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Taiji Dragon May 8th, 2014 7:30 AM

Primal Reversion Discussion & Speculation Thread
 
Staff Note: This thread is now, as of June 27th, the official hub for discussing primal reversions. Please use this thread for all your primal reversion discussion and speculation! Do you think other Pokemon will be able to undergo this phenomenon? How does it relate to mega evolution?

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Look at the new box art for OR/AS.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSm8kenNedN7le1aDAmtmBRVp1bpo6P88ooWv6GWcfbwlJ-4efk

By now you must have noticed that the designs for Groudon and Kyogre are different. You can appreciate the difference in the original box art or anyother artwork for these pokemon.

http://assets24.pokemon.com/assets/cms/img/video-games/rubysapphire/ruby_sapphire_boxart.png

They still have their shape but the markings on their bodies are more pronounced, run along their bodies differently and depict the alpha and omega symbols. The markings are yellow rather than red and blue mirroring each other and also have a little of their own colors in their markings. Why the change? Do you think that is just stylized artwork? Or is there more to these versions that meets the eye? I seems that Groudon and Kyogre will get new formes in game judging by how they look. It would make little sense to make them like that for the artwork and leave them untouched in the game. That would be like having a pretty glass of perfume with no perfume in it. What are your thoughts? Stylized artworks for getting cool vibes or do those depict new formes?

Also notice that their markings are predominantly yellow like a certain member of their trio.

Update:

They have been revealed! The new forms of Groudon and Kyogre are said to be mega evolutions for both of them. They are refered to as Atom Groudon and Atom Kyogre. They are said to be the result of atomic regression.

Here is a picture:

http://www.serebii.net/corocoro7142th.jpg

Update 2:

Serebii appears to be in the middle of a translation. They changed the names to Primal/Prehistoric/Primeval. The legends have been regressed to their Primal forms. The process is known as ancient devolution. Content might change as they continue to translate.

Serebii list Groudon and Kyogre as "Prehistoric Pokemon" rather than Mega Evolutions in the index of their OR/AS page. They undergo a process known as "Ancient Devolutions" which is noted to be a similar but seperate process than mega evolution.

Update 3:

Primal Groudon and Primal Kyogre have been confirmed to be the english names for the two new forms of Groudon and Kyogre by Nintendo Digital Event at E3 according to serebii.net. Groudon's new form is Ground/Fire while Kyogre retains it's pure Water type. They are currently listed under Primal Pokemon in the index of serebii's OR/AS page.

Here is a link to serebii.net's OR/AS Primal Pokemon list: http://www.serebii.net/omegarubyalphasapphire/primal.shtml

Eevee May 8th, 2014 7:33 AM

THIS IS THE THREAD I WAS LOOKING FOR.

This just got posted on Serebii a while ago.

Quote:

Edit @ 15:38: The Japanese arm of The Pokémon Company sent out an e-mail to all Daisuki Club members which ends up pointing out the differences to Groudon & Kyogre on the box-art, stating that they're showcasing "never before seen Pokémon", the same terminology they used for Black & White Kyurem, as well as Mega Mewtwo Y upon their reveal, indicating that they are more than stylised artwork of the Pokémon. We'll bring more on this as it comes
I'm hoping it's just a cool form rather than Megas. I thought forms were much cooler x3

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 8th, 2014 7:33 AM

Well there is this " The Japanese arm of The Pokémon Company sent out an e-mail to all Daisuki Club members which ends up pointing out the differences to Groudon & Kyogre on the box-art, stating that they're showcasing "never before seen Pokémon", the same terminology they used for Black & White Kyurem, as well as Mega Mewtwo Y upon their reveal, indicating that they are more than stylised artwork of the Pokémon." Source: Serebii

So all indication is that they're something more. The new forms (whether Megas or Otherwise) will probably mean a longer or slightly shifted to the end story.

Altairis May 8th, 2014 8:00 AM

I guess I was wrong with them just being exaggerated drawings! I don't really mind new forms, but if they don't end up being Megas then I hope they have a purpose instead of being new forms for the sake of it like almost every other legendary.

Eevee May 8th, 2014 8:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Altairis (Post 8238106)
I guess I was wrong with them just being exaggerated drawings! I don't really mind new forms, but if they don't end up being Megas then I hope they have a purpose instead of being new forms for the sake of it like almost every other legendary.

I hope that they use the forms to be more powerful or something so that they can wreck more havoc on the region and make the story more intense. c:

Considering that Mega Evolution happens when a trainer has a good bond with their Pokemon, I'm thinking these will be forms.

Nah May 8th, 2014 8:10 AM

"stating that they're showcasing 'never before seen Pokémon'"
...But we have seen Groudon and Kyogre before. New forms =/= completely new Pokémon. Now, I'm not saying that they can't be getting new forms or mega evolutions, but the wording here that TPC is using.....


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Originally Posted by Eevee (Post 8238111)
I hope that they use the forms to be more powerful or something so that they can wreck more havoc on the region and make the story more intense. c:

lol, as if those 2 needed more power (holy crap the stats on those Megas). But they did give Mewtwo 2 mega evos and #GameFreakLogic, so it could happen....
But I have to agree, more intense story is needed.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 8th, 2014 8:16 AM

Perhaps they are Megas, but the bond thing will be played with...perhaps they'll first appear as corrupted Megas (think Dark Lugia) but after we calmed them they drop the stones and leave. After that we can pick up the stone(s) and battle the mascot of our game.

Arylett Charnoa May 8th, 2014 8:40 AM

I keep thinking they're overexaggerated art like one person before me, to be honest. They look too similar to be Megas to the originals. Although I suppose they COULD be Formes, especially since I just now noticed that they do indeed have Alpha and Omega symbols on them. Either way, I look forward to the berth of information that will slowly be revealed up to the release.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 8th, 2014 8:46 AM

Mega Ampharos wasn't all that different so this could be in the same vein.

mikey May 8th, 2014 9:07 AM

Highly doubt they're Megas. Probably some new form all together. They look sweet though.

