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Salzorrah May 9th, 2014 6:46 PM

ABANDON SHIP!!!!
 
In one of the sea routes of South Hoenn, there was an abandoned ship that served a little sidequest to get one of Clamperl's evolution items. Do you think that the Abandoned Ship will return and have a better use in the storyline?

Discuss!

Killjoy May 9th, 2014 6:50 PM

I imagine it will, but will return as a far larger, more prominent object due to the 3D scaling. No more giant building roughly the size of 8 player characters standing in a rectangle lol

fenyx4 May 9th, 2014 6:50 PM

I think that the Abandoned Ship will relatively stay the same (although it would be suitable to have a battle with roaming Wallace here). BOTH DeepSeaTooth/DeepSeaScale should be available somehow; their rarity in Hoenn irritated me in the past. A situaton like Emerald had with the Fossils would be ideal: you're allowed to get one easily, but you have to actually work for the one that you don't pick.

Evening May 9th, 2014 9:37 PM

I doubt there's a chance that it wouldn't return.
Gamefreak should let us explore the ship more.

Satoshi Ookami May 9th, 2014 10:04 PM

Maybe there will be a new ghost... Gamefreak likes their ghosts in the new games.

Elaitenstile May 9th, 2014 10:09 PM

I remember a kid walking through the wall to battle us inside the ship. So many ghosts... maybe we could encounter Rotom in there, but for the most part it should stay the same. The Abandoned Ship was kind of creepy, too.

PlatinumDude May 9th, 2014 10:26 PM

I really think the Abandoned Ship could use some new areas to explore. It didn't really serve much of a purpose, tbh.

Hiatus May 9th, 2014 10:27 PM

Since there are more legendaries now since RSE, I could imagine one of them to reside there; a ghost-type one, to be specific. Rotom, maybe? I don't know. :( If they do wind up putting it here, then I could imagine this Pokémon to be in its wash form, since the ship is in an aquatic area. Either that, or maybe Giratina (very unlikely, though, since it might not be able to fit there due to its size). If it's not ghost, then Darkrai would be an excellent alternative, haha.

Elaitenstile May 9th, 2014 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Peitharchia (Post 8241989)
Since there are more legendaries now since RSE, I could imagine one of them to reside there; a ghost-type one, to be specific. Rotom, maybe? I don't know. :( If they do wind up putting it here, then I could imagine this Pokémon to be in its wash form, since the ship is in an aquatic area. Either that, or maybe Giratina (very unlikely, though, since it might not be able to fit there due to its size). If it's not ghost, then Darkrai would be an excellent alternative, haha.

Darkrai seems to be an exciting option, doesn't it? Although I wouldn't really think Darkrai fits with the whole "Ghost" thing. Rotom, like you said, would be a good idea to have Rotom in it's wash form in there.

Abby May 9th, 2014 10:49 PM

There is a wild huntail/gorebyss depending on your version holding the other evolutionary item!

Jellicent♀ May 9th, 2014 11:53 PM

As much as I loved the Abandoned Ship, its music, Trainers, and the little puzzle inside of it, I doubt it'd have much more of a role than it did in the previous games. It was nice, though, as it was. A quiet, quaint little ship that held a few treasures inside, and just being a pretty little memento of whatever if was that happened there, and honestly I think it should stay that way. .3.

Skystrike May 9th, 2014 11:56 PM

I'll be honest, I've always ignored the Abandoned Ship.








...Yeah.

It should still make a return, unchanged from R/S/E though. No doubt though items will probably be added there. (A Plate for Arceus, perhaps?)

Rivvon May 10th, 2014 12:08 AM

It will definitely return. If it had a larger role in the plot, that would be pretty cool, but I don't think that will be the case. If they were to incorporate it into the plot, it would not only alter the story more than what needs to be, but it would kind of remove the sense of exploration. What I mean by that is, when you first see the Abandoned Ship, you're sailing across the waters with Mr. Briney and Peeko. You see that it's there, but you don't have access to it quite yet. Later you receive Surf and you have to go out of your way to go and explore the ship--but you want to because it's so interesting and mysterious-looking. The existence and location of the Abandoned Ship are one of the many ways that Hoenn really encourages the player to explore. If the plot forced you to go there, it just wouldn't be the same.

With that being said, I do hope that the location is expanded upon and has a few new features and maybe even side-story-esque events. And if newer (post-gen 3) Pokémon are included in these remakes, I want the ship to be overrun with Frillish and Jellicent!

Bobbylicious May 10th, 2014 1:27 AM

I dont even remember much of RSE lol.
was the abandoned ship based off that anime episode where there was a swampert hiding out in it and they all thought it was a monster or something??

either way, i love the idea of being able to explore it more.

Leo the Lion May 10th, 2014 2:05 AM

Know what would be cool? To have some sort of scavenger's hunt involving it. Cause, tbh, in the main games it was useless.

blue May 10th, 2014 2:12 AM

Ooh yes, I did like this area particularly especially for the music. I can imagine that the Abandoned Ship will get a huge graphical overhaul.

Skystrike May 10th, 2014 2:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cat (Post 8242242)
I can imagine that the Abandoned Ship will get a huge graphical overhaul.

It's gonna look amazing in 3D.

Maybe it'll give me more of a reason to go inside

Killjoy May 10th, 2014 4:25 AM

Wasn't the Ice Beam TM in there before? Who would skip that?!

