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curiousnathan May 7th, 2014 11:31 PM

I want them to keep the current lineup when it comes to the Gym Leaders. But make them a challenge. That's the one thing that lacked severely for me in BW/B2W2 and XY. None of them were a challenge. Gym Leaders are supposed to be very skilled trainers, top trainers in fact. That fact needs to reverberate within me more when I battle them. I want to get thwarted by them time and time again, I want to rage at my 3DS because they got some absurd critical hit or used another Hyper Potion. I want gym battles to be fun.

Likewise with the Elite Four. More so with the Elite Four really, they're the top 4 trainers in the whole region, they should have a team of six with devastatingly powerful attacks and stats. They also should be smarter.

I have BIG expectations of these games, considering how good RSE were and how horrible XY were. I just don't want to get myself too excited over something I think won't happen, haha. d:

And yes to Wally being the new Champion! ;O;

metalhand May 7th, 2014 11:41 PM

I personally really hope to see wally as the new champion, it would be nice to see him grow up so much. Also wallace was the worst champion...

Salzorrah May 8th, 2014 2:26 AM

If Remakes, I'm seeing the same except Sootopolis which could be Wallace on OR and Juan on AS or vice versa and E4 is the same with Steven as Champion

If Sequels or brand new storyline

> Norman [or Brendan (OR) or May (AS)] = Petalburg City
> Roxanne = Rustboro City
> Someone new = Dewford Town
> Wattson = New Mauville City (possible gym relocation)
> Someone new = Fallarbor Town (Lavaridge possibly destroyed by eruption)
> Winona = Fortree City
> Tate & Liza = Mossdeep City
> Brawly = Pacifidlog Town (another gym relocation etc)

and for E4

> Phoebe
> Flannery
> Sidney
> Glacia

and Drake as Champion with Steven as the final trainer like in Emerald.

Pinkie-Dawn May 8th, 2014 4:51 AM

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Originally Posted by PlatinumDude (Post 8237052)
I want that because FR/LG and HG/SS stayed true to the original games by keeping the original Gym Leader lineups.

Also, I wouldn't consider Norman as the worst lineup because:
-two Slaking are incredibly hard to deal with at that point of the game, even with Truant.
-His Pokemon lineup changed in Emerald to have Linoone, Spinda, Vigoroth and Slaking

Still, Norman was using 2 Pokemon from the same family, so Vigoroth could've been replaced by another Normal type. I could care less about the difficulty based on two Slaking, I just want him to use only one for the sake of type diversity. FR/LG and HG/SS staying true to their original games were why those remakes are still inferior to the newer titles in terms of type diversity, and why I fear OR/AS will suffer the same fate, unless GF breaks their tradition of changing their lineup post-game.

Famon May 8th, 2014 5:11 AM

I want Norman to be a E4 member of Hoenn .
I want a new 17 year old handsome champion who dress like a High-school Bad boy and wear an Earphone . (No Pieing)

Liberal Army May 8th, 2014 5:18 AM

It is confirmed OR/AS are remakes, not sequels.

I hope they expand the Pokedex with evolutions introduced in Gen IV. Phoebe can have a Dusknoir and Glacia can have a Froslass. I hope GF includes all of the evolitions, instead of including 3 like in HG/SS.
If Mega Evolutions are added to the game, the E4 can have them. Sydney using Mega Absol, Phoebe Mega Banette, Glacia perhaps new Mega Glalie/Walrein and Drake Mega Altaria. Steven of course Mega Aggron.

And another hope; please add difficulty modes to the game! Just like BW2. The Gym Leaders can have exyra Pokemon, like Brawly using Heracross and Winona using Tropius.

blue May 8th, 2014 5:20 AM

I hope they keep the same roster as exact in the originals, yes even Glacia having two Sealeos and two Glalies. Will be interesting to see what Pokemon the E4 and Gym rematches get, since RSE there have been plenty of new Pokemon and evolution of certain Hoenn Pokemon.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 8th, 2014 8:56 AM

I wonder if they'll keep the set order or have us pick which one we get to fight. I just hope they handle it better than Gen V and XY have done.

mikey May 8th, 2014 9:05 AM

I would like the Gym Leaders and Elite Four to have updated looks, like clothing and stuff like that. I think it would be awesome. Also, of course I would like to see updated Gym and Elite Four puzzles. Maybe update some roasters a bit too?