VaderTheTrainer May 8th, 2014 9:16 AM

Mega Groudon and mega Kyogre ?!?!
 
Hey everybody ! recently pokemon has released the brand new game pokemon omega and alpha which is coming out this november :D You can not imagine how much i am happy right now ! But in the pictures in the boxes groudon and kyogre have a different look... I was surprised and tough it may be a mega evolution ... But I am not sure and I would love to see what you think about it so comment down below :D

Poke_Spirit May 8th, 2014 9:19 AM

They will probably change forms using the orbs... maybe Rayquaza will also

MusikMaestro May 8th, 2014 9:29 AM

I'd say it will be revealed that the orbs are actually their Mega forms, and the reason they wake up is because the orbs send them Mega.

Eevee May 8th, 2014 9:36 AM

I have a feeling it'll be orbs as well now that I'm thinking.

Orbs could make them glow cool like that. I hope they glow in the game like on the box art.

SnowpointQuincy May 8th, 2014 9:46 AM

A Form Change seems more likely, except how likely are new forms when Megas exists?

~Platina's Jason~ May 8th, 2014 9:50 AM

I hope they're not mega evolutions. It wouldn't make sense given the official timeline and I was never a fan of starters and legendaries getting mega evolutions to begin with.

Nah May 8th, 2014 9:59 AM

Part of me wonders if maybe Groudon and Kyogre are just gonna have pretty blinky lights now like with Zekrom and Reshiram....dammit I can't find any animated sprites so I can show what I mean

Blu·Ray May 8th, 2014 10:06 AM

I really want them to be mega evolutions. Game freak can surely patch X and Y with new mega evolutions to keep support, right?

Olli May 8th, 2014 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Platina's Jason~ (Post 8238302)
I hope they're not mega evolutions. It wouldn't make sense given the official timeline and I was never a fan of starters and legendaries getting mega evolutions to begin with.

What do you mean it doesn't make sense with the current timeline? So far we have no way of telling whether these games will be remakes or sequels, and in the case of sequels, mega evolution definitely wouldn't be a bad guess. Not to mention Red got his Charizard to mega evolve in the Origins anime.", but I wouldn't really consider that canon.

That said, I'm leaning more towards new forms, simply because mega evolutions would be too boring. Don't get me wrong, I really love the concept of mega evolutions, but I prefer the idea of alternate forms much more.

~Platina's Jason~ May 8th, 2014 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Olli (Post 8238340)
What do you mean it doesn't make sense with the current timeline? So far we have no way of telling whether these games will be remakes or sequels, and in the case of sequels, mega evolution definitely wouldn't be a bad guess.

These games have been confirmed to be remakes. Since the current timeline has XY after RSE it wouldn't make sense to have mega evolutions in the game at all.

Liberal Army May 8th, 2014 10:38 AM

I think these are just possessed Groudon and Kyogre, like in the Anime. Their veins are just glowing, that's it. They don't look any different to me, so Mega Evolutions are a no-go to me. Perhaps Archie/Maxie now succesfully posses these Pokémon?

I also found these rumours on 4chan which say something about 'Alpha form' and 'Omega form'.
http://boards.4chan.org/vp/thread/19124302

Nah May 8th, 2014 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Platina's Jason~ (Post 8238381)
These games have been confirmed to be remakes. Since the current timeline has XY after RSE it wouldn't make sense to have mega evolutions in the game at all.

Aye, but Game Freak doesn't care a whole lot about the timeline (or doing things that make sense, for that matter). They'll just come up with some BS reason for why Mega Evolution is now in Hoenn, like they always do.


Besides, megas are fun.

~Platina's Jason~ May 8th, 2014 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Salt&PepperDiner (Post 8238402)
Aye, but Game Freak doesn't care a whole lot about the timeline (or doing things that make sense, for that matter). They'll just come up with some BS reason for why Mega Evolution is now in Hoenn, like they always do.

I disagree. The only time they've ignored the timeline was by making trading between 5yh gen games possible without the use of timetravel. The only way I could see them bringing mega evolutions in is if the post game invoked a timeskip of some sort.

Olli May 8th, 2014 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Platina's Jason~ (Post 8238381)
These games have been confirmed to be remakes. Since the current timeline has XY after RSE it wouldn't make sense to have mega evolutions in the game at all.

Oh, they have? Nintendo haven't really been ones to care about consistency of the timelines within their franchise, I honestly doubt that's going to have much of an effect on whether or not mega evolutions will exist or not, but we'll just have to see :p

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 8th, 2014 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Platina's Jason~ (Post 8238418)
I disagree. The only time they've ignored the timeline was by making trading between 5yh gen games possible without the use of timetravel. The only way I could see them bringing mega evolutions in is if the post game invoked a timeskip of some sort.

Not really. The Steel type is said to have been discovered by Jasmine during the time of GS, and yet that was later Retcon in RSE and the Kanto remakes (these last ones confirmed to take place before GS).

~Platina's Jason~ May 8th, 2014 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Olli (Post 8238421)
Oh, they have? Nintendo haven't really been ones to care about consistency of the timelines within their franchise, I honestly doubt that's going to have much of an effect on whether or not mega evolutions will exist or not, but we'll just have to see :p

Yep. This page cpnfirms that they are remakes. And I would hope they don't contradict the timeline by bringing in mega evolutions but we'll see.

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 8238440)
Not really. The Steel type is said to have been discovered by Jasmine during the time of GS, and yet that was later Retcon in RSE and the Kanto remakes (these last ones confirmed to take place before GS).

Ah. I never played the original RGBY or GSC so I was not aware of that contradiction.

Nah May 8th, 2014 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Platina's Jason~ (Post 8238444)
Yep. This page cpnfirms that they are remakes. And I would hope they don't contradict the timeline by bringing in mega evolutions but we'll see.

Even if Mega Evolutions somehow contradict the semi-vague timeline Pokemon has going, Game Freak will just retcon it somehow.


