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OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 21st, 2014 3:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mario (Post 8311568)
Well the cool thing about this is that Sableye already had a very very slow base stat of 50 in his Speed category. This is ridiculously slow, and for them to make him even slower would definitely put him at the top usage as far as TR goes. The only problem I can think of is if his Defense was not boosted high enough he's going to have trouble even getting that TR up.

I just really hope he'll be able to survive out there competitively and be able to get his TRs up without too much issue. He might be able to Mega into a TR fairly flawlessly though if he gets a decent defensive boost like I'm hoping he will. I guess it'll be all about making the right switch at the right time. Cause if you've got a TR team already it should be easy to get one up and switch him into it. Yeehaw!

Because I'm huge on TR myself and I would adore using this lil guy.

The issue with that though is that Sableye can't learn Trick Room itself, so it'll need some assisance. So it'll proably be best for doubles where it can Mega Evolve (use Detect while it waits for something like Reuniclus to set up Trick room) on it's first turn (and not risk being killed upon switching in). It's normal self has a defense of 75 so it may not last long without that boost from it's Mega if done any other way...

Universe June 21st, 2014 3:35 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 8311572)
The issue with that though is that Sableye can't learn Trick Room itself, so it'll need some assisance. So it'll proably be best for doubles where it can Mega Evolve (use Detect while it waits for something like Reuniclus to set up Trick room) on it's first turn (and not risk being killed upon switching in). It's normal self has a defense of 75 so it may not last long without that boost from it's Mega if done any other way...

There's a possibility he'll end up being able to learn it in the remakes. They may make it so just because of his Mega. I don't imagine Sableye being much of a sweeper anyway, so I doubt it'll matter to take up that move slot. :P

Ah but dude, unless he actually gets more special moves (and possibly Nasty Plot) I cannot see him getting much play unfortunately. Because yikes almost his entire move pool is Attack based. He might be able to pull off being a lead Pokemon though with that Magic Bounce. It just will be tricky on how you're gonna Mega him before they toss out a status/entry hazard...

Doubles seems good but I wish there was a better way to use him in Singles.

MarinoKadame June 21st, 2014 4:32 PM

Nasty Plot is an Egg Move for Sabeleye in gen 6, Drowzee, Hypno, Chimchar, Croagunk and Toxicroak need to be the father.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 21st, 2014 4:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MarinoKadame (Post 8311665)
Nasty Plot is an Egg Move for Sabeleye in gen 6, Drowzee, Hypno, Chimchar, Croagunk and Toxicroak need to be the father.

That'll help it. Now it only needs some special defense boost.

One of Sableye's moves though is Psychic which will help it destroy Fighting types (should someone not decide to switch them out for some reason xD).

Pepperton June 22nd, 2014 7:16 AM

There's obviously going to be two different types of Mega Sableye a person could run - offensive, with Nasty Plot, Dark Pulse, Shadow Ball, and Hidden Power, or a defensively oriented one, utilizing its sluggish speed stat but impressive defensive buffs. That's how I think it's shaping up to be at this point.

St.Silver June 22nd, 2014 7:32 AM

Now i'm not sure if anyone has posted this yet. I didn't see anything.

Spoiler:
http://www.mcmbuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/cASieGs.jpg
Now just incase you don't see them clearly those shadowed images are of Ludicolo, Shiftry, Sableye, Sharpedo, Camerupt, Flygon, Zangoose, Seviper, Salamance, Metagross, Latias and Latios wether this is real or not i don't know but we have seen sableye so maybe! Mega Metagross and Salamance is extremely Over the Top mind you!

PlatinumDude June 22nd, 2014 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Pepperton (Post 8312487)
There's obviously going to be two different types of Mega Sableye a person could run - offensive, with Nasty Plot, Dark Pulse, Shadow Ball, and Hidden Power, or a defensively oriented one, utilizing its sluggish speed stat but impressive defensive buffs. That's how I think it's shaping up to be at this point.

Shadow Ball and Dark Pulse have redundant coverage and shouldn't be used together. Sableye also has access to Dazzling Gleam to help against opposing Dark Pokemon, though HP Fighting can be used solely for Tyranitar or Bisharp; Steels are already hit neutrally by Dark/Ghost The best Nasty Plot Mega Sableye set, IMO is this:
-Nasty Plot
-Shadow Ball/Dark Pulse
-Dazzling Gleam/Hidden Power (Fighting)
-Recover
Nature: Modest
EVs: 252 HP/252 SAtk/4 SDef
Item: Sablite
Ability: Prankster

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 22nd, 2014 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Pepperton (Post 8312487)
There's obviously going to be two different types of Mega Sableye a person could run - offensive, with Nasty Plot, Dark Pulse, Shadow Ball, and Hidden Power, or a defensively oriented one, utilizing its sluggish speed stat but impressive defensive buffs. That's how I think it's shaping up to be at this point.

