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towg2e November 28th, 2014 5:16 AM

mega evolution
 
hellow ! I search for some hack pokemon where you can obtain mega evo' (a little tired of simple pokemon =/) if some people can tell me well thanks =)

-I found pokemon mega power =) but I think more hack with mega evo' exist , nop ?

Danny0317 November 28th, 2014 7:17 PM

What do you consider being better in a scripted event with unrelated people nearby, lock, or lockall?

Mana November 29th, 2014 4:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Dark Sneasel (Post 8512959)
What do you consider being better in a scripted event with unrelated people nearby, lock, or lockall?

I don't think it matters too much, since the additional sprites don't tend to be the focus. I normally use lockall though just for a bit of additional control over how it looks.

Danny0317 November 29th, 2014 7:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Magic (Post 8513311)
I don't think it matters too much, since the additional sprites don't tend to be the focus. I normally use lockall though just for a bit of additional control over how it looks.

I was thinking about when an event happens, the unimportants gather around to watch it as bystanders.. Does that add to it or just make it worse?

Mana November 29th, 2014 7:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Dark Sneasel (Post 8513421)
I was thinking about when an event happens, the unimportants gather around to watch it as bystanders.. Does that add to it or just make it worse?

I think that would be a nice touch, rather than just a one-on-one meeting that is ignored by the town folk! Nintendo normally do so with random extra NPCs that appear, which is pretty easy as long as the map itself isn't already stuffed with additionals.

So yeah, go for it I say :).

Imafroggy November 29th, 2014 5:08 PM

I don't think this has been done before, but I'm not very good with ASM, and my scripting skills aren't top notch like your guys skills! :)

I don't know why it occurred to me but I don't think any hack has done this either. It's a small little detail but it sounds like a lot of fun!

Wouldn't it be cool to have like a "TV show" type of thing when you talk to the television. Sort of like the Teachy TV only with regular shows. Maybe 4-7 little skits of shows. The shows could maybe change during the day or something... I don't know. Just a thought :)

Trainer 781 December 3rd, 2014 12:21 AM

Pokemon Altair/Sirius, the prequels of Pokemon Vega have been completely translated to English before October 2014. Anyone aware of this?

Just downloaded the translated patch yesterday.

Astraea December 3rd, 2014 1:48 AM

No haven't heard of it, wait checking. I am gonna try it out

Izarinoi:Akira December 12th, 2014 7:25 PM

What's keeping Pokémon ROM hacks in the third generation on the GBA platform? I don't see many DS hacks of Diamond/Pearl/Platinum or HeartGold/SoulSilver or Black (2) and White (2); what's difficult about DS hacking?

Xela December 12th, 2014 7:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Izarinoi:Akira (Post 8530577)
What's keeping Pokémon ROM hacks in the third generation on the GBA platform? I don't see many DS hacks of Diamond/Pearl/Platinum or HeartGold/SoulSilver or Black (2) and White (2); what's difficult about DS hacking?

I believe it's mainly because there isn't enough research done on it and there isn't much to go off on. Meanwhile for the 3rd generation games we've progressed too far to move away from it and there's a lot more you can do there than we can currently do with 4th gen and above hacking. Not to mention that we're not done researching them either.

Izarinoi:Akira December 12th, 2014 8:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexAhnon (Post 8530632)
I believe it's mainly because there isn't enough research done on it and there isn't much to go off on. Meanwhile for the 3rd generation games we've progressed too far to move away from it and there's a lot more you can do there than we can currently do with 4th gen and above hacking. Not to mention that we're not done researching them either.

The 4th gen was released in 2006-07 and still so little progress in eight years? That is crazy! I have thought about a remake of Pokémon Vega (hack of Japanese FireRed) based on Black/White 2, modified to include things like the Fairy type and other changes in the 6th generation and yet, I still see FireRed and Emerald hacks all over!

Xela December 12th, 2014 8:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Izarinoi:Akira (Post 8530640)
The 4th gen was released in 2006-07 and still so little progress in eight years? That is crazy! I have thought about a remake of Pokémon Vega (hack of Japanese FireRed) based on Black/White 2, modified to include things like the Fairy type and other changes in the 6th generation and yet, I still see FireRed and Emerald hacks all over!

That's the results of the research recent members have been able to do on FireRed and Emerald. It's just a much more "safer" base to work on right now because there's been extensive research done on it already in the past. I'm not saying there hasn't been any progress on the 4th gen games, but it's very little compared to what we can do already on the 3rd gen ones. I'd love to see 4th gen be used as main ROM bases one day.

Izarinoi:Akira December 12th, 2014 8:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexAhnon (Post 8530645)
That's the results of the research recent members have been able to do on FireRed and Emerald. It's just a much more "safer" base to work on right now because there's been extensive research done on it already in the past. I'm not saying there hasn't been any progress on the 4th gen games, but it's very little compared to what we can do already on the 3rd gen ones. I'd love to see 4th gen be used as main ROM bases one day.