We have to assume that ORAS wil be compatible with X/Y, which has mega evos. They'd have to include megas in ORAS simply for that. What if I'm playing on my Y and are battling someone playing Omega Ruby, and I try to mega evolve my Lucario but ORAS doesn't have mega evos in it? That's a bit of a problem.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 8th, 2014 11:28 AM

It's possible that the Mega stones could've come from the energy radiating from Mt. Pyre and Origin Cave which fill the void for Yvetal and Xerneas.

Varion Bluefire May 8th, 2014 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Salt&PepperDiner (Post 8238402)
Aye, but Game Freak doesn't care a whole lot about the timeline (or doing things that make sense, for that matter). They'll just come up with some BS reason for why Mega Evolution is now in Hoenn, like they always do.


Besides, megas are fun.

I don't see what the problem would be if megas were in ORAS.
FRLG are remakes of Gen I, where there was only 151 pokémon, yet you can actually catch 386.
HGSS had many things added compared to the original, Many cameos, new areas and such.

BEsides, in Origins, which apperently takes place during RG, and they have megas

They'd be no problem with ORAS having them too.
According to the timeline I've followed RS and FR are at the same time, or similar times.

So, it's not illogical for them to have megas.


If that makes sense.

Also: If they are megas, i guarantee that Red Orb and Blue Orb aare in fact Groudonite, and Kryogrite.

Nah May 8th, 2014 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by The Glitch (Post 8238507)
I don't see what the problem would be if megas were in ORAS.
FRLG are remakes of Gen I, where there was only 151 pokémon, yet you can actually catch 386.
HGSS had many things added compared to the original, Many cameos, new areas and such.

BEsides, in Origins, which apperently takes place during RG, and they have megas

They'd be no problem with ORAS having them too.
According to the timeline I've followed RS and FR are at the same time, or similar times.

So, it's not illogical for them to have megas.

....That's what I was saying. That there's no reason barring Game Freak from putting mega evolutions in ORAS.

~Platina's Jason~ May 8th, 2014 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by The Glitch (Post 8238507)
I don't see what the problem would be if megas were in ORAS.
FRLG are remakes of Gen I, where there was only 151 pokémon, yet you can actually catch 386.
HGSS had many things added compared to the original, Many cameos, new areas and such.

Except those Pokemon always existed at the same time so it makes perfect sense for them to be catchable in FRLG. Mega evolutions were only discovered in XY which takes place years from RSE so having them in ORAS makes no sense and shouldn't be done.

L0RD G3NGAR May 8th, 2014 11:39 AM

If you look closely at Kyogres fin you can see the Mega evolution symbol. Atleast that's what I seen

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 8th, 2014 11:49 AM

I think it'll be unfair if they give Groudon and Kyogre formes instead of Megas considering back in Gen IV formes existed and they didn't give any to Lugia and Ho-oh despite people wanting some formes for those two.

L0RD G3NGAR May 8th, 2014 11:56 AM

Also it would make no sense for megas not to be in game. I will almost guarantee that mega Lati twins will be released some time after alpha and omega. I'm also thinking that the PSs will stay. For them not toinclude megas makes little sense(unless you follow.time.line). Wouldn't surprise me if the include a second region to. Maybe one where they.do get mega stones. (Would be perfect way to explain megas in the games and would be fun).
Trust me megas will be in.the.game. But they could.just be new forms.

Plus if there were not megas it would not be comparable with x and y.

Compatible*

MusikMaestro May 8th, 2014 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Platina's Jason~ (Post 8238381)
These games have been confirmed to be remakes. Since the current timeline has XY after RSE it wouldn't make sense to have mega evolutions in the game at all.

Actually, RSE has no place in the Timeline yet. People just put it alongside Red and Blue because the Remakes were in Gen 3.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 8th, 2014 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MusikMaestro (Post 8238585)
Actually, RSE has no place in the Timeline yet. People just put it alongside Red and Blue because the Remakes were in Gen 3.

Exactly. All we know is that they take place sometime before B2W2. If we asume Steven is speaking of the player in HGSS than it may have taken place a year after RGBY, or a few months after those, or a few months before GSC and their remakes.

~Platina's Jason~ May 8th, 2014 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MusikMaestro (Post 8238585)
Actually, RSE has no place in the Timeline yet. People just put it alongside Red and Blue because the Remakes were in Gen 3.

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 8238590)
Exactly. All we know is that they take place sometime before B2W2. If we asume Steven is speaking of the player in HGSS than it may have taken place a year after RGBY, or a few months after those, or a few months before GSC and their remakes.

Wrong. The official timeline was posted here from one of the people who makes the games. It says that RGBY are at the same time as RSE followed by GSC which is at the same time as DPPt followed by BW which is followed by BW2 which is at the same time as XY.

Nah May 8th, 2014 12:45 PM

Do we have something a little more....official....than a tweet from someone?


TBH Platina, you're in the minority of people who seriously care about Pokémon's timeline. The timeline is hardly important to the overall franchise. It'd be different if Pokémon was a really story-driven series, but (unfortunately) its not, so the continuity of the timeline doesn't impact things much.


It's probably just going to be like the whole thing with Steel and Dark types only first being discovered in G/S/C, only to have them retcon that in FR/LG even though Steel and Dark never existed in the originals. It'll be the same with mega evolutions, and it really wouldn't make the games any worse if they did include it.

~Platina's Jason~ May 8th, 2014 1:09 PM

Unfortunately that is the only source for the official timeline that I have seen.

While it's true that I'm in the minority, I can still hope that Gamefreak doesn't contradict themselves by bringing mega evolutions into the game.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 8th, 2014 1:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Platina's Jason~ (Post 8238658)
Unfortunately that is the only source for the official timeline that I have seen.

While it's true that I'm in the minority, I can still hope that Gamefreak doesn't contradict themselves by bringing mega evolutions into the game.

