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HoennTM May 7th, 2014 10:50 PM

Seasonal Changes
 
I don't know about you, but I'd love for them to bring back seasonal changes, like in B/W/B2/W2 when a season changed, the trees and etc would be different, and so forth. What do you guys think?

- I've made a lot of threads and I am just expressing speculation about what I want in the game.

Aquacorde May 7th, 2014 10:53 PM

Naaaah, not seasons in Hoenn. It's already got such a diverse terrain that seasons would just make things complicated and crazy imo. And it's a tropical climate, too, which means not so much variation in seasons anyway. I'd prefer more weather effects like people have been saying and for god's sake a day/night cycle. Although given that it's tropical, the days would probably be much longer than those in Johto and that.

Elaitenstile May 7th, 2014 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquacorde (Post 8237304)
Naaaah, not seasons in Hoenn. It's already got such a diverse terrain that seasons would just make things complicated and crazy imo. And it's a tropical climate, too, which means not so much variation in seasons anyway. I'd prefer more weather effects like people have been saying and for god's sake a day/night cycle. Although given that it's tropical, the days would probably be much longer than those in Johto and that.

So true, man. From Fallarbor to Fortree to Dewford, I don't think an exotic place would even change with seasons realistically. I live in a tropical place, so I have experience lol. But then again, it would be kind of harsh not to see ice types anywhere other than in Shoal Cave. Hopefully that would change!

Salzorrah May 8th, 2014 4:29 AM

Since Hoenn is a tropical region, it would make sense not to have winter but I think North Hoenn should get a little bit of snow, particularly in the Fallarbor area, I don't know why but it still cool tho :)

blue May 8th, 2014 4:33 AM

I hope Seasons debut in ORAS, it would be amazing to see Hoenn covered in snow! Just imagine Fortree City..

Altairis May 8th, 2014 6:26 AM

I dunno, but I think it would be pretty cool. I think they should save that feature for another game, though, since Hoenn is half water and it wouldn't really change that much with the seasons. :)

That reminds me! You think they'll include a full daytime cycle like they did in DPPt? That would be pretty cool looking.

Eevee May 8th, 2014 6:34 AM

The daytime nighttime cycle would be cool in these remakes actually!

If they implement the season thing in these games, please, for the love of god, don't have the message pop up before you get to play the games saying, "spring........summer.....fall....." it was so tedious. If there's snow on the ground it's obviously winter. I don't need the game telling me that. X_X
As well, most of the time it would be off. It would be the middle of June and it would claim to be winter in my White game.
I understand that seasons are different around the world but at least have it so it would be accurate in each continent. If it can be done in Animal Crossing, I don't see why they can't handle it in Pokemon.

Xander Olivieri May 8th, 2014 9:08 AM

Like with the other remakes, I wouldn't expect much in terms of adding in content that didn't exist in the original games. Time was in the original so I can see day and night, but seasons were an exclusive gimmick to Unova. I think it would have some odd effect with berries too.

Kinda see them using Kalos' berry system.

MusikMaestro May 8th, 2014 9:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Eevee (Post 8237939)
As well, most of the time it would be off. It would be the middle of June and it would claim to be winter in my White game.
I understand that seasons are different around the world but at least have it so it would be accurate in each continent. If it can be done in Animal Crossing, I don't see why they can't handle it in Pokemon.

This is because the seasons changed by month. June was set to Winter, July to Spring, August to Summer, and September to Autumn. It was kind of a weird way to do it, and it led to some weird occurrences, like Winter in June.

Keromatsu May 8th, 2014 9:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Cat (Post 8237727)
I hope Seasons debut in ORAS, it would be amazing to see Hoenn covered in snow! Just imagine Fortree City..

Lol, whats up with the Fortree joke, been hearing theese everyday, for eg:,"I wonder what Fortree City would look like in 3D..." heard that on the HOENN Remakes CONFIRMED Thread. :)
:D

Pyrax May 8th, 2014 10:31 AM

If seasons were to be implemented again, a monthly rotation of dry season/wet season is more suitable for a tropical region than a rotation of Spring/Summer/Autumn/Winter.

Meganium May 8th, 2014 10:32 AM

I say no to seasons imo. I figured those were too iconic in the Unova region. Echoing others, Hoenn is like Hawaii in a way...it's too mild and it doesn't have cold winters like other regions.

fenyx4 May 9th, 2014 6:48 PM

Originally I wanted season, but Hoenn being in a tropical climate could clash with the concepts of seasons.. Maybe if the affected seasonal area was limited?

More weather effects like Sinnoh had would definitely be nice. A day/night cycle is practically a must (to this day, Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald still get criticized for being a downgrade in that regard), with visual effects like Sinnoh and Johto had.

(I recently learned that XY added a light for the bike at nighttime; would be nice to see that in Hoenn, too. :3)

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 9th, 2014 7:29 PM

I think Hoenn will be like the Kanto remakes (which lack night and day too) and lack the seasons as XY lacked them. By the way why haven't many people criticised XY in this regard but criticised RSE for lacking day and night.

If they were to add seasons it should be a dry and wet season like in some real life tropical areas.

