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MarioManH May 8th, 2014 6:40 PM

Rayquaza Speculation
 
So now it seems that we have a new form for Kyogre and one for Groudon.

Now the names for each game is Alpha Sapphire and Omega Ruby.

Now, Alpha can correspond with Kyogre and Omega corresponding with Groudon.

Alpha can mean the beginning and water can symbolize a "new beginning or new life".

Omega can mean the end and "fire" can symbolize "destruction or the end of the world".

So lets assume these things were put in place like they are, what would Rayqauza's role be?

In other threads there has been talk that Rayquaza could symbolize "Christ" and be considered the Kingdom to Heaven, which is technically what the Sky can be a symbol of. So what do you think Rayquaza will do in these remakes? Will he have an "alternate form" like Groudon and Kyogre?

Discuss.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 8th, 2014 6:47 PM

I think he will. Along with being based off the Ziz Rayquaza is believed to be based on Quatzequatel who is a 'savior' like figure in Aztec mythology so the whole savior feel of it stands. Plus Quatzequatel was a wind and sky god and a serpent. Also that green glow in Emerald felt majestic...

Anyways I think Rayquaza may get a Mega or two(?). If they're named after the versions like Mewtwo and Charizard's were or if it has it's own unique name (Chi?) is up to the creators.

antemortem May 8th, 2014 6:52 PM

I think there will be an alternate forme and the player will be tasked with seeking out Rayquaza's new "orb" (which would actually be its megastone) while Aqua and Magma have the Red Orb and Blue Orb, which are the new megastones for them. Once the player has Rayquaza's stone, we have to awaken Rayquaza and do a victory ride to where Kyogre and Groudon are fighting and stop the calamity before it begins. n_n

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 8th, 2014 6:54 PM

That Rayquaza lending it's powers to the other two makes me think of how someone said Zygarde maybe a Megastone for the other two...sure hope it's not the one behind the new forms...it'll be like an inverse of Kyurem's formes.

Gible May 8th, 2014 7:03 PM

Gamma deals with threes so I'd assume Rayquaza would have a Gamma forme.

Elaitenstile May 8th, 2014 7:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Antemortem (Post 8239345)
I think there will be an alternate forme and the player will be tasked with seeking out Rayquaza's new "orb" (which would actually be its megastone) while Aqua and Magma have the Red Orb and Blue Orb, which are the new megastones for them. Once the player has Rayquaza's stone, we have to awaken Rayquaza and do a victory ride to where Kyogre and Groudon are fighting and stop the calamity before it begins. n_n

Do you remember the Jade Orb from HGSS? What if they used that Orb to 'call down' Rayquaza into it's whatever new form to end the havoc of Kyogre/Groudon? That would be pretty cool, although it might take the spotlight away from Kyogre/Groudon. Rayquaza really needs a part after the Emerald story, though.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 8th, 2014 8:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Elaitenstile (Post 8239460)
Do you remember the Jade Orb from HGSS? What if they used that Orb to 'call down' Rayquaza into it's whatever new form to end the havoc of Kyogre/Groudon? That would be pretty cool, although it might take the spotlight away from Kyogre/Groudon. Rayquaza really needs a part after the Emerald story, though.

I feel that Rayquaza's role in these games if it's similar to Emerald it won't be nearly as spot light stealing than say in future DP remakes if they follow the Pt storyline (as Giratina take over the whole spotlight).

antemortem May 8th, 2014 8:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 8239481)
I feel that Rayquaza's role in these games if it's similar to Emerald it won't be nearly as spot light stealing than say in future DP remakes if they follow the Pt storyline (as Giratina take over the whole spotlight).