They contradict themselves everytime they make a remake, as the new Pokemon discovered after the generation they came out were said to be discovered at another time. Actually if RSE does take place at the same time as RGBY than steel types and Johto Pokemon contradict the time line as Johto's shouldn't have been discovered...actually Hoenn Pokemon didn't even exist in Johto so they made a whole contradiction loop there...

blue May 8th, 2014 1:28 PM

Edit @ 15:38: The Japanese arm of The Pokémon Company sent out an e-mail to all Daisuki Club members which ends up pointing out the differences to Groudon & Kyogre on the box-art, stating that they're showcasing "never before seen Pokémon", the same terminology they used for Black & White Kyurem, as well as Mega Mewtwo Y upon their reveal, indicating that they are more than stylised artwork of the Pokémon. We'll bring more on this as it comes - Serebii.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 8th, 2014 1:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cat (Post 8238691)
Edit @ 15:38: The Japanese arm of The Pokémon Company sent out an e-mail to all Daisuki Club members which ends up pointing out the differences to Groudon & Kyogre on the box-art, stating that they're showcasing "never before seen Pokémon", the same terminology they used for Black & White Kyurem, as well as Mega Mewtwo Y upon their reveal, indicating that they are more than stylised artwork of the Pokémon. We'll bring more on this as it comes - Serebii.

Thanks for reposting that. We know they aren't fancy looks like the HGSS mini icons of the legends. Now to figure out if they're like White and Black Kyurem (formes) or like MegaMewtwo Y (Megas).

MusikMaestro May 8th, 2014 2:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Platina's Jason~ (Post 8238592)
Wrong. The official timeline was posted here from one of the people who makes the games. It says that RGBY are at the same time as RSE followed by GSC which is at the same time as DPPt followed by BW which is followed by BW2 which is at the same time as XY.

That's clearly wrong though? Loads of X/Y stuff alludes to stuff after BW2 (reformed Colress visiting Kalos, for example.)

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 8th, 2014 2:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MusikMaestro (Post 8238830)
That's clearly wrong though? Loads of X/Y stuff alludes to stuff after BW2 (reformed Colress visiting Kalos, for example.)

There was actually no mention of Colress being reformed when he visited Kalos. He may have visited there before B2W2. Also the Plasma that was talked about may be the original Plasma from BW and not the one from the sequels...XY is in a similar case as RSE it seems.

Ontopic: I doubt they're formes, it just feels like GF is focusing on Megas right now with formes being something of the last two generations (mascot wise, as Gen III was the first to have real formes).

Yukari May 8th, 2014 3:15 PM

...I'm praying it isn't either... I really don't want it to be a form change or mega evolutions... Besides, since it's a remake it really wouldn't make much sense. I've had enough with them.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 8th, 2014 3:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Orpheus (Post 8238918)
...I'm praying it isn't either... I really don't want it to be a form change or mega evolutions... Besides, since it's a remake it really wouldn't make much sense. I've had enough with them.

Well they called them "new Pokemon" which they've used with both formes and Megas. So unless it's either then that only leaves evolutions which is even more out there...

Nah May 8th, 2014 4:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 8238931)
Well they called them "new Pokemon" which they've used with both formes and Megas. So unless it's either then that only leaves evolutions which is even more out there...

They also said that these are going to be a "new" adventure or take place in a "new" world or something, even though ORAS is confirmed to be straight up remakes of Ruby/Sapphire. I think that TPC is just throwing around the word new because it sounds nice and they didn't know what else to say. I think that they used the same terminology with FR/LG and HG/SS.

Varion Bluefire May 8th, 2014 4:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Platina's Jason~ (Post 8238514)
Except those Pokemon always existed at the same time so it makes perfect sense for them to be catchable in FRLG. Mega evolutions were only discovered in XY which takes place years from RSE so having them in ORAS makes no sense and shouldn't be done.

It was actually discovered before you start your journey in XY, Korrina had the ability to do so, and Diantha, and Lysnadre got it too.
What's not to say it;s a long line of ancestory.

Despite that, i still don't why people don't want it in ORAS, the whole "timeline" reason is pathetic in my eyes.

~Platina's Jason~ May 8th, 2014 4:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Glitch (Post 8239044)
It was actually discovered before you start your journey in XY, Korrina had the ability to do so, and Diantha, and Lysnadre got it too.

Despite that, i still don't why people don't want it in ORAS, the whole "timeline" reason is pathetic in my eyes.

That doesn't change the fact that it was stated to have been discovered recently. And no, the timeline reasoning is a legitimate reason to not want them in the game.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 8th, 2014 4:46 PM

Please note that recently is a vague term as 5 years can be considered recent in terms of discoveries. It's possible that while Mega Evolution was discovered in Kalos that it was also uncovered in other regions since.

Nah May 8th, 2014 4:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Platina's Jason~ (Post 8239080)
That doesn't change the fact that it was stated to have been discovered recently. And no, the timeline reasoning is a legitimate reason to not want them in the game.

Actually, iirc, Mega Evolution was discovered in Kalos a long time before X/Y. I remember hearing about it when you first visit the Tower of Mastery.


Also, you're going to have to explain why the timeline reasoning is a good one.

Varion Bluefire May 8th, 2014 4:52 PM

Since there isn't really a "good" enough deciphered official timeline, it never find it a good enough reason.
Mega was only recently discovered in Kalos, each reason has there own secrets, Hoenn could of mastered it, and just kept it secret.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 8th, 2014 4:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Glitch (Post 8239101)
Since there isn't really a "good" enough deciphered official timeline, it never find it a good enough reason.
Mega was only recently discovered in Kalos, each reason has there own secrets, Hoenn could of mastered it, and just kept it secret.

Perhaps a secret section of the region knows about it. Perhaps they also know of another legend not available to the elders in Mt. Pyre about the forms we see in the box art.

Varion Bluefire May 8th, 2014 5:02 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 8239107)
Perhaps a secret section of the region knows about it. Perhaps they also know of another legend not available to the elders in Mt. Pyre about the forms we see in the box art.

