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The ONLY real question about "what is a Primal form" Is THIS:
MUST GROUDON HOLD AN ITEM TO CHANGE??? Megas can't hold items, which is sometimes undesirable. If Primal Forms don't use hold items, then they could hold Choice Items, or Berries. |
I think they'll need to hold items, like Groudite and Kyogrite (which will likely be a Ruby and Sapphire form of the orbs with their special signs) in order to call upon their lost power. I wonder if perhaps the reason nature's power (in the world as a whole) weakened has something to do with Zygarde and it seeming weakened... I feel this will tie back in with the conclusion of the Gen VI saga.
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I strongly suspect that the Orbs will unlock the Primal Devolutions. The Orbs were strong enough to wake the legendaries up when they were in the same vicinity, imagine what power could be unlocked if the legendaries were actually holding the Orbs.
Also, if held items are required, this brings up another point: how will Primal Devolutions going to be involved in the storyline if they have to hold an item to transform? Will Maxie/Archie catch it, will the legends steal the Orbs, or will you be required to use one of the legends yourself? |
I think that Maxie/Archie will proably give it to the legend at one point, but then the legend will proceed to escape. It'll then activate their weather ability and make it sunny/rain.
Maxie/Archie will probably try to regain control by transforming it, but it'll backfire, thus causing more chaos. At least that's one likely scenerio. It's also possible that the legend could attack the evil team leader and retake it. Once they regain their orb they'll come after the player to get the other orb (someone hide the third orb aka the Jade orb safely or it's all over if the 10 year old fails...) |
I'm actually kind of convinced that the Red Orb and Blue Orb will be the primal item used to devolve them. I mean we could have Groudonite and Kyogrite but it seems to be kind of reserved to Mega Evolutions imo.
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I think the orbs will change into something else. Like how the Enigma stone was revealed to be the Soul Dew. Maybe they'll be called Omegite and Alphite for them. Rayquaza can have Deltite.
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It's certainly something Game Freak hasn't disclosed yet, but I think they'll end up being stones separate from the Mega stone category. Possibly the orbs, or even some new evolving stone that's specific to Primal Reversion, but I doubt there'll be any Groudonite or Kyogrite. The symbol in this screenshot might be a hint towards what they're going to do, but it also may have no relevance at all.
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Anyway, the one problem I see with the Primal Reversion items being the Orbs is that, if they were created with the purpose of stopping Groudon and Kyogre from fighting by absorbing and sealing their power within them (at least, it seems that is what they do in the legend), shouldn't they do exactly that if we exposed the Pokémon to them? Another thing I haven't brought up is that the two Orbs are supposed to remain together. Maybe these games could expand on that, explain why they must remain together, and what happens if they are separated. Perhaps the reason they woke the legendary Pokémon was that they were stolen and taken away from each other. |
I feel that the Team leaders would be trying to control the 2 so hard that the Blue and Red Orbs shatters and turns into another new Orbs, which in turns Primal Devolution the 2s.
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I think that while something else will be involved rather than regular Mega stones the process will turn out to be quite similar, which will be why GF says there's a connection between Primal Reversion and Mega Evolution on the official site. |
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So the English translation of Ancient Devolution is better! Tbh, I prefer Primal Reversion than the Japanese one.
I looked closely at the primal reversions of Kyogre and Groudon and see that the indicator usually used by the Megas are different, with Kyogre having a blue alpha on it while Groudon having a red omega on it. I don't know if this is an indicator that the primal reversions are reserved only to Kyogre and Groudon but I really hope that isn't the case. Btw off topic but 1000th post :) |
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Though, I could see it on Dialga. |
I hope it's exclusive to the Weather Trio; They better leave Dialga alone.
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But yeah I do agree that these Primal Reversions should only be for Kyogre and Groudon. |
Primal Reversion may be reserved for the pantheon of Legendary Pokemon:
Mew, Lugia, Ho-Oh, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina (Maybe), Regigigas, Arceus, Reshiram, Zekrom, Kyurem (Maybe), Xerneas, Yvetal, and Zygarde. I call them a pantheon because they're basically the "big" Legendaries of the Pokemon world. Giratina and Kyurem may not end up receiving Primal Reversions due to their multiple forms already. However, the rest seem like likely candidates. This would also answer the question as to why Zygarde seems so...mild compared to Xerneas and Yvetal. |
The orbs kind of envelop Groudon and Kyogre with pure energy, speeding the devolution process up to immeasurable numbers, and activating their Primal forms. If the orbs have no pertinence to Primal Reversion, there could be a stone not currently released similar to Mega stones, only attainable once you've defeated Team Magma/Aqua.
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Now, I've already explained why I think the item required could be something other than the Orbs, but that's just one theory I have. I wanted some feedback on it before posting another one. What do you think about it? Did I miss something that might mean the Orbs are what will trigger it? |
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Another crazy theory I have is that they will be what causes it. Turning the orbs into hold items and giving it to Groudon and Kyogre. The Mega Bracelet would also resonate with those in some weird way that causes them to revert back to their primordial forms and awaken that old power, much like Mega Evolution, since the site says they're connected somehow. Now, about their unrevealed abilities. I think, for Groudon, it will be some sort of ability that makes either his Fire-type moves or all of his moves use his attack stat, as Groudon doesn't really have that good a physical movepool besides Earthquake to use his beefy Attack stat, let alone give STAB. For Kyogre, I think it will be either the same thing, just for Sp. Atk, or something like Pixilate/Aerilate, turning normal-type moves or even all moves into Water-type moves. |
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The alternatives I have in mind are actually pretty similar to your second theory (they involve the Orbs as held items), but before posting them, I want to see if I missed anything with this one. |
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I think that perhaps the orbs need to be absorbed rather than just them being exposed to them. The leader never handed the legend the orbs. The power of the orbs seem to corrupt (Anime and Manga) or can't be controled by those not strong enough (game). It could have something due to the Primal power sealed inside the orbs. The official site hints at them losing it somehow. Thus far we only know from RSE about the creation of the orbs assuring they'll stay asleep. |
I think it would make a lot of sense if they created an entirely new item. Primal Reversion has never been heard of prior to ORAS, and so they may only have found the items that activate it recently, while the orbs tap into Groudon and Kyogre's power over weather. That would be reasonable, I think. Interesting to see what they do with the orbs if they go that route, though.
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I had a theory that the orbs acted as another version of the mega stones. But the orbs activated Primal Reversion, rather than Mega Evolutions. In the gameplay screenshots in the CoroCoro leak, you see that the symbol next to their health bars are completely different. So its obviously, not another form similar to something you would see with Deoxys or the Creation trio. I for one, would absolutely love it for the orbs to be a new mega stone. In the end of the scuffle in Sootopolis city, Maxie and/or Archie, hand over the orbs. So maybe when you get he orbs back, you can go back to Groudon and Kyorge, and the events of Primal Reversion will begin.
As for abilities, they said that their abilities will be enhanced, so I'm just guessing an infinite Drought or an infinite Drizzle. |
Maybe it'll be Evaporation- weakens grass and water moves. Grass as plants need water to live, signaling the depth of the drought. And Condensation- Weakens fire, rock, and ground moves (an extra type weakens to make up for Kyogre not getting an additional type...and possibly not getting a double type signature if Groudon's signature move does Ground and Fire damage like I'm theorizing.)
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