Let us hope that the buff will be enough, considering it's defenses are already quite low.

Heric Winter June 22nd, 2014 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by St.Silver (Post 8312511)
Now i'm not sure if anyone has posted this yet. I didn't see anything.

Spoiler:
http://www.mcmbuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/cASieGs.jpg
Now just incase you don't see them clearly those shadowed images are of Ludicolo, Shiftry, Sableye, Sharpedo, Camerupt, Flygon, Zangoose, Seviper, Salamance, Metagross, Latias and Latios wether this is real or not i don't know but we have seen sableye so maybe! Mega Metagross and Salamance is extremely Over the Top mind you!

I have posted it :)

Serebii confirmed that it's fake

KostK2Boss June 23rd, 2014 3:04 AM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 8311690)
That'll help it. Now it only needs some special defense boost.

One of Sableye's moves though is Psychic which will help it destroy Fighting types (should someone not decide to switch them out for some reason xD).

Apparently, Sableye can learn Calm Mind, which could be a nice alternative to Nasty Plot. Will-o-Wisp can already take care of physical attackers and Magic Bounce basically eliminates the need to run Taunt.
What I wonder is this: If I sent out a Prankster Sableye holding the Sablite and then clicked a status move + the Mega evolve button, would Sableye keep Prankster's priority for the turn it Mega evolves?

Salzorrah June 23rd, 2014 4:15 AM

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Originally Posted by St.Silver (Post 8312511)
Now i'm not sure if anyone has posted this yet. I didn't see anything.

Spoiler:
http://www.mcmbuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/cASieGs.jpg
Now just incase you don't see them clearly those shadowed images are of Ludicolo, Shiftry, Sableye, Sharpedo, Camerupt, Flygon, Zangoose, Seviper, Salamance, Metagross, Latias and Latios wether this is real or not i don't know but we have seen sableye so maybe! Mega Metagross and Salamance is extremely Over the Top mind you!

It's fake. I'm sure if it was real, they would have shown an image instead of a poster. It doesn't make sense haha :)

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 23rd, 2014 8:24 AM

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Originally Posted by KostK2Boss (Post 8313750)
Apparently, Sableye can learn Calm Mind, which could be a nice alternative to Nasty Plot. Will-o-Wisp can already take care of physical attackers and Magic Bounce basically eliminates the need to run Taunt.
What I wonder is this: If I sent out a Prankster Sableye holding the Sablite and then clicked a status move + the Mega evolve button, would Sableye keep Prankster's priority for the turn it Mega evolves?

That's true, irc the Pokemon keeps the speed of it's Pre-Mega until the turn after it Mega Evolves... But who knows about ability speed (or priority) it may or may not remain for that first turn.

SnowpointQuincy June 23rd, 2014 8:55 AM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 8314037)
That's true, irc the Pokemon keeps the speed of it's Pre-Mega until the turn after it Mega Evolves... But who knows about ability speed (or priority) it may or may not remain for that first turn.

We know how the reverse works. When Bannet gets Prankster on mega evolving, it doesn't kick in till next turn.

So Mega Sableye will be the opposite. Having Prankster the first turn, then loosing it on turn 2.

So Turn 1: Prankster Calm Mind. Turn 2: Prankster Recover(Mega Evolve) Turn 3: Wreak Face.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 23rd, 2014 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SnowpointQuincy (Post 8314069)
We know how the reverse works. When Bannet gets Prankster on mega evolving, it doesn't kick in till next turn.

So Mega Sableye will be the opposite. Having Prankster the first turn, then loosing it on turn 2.

So Turn 1: Prankster Calm Mind. Turn 2: Prankster Recover(Mega Evolve) Turn 3: Wreak Face.

That's true. So it would be a good idea to up one's stats or weak the opponents with Prankster on hand then Mega Evolve after all. Btw does anyone know if Sableye can learn Amnesia? It could cover it's special defense.

White Raven June 23rd, 2014 2:26 PM

MY DREAM MIGHT COME TRUE!! :D
I hope the speculation of the team boss megastones is true. (Fingers crossed!)
If it is I hope Camerupt and Sharpedo are the ones that get to be Megaed. Mostly Sharpedo, but no matter.
I think sableye just got cuter and more powerful. It reminds me of a (Hope Diamond?) gem that was cursed and all owners are killed. By *drumroll* Sableye!!!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 23rd, 2014 2:40 PM

A cursed gem? Maybe it should've held a Sapphire or Diamond instead xD (there's a lot of rl stories of cursed Sapphire and Diamonds).