I keep saying, and I hope; There's more dwelling into the Red and Blue Orb.
Like, they could easily be Mega stones, Groudonite and Kryogreite.
The Mega forms of Kryogre and Groudon could be what cause the obscene and dramatic weather effects reeking havoc on the east side of Hoenn.

It makes a more justified solution than, they're awoken and cause havoc, but as soon as you catch them, their weather effects are useless.

~Platina's Jason~ May 8th, 2014 5:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Salt&PepperDiner (Post 8239098)
Actually, iirc, Mega Evolution was discovered in Kalos a long time before X/Y. I remember hearing about it when you first visit the Tower of Mastery.


Also, you're going to have to explain why the timeline reasoning is a good one.

Nope. We're never told when Mega Evolution was found other than that it is new and only found in Kalos.

And it should be obvious why the timeline reasonins is a good one in that introducing Mega Evolutions to the remakes breaks canon.

Varion Bluefire May 8th, 2014 5:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Platina's Jason~ (Post 8239130)
Nope. We're never told when Mega Evolution was found other than that it is new and only found in Kalos.

And it should be obvious why the timeline reasonins is a good one in that introducing Mega Evolutions to the remakes breaks canon.

There's no solid proof or evidence that it's Kalos only.

As I mentioned Origins has Mega's in Kanto.
It's based on Red and Green, and Gen 1 took place the same time as Generation 3, so in retrospect, it can have mega evolution.

Nah May 8th, 2014 5:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Platina's Jason~ (Post 8239130)
Nope. We're never told when Mega Evolution was found other than that it is new and only found in Kalos.

And it should be obvious why the timeline reasonins is a good one in that introducing Mega Evolutions to the remakes breaks canon.

If only I could see that point in the game to confirm...


And now you're going to have to explain why breaking the canon (which Game Freak has done before) is a bad thing in Pokémon. It's a bad thing in other games, but I don't see how its so terrible in Pokémon.

~Platina's Jason~ May 8th, 2014 5:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Glitch (Post 8239136)
There's no solid proof or evidence that it's Kalos only.

As I mentioned Origins has Mega's in Kanto.
It's based on Red and Green, and Gen 1 took place the same time as Generation 3, so in retrospect, it can have mega evolution.

Wrong again. Professor Sycamore explicitly says that Mega Evolutions are only in Kalos. To quote:

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"It's only a hypothesis, but I think the bond between Pokémon and Trainer is the key to this new Evolution. But what is this bond, exactly? And why are there examples of Mega Evolution only in the Kalos region? There's still so much we don't know..."
Origins is irrelevant as what is canon to other parts of the franchise is not canon to the games.

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Originally Posted by Salt&PepperDiner (Post 8239143)
If only I could see that point in the game to confirm...


And now you're going to have to explain why breaking the canon (which Game Freak has done before) is a bad thing in Pokémon. It's a bad thing in other games, but I don't see how its so terrible in Pokémon.

I should think it would be obvious why breaking canon is a bad thing. And no Game Freak hasn't done so before. They've retconned things but I don't think they would retcon something so recent.

MarioManH May 8th, 2014 5:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Platina's Jason~ (Post 8239145)
Wrong again. Professor Sycamore explicitly says that Mega Evolutions are only in Kalos. To quote:



Origins is irrelevant as what is canon to other parts of the franchise is not canon to the games.

From that point, it's saying Mega Evolutions were only seen within the Kalos region. Not saying it's only in the region itself.

Nah May 8th, 2014 5:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Platina's Jason~ (Post 8239145)

I should think it would be obvious why breaking canon is a bad thing. And no Game Freak hasn't done so before. They've retconned things but I don't think they would retcon something so recent.

Just humor me. It might not be obvious to everyone, and when you're the only one making the argument, you might as well explain.


And the things that they've retconned could fall under the category of canon-breaking. Steel was originally stated to be a new type to be found in Johto region, yet it appears in FR/LG, which takes place before G/S/C/HG/SS. Besides, you never know what Game Freak is gonna do, cuz of dat #GameFreakLogic.

~Platina's Jason~ May 8th, 2014 5:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MarioManH (Post 8239149)
From that point, it's saying Mega Evolutions were only seen within the Kalos region. Not saying it's only in the region itself.

Wrong. That clearly states that they are only found in Kalos. If they were found elsewhere why would that line be there?

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Originally Posted by Salt&PepperDiner (Post 8239156)
Just humor me. It might not be obvious to everyone, and when you're the only one making the argument, you might as well explain.


And the things that they've retconned could fall under the category of canon-breaking. Steel was originally stated to be a new type to be found in Johto region, yet it appears in FR/LG, which takes place before G/S/C/HG/SS. Besides, you never know what Game Freak is gonna do, cuz of dat #GameFreakLogic.

Breaking canon is a bad thing because it makes it harder for the games to line up with each other and make sense.

While that's one way of looking at it, another way is that FRLG and HGSS replace RGBY and GSC respectively. In which case said retcon isn't breaking canon.

MarioManH May 8th, 2014 5:46 PM

Ah yes, Platina is right. Bulbapedia to confirm:
Mega Evolution (Japanese: メガシンカ Mega Evolution) is a new transformation affecting Pokémon, found only in the Kalos region. Mega Evolutions are identified by having "Mega" in front of their name.

Pepperton May 8th, 2014 5:52 PM

It would be more interesting if they were new forms, but either way, the artwork is absolutely stunning, and just looking at it gets me extremely excited to play. Their yellow markings probably have something to do with Rayquaza's similar markings. That could mean that Rayquaza will have some more relevance in this version of Hoenn.

MarioManH May 8th, 2014 5:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepperton (Post 8239216)
It would be more interesting if they were new forms, but either way, the artwork is absolutely stunning, and just looking at it gets me extremely excited to play. Their yellow markings probably have something to do with Rayquaza's similar markings. That could mean that Rayquaza will have some more relevance in this version of Hoenn.