In terms of replacements, I don't want to see anyone replaced. The idea of Norman being in the Elite Four is pretty cool though, so maybe Wally can take his place as the Petalburg City Gym Leader? That'd be cool

Wicked3DS May 8th, 2014 9:18 AM

I'd like to see the Elite Four get some more diversity (particularly Phoebe and Glacia, and perhaps Draken a little bit), and I'd like to see Steven as the champion instead of Wallace. Otherwise, they can all stay the same.

Katunei999 May 8th, 2014 9:49 AM

Well, I actually am really fond of ALL the League members. But as for changes, it depends. If it is a sequel from last time, I still want the opportunity to battle my dad. Because quite frankly, that was awesome. Secondly, I would want a brand new champion. I never played Sapphire or Ruby, so it never stuck with me that Steven was the champion. He was just the cool guy that got me a Kecleon and a Steel Wing TM. And while I never hated Wallace, I certainly wasn't fond of him. He made my life more difficult then it had to be with his Milotic, even if I did like his flashy speeches. So, all in all, new champion. Wally as a champion would be AMAZING!

I would love for Tate and Liz to still be a double battle gym. They gave me a lot of trouble, but it's one of my favourite gyms, even now. One thing I do wish for is more info on the Elite Four. I have a preference to Sidney, but that's just because he looked cool to me as a kid, and has a Mightyena. But I would really like to get to know them a bit better this time around; why did Phoebe choose Ghost types, what region did Glacia come from, why is Drake so awesome? Finally, I really wish there would be a dark type gym. Has anyone else noticed that we have NEVER had one? We've had plenty of Dark type Elite Four members (Karen, Sidney and Grimsley), why not a dark type gym?

Hikamaru May 8th, 2014 9:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Wicked3DS (Post 8238244)
I'd like to see the Elite Four get some more diversity (particularly Phoebe and Glacia, and perhaps Draken a little bit), and I'd like to see Steven as the champion instead of Wallace. Otherwise, they can all stay the same.

Yeah I'd like to see them keep Steven like in the original Ruby and Sapphire, probably because he's more of a challenge than Wallace is. Wallace didn't have much diversity with his team and could be easily destroyed by a combination of Electric and Grass moves.

Steven, despite being a Steel specialist didn't really have an all-Steel team which was pretty diverse as expected for a champion. He had only half his team in the originals be Steel-types (Skarmory, Aggron and Metagross) while the other half was Claydol and the Hoenn fossil lines (Armaldo and Cradily).

Firebreathing Ice Cube May 8th, 2014 10:01 AM

I think whoever the champion for Omega Ruby or Alpha Sapphire will have a Mega Evo for their signature Pokemon, just like Diantha and her Gardevoir. So if it's Steven, it would be a Mega Metagross, or if it was Wallace, Mega Milotic.

Or maybe both...? Dunno, I'm pretty ok with the rosters of the Elite 4 though. The rematches with the Gym Leaders and the Pokemon League will undoubtedly have new Pokemon (like Sidney gets Bisharp or something).

Aquacorde May 8th, 2014 1:33 PM

Guys what if Steven&Wallace double champion battle?

Abby May 8th, 2014 2:01 PM

the hoenn elite four!
 
So i was thinking about how recent generations have had a sort of courtyard where you can choose which order to face the elite four in, but 3rd gen had the elite four in a set order. So what do you think will happen?

Also do you expect any roster or even member changes?

Personally i think pheobe will get a dusknoir.
The ice one will get a froslass
( of course assuming we get cross gen evos)
i dont like in emerald how wallace was champiin and the last gym was the same type as his.( like gen 2)


I do like the choose your order thing as well, so i hope they include that.

Jellicent♀ May 8th, 2014 2:02 PM

Roxanne better have her Nosepass.