There's barely any Mega who keep their hidden ability but I hope Sharpedo will be one of them.

White Raven June 23rd, 2014 2:52 PM

Who knows? Maybe, like Charizard, Sableye will get two or, dare I say? Five megas. Maybe one for each of the gemstone named Pokemon Game? Mega Sableye R (Learns Cursed Drill?), Mega Sableye S (Learns Cursed Jump?), Mega Sableye E (learns Cursed Voice?), Mega Sableye D (Learns Cursed Bite?) and Mega Sableye P (Learns Cursed Overthrow?) . Before you all shoot me down, I just want you to know that one can dream.
Also, they say that all Burmese rubies (Very, VERY expensive), known for their pigeon blood colour are cursed for their miners. Sorta like blood diamonds, but blood rubies.
YESSS!!! SPEED BOOST SHARPEDO FTW!

Dragon June 23rd, 2014 2:54 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 8314231)
That's true. So it would be a good idea to up one's stats or weak the opponents with Prankster on hand then Mega Evolve after all. Btw does anyone know if Sableye can learn Amnesia? It could cover it's special defense.

It can't, but to be honest, Sableye is a pretty tough little defensive cookie anyway, like, if you saw one in action that's well EV trained, you'd be surprised on how it holds up! I think it'll be interesting how the mega forme can hold up too, though, it's sorta tough to let go of prankster, hmmm.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 23rd, 2014 5:04 PM

I noticed that Mega Sableye's teeth went from white to a golden Yellow...wonder if it's design will encorporate more kinds of precious metals/gems such as in the back. I don't think we know how it looks from behind yet...maybe it'll have some sapphire back spikes.

White Raven June 23rd, 2014 5:26 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 8314634)
I noticed that Mega Sableye's teeth went from white to a golden Yellow...wonder if it's design will encorporate more kinds of precious metals/gems such as in the back. I don't think we know how it looks from behind yet...maybe it'll have some sapphire back spikes.

This made me love the design even more. YAY! But wouldn't the Sableye be half metal? And not it's confirmed types? Did I read something wrong?

Pepperton June 23rd, 2014 5:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 8314634)
I noticed that Mega Sableye's teeth went from white to a golden Yellow...wonder if it's design will encorporate more kinds of precious metals/gems such as in the back. I don't think we know how it looks from behind yet...maybe it'll have some sapphire back spikes.

http://media-cerulean.cursecdn.com/attachments/9/740/mega_sableye_battle_4.jpg

I like the teeth thing, adds to his gemstone concept. Really excited to see exactly what the stat boosts are for these Megas; will be crucial in finding out what competitive roles they'll be able to play and which ones they won't be able to. We've gotten some information on it, obviously, but nothing concrete as of yet. Numbers, to be specific!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 23rd, 2014 6:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepperton (Post 8314676)
http://media-cerulean.cursecdn.com/attachments/9/740/mega_sableye_battle_4.jpg

I like the teeth thing, adds to his gemstone concept. Really excited to see exactly what the stat boosts are for these Megas; will be crucial in finding out what competitive roles they'll be able to play and which ones they won't be able to. We've gotten some information on it, obviously, but nothing concrete as of yet. Numbers, to be specific!

Woah, seems like it's largest back stones are at least Emerald's and Sapphires (with tinier rubies in there). Wonder what it did to it's diamonds which used to be it's eyes...
Correct me if I'm misremembering but I don't think they gave us the stat number pre-release (or at all...that may be calculated by fans) for the Megas (same for nearly every Pokemon). So I think we'll have to wait until November to see any confirmed Numbers.

DracoLatch June 23rd, 2014 8:09 PM

Rapidash and Hitmochan. Why?
Just imagine what they'd look like.
I think that's enough reason

SnowpointQuincy June 23rd, 2014 8:20 PM

Acanine, Flareon, Rapidash, Charizard, Magmotar, and Ninetails.....

All Mega-Evolve...

Into Fire/Fighting Types!!!!
:15:

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 23rd, 2014 9:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SnowpointQuincy (Post 8314867)
Arcanine, Flareon, Rapidash, Charizard, Magmotar, and Ninetails.....

All Mega-Evolve...

Into Fire/Fighting Types!!!!
:15:

Lol, now you're just trolling. None of those would make good fighting types either way.

Speaking of Mega Magmotar it could be Fire/Dark with Mega Electivire being Electric/Fighting. Of course Mega Jynx (or a Mega for her evolution if they are to give it one next gen or another one) will keep Ice/Psychic


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