I feel like he will play a similar role as he did in Emerald (Suppressing the fight between Groudon and Kyogre) OR Team Magma/Aqua will use Rayquaza in order to gain access to Groudon/Kyogre.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 8th, 2014 5:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Glitch (Post 8239120)
I keep saying, and I hope; There's more dwelling into the Red and Blue Orb.
Like, they could easily be Mega stones, Groudonite and Kyogreite.
The Mega forms of Kyogre and Groudon could be what cause the obscene and dramatic weather effects reeking havoc on the east side of Hoenn.

It makes a more justified solution than, they're awoken and cause havoc, but as soon as you catch them, their weather effects are useless.

They very well could be. It reminds me of how in Pokemon Special the Orbs turns into the stones (the core) for Deoxys. Hey if they do that then maybe the Soul Dew can turn into the Latiasite and Latiosite..

Itcheeee May 8th, 2014 6:20 PM

I noticed Kyogre on my first look at the covers, I'm not sure if I'd prefer them being Megas or forms. Will be interesting to see, as long as this doesn't dominate the story too much. :O

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 8th, 2014 6:24 PM

I wonder if the new forms (whatever they are) will have an extra story to it like how in HGSS they added the Bells and the Dance thing to the story.

\/ May 8th, 2014 6:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Platina's Jason~ (Post 8239170)
Wrong. That clearly states that they are only found in Kalos. If they were found elsewhere why would that line be there?

Stop calling people wrong, you aren't an authority on anything.

Assuming he was a real person with real scientific authority he would be saying that with the assumption that you know he is speaking of what is known as far as current science in his world has knowledge of.

When new scientific information is discovered, new journals, textbooks, and of course Wikipedia are updated to reflect it.

None of this matters because it is a video game franchise that isn't very realistic or story-driven in the first place.

~Platina's Jason~ May 8th, 2014 7:04 PM

I'll stop calling people wrong when they stop posting stuff contradicted by the games and those who make them.

And no, canon does matter. Yeah there's no overarching story but keeping the timeline straight and adhering to canon is important.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 8th, 2014 7:09 PM

Canon is only as important as the creators make it to be. They could not care for it at all like how some world leaders don't care about their nations' constitutions (speaking in general).

Gible May 8th, 2014 7:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Platina's Jason~ (Post 8239370)
I'll stop calling people wrong when they stop posting stuff contradicted by the games and those who make them.

And no, canon does matter. Yeah there's no overarching story but keeping the timeline straight and adhering to canon is important.

Canon really isn't a big deal at all for Pokemon. Evidently, there isn't even a clear timeline, like you said yourself earlier, so that should point to how little GameFreak cares about time continuity. Honestly, why does it matter whether or not Mega Evolutions appear in a remake or not. Also, following your logic, if Mega-Evos are ONLY found in Kalos, apparently, they won't appear in later games. Sure you can say "but it's later on in the 'timeline' so the knowledge could be spread", but I don't see what's stopping GameFreak from doing the same in ORAS. Sure it's a remake but I'm sure they can "retcon", whatever the hell that means, to fit it in.

~Platina's Jason~ May 8th, 2014 7:32 PM

Wrong. There is a canon timeline which I linked to and everyone chose to ignore. And if they show up in later generations that is different because then we know that Mega Evolution will have spread somehow.

Elaitenstile May 8th, 2014 7:51 PM

Bulbpedia isn't a speculative site. It only takes in canon information, official stuff, to avoid being an invalid source. So until they officially announce that the game will feature mega evolutions (which they probably will, considering they've already had many mega evolutions from Hoenn) they're going to say it's only found in Kalos. As of now, we don't even know whether the game will feature more than two Pokémon.

L0RD G3NGAR May 8th, 2014 8:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Platina's Jason~ (Post 8239424)
Wrong. There is a canon timeline which I linked to and everyone chose to ignore. And if they show up in later generations that is different because then we know that Mega Evolution will have spread somehow.


Here's an Idea, if you have such a big problem with it then don't play them or just lsave the thread if you have.an issue with it.

Stop calling people wrong on somethings, I'm pretty sure that I read that that timeline.stuff wasn't 100% confirmed.

Remebwe in orogin(Tho non cannon) No body except the guy who gave red the mega stones knew.what they were. Maybe only one.person in Hoenn knows about Mega Evolution.

Also considering that there is Mega Latios and Latias I'm pretty sure rhey won't be released unroll these games are released.

Sure you can keep using.your timeline.argument, but I don't think that thet wilp follow time line.

Like I said If you have a problem with it leave it alone. Geez let people believe what they want.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 8th, 2014 8:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tao Dragon (Post 8239451)
So this all comes up to that Groudon and Kyogre can have potential mega stones? Red and Blue orbs act as Griseous orb for Giratina? If those formes are megas then they won't learn any new moves but they can still have alternate abilities and improved stats. I just don't think they will be megas. If they were to be mega pokemon the would just be called Mega Groudon and Mega Kyogre rather than Omega and Alpha.

Actually people calling them Omega Groudon and Alpha Kyogre is all part of a rumor started in 4Chan. It's proably like Awakened Mewtwo for Mewtwo Y until we get an official name.

SnowpointQuincy May 8th, 2014 8:38 PM

Because they look too simular to their regular forms, I'm hoping these are not straight up Megas.

If they are Megas, then Red Orb, Blue Orb in the story should be their Mega Stones. They were not recognized as such 12 years ago, but this time they are discovered as such.

What Ability should each Mega Weather Mon get. Their Weather Ability would trigger when they switch in, so their Mega Ability could focus on pure power.

Maybe Adaptability for Kyogre? Imagine a Drizzle Boosted, Adaptability Boosted Hydro-Pump.

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(Pokemon "Canon" has been retconed 5 times. Every time they add new monsters. According to Prof. Oak, their are only 150 pokemon :15:)

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 8th, 2014 8:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SnowpointQuincy (Post 8239559)
Because they look too simular to their regular forms, I'm hoping these are not straight up Megas.