Roxanne
Brawly
Wattson
Flannery
Norman
Winona
Tate & Liza
Wallace

Sydney
Phoebe
Glacia
Drake
Steven

PokeNav rematches (if they should ever put the Gym Leaders in for it like they did in Emerald)
Roxanne
Brawly
Wattson
Flannery
Norman
Tate & Liza
Juan

E4 rematches (should they change the teams a wee bit and higher levels)
Sydney
Phoebe
Glacia
Drake
Wallace

With Steven taking his place as the extra, ultimate battle in Meteor Falls, again. c:

Timbjerr May 8th, 2014 2:13 PM

it would be neat if all the E4 members mega-evolve their ace pokemon, but seeing as they didn't do that in XY, I'd doubt it would happen. Steven's Metagross definitely needs to mega-evolve though. It only makes sense considering Steven is someone whose passion is looking for and collecting rare stones. He's definitely the kind if guy that would have a metagrosite laying around. XD

Wicked3DS May 8th, 2014 6:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Timbjerr (Post 8238808)
It only makes sense considering Steven is someone whose passion is looking for and collecting rare stones.

This. That never clicked in my mind until right now, and I think it totally makes it possible for him to have Mega Metagross. That would be awesome.

Apollo May 8th, 2014 6:28 PM

Roxanne was the most interesting gym leader for me, so I'd like them to keep her. I also think the Elite Four should get a bigger role - Glacia was my personal favorite. :D

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 8th, 2014 6:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timbjerr (Post 8238808)
it would be neat if all the E4 members mega-evolve their ace pokemon, but seeing as they didn't do that in XY, I'd doubt it would happen. Steven's Metagross definitely needs to mega-evolve though. It only makes sense considering Steven is someone whose passion is looking for and collecting rare stones. He's definitely the kind if guy that would have a metagrosite laying around. XD

Yeah...and maybe he'll give you a Beldum post game like how Diantha gave us Ralt with Gardevoirite instead of giving it to us mid game.

antemortem May 8th, 2014 6:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 8239283)
Yeah...and maybe he'll give you a Beldum post game like how Diantha gave us Ralt with Gardevoirite instead of giving it to us mid game.

Or a Beldum in the middle of the game with a Metagrosite as a mirror to Korrina giving you Mega Lucario right off the bat, basically.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 8th, 2014 6:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Antemortem (Post 8239311)
Or a Beldum in the middle of the game with a Metagrosite as a mirror to Korrina giving you Mega Lucario right off the bat, basically.

Oh right it could be like that. Except his Beldum will be less of a game Breaker as we get it after we fight Liza and Tate...

Jellicent♀ May 8th, 2014 6:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timbjerr (Post 8238808)
it would be neat if all the E4 members mega-evolve their ace pokemon, but seeing as they didn't do that in XY, I'd doubt it would happen. Steven's Metagross definitely needs to mega-evolve though. It only makes sense considering Steven is someone whose passion is looking for and collecting rare stones. He's definitely the kind if guy that would have a metagrosite laying around. XD

Oh my Gosh, or like, ALL of the Gym Leaders in their rematches (E4 as well) have Pokemon of their type that can Mega Evolve. Sweet babies. Double battle rematches just like last time.

Roxanne - Mega Tyranitar
Brawly - Mega Heracross
Wattson - Mega Manectric
Flannery - Mega Houndoom
Norman - Mega Kangaskhan
Winona - Mega Aerodactyl
Tate & Liza - Mega Medicham & Mega Alakazam
Juan - Mega Blastoise

E4
Sydney - Mega Absol
Phoebe - Mega Gengar
Glacia - Mega Abomasnow
Drake - Mega Garchomp
Wallace - Mega Gyarados

XtinaIsMeLuvinWWE May 8th, 2014 6:52 PM

I want Winona to have a fabulous new outfit (even though I loved her original look), with her taking on the player in a Sky Battle with a shiny Swellow on her team... I don't think that's too much to ask haha xD


Aside from that as it's a remake I hope they stay true to all the Gym Leaders and Elite Four members, in terms of including them all at the very least although I'm wanting to see revamped looks and perhaps a bit more backstory on some of them :)

Bluerang1 May 9th, 2014 8:12 AM

There's the Sootopolis Gym Leader debate but how about the other Gym leades? It's a brand new world so probably a sequel or some years since RSE so we're bound to have new Gym Leaders or a reshuffling of their order. Who do you hope stays? What type of new Gyms would you like to see?

I hope Winona and Tate&Liz stay. I still want a Dark Gym.

Do you think they'll be changes in the Elite 4 and what will these be? Who will be the champion?

I think the Elite 4 up to the Dragon guy will remain the same. Wally will be Champion.


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