I doubt anything involving an orb/stone/getting Rayquaza's attention somehow will be any more groundbreaking or spotlight stealing than going to awaken Rayquaza in Emerald was :P It would just be cool if it was ya know

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 8th, 2014 8:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Antemortem (Post 8239482)
I doubt anything involving an orb/stone/getting Rayquaza's attention somehow will be any more groundbreaking or spotlight stealing than going to awaken Rayquaza in Emerald was :P It would just be cool if it was ya know

I loved that scene after we returned to Sootopolis. I hope Rayquaza plays a similar role...I want to see the trio together...
Actually these are the first remakes with a trio of legends involved...and also the first in which a female characters existed in the originals. Wonder what they'll do...

Elaitenstile May 8th, 2014 8:28 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 8239481)
I feel that Rayquaza's role in these games if it's similar to Emerald it won't be nearly as spot light stealing than say in future DP remakes if they follow the Pt storyline (as Giratina take over the whole spotlight).

That is quite true. The second evil team (the one not after Kyo/Gro) usually look like the 'good guys' in the games, perhaps they would run off to awaken the other Pokémon, and fearing this, Rayquaza would become active and stop the awakening, after which the featured legendary would challenge us and all of Hoennmanity will be saved. Sounds a bit better than the old story, at least.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 8th, 2014 8:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Elaitenstile (Post 8239539)
That is quite true. The second evil team (the one not after Kyo/Gro) usually look like the 'good guys' in the games, perhaps they would run off to awaken the other Pokémon, and fearing this, Rayquaza would become active and stop the awakening, after which the featured legendary would challenge us and all of Hoennmanity will be saved. Sounds a bit better than the old story, at least.

Yeah it sounds closer to Emerald's. I'm hoping that both teams play a role though.

Hiatus May 8th, 2014 8:38 PM

If Rayquaza does wind up getting a secondary form, could anybody imagine how it would actually look? Personally, I think it'd be very decent if it had larger body and shorter length--as in, its whole snake-like structure would be expanded and make it seem as if it's just eaten something. If you ask me, that would sort of freaky, haha. Statistically, I want it to receive boost in Attack and defenses; since it's big, it would make sense if it were able to endure more hits than normal and strike harder physical moves. As for its form item, I'm not really sure what they'd call that... Green Crystal, maybe? Either that, or they could go with how mega-evolution stones are named and go with Rayquazite. d:

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 8th, 2014 8:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Peitharchia (Post 8239560)
If Rayquaza does wind up getting a secondary form, could anybody imagine how it would actually look? Personally, I think it'd be very decent if it had larger body and shorter length--as in, its whole snake-like structure would be expanded and make it seem as if it's just eaten something. If you ask me, that would sort of freaky, haha. Statistically, I want it to receive boost in Attack and defenses; since it's big, it would make sense if it were able to endure more hits than normal and strike harder physical moves. As for its form item, I'm not really sure what they'd call that... Green Crystal, maybe? Either that, or they could go with how mega-evolution stones are named and go with Rayquazite. d:

They may use the Jade Orb from Heartgold Soulsilver.


I hope that it's horns curve back and that it grows large fangs.

Elaitenstile May 8th, 2014 8:54 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 8239573)
They may use the Jade Orb from Heartgold Soulsilver.


I hope that it's horns curve back and that it grows large fangs.

Wow, that would really make Rayquaza look like something else. Maybe a longer streamlined head to make it look like a large looming dragon would work as well. And I totally agree with Peitharchia that Rayquaza should get a shorter body length. I honestly thought it weird that it was so huge and curvy at first.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 8th, 2014 9:01 PM

I actually like that Rayquaza is large and curvy...I always saw it as having to be like a tower size Pokemon.

Elaitenstile May 8th, 2014 9:37 PM

The Sky Pillar doesn't feature a gigantic Bellsprout, but something better XD

Then again, they really should give Rayquaza more recognition in these games, as everyone is simply after KyoGro and Rayquaza seems like a side feature lol

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 8th, 2014 9:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Elaitenstile (Post 8239688)
The Sky Pillar doesn't feature a gigantic Bellsprout, but something better XD

Then again, they really should give Rayquaza more recognition in these games, as everyone is simply after KyoGro and Rayquaza seems like a side feature lol

Yeah. It doesn't even have as big of a role in it's own game compared to Giratina it it's game. Maybe they should keep the Rayquaza stopping them scene and save the capture of the mascot and Rayquaza until post game...