Guardian May 10th, 2014 4:39 AM

Some people are saying there might be a legendary in the ship. And a ghost. May I just remind you of something?


https://pokebeach.com/news/1213/hoopa.png

:D

antemortem May 10th, 2014 5:59 AM

I doubt it'll be any more relevant than before, but if it doesn't have Ice Beam in it I'll be filing a formal complaint. That's the only reason I went in there anyway. If anything, the boat should have a new sidequest involving Briney/Peeko or your rival/Wally or something like that. It would be cool if it's expanded more than just two or three floors with a bunch of impassable little holes. :P

fenyx4 May 10th, 2014 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jellicent♀ (Post 8242074)
As much as I loved the Abandoned Ship, its music, Trainers, and the little puzzle inside of it, I doubt it'd have much more of a role than it did in the previous games. It was nice, though, as it was. A quiet, quaint little ship that held a few treasures inside, and just being a pretty little memento of whatever if was that happened there, and honestly I think it should stay that way. .3.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rivvon (Post 8242101)
It will definitely return. If it had a larger role in the plot, that would be pretty cool, but I don't think that will be the case. If they were to incorporate it into the plot, it would not only alter the story more than what needs to be, but it would kind of remove the sense of exploration. What I mean by that is, when you first see the Abandoned Ship, you're sailing across the waters with Mr. Briney and Peeko. You see that it's there, but you don't have access to it quite yet. Later you receive Surf and you have to go out of your way to go and explore the ship--but you want to because it's so interesting and mysterious-looking. The existence and location of the Abandoned Ship are one of the many ways that Hoenn really encourages the player to explore. If the plot forced you to go there, it just wouldn't be the same.

With that being said, I do hope that the location is expanded upon and has a few new features and maybe even side-story-esque events. And if newer (post-gen 3) Pokémon are included in these remakes, I want the ship to be overrun with Frillish and Jellicent!

The above 2 posts perfectly encapsulate how I feel about the Abandoned Ship. {XD} Altering it to become plot-relevant would kind of take away the sense of exploration that you get when you first briefly experience the ship's mystique as you zoom past it with Mr. Briney.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sven (Post 8242420)
Some people are saying there might be a legendary in the ship. And a ghost. May I just remind you of something?


https://pokebeach.com/news/1213/hoopa.png

:D

It would be weird to get a Kalos'-debut-generation Pokemon in a Hoenn remake, but then again, stranger things have happened - such as when Hoenn's Deoxys got more "relevance/promotion" during the release of Pokemon FireRed/LeafGreen (even more jarringly, due to the Kanto-based FireRed/LeafGreen's existence, Deoxys received its own island location and 2 new Formes and a unique, new battle theme in a pair of games that it technically didn't even premiere in! {XD}) Hoopa would be very fitting for the eerie atmosphere of the Abandoned Ship (and there's ample space for it to take residence), although I fear that Hoopa will be relegated to some unknown upcoming Pokemon X and Y (or Pokemon Z Version?) event distribution.. :/ It would be neat if one of those things that "shine" in the Abandoned Ship (which usually turn out to be Room Keys for the ship or just some random trash) mysteriously initiates a battle with Hoopa all of a sudden (maybe in a room that is unlocked once the player defeats the Hoenn Elite 4/Champion for the first time?).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antemortem (Post 8242549)
I doubt it'll be any more relevant than before, but if it doesn't have Ice Beam in it I'll be filing a formal complaint. That's the only reason I went in there anyway. If anything, the boat should have a new sidequest involving Briney/Peeko or your rival/Wally or something like that. It would be cool if it's expanded more than just two or three floors with a bunch of impassable little holes. :P

Brendan/May and/or Wally randomly popping up at the Abandoned Ship would be interesting and fun to see (Wally's parents would probably freak out that Wally got so far, though XD). Although if that's the case, they should each have a Pokemon in their party that has Surf in its moveset...

Additionally, I just remembered something that bugged me a little. At the Abandoned Ship (at least in Pokemon Emerald Version), there's a lady, Beauty Thalia, who stands near to a Gentleman-looking man that has some Match Call dialogue (and I think her post-battle dialogue is along similar lines, too?) where she says that she's going to talk to/approach the Gentleman next door and challenge him to a match/battle... I always thought that there was a mini-event related to this that might be initiated after you re-battle her, but I think that dialogue was just "fluff" text for the sake of her having something interesting/worthwhile to say. XD It would be cool if OR/AS provides a mini-cutscene or mini-event where something comes out of this implied interaction...

EDIT: Woo-hoo, 1,600th post! ^^

Iceshadow3317 May 10th, 2014 12:44 PM

Maybe we could find the Manaphy or Phione egg there? I could see that happening easily.

And they said they wanted to make more ways to catch pokemon. I don't recall having a Manaphy Event in a while.

Olli May 10th, 2014 12:45 PM

Like already mentioned by several people, the chance that it wouldn't appear again is kinda slim. It wouldn't really be a faithful remake if they just decided to remove something like that, no matter how insignificant it actually was. And I don't know about anything storyline related, but I'd really love to see the purpose of it expanded on. Make it have part in a larger sidequest, rather than just have it be a way to obtain a few items. That's what really bugged me about it in the originals, since it seemed like it was much more significant than it actually was.

Volcarona May 10th, 2014 4:34 PM

I can't wait to see just how beautifully mystic the abandoned ship will look with a graphical overhaul. The music should be kept about the same. I wouldn't be surprised if a ghost appeared or another eerie scene unfolds, given the ghost NPCs in the 4th, 5th, and 6th gens.

Corvus of the Black Night May 10th, 2014 4:36 PM

We absolutely need to keep that damn ship and make it bigger, better and awesomer. Like, have more rooms and add puzzles and ♥♥♥♥.


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