PrincessOfArendelle May 9th, 2014 7:39 PM

It would not make sense due to it's climate. I mean it would be fine in Gen 4 remakes and would fit well.

Jellicent♀ May 9th, 2014 7:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Avant Garde (Post 8237721)
Since Hoenn is a tropical region, it would make sense not to have winter but I think North Hoenn should get a little bit of snow, particularly in the Fallarbor area, I don't know why but it still cool tho :)

North hoenn is just a volcano, though. An active one, at that. I don't see any snow being able to settle on the ground any time soon.

Plus, seasons in Hoenn would just be...blegh. Like, more rain n some areas, thunderstorms, and maybe even lots of wind and rain, but as far as snowy winters and brisk autumns go, it just seems weird for Hoenn.

Bobbylicious May 9th, 2014 8:01 PM

well at first i wanted seasons and then i read this...

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Originally Posted by Aquacorde (Post 8237304)
Naaaah, not seasons in Hoenn. It's already got such a diverse terrain that seasons would just make things complicated and crazy imo. And it's a tropical climate, too, which means not so much variation in seasons anyway. I'd prefer more weather effects like people have been saying and for god's sake a day/night cycle. Although given that it's tropical, the days would probably be much longer than those in Johto and that.

now i dont see much point of seasons since its tropical. tho i would like to see some ice/snow somewhere in the game

Hikamaru May 9th, 2014 8:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Minerva (Post 8238379)
I say no to seasons imo. I figured those were too iconic in the Unova region. Echoing others, Hoenn is like Hawaii in a way...it's too mild and it doesn't have cold winters like other regions.

I agree with Megan, Hoenn's tropical climate would make seasonal changes irrelevant plus I think those should be kept to just Unova so that the region would have something still unique for it.

Taemin May 9th, 2014 8:24 PM

I'd be a little weirded out if it started snowing in Hoenn. .w. Day / Night system is a given at this point, I'd think, but a full weather system might be a bit much. Hoenn seems like it's supposed to be bright and sunny a lot, and people are able to swim and dive on a daily basis. There are towns build so carefully on the water that I doubt that region is supposed to have too many severe conditions.

Iceshadow3317 May 9th, 2014 8:37 PM

I don't think seasons need to be added in these games.

Hoenn is suppose to be tropical climate. Would be a bit odd to have some snow. Then again, it is real.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 9th, 2014 8:44 PM

If any part of Hoenn is to have snow it'll be the "east" if the region is situated like real life Kyushu compared to the mainland (Honshu), as the 'east' is suppose to be North Kyushu. Also Evergrand city appears to be at a higher elevation than any other place, and if one knows anything about mountains it tends to snow in the really high elevations even in some tropical areas.

Chibi-chan May 9th, 2014 8:47 PM

Oh no no no, I don't want seasons in Hoenn. In Hoenn, it is eternally the end of Spring, going into Summer (ETERNAL MAY)

What would be cooler than seasons though would be weather patterns. Maybe...a typhoon coming? Or an earthquake? There were already thunderstorms and lightning storms. I can see these things happening moreso than snow...

seeker May 10th, 2014 9:41 AM

I wouldn't mind a more in-depth weather dynamic. Hoenn is a tropical area, so seasons wouldn't have a major affect on the player (we can't feel the temperature after all!). So I imagine that seasons won't make a return. Snow in Hoenn doesn't suit how the region is built, people in Pacifidlog Town, Fortree City, and Lavaridge Town would basically have to abandon their homes or live a completely different life to previously. Remember that Hoenn is built around a Volcano, and a lot of water. It would be very strange if seasons were to be implemented, especially since the terrain would change way too drastically if it worked the same was as in the B&W games. However, when I spoke about a weather dynamic, I would like to see more harsh sunlight at times, monsoon kind of weather, and everything in between. So alternating weather would suit the games a lot more than seasons.

antemortem May 11th, 2014 9:27 AM

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Originally Posted by abnegation (Post 8242927)
Snow in Hoenn doesn't suit how the region is built, people in Pacifidlog Town, Fortree City, and Lavaridge Town would basically have to abandon their homes or live a completely different life to previously.

I doubt snow would even fall around where a volcano is situated? I'm not sure that's geographically possible. Fortree City and Pacifidlog would indeed be hindered, as if it's cold enough to snow, it's cold enough for some of the water to freeze, causing some issues for the latter residents.

seeker May 11th, 2014 9:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Antemortem (Post 8245057)
I doubt snow would even fall around where a volcano is situated? I'm not sure that's geographically possible. Fortree City and Pacifidlog would indeed be hindered, as if it's cold enough to snow, it's cold enough for some of the water to freeze, causing some issues for the latter residents.


Also Villarrica being one of Chile's most active volcanoes, is perpetually affected by snow and glacier ice.

Without getting into geography too much, while the ground would be heated, it wouldn't affect the sky's atmosphere that much. So that'd be why snow can fall anywhere, even around active volcanoes. Either way, it would all look a bit ridiculous indeed, and not suit the tropical region that Hoenn is. Which is why I certainly think they should focus on weather changes like strong sunlight, rainforest type downpour, storms, and perhaps strong winds too.


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