If they are Megas, then Red Orb, Blue Orb in the story should be their Mega Stones. They were not recognized as such 12 years ago, but this time they are discovered as such.

What Ability should each Mega Weather Mon get. Their Weather Ability would trigger when they switch in, so their Mega Ability could focus on pure power.

Maybe Adaptability for Kyogre? Imagine a Drizzle Boosted, Adaptability Boosted Hydro-Pump.

Groudon should get Solid Rock...oh and become Ground/Fire.

Elaitenstile May 8th, 2014 8:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SnowpointQuincy (Post 8239559)
(Pokemon "Canon" has been retconed 5 times. Every time they add new monsters. According to Prof. Oak, their are only 150 pokemon :15:)

This may be something to note. They say that Mew could be the 151st 'phantom' Pokémon as suggested by manga and Origins, but coming to think about it, Mewtwo is created from Mew, and if Mew wasn't known to exist, they couldn't possibly have added Mewtwo to the 150 list. It should have been 149.

SnowpointQuincy May 8th, 2014 9:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Elaitenstile (Post 8239594)
This may be something to note. They say that Mew could be the 151st 'phantom' Pokémon as suggested by manga and Origins, but coming to think about it, Mewtwo is created from Mew, and if Mew wasn't known to exist, they couldn't possibly have added Mewtwo to the 150 list. It should have been 149.

Mewtwo isn't a species, it is an individual subject. And everyone who knew about it died, except Fuji and Blane. Neither programed the Dex. So why Mewtwo would even be listed, let alone given preference over his ancestor... Even fewer people have seen Mew at that point, how is it even on the list.

Pokemanz be weird, Bro.

Elaitenstile May 8th, 2014 9:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SnowpointQuincy (Post 8239613)
Mewtwo isn't a species, it is an individual subject. And everyone who knew about it died, except Fuji and Blane. Neither programed the Dex. So why Mewtwo would even be listed, let alone given preference over his ancestor... Even fewer people have seen Mew at that point, how is it even on the list.

Pokemanz be weird, Bro.

So true, that. Maybe they should have done something like what they did with Victini, make it #0 and forget about it, because it isn't there in the dex. They really should make Deoxys #0 that being heard.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 8th, 2014 9:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Elaitenstile (Post 8239621)
So true, that. Maybe they should have done something like what they did with Victini, make it #0 and forget about it, because it isn't there in the dex. They really should make Deoxys #0 that being heard.

Professor Juniper (young Juniper) says after one captures Victini that the reason it's number 0 is to give luck to those who hold the Pokedex or something like that, not that they are necessary ignoring the poor thing.


I do wonder what the story beind Mewtwo and Mew is...I know the creator in real life added Mew at the last moment...yet the other developers didn't find it odd that Mewtwo's name was Mewtwo...they should've wonder why 'two'?


Ontopic: It's possible that Mega stone exist but those in Kalos didn't know about them.

Elaitenstile May 8th, 2014 9:20 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 8239631)
Ontopic: It's possible that Mega stone exist but those in Kalos didn't know about them.

Yeah, like in FRLG where they mention the discovery of Steel type in Johto, maybe they could make a cover-up story for that.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 8th, 2014 9:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Elaitenstile (Post 8239650)
Yeah, like in FRLG where they mention the discovery of Steel type in Johto, maybe they could make a cover-up story for that.

Yeah, they'll proably go there if they need a cover-up xD.

Elaitenstile May 8th, 2014 9:24 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 8239655)
Yeah, they'll proably go there if they need a cover-up xD.

It would be nice if they also added some more backstory to our speculated KyoGro mega formes, because they seem to be the main legendaries in the old games and it would be something cool to see how their 'rage formes' were calmed into their current formes by Rayquaza or something, that would be cool.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 8th, 2014 9:34 PM

Maybe these formes were the ones that actually created the world as the original Kyogre and Groudon were kind of slow...perhaps the region will actually show signs of flooding and everything will be full of suspense...

Varion Bluefire May 9th, 2014 1:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Platina's Jason~ (Post 8239145)
Wrong again. Professor Sycamore explicitly says that Mega Evolutions are only in Kalos. To quote:



Origins is irrelevant as what is canon to other parts of the franchise is not canon to the games.



I should think it would be obvious why breaking canon is a bad thing. And no Game Freak hasn't done so before. They've retconned things but I don't think they would retcon something so recent.

"There is still much we do not know"

So, he could not know there's megas outside of Kalos.

Rivvon May 9th, 2014 1:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Salt&PepperDiner (Post 8238126)
"stating that they're showcasing 'never before seen Pokémon'"
...But we have seen Groudon and Kyogre before. New forms =/= completely new Pokémon. Now, I'm not saying that they can't be getting new forms or mega evolutions, but the wording here that TPC is using.....



lol, as if those 2 needed more power (holy crap the stats on those Megas). But they did give Mewtwo 2 mega evos and #GameFreakLogic, so it could happen....
But I have to agree, more intense story is needed.

This is the same wording that was used not only for Mega Mewtwo Y, but also for Black Kyurem and White Kyurem. I remember this exact wording had caused some people to debate whether or not Black and White Kyurem would be their own Pokémon with their own PokéDex numbers. We all know how that turned out in the end. They could very well be referencing the Kyogre and Groudon we see on the boxart with that statement.

And including the legendaries as Megas would definitely spice up the story, and make Team Aqua and Magma seem more powerful and threatening for being able to awaken and possibly even control them for some moments.

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Originally Posted by MusikMaestro (Post 8238264)
I'd say it will be revealed that the orbs are actually their Mega forms, and the reason they wake up is because the orbs send them Mega.

I agree with this idea. Perhaps the team leaders' have Mega Rings and use the (Mega Stone) Orbs to awaken the Pokémon as Megas, when you fight them. You were unable to capture Kyurem the first time around in B2W2, so a similar thing could very well be done here, where the legendary is under the control of the team leader. This way they can still be Mega even though they are "in the wild."