So it's basically an issue of path dependence where the 'network effect' advantages of staying with the common platform outweigh the benefits of the newer platforms?

Xela December 12th, 2014 8:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Izarinoi:Akira (Post 8530652)
So it's basically an issue of path dependence where the 'network effect' advantages of staying with the common platform outweigh the benefits of the newer platforms?

Yeah, I'd say you could put it like that. That pretty much sums up the whole ordeal about 3rd gen vs. 4th gen hacking, it's just a much easier platform to work on and it's a lot more common.

Blah December 12th, 2014 8:34 PM

Newer generation games don't have enough research on them for tool makers to do their work. And without a decent map editing and scripting program, hacking will be very tedious. That and you can pretty much flawlessly import any non-graphical aspect of a newer generation game over to third generation. I'd say the only drawback is that we don't have as much RAM space to use, so larger scale hacks require smart implementation.

Shhwonk December 14th, 2014 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by KDS (Post 8518014)
Pokemon Altair/Sirius, the prequels of Pokemon Vega have been completely translated to English before October 2014. Anyone aware of this?

Just downloaded the translated patch yesterday.

Wait...really? Geez, I was looking at those games for months and really wanted to play them, but I was reluctant to because, well, I don't know Japan. That's awesome, I'm gonna look into it. Thanks :-)

Danny0317 December 15th, 2014 8:15 PM

Quick question, do you guys think this weather effect is ugly?

http://i.snag.gy/rwNtQ.jpg

And more on topic, what is that one feature that makes you wanna not play a hack?

For me, it's the lack of decap. I mean, I could definitely play with it, but I'd much rather play a hack with decap than without it

CosmicBlazer December 15th, 2014 8:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Sneasel (Post 8534386)
Quick question, do you guys think this weather effect is ugly?

http://i.snag.gy/rwNtQ.jpg

And more on topic, what is that one feature that makes you wanna not play a hack?

For me, it's the lack of decap. I mean, I could definitely play with it, but I'd much rather play a hack with decap than without it

Is that the stormy one with the rain? Or is that some weather I don't know about o.o? If it stays like when your in that area than yes it is ugly. IMO Idc but I might get annoyed by it later idk lol.

EDIT: Lack of a interesting story or just doesn't make any sense at all. Like Fluorite. Its so bad xD

klingt December 22nd, 2014 8:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Sneasel (Post 8534386)
And more on topic, what is that one feature that makes you wanna not play a hack?

The beta curse. Seriously, release a new version someday ever. Don't be another halfway hack or I'm not bothering with you. I know it's hard, but that's the kind of task you're undertaking.

Danny0317 December 22nd, 2014 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by klingt (Post 8543604)
The beta curse. Seriously, release a new version someday ever. Don't be another halfway hack or I'm not bothering with you. I know it's hard, but that's the kind of task you're undertaking.

Well you can't really blame someone for not finishing a hack, and discarding a hack simply because it's not completed doesn't seem very fair in my opinion...

klingt December 22nd, 2014 11:38 PM

The issue isn't with the idea of beta itself or trying and giving up because it isn't worth it; rather the sheer number of unfinished hacks there are, made by people who may never interact with the community again. I understand all the things that can get in the way, but in my opinion, if you're going to do something, finish it.

Christos December 23rd, 2014 4:19 AM

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Originally Posted by klingt (Post 8543721)
The issue isn't with the idea of beta itself or trying and giving up because it isn't worth it; rather the sheer number of unfinished hacks there are, made by people who may never interact with the community again. I understand all the things that can get in the way, but in my opinion, if you're going to do something, finish it.

I disagree. Though there are many unfinished hacks, rushing just to get it finished and get it over with is worse in my opinion, as it usually results in very bad quality hacks.

People usually do this as a hobby, and if they actually care about making something decent it takes quite a while, which is why most end up giving up.

Dionen December 23rd, 2014 8:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Christos (Post 8543893)
I disagree. Though there are many unfinished hacks, rushing just to get it finished and get it over with is worse in my opinion, as it usually results in very bad quality hacks.
People usually do this as a hobby, and if they actually care about making something decent it takes quite a while, which is why most end up giving up.

They rush their betas
They release something with tons of bugs and low quality
They receive a feedback that was not what they wanted
They give up

That's what happens most of the time, unfortunately. The feedback is often the only thing you receive from hacking, and that may ruin the whole thing.

Mana December 24th, 2014 8:07 AM

I quite like getting feedback. Not from betas necessarily, but isn't that the reason people post updates and screenshots.

Christos December 24th, 2014 2:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Magic (Post 8545703)
I quite like getting feedback. Not from betas necessarily, but isn't that the reason people post updates and screenshots.

I love getting feedback from updates or screenshots. It'd always keep me motivated to work more and post updates more frequently. There were times I'd rush to finish a small map just so I could post a screenshot with a minor update. :P


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