Elaitenstile May 8th, 2014 9:50 PM

Catching mascot being optional is a good idea, but after seeing BW and X&Y, I don't think it's much of a possibility unfortunately. Although making Rayquaza battle mandatory is a good way out, like in HGSS with Suicune.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 8th, 2014 9:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Elaitenstile (Post 8239712)
Catching mascot being optional is a good idea, but after seeing BW and X&Y, I don't think it's much of a possibility unfortunately. Although making Rayquaza battle mandatory is a good way out, like in HGSS with Suicune.

Weren't Lugia and Ho-oh's captures also mandatory in their respective remakes?

I hope that the opposite mascot appears post game like in those games (and like in Emerald)

Elaitenstile May 8th, 2014 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 8239722)
Weren't Lugia and Ho-oh's captures also mandatory in their respective remakes?

I hope that the opposite mascot appears post game like in those games (and like in Emerald)

I think they made it so. The Kimono girls would lead us to the beacon area and we'd have to fight said legendary.
In HGSS, they did appear, following suit to Gold and Silver. But in the later games, it seems that we can't get the other mascot. Perhaps that is to promote trading and therefore to promote more sales.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 8th, 2014 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Elaitenstile (Post 8239732)
I think they made it so. The Kimono girls would lead us to the beacon area and we'd have to fight said legendary.
In HGSS, they did appear, following suit to Gold and Silver. But in the later games, it seems that we can't get the other mascot. Perhaps that is to promote trading and therefore to promote more sales.

Yeah, I hope they do what they did in Emerald and have all three members of the trio. However what ever is making the mascot into the forme/Mega we see on the box art we can't get unless we trade with the other version. Maybe they'll also make it so that we can't get Rayquaza's mega stone unless we get both stones and bring Groudon and Kyogre (with them on them) to the tower. If we capture Rayquaza before that than we simply take the three to the tower (again the other two with their stones/ forme transforming items) and we unlock the Rayquazite.

Elaitenstile May 8th, 2014 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 8239739)
Yeah, I hope they do what they did in Emerald and have all three members of the trio. However what ever is making the mascot into the forme/Mega we see on the box art we can't get unless we trade with the other version. Maybe they'll also make it so that we can't get Rayquaza's mega stone unless we get both stones and bring Groudon and Kyogre (with them on them) to the tower. If we capture Rayquaza before that than we simply take the three to the tower (again the other two with their stones/ forme transforming items) and we unlock the Rayquazite.

Perfect! This would be an awesome thing, especially since we can't get the mega form of KyoGro outside of their respective games, this would really promote it to get all three mega legendaries. I think this is the best way to favour the purchase of both games, because many people love Rayquaza.

Pepperton May 13th, 2014 6:21 PM

I can see Rayquaza getting a lot more screen time in ORAS. With the inclusion of mega evolutions, he could receive one himself, which might lead to the player having to find the stone of Rayquaza (and possibly the other two legendaries) as a side quest. In the end, instead of fighting his regular forme in order to catch it, the player must defeat its mega forme first before catching it.

Salzorrah May 23rd, 2014 11:27 PM

I'm kinda leaning towards with Rayquaza not having much of an impact in ORAS but on the third game of Gen 6, along with Zygarde since they are kinda serpent-like, the third of their respective trios and obviously green. But, my mind is still open if Rayquaza gets any part in ORAS.

Dedenne1 May 24th, 2014 4:08 AM

Rayquaza will be a savior and look out for hoenn i beleive they'll eventually make a remake of emerald after they most likely do a pokemon z. Rayquaza will most likely get a mega


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