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Originally Posted by MusikMaestro (Post 8238585)
Actually, RSE has no place in the Timeline yet. People just put it alongside Red and Blue because the Remakes were in Gen 3.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks so! The games have made reference to Hoenn, but nothing that places it in a concrete place in the timeline, the way gen 2 and gen 4 lock themselves together, and gen 1 in relation to gen 2, etc. I usually say it takes place at the same time as gen 1 for simplicity's sake, but some real concrete evidence would be more than welcome.

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 8239567)
Groudon should get Solid Rock...oh and become Ground/Fire.

But Solar Power!
As fitting as I think Ground/Fire would be, I personally do not want Groudon to have such a huge weakness to Kyogre's Water-type.

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Originally Posted by The Glitch (Post 8239980)
"There is still much we do not know"

So, he could not know there's megas outside of Kalos.

Professor Oak didn't even realize that there was an entire region literally steps away from the Pokémon League in Kanto.



Adding Megas does not mess with the series continuity, because ORAS is going to essentially replace RSE in the continuity. And the only reason why Sycamore says that Megas are only found in Kalos is because up until XY, they were only found in Kalos. Mega Evolution is a major new feature that is used in competitive play. Unless every game from now on is going to be set in Kalos (no, please!) they have to include Mega Evolution outside of Kalos eventually.

Now is as good a time as ever to start. Lots of gen 3 Pokémon got Mega Evolutions and I'm sure we'll see at least a few more (starters, please). I have nothing against formes, but why make the "new" Kyogre and Groudon formes when Megas are fresh off the press? It already works very well with the fact that they're awakened by orbs (the orbs that "awaken their true power," similar to Mega Stones already, so hopefully their new abilities would be actual permanent weather, exclusive only to them).

Elaitenstile May 9th, 2014 2:56 AM

Yeah, that could be possible as well. Or perhaps it could also be a simple form change like how Giratina reacts to the Griseous Orb. It could make things a lot less complicated.

Elaitenstile May 9th, 2014 3:53 AM

Yep, especially since 'Key' Items are supposed to 'Unlock' things. Besides, there isn't any Oak saying - "This isn't the time to use that!"
We can just hope Professor Birch is that lenient.

blue May 9th, 2014 4:26 AM

Omega Groudon and Alpha Kyogre is a neat idea! I'm pretty sure there is some sort of mystery behind these boxarts which I'm sure will be divulged into when playing the games, perhaps this will be the additional storyline?

Eevee May 9th, 2014 7:11 AM

What if they take the DNA splicer route and combine all three legendaries into a huge weather Pokemon?

~Platina's Jason~ May 9th, 2014 8:47 AM

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Originally Posted by The Glitch (Post 8239980)
"There is still much we do not know"

So, he could not know there's megas outside of Kalos.

Sounds like you're grasping at straws to me. He explicitly said they were only found in Kalos so saying that there are things they don't know doesn't mean Mega Evolutions are elsewhere. Especially when the canon timeline says otherwise.

Eevee May 9th, 2014 8:53 AM

If Megas are only found in Kalos region, then perhaps they could use X and Y to transfer over Mega stones?

Varion Bluefire May 9th, 2014 9:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Platina's Jason~ (Post 8240609)
Sounds like you're grasping at straws to me. He explicitly said they were only found in Kalos so saying that there are things they don't know doesn't mean Mega Evolutions are elsewhere. Especially when the canon timeline says otherwise.

But you don't know this.

Just because one professor says it.
People can be wrong, professor Oak believed he had discovered all 151 Pokémon.
But then found out there's 100 more.

~Platina's Jason~ May 9th, 2014 10:01 AM

Professor Oak not knowing about other Pokemon is different because there weren't any other games at the time. There are other games now and if there were Mega Evolutions outside of Kalos you would expect Professor Sycamore to know about it since the Professors do tend to exchange information as evidenced by Professor Oak visiting Professor Elm and Rowan.

seeker May 9th, 2014 10:41 AM

To me, it looks like they're getting the Rayquaza treatment. I'm not sure if this has been stated anywhere before, but if you look at their designs; they resemble that of Raquaza's lovely golden tattoos.
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/e/e4/384Rayquaza.png/250px-384Rayquaza.png

I imagine this has something to do with how they're going to tie in Rayquaza to the story (since they're undoubtedly not making an Emerald remake). The way the Pokémon were announced suggests that it something similar to that of how Kyurem worked in BW2. So we could easily be seeing the reincarnation of the DNA Splicers (god I hope not), or there could be some sort of form that Kyogre/Groudon take when they interact with Rayquaza in some way. However, based on the designs, I'm convinced that this is how OR&AS are integrating Rayquaza, and the elements of Emerald's story into the games. As well as bringing these new forms in to spice up the original storyline.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 9th, 2014 11:22 AM

They also talked about Mewtwo Y the way they're talking about these now...so they could still be Megas.

Nah May 9th, 2014 11:43 AM

I doubt its a fusion.Its been done already so the impact wouldn't be as great as it was in Black2/White2. Besides, Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza are complete Pokemon already. Kyurem is an incomplete Pokemon and the fusion is to make it more whole (and the Tao Trio did start off as one Pokemon, and I'm pretty sure thats not the case with the Weather Trio).

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 9th, 2014 11:53 AM

I think Rayquaza if it has a Mega or a forme will gain Groudon and Kyogre's red and blue lines (with it transitioning like the lights in the Pokeathalon.

wakachamo May 9th, 2014 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Platina's Jason~ (Post 8240719)
Professor Oak not knowing about other Pokemon is different because there weren't any other games at the time. There are other games now and if there were Mega Evolutions outside of Kalos you would expect Professor Sycamore to know about it since the Professors do tend to exchange information as evidenced by Professor Oak visiting Professor Elm and Rowan.

They can always bend the Professor-related canon around whatever they decide to include in the new games; that's how it's always been, and the fact that Pokémon is a thing that's being actively "researched" only helps make it easier for Professors to come back later and be all like "ooohhh look at this thing we didn't notice before!!!"


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