters to have complete art in Gen 2, so their outfits saw few changes, while the likes of Pryce, Clair, and Karen (who had little to no official art in GSC) got major makeovers. It's a similar case with ORAS. The Hoenn Gym Leaders and E4 all had complete artwork in RSE, so with a few exceptions, they all looked pretty similar in ORAS. The likes of Courtney, Tabitha, Matt, and Shelly, on the other hand, had zero artwork in RSE, so they all got huge makeovers. After RSE, there aren't many characters left without official art, so I think we'll see fewer drastic redesigns in future remakes. Quote:
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Tbh, I think gen 1 is beyond remake capabilities. There's just too much change that happened during all those generations transitions. What I'd rather like to see is a complete recreation of Kanto. Redesign all the routes, caves and towns, rebalance all the trainers, change all the encounters with wild Pokemon; nobody likes to see Rattata on every route, especially now where we have over 700 other Pokemon to choose from. Recreate the complete story so that you actually see how Team Rocket is doing what they do and add more content to show that they're actually taking actions instead of just being there, waiting to be beat up by a little kid, like in the original games.
Also add exploration elements that are actually explorative; now that there's basically no limit in memory capacities, it gives so many possiblities to hide secrets. Also Mega Venomoth. |
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And, a big YES to the larger Pokédex. Would it be that hard to, at least, give us all of Gen 2 and all of the later pre/evolutions? |
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I think they should do Kanto Remakes Because Pokemon's 20th Anniversary is coming up so it would kinda make sense if they did.
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Sign me up for that now! Yes!
I'd kill for Kanto remakes in the current format. Imagine what they could do with it, Cerulan Cave, Rocket Headquarters etc... |
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It would have to be a yellow remake, and even then I'd be sceptical, just because ever since Yellow Game Freak have steered clear of the anime (remember, the anime is based on the games rather than the other way around). Prime case is FRLG where instead of the Orange Islands Game Freak made up their own Sevii Islands.
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(And a lot of those listed on bulba are kinda iffy. Clair using a Gyarados included - Lance used one too, and it's not red like in the anime. They have an obvious tie and Gyarados is dragon-like, and I honestly can't say that sounds like an actual reference. Or the cinnabar one. 'GSC said Cinnabar was destroy by a volcano. There's a volcano in the anime!' is... really drawing a long bow there. Pokemon Puzzle League meanwhile is unapologetically based on the anime. And a large list are Smash Bros, which is another category in itself.) Being ignorant of the anime I can't say if it would have been worse. I wasn't the greatest fan of the Sevii Islands but I'm not sure the Orange Island would have been necessarily better. |
I'm more than fine with remakes because I like seeing earlier regions with updated mechanics, graphics, and music. But remakes of remakes...I feel like it'd be too much. If they did that, there might be more remakes than games with new adventures coming out.
In order for me to want it, there would have to significant changes that set it apart from RBY and FRLG other than the above mentioned updates, because FRLG did that for its time. Especially since Kanto is my second least favorite region. The only big change I can think of that would make me want the game(s) would be a brand new adventure in Kanto (which wouldn't really be a Red/Blue remake anyway), which I've seen suggested occasionally. |
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I don't see a Kanto remake coming out any time soon, unless it gets shoehorned into X/Y2 or something like that.
It has been included in four straight generations, in remakes in the case of III and IV. The likely targeted fanbase (which are mostly genwunners, look at the numbers) would revolt anyway like they did with FR/LG. DPPt is now becoming the fan favorite, like how RSE was at the time when they got their remakes. And so on. I see more reason why they would remake Gen IV next, and then any subsequent gens along the line if Pokemon manages to live that long, than they would remake Gen I again. An all-generation game (if possible) is probably going to be Gamefreak's last project if it is to happen at all. |
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A new remake should have some sort of mountain or volcano on Cinnabar. Thanks to the Gen 2 games, we know that one is supposed to be there, so why make it suddenly vanish in Gen 1 remakes? And, in addition, I think the volcano should be explorable. Maybe, they could stick a Legendary or something deep in it? |
The only things i want in a Red/Blue remake, and the only things i believe Red/Blue remake will ever need to be enjoyable and still feel fresh, but not distorting of what makes it a remake of the original. After all, the goal is still to introduce new fans and old to the original experience Red/Blue had:
more companionship with your starter Pokemon. Since their on the cover of the games, they should be highlighted more. Just like in Pokemon Yellow, being able to walk with you, see its mood, and perhaps a very small amount of features that help make Pokemon more dynamic. Surfing Pikachu game. Through some form of event, a Pikachu with the surf ability should be added in. More references to Pokemon Gold/Silver....perhaps an episode where you reach Mt silver and suddenly battle Gold (of course with a time gap). If it absolutely needs it, i suppose day/night feature wont hurt. However, i do believe that if their going to put that feature to use, they should add some mini events for it. (i still don't want to see a reshuffled Pokemon roster for each game just for the sake of having nocturnal/diurnal Pokemon, that's not what Pokemon Red/Blue were about). Above all else, an expansion on Mew/Mewtwo story, and of course an expansion/side quest for the legendary birds of Kanto. Eusine seems to be from Kanto, so why not incorporate him in? THINGS I DONT WANT TO SEE: Customization i feel is absolutely unnecessary even for a modern Pokemon game, especially when its about a character who has had a set design and has grown iconic in the Pokemon community. if customization had to be done, i would say that it would be limited to different baseball caps, and shirts. I don't want to see Mega Evolutions, or any specific game mechanics introduced in current gen....and let me clarify this especially, I don't want to see these things within the single player experience of the game. Obviously the game has to be capable of current gen mechanics in order to battle with friends and others, and it makes no sense to make a whole new network just for the remake. However, i don't want those things to be incorporated into the canon of the story (like what Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire did). it doesn't need to be done. I don't want to see redesigned Kanto, Generation 1 kanto looked beautiful and have always imagined what it would look like in 3D. again, whats the point of a remake if they redesign completely just because it appears more modern? |
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If they let us explore it in the time of Gen I, we may need Dive to access its interior. |
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Look at Metroid: Zero Mission (if you haven't played it, do so if you like Metroid). MZM not only updated the graphics to modern standards and redesigned everything to make it feel like a completely new game while retaining many of the basic design concepts of the original Metroid (which is very loose at times), but it also fixed whatever flaws the original had and it added plenty of new features and content, mostly to bring it up to modern standards. This new content ranged from series staples that appeared later on in the series like Speed Boost and Super Missiles to expanding many existing areas and the addition of entirely